What do you think of steam lolita?
I love h.naoto but they are the worst at coording. Their stuff always looks better worn by other people.
I don't know why so many people are in denial about it. This is just as much a thing now as guro/country/punk lolita etc was a thing years ago
So that's basically what steam lolita is: a (probably brown) lolita coord with some gears. Then they call it gear lolita themselves instead of waiting for true steampunks to use the term against them. The Western steampunk community is so annoying and embarrassing tough, I wouldn't want to be associated with them.
I notice that the Japanese take on steam punk is much more fiction / fantasy based then historical in nature. I think at this point with the amount of steam punk in Japan, it's only natural for the two to merge. My big issue is I hope people don't follow the meme and 'just put some gears on it and call it steam punk'.
>I hope people don't follow the meme and 'just put some gears on it and call it steam punk'.
I think you don't have to go full steampunk to call a coord steam lolita tough, just like punk lolita usually isn't really punk
+ There have been steampunk lolita meetups in Tokyo for ages (2011 was the first one if I remember correctly) too organised by http://steampunk-japan.com/
This thread was inspiring, thanks op and to all the non-contrarians.
When I first got into lolita, my boyfriend saw steam punk in it because I was looking at military coords and he wanted me to do one. I had seen how much cgl hated it though so I acted like I wasn't interested.
I feel like there's definitely a distinct group of people here who will call certain substyles ita just because they don't like it personally or they've only seen it coorded poorly.
Substyles can't be automatic ita.
Steampunk seems to be gaining steam (pun intended) in Japan. It usually looks absolutely horrid in the west. There is hope it could look decent but I think the style should just stay strictly in steam punk, and shed the word "lolita". You can still wear it but don't call it Steampunk Lolita. Attempts at making new X lolita usually often end up ita.
>implying this is new
>implying it isn't a thing after both GLB and Kera had whole articles delicated to スチームパンクなロリータ
You are 10 years too late for a change to still be possible.
Some japanese Steampunk Lolita online article.
That pic was already posted but thanks. I really like the aesthetic of steampunk, but I don't consider it a fashion. I heard in the Western steampunk community people even make up personality's and names for their steampunk character, it's like cosplay/role-playing to them? So I wouldn't wear steam lolita for a normal day, but to an event. Does anyone remember some people used to call it steamlita?
>I heard in the Western steampunk community people even make up personality's and names for their steampunk character, it's like cosplay/role-playing to them?
And that's what jfashion is to everyone in Japan - roleplay.
It's a different culture like all countries have a different culture and the way to treat fashion is part of that. But it isn't role play. Besides, the most popular jfashions in the West seem to be larme and lolita now, neither of which was born in akiba, nor is akiba a popular place for the people who wear larme or lolita.
>grain of /salt/
but seriously, people here just cling to the latest a anti-opinion on here. if one person hates it, it'll be a meme in a week. just have good taste, don't wear cheap shit, make sure your clothes fit properly and keep the general aesthetic/rules of lolita in mind. ffs people get their panties in such a twist here.
Yes, but I meant in more of a common sense way. Like "don't wear a trashbag taped to a corset and call it steampunk lolita," rather than "wear my exact style and preferences at all times or you're ita."
but the latter is the majority of shit cgl comments I see? which is why I stopped listening to anything said here after I learned the basics because this place is only good for the basics and anything beyond that is just too much for your average gull to grasp.
See the greentext, according to you pretty much all of the fashions that can be found in Harajuku aren't fashion anymore because everyone and their mom is making a fictive self for their alt fashion persona.
Really? I find the lolita silhouette looks less modest the more grounded in the Victorian era it becomes, because knee length or even ankle length dresses were considered scandalous at the time unless you were a child, and the way steam punk is styled doesn't usually make it look young.
That article has nothing to do with jfash? Its talking about maid cafés, voice actresses and moe. Other than the pretentious interpretation it's no different to the way western women often answer "21" when they don't want to give their real age, including people in their forties or older claiming to be eternally 21. Its so much of a social phenomenon that they named a clothing chain after it.
Which it isn't, that's the actual definition of this sickness and you will find plenty of articles regarding it while searching in japanese, it's expanded Chuuni and not rare.
So seeing as you read my comment thoroughly, you know I was talking about steampunk in the West specifically. I don't care if Japanese poeple roleplay when they wear alt fashion, all I was saying is I heard the steampunk community in the West doesn't see it as a fashion.
Sometimes I'm not sure if a coord is acceptable as steam lolita because it looks too low quality for lolita
I understand the appeal of the concept - Victorian era, jules verne, early mechanics and machines - but when translated into a fashion, especially lolita, it just makes people look like a frilly homeless person.