Dutch Thread: "3D Printed Facebook Likes for Sale!" Edition

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Also reposting the infograph because why not...

Clean start, new question. The people that will go to DCC xmas edition, are you going in normal cosplay or something christmas related?

>>9234901
Not gonna lie, a Christmas themed con sounds like so much fun. I'm a huge sucker for the winter holidays, and seeing people cosplay in a Christmas theme would probably send me over the edge with joy.

>>9234901
Neither, if I'm going it will be in my regular clothes. I'm not that keen on wearing bulky cosplays on a train.

>>9234904
Funny, I'm the exact opposite of you. The holidays always make me feel extremely depressed and lonely thanks to my shattered family and how my friends are either busy or celebrating abroad. It really doesn't help either that everything on TV, radio and the internet suddenly revolves around Christmas, reminding me of what I'm missing out on.
But hey, at least I can get drunk on discounted booze and light my barbecue to cook some steaks...

>>9234901
I'm gonna wear something xmas related! I mean, I love themes for cons so why not. Might even join the compo if there is one

>>9234882
I do hope all four turn up for the meet!

>>9234888
Still lookin' lovely~

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>>9234888
5 people in Friesland? I was the only one last time. We should get a discord or something.

>>9235027
>I do hope all four turn up for the meet!
Me too, even if it's so I can satisfy my own curiosity about who the two unknown gulls are.

>Still lookin' lovely~
Thanks. You know it's kinda weird to see all these compliments from people I've (probably) never met. Good thing I'm anonymous here, I don't do well in the spotlight.

>>9235072
Honestly I wouldn't be surprised if some of those were fake entries. Then again you never know, if anything it surprises me we still don't have anyone in Groningen considering all the students here.

>>9235086
Are you saying you do know 1 of the others then?
I'll be there tomorrow at least.

>>9235094
Me and op saw eachother at animecon this year but I'm not sure if that's what is being referred to

OP you forgot Retrocon on your list!
Also I hope to make a cute christmas themed cosplay for Xmas con.

I wonder if I'm the only one thinking this way but I prefer cosplayers that buy their likes over the ones that post underwear pictures on their cosplay page to lure in all the hormonal weebs.

>>9235094
I do yes, but then again it's a small country. Honestly I wouldn't even be surprised if most of us have mutual friends or turn out knowing each other already.

>>9235108
Really? I guess this a good moment to say I am terrible with names and only remember one because of how silly it sounded.

>>9235174
Whoops, I must have looked over it because it's on the Google Con Agenda I made. I'll make sure to add it to the OP next time. Thanks for the heads up Anon!

>>9234901
I'll probably decide later. No xmas cosplay because I don't have one and no time and money to make one.

>>9235316
>the ones that post underwear pictures on their cosplay page to lure in all the hormonal weebs.
Nah, I only have an issue with those kind of people if they lie about why they post so many lewd/suggestive pictures. We all know why you do it, just don't go lying about the real reason you're posting these kind of pictures over and over.

>>9235316
I don't mind either, as long as the person itself is nice and actually does something. If they want to model in underwear; yay them. If they want to spend money on likes, good for them. If they're kind to me, I don't see any problem.

>>9235368
I really don't mind suggestive and lewd pictures. People should do it more often. Both male and female ones.

Often I wish I were an easy going person, but I get pissed off so easily by attention whores. By that I mean all of them: the whiny ones that say they have anxiety yet are the loudest at cons, this dude that says he's cosplaying x character but doesn't even wear the wig or the complete outfit. Ugh I have issues man.

>>9235375
so you can add them to your fap folder

>>9235380
Ofc

>>9235372
Trust me, I don't mind seeing those kind of pictures myself and if someone wants to make them, be my guest. I just don't like it when they try to act all "innocent and pure" about it. We all know why you're really doing it so you might as well own it. Lying about it only makes you look like a massive tool...

>>9235378
Honestly, you can hardly call not tolerating bullshitters an issue. Now mastering sarcasm up to the point where people can no longer tell if you're being sarcastic or not and using it to break ego's after inflating it for a bit, that's called having an issue. And fun. Especially fun.

whaddup dutch thread I've got a question considering the "can i cosplay a racist character?" subject, is this defended when done by the folks who see nothing wrong with the sinterklaas character? Just wanna know as I have dutch friends who see nothing wrong with it and those who heavily disagree with racial stereotypes in their traditions. Does "blacking up" for cosplay get overlooked because of that?

>>9235448
Literally who cares

>>9235448
What the fuck, are you here from the cultural appropriation thread just to hear our opinion on Zwarte Piet or something? Like your friends, we all have different opinions on that. I personally prefer the new Schoorsteen Piet.

>>9235449
(shrugs) Im curious because in the uk when it happens no one calls them out when in the open, but online its a shitfest.

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>>9235448
>whaddup dutch thread I've got a question considering the "can i cosplay a racist character?" subject, is this defended when done by the folks who see nothing wrong with the sinterklaas character?
First off, that question was about cosplaying a character who's racist in the source material, which completely different from dressing up as a racist caricature.
Secondly, there's nothing wrong with Sinterklaas (Saint Nicholas), it's Black Pete who has been the center of discussion for the past +5 years. According to the lore he is black from soot from going down and up chimneys to deliver presents to children, wears golden ear rings and has red lips (as in the upper picture). Some groups find this a racist caricature of a negro slave, especially as his "boss" is a white man. The media, craving for attention, picked up on this and turned it into a spectacle between two fronts: those in favour of changing him because "muh racism" and those against changing him because "muh tradition". Meanwhile the rational people have already decided to compromise by removing the red lips and ear rings and are currently phasing the traditional Black Pete completely for a modernized version which still fits the lore (bottom picture). However for some this isn't enough (and to those I say fuck off) while for others this is the end of the world (to whom I also say fuck off). It's a nice solution that gets rid of the offensive part, keeps the lore intact and most importantly, it doesn't confuse the kids for who this entire holiday is meant for in the first place. Now if only we could get rid of Stroopwafel Pete, Cheese Pete and Rainbow Pete...

>Does "blacking up" for cosplay get overlooked because of that?
Honestly, I can't really say I've ever seen anyone "blacking up" for anything that wasn't Black Pete and I doubt it's accepted.

>>9235316
Well, if it works it works. I think girls like Enako and Jessica Nigri don't care what people think of their strategies.
>>9235378
Everyone has social anxiety these days lol.

>>9235472
When you call someone out for having a different opinion than you on something, it does exactly what for you except for patting yourself on your back? People are never going to treat all other people equal. You have people you dislike to and you bet that you wont treat the people you dislike equal as others. When was the last time you did charity work to help the actual world out or people in need.

>>9235479
I totally agree with you anon! The modernized version is a very good compromise for both parties. I really hope we can end the discussion already with this version.

>>9235482
>When was the last time you did charity work to help the actual world out or people in need.
Right, because that totally isn't just another way to pat yourself on the back...

>>9235489
Just calling you out on just trying to better the world behind your keyboard but not in the actual world. The world becomes a better place when you call people out on things you dont agree with right?

>>9235497
I think you may have mistaken me for >>9235472. And no, standing up for your beliefs doesn't automatically make the world a better place and neither does doing charity work. If you truly want to improve the world you should to work on long term solutions. Also keep in mind that "better" is subjective as people from all races believes have a different opinion on what they consider to better. It's this very reason why I believe one shouldn't interfere with other countries and force our definition of better on them. Call me bitter but that's my two cents on the subject.

Today in: Is it cosplay or social justice?

>>9235479
Thanks! This actually answered alot of my questions around this(also I only know the festival name off the top of my head, sorry). I have friends on both side of the argument and whenever I ask, the response is either "tradition so I see nothing wrong with it" or "its awful" but never the argument in between. Its nice to see they found a middle ground with the lore still intact.


>>9235482
I dont understand what your getting at, I didn't bring up charity work at all. We don't have this festival here, I really dont understand where you plucked this from.
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The sad thing is we live in a democracy and like 80% want to keep zwarte piet black, but somehow we have to adapt to minorities because? I could say that jodenkoeken offend me because I know jewish people, but I never heard them complain.

>>9235479
I love the idea of the schoorsteen piet. My only concern is that the people who play them are easly to recognise. Many people who play Piet are teachers or work with children in some way and with only a dirty face they will just be the person they know and not Piet.

>>9234882
it's tomoFAIR amsterdam, not tomocon.
why fair? well then tomo can get away with slacking off and setting up only a dealer room without any events.

>>9235881
And this is exactly why they wanted to go full bright colours, to still make those people unregognizable for small kids. I used to be all like "its our tradition how dare you" but really, most kids over 7 don't believe anymore, its for the small kids and small kids dont recognize a face that quickly if its a totally different colour. I think for the sake of the kids, that would be a better option than the adults being stubborn and wanting a chimney pete or full black pete. Why do WE care, as long as the tradition of celebrating Sinterklaas stays, we get to keep part of our culture.. So why keep bitching and moaning and ruin it for the small ones? Last year alone with the big broadcasted Sinterklaas entrance, kids cried and parents left because the stubborn protesters were yelling, both parties!!! Is that what we want? We're ruining it for ourselves. And I know people here will not think the same as I do, because heck I used to be just as stubborn, so I just won't comment back on that..

>>9235497
>when you have to do charitywork as a child knowing most of the money wont even end up being used for the cause.

Well yeah, lets help the rich get even more rich! If you didn't know yet, you're better off making sure your grandparents wont get lonely and giving your seat to elderly on the bus than to do charitywork for big causes. Most of that money will go to the employees, "administration fees" and maybe 1/10 will end up being used. If you really want to make a difference, you better move dat ass to the places in need and help out yourself.
Its a sad reality tho.

>>9235885
TomoFAIR, TomoCON, it is still Tomo and will still not be the best of the best. After dropping GamepitBrian with his anime.amsterdam event, I think this event can become pretty interesting as Amsterdam is a total different city than Oss, Arnhem and so on. Tomo is hitting Randstad. Quite interesting if you ask me. Maybe next time they will do a TomoCON Amsterdam as well. Because why not?

Can everyone just stop complaining about the tomo events? We all know it's bad. It's getting old. Just like Wilbert.

>>9236041
Or you can leave.

>>9236041
Where was the complaining about Tomo? Did I miss something?

>>9235876
>80%
Where are the statistics for that? It's maybe more like a mere 30% that still wants Black Pete remain without changes, now that we have Schoorsteen Piet.

>>9236046
OP mentioned it and there were two (2!) posts about it. That's practically the whole thread! Stop talking about subjects I'm not interested in! Waahh!!

>>9236076
You can also leave.

>>9235876
Don't forget Sinterklaas is a commercial event with a (government) sponsored committee deciding only on how to do the national parade. By your logic the democracy should also be allowed to vote on whether or not cosplayers should be allowed back into Efteling, which songs De Staat should play at their next concert and which paintings we want to see in the Van Gogh museum.

>>9235885
But will there be a bouncy castle? It's not the same without one...

>>9235911
Pink Ribbon is a perfect example of this. Their "cause" is to draw attention to breast cancer and nothing else. They sue people/organisations who use a pink ribbon without permission, refuse donations from certain sources (i.e. nude calendars, PornHub wanting to donate $1 per view on their site) because they want to protect their "brand" and finally they spend more on their own staff than on sponsoring actual breast cancer research.
Sigh... maybe I should start my own charity called "Materials For Seagulls" so we can have others pay for our cosplay supplies.

>>9236135
Yeah, fucking blind leftists thinking the government should decide everything. Real sick of this kind of mindset poisoning everyone too dumb to actually look into politics.

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Let's grab some popcorn for what's happening in (what's left from) GamePit.

>>9236195
This is still readable, please apply some more jpeg

Wait... GamePit still exists?

>>9236201
Not for long if Renzo keeps throwing out his volunteers

Hmm, seems like the renovation of the V&D is picking up pace. Guess they are turning it into Top Shelf now. Also I forgot to bring Tully...

>>9236216
Why how inconvenient. I'll bring my tiny round seegull plush.

>>9236195
So GamePit is commiting sudoku eh? Good riddance I guess, no more shitty church cons

>>9236194
Did you read the post anon was replying to? Anything but leftist.

Did anyone notice there's alot more Avatar (with the benders) cosplayers now?

>>9236256
Yeah. Can't say I've seen any good ones though

>>9236250
Did you mean 'seppuku'?

>>9236261
Did I stutter

>>9236256
not that much more then 2 years ago. only more legend of Kora cosplayers

>>9236257
lot of nice Asami's and a few good Aang's if you ask me

>>9236265
Yeah legend of korra cosplayers are everywhere nowadays.
But I have seen a few good ones. Saw a really good asami and a good aang but dont rememer when

>>9236268
Oh I love Aang cosplays so much!

>>9236271
Me too but I hate the cringy baldcaps or Aang cosplayers with hair when its supposed to be without.

>>9236300
thats why I love the fire nation version. And the dedicated guys that just shave it all off!

So real talk: why does the Dutch lolita community have so many mentally retarded people? Afaik this isn't the case with other countries lolita communities, at worst they have a few dumb weebs or cringy autists, but not as bad as ours. Does the Dutch cosplay community have this problem too?

>>9236313
Not to the point they ruin it for other I believe. Atleast, not that I see that happen

>>9236300
Are there even good Aang cosplayers with a good baldcap?

Belgium here: please keep your special edition chick over there. We know what's bootleg and don't need to be reminded in tons of our groups

The special edition chick has been selling bootleg. Also she needs the attention because monies.

>>9236313
I've been wondering this for ages. It actively makes me not want to associate with the Dutch lolita community or go to meets. I just don't want to have to deal with that kind of thing.

>>9236313
1) Because our comm is a whole country. This brings all the mentality challenged at one place at the same time instead of being spread over a era/part/state/province/etc.

2) We Dutch, in some way, are pretty blund about mental illness. I don’t think we have more, we just openly state what someone has, instead of hiding it.

>>9236338
That doesn't mean anything. At most you can say something about how it's a fairly large community, but just because the area is larger doesn't mean shit. I also think that at a certain level you can't "hide" someone's mental illness. Of course, I haven't had any firsthand experience with a comm other than the Dutch one, so they might just not talk about these members online.

3 out 4 gulls agree, sushi and grill was a great idea!

>>9236358
And he 1 out of 4 who disagrees?

>>9236374
He never showed up.

>>9236358
Yes, thank you for the plesant evening!

if it's widely know Tomo is shit, why do people keep going?

>>9236393
Cheap tickets.

>>9236358
Had a great time, sorry for the rush

>>9236341
+ we have the largest concentrated area of autism.. and we encourage our kids to be "special". Honestly I can get tired of hanging out with so much mentally ill people, as they arent quite good in having a decent discussion. Also, these people want to move to Japan and see no problem in saying they are mentally disabled thus not having to fit in that well?! I actually had a friend of mine who had a form of autism, I got told by someone while I knew him for 3 years already! He worked so hard on making it unnoticable! I really admire his hard work!

>>9236963
It's the special snowflake generation and sadly enough those with real issues go unnoticed while a lot of people I know post how they are suffering from anxiety and how much their lives suck. And while they can work, they rather get money from the government while sitting on their asses. And' boo hoo I have no money' while they go to nearly every con and on multiple vacations. I seem to attract both autistic and emotionally unstable people, I hope it doesn't say something about me.

>>9236337
I think it's the same overall with the anime/cosplay community but the groups of autistic/mentally retarded people are bigger there and they just become friends so other groups just ignore them, that whole community is much bigger than our lolita comm anyway so it is easier to ignore and become friends or meet up with someone else.
Indeed because our community is country-wide the chance of several mentally retarded or autistic people is bigger. But even in our comm the group of depressed people and other people that can't live 'normally' is big.
Not that that is the same but somehow this 'weird' fashion attracts more non-normal people in general than other fashions I guess.
Then there is also the fact that it is a sort of Dutch thing that you have to 'accept' those people, be kind to them...it's a part of our soft cultural values and that's why the mods also won't take any action (because 'they are kind' 'they also have the right' or 'just deal with it'). Again. I do also think that the mods just don't want to because it is a weird situation anyway.
What is annoying though is that the mentally retarded people don't really get that most people don't want to hang out with them because they don't get those hints or why people try to ignore them.

This topic is pretty funny, because all around are people with autism, adhd/add or something else, so yeah also in the cosplay comm and lolita comm. What I don't get is the "special treatment". I study IT and I cant count 5 people that are "normal" (now add and adhd are easier to control but still). I can't just think about everybody having something going on up in their head so you just treat everybody like a "normal" person... same goes for the cosplay comm from what I see. I don't see people acting extra nice towards others, the only place I see that happen is in PC CosplayNL... do unto others as you would have them do unto you, but thats my opinion, I wouldn't want to get a special treatment from nobody....

I personally don't mind people with light autism/ADHD/whatever who are capable of independently functioning like a normal human being. More power to them. What I find so weird is that our comm has several people who are legit intellectually disabled and probably need a handler in their daily life. But then they're dropped off at our meets like we're supposed to babysit them. I've had to stop one girl (not J) from lifting up her skirt to scratch her crotch and flashing a bunch of innocent bystanders with her bloomerless ass... TWICE. Some of these people are basically toddlers and need parental supervision, but I'm pretty sure none of us volunteered for this.

I guess the cosplay comm is bigger and less centralized so it's easier to just ignore people like this. Still though, can you guys take them back? Please? They're pretty much just (crappily) cosplaying as pretty anime princesses anyway and have little interest in the actual fashion.

What irks me here is that autism is seen as a mental illness, but it depends on the kind of autism and its severity. I've got Asperger's, they told me back when I got diagnosed in 2001 that I could never take part of society, study, have friends or live on my own. My parents just went 'fuck that' and I currently am living on my own, in the UK, studying, have friends, and am reaching rather high goals.

Fuck the standard. While your disability give you a disadvantage, it can also give you an advantage on a different field. And you just have to learn how to work with yourself. Once you're able to understand yourself, your disability and your skills, then you can just live a normal life without too much hoohah. But this is where the severity comes in, because if it's so severe, the person has trouble with self-awareness or doesn't know what the diagnosis means, it's hard to get them help. My sister refuses her diagnosis and is slowly gaining a narcissistic personality disorder, or at least, almost. Because she refuses to accept and see.

But I'm so tired of the 'I've got XXXX and that's why...' your diagnosis is not an excuse. You know you have it, work with it. You can't fix it, but you can adapt. I also have dyscalculia, I can't do maths properly like a normal person, but the workaround is really simple: give me a calculator and we're done. A list with more than 5 items? give me a physical list or I will forget something on it. But I can still complete the tasks. It's up to you or the person who has it, basically.

>>9237163
Just let them flash people? Not having them live in a bubble either makes the grow the fuck up and realise what they are doing is retarded (heh) or makes them feel bad and not show up to meets anymore.

Why would you try and babysit them. Let "nature" run it's course.

I really don't care about all of this that much. In any group you are going to find people that you do like and people that you don't like. In this kind of hobby we find more people that are awkward or hyper, but you are missing all the other assholes from other groups and hobbies. They might not be the same kind as we have, but those groups also complain about people in their circles. Take football hooligans for example, I think those are much worse. I think people are getting too salty about a few people ruining their entire experience, I used to have that mindset, but then I just made enough friends to not be bothered by not liking one or two people.

>>9237220
The trouble is people like that have no social awareness. So they don't realise, or feel bad.

>>9236963
>Also, these people want to move to Japan and see no problem in saying they are mentally disabled thus not having to fit in that well?!
Oh boy, if only they knew how much more albeist Japanese people are compared to Dutch people.

>>9237207
>What irks me here is that autism is seen as a mental illness, but it depends on the kind of autism and its severity.
I admit I also always kind of saw it that way, but more because a lot of the people I knew who were clearly autistic, were also people that got on my nerves for being too dense to see they are being a nuisance. A part of me doesn't want to blame them, but another part of me really doesn't want to deal with them. It's good you have actually learned to work with yourself, but I really wished more autistic people learn to acknowledge it the same way as you. Maybe that would make them actually fun to hang out with, rather than a nuisance.

>>9237220
Because like >>9237241 said, they won't learn. We're not talking about sheltered socially awkward people here, but people who actually have a very low IQ. If they were ever going to realize that they're unwanted at our meetups it would have happened a very long time ago.

>>9237163
>But then they're dropped off at our meets like we're supposed to babysit them.

I don’t get why nobody has talked to the parents (or atleast, I get the idea nobody had a tough enough talk with J's parents). If it was my meet I would call the parents and say that they either pick-up their daughter/get a supervisor or she will get ditched with a killer clown. Maybe a little harsh, but I have zero tolerance towards this kind of shit parenting. You can't expect unqualified people to look after your problem.

>>9236335
But isn't she the one that goes full nazi bootleg hunting every con?

>>9237330
yes and let us please keep it at that. She is getting enough attention and I am sick and tired of people talking about her here. She will create drama every con.. please dont feed her more bullshit to complain about.

>>9237207
Fuck the standard indeed and especially fuck those who abuse their labels to get away with shit. Those people really get on my nerve for giving the rest of us a bad name.
And you're spot on about the (dis)advantages; once you realise what you're good or bad at you can learn to compensate for them. I know my shortcomings and I know at what I excel at, so for instance when working in teams I'll always look for my exact opposite to balance each other out. Or as I mockingly like to put it; some ADHD to balance my PDD.

There are some people with a noticeable lower IQ in our comm, but when I joined I also was surprised how many of us Dutch lolita's are attending university or have done that in the past. I had some high level conversations with those girls, thank you!

Sidenote: I've got a mental disability and no one in the comm has picked it up (yet).

So Dutch Thread, what has been your best recent crafting purchase and why?

Personally I have to go with my A2 sized cutting mat. No more moving the mat around or cutting straight into my desk, I really should had gotten a bigger one year's ago.

>>9237699
I bought something that resembles a mini dremel at Action a while ago. I use it to engrave glass and to sand down small spaces. It proves itself so useful.

>>9237699
Same! My best friend bought me an A2 cutting mat from the boekenbeurs recently for just 10 euros.

>>9237699
black worbla and wood precision tools for some crafting action. Going to start early on my project for once.

>>9237699
Leather and fabric for my Beatrix Puppet

I could use some advice where to buy stuff like that, pipoos seems to have it all but it's so expensive almost silly. I could use a large size cutting mat, silecone mat and decent fake leather (and 4 way stretch catsuit fabric as well). The one I bought started ripping/flaking off. Best thing I bought was a mouse for sanding, because fuck that shit. Also thermoplastic from proptimum that still seems to be on sale

>>9238221
Seconding that 4 way stretch catsuit fabric.

I recently bought a "real" dremel 3000 after the action version died on me when i had to sand bigger props for a longer time. The action one tends to get really hot and i guess it just melted on the inside.
When it comes to fabric I can advice anyone to check markets in bigger cities for fabric (Amsterdam, den Haag and Rotterdam have nice fabric spots) for a very good price. I get my fake leather for 5€/meter and it has some stretch. Also visit events like stoffenbeurs and stoffenspektakel because I got some awesome deals there, even on quality fur and that can get pretty expensive when ordering online.

Action had A2 cutting mats for €1.69 a lil while ago btw.

>>9238221
Pipoos doesn't even have that much in my opinion. Plus their prices are high (€7 for Mod Pudge, really?) and their paint selection is a joke. They never stock the full colour chart from Talens Amsterdam and have no colour matching markers or spray paint. Just ditch Edding for Talens Amsterdam or Liquitex already, they promise yellow hue #5 acrylics has the exact same coloir as a yellow hue #5 marker.
Not that my local alternative (De Kwast), is any cheaper, but at least they stock everything I could ever need and their staff actually knows what they're talking about.

>>9238310
>Dremel 3000
Friendly warning; that model has a common issue where the power/speed switch will suddenly break internally. It's covered under warranty however so do keep that receipt somewhere safe unless you feel like replacing the switch yourself.
Also the flexible shaft add-on is totally worth the money. You gain more precision with it, are able to reach new places and you no longer have to hold a clunky machine that gets heavy over time.

>>9237761
>Going to start early on my project for once.
Same here, it's so much nicer to work on your own pace rather than rushing things last minute.

>>9237824
Please tell me you are going to make a hat for it. You just can't make a Beatrix puppet without giving her a hat.

>>9238369
Thanks! I will look into that shaft because it indeed gets heavy after a while. But I just keep on grinding. HA.

>>9238371
U vraagt, wij draaien (literally.) I woodturned the first hatmould last wednesday.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YGQ-DjorU84

>>9238404
a hat out of wood? Why not use fabric?

>>9238426
It's a mould. I'll be moulding the hat out of Shimay(?) or Buckram, which is a traditional hatmaking fabric that is visible in plenty of royal hats.

>>9238428
Cool, good to know I suppose

>>9238404
That was oddly satisfying to watch.

does anybody have any extra tips on making a corset?

Anyone going to Retrocon? It's nov 27th. I'm probably going because it's close.

>>9238428
Sinamay?
Also pls marry me hatblock-making anon
I've been wanting to get more seriously into millinery but hatblocks are so expensive and I need that money for burando

>>9237636
You're Lisa.

>>9238604
She almost made it too easy for us to identify her hahaha

>>9238601
Sinamay yes! Also, not sure what's more expensive: A bowl-lathe and blocks of wood, or hatblocks in itself...

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It's alive! Who knew cheap foam IKEA floor isolation would do such a decent job at diffusing light? Now to smooth the edges and glue everything in place...

What did you guys think of EuroCosplay?

>>9239141
It sure is one of the two million compo's Animecon hosts(ok it's 11 but honestly thats just too many on one event.)

>>9239141
I liked that they had only one representative per country. The Pharah was pretty awesome, so I was glad she won. 2nd and 3rd must have had good craftmanship but I wouldn't have picked them over some of those Sakizou outfits.

So what's you guys thought on youtube cosplayers? Mainly dutch ones ofc since we're a dutch community.

>>9239436
People that cosplay youtubers or cosplayers that make youtube vids?

>>9239491
Cosplayers that make youtube vids

>>9239493
Depends, those who do vlogs don't catch my attention, but cosplay music videos are fun to watch if the costumes are decent and they are decent actors. (black44angel for example) Also I like tutorials

>>9239499
This is either Teenjuwel or Black44angel.

I strongly advice you to not advertise yourself on 4chan. This will only backfire.

>>9239436
I'm a fan of creative videos that "show, not tell". So build logs with the work actually being done and (semi) real time tutorials always have my interest. I really don't care about vlogs, cosplay music videos or convention/product reviews and I have zero interest in people who mostly do those kind of videos. Unfortunately I don't have any examples of Dutch people who make these, it seems the fast majority is more interested in vlogging about their "super interesting lives".

>>9239507
If I would be her why would I say vlogs are boring, black44angel vlogs. Wish I'd look like teenjuwel, dat ass tho.

>>9239526
Pls stop teenjuwel you're emberassing yourself

>>9239526
She looks like a MtF with Waardenburg syndrome.

>>9239562
So all the sudden we don't get to talk about cosplayers we do like? I talk enough shit already.

>>9239493
I like watching CMV's alot. Also, video's about crafting are nice too

>>9239580
Your post makes it painfully obvious that teenjuwel is either you or a close friend. Really, why do you want ass pats from 4chan.
If you really want attention just post an image of them so people can judge for themselves, because honestly, I have no clue who this nobody with a nice ass is.

>>9239526
Haven't seen it yet, so can't judge.

Animecon just posted the winners of the c4 compo at mcm.
It seems c4 is picking up steam. Also the winners are getting better.
Would be cool if it really went WCS level.

>>9239599
I don't even know her real name, all I know is she entered some kind of contest as poison ivy (dcc?) and having cosplayed a crappy poison ivy myself I like to goggle other cosplayers.

>>9239614
She did.Also competed in the prelims for c4 and wcs.

Ever been amazed by someone in cosplay, but find them average at best when they are not wearing cosplay/make-up?

>>9239785
All the time. Then again most people put more effort into their looks when cosplaying anyway, so no surprise there. Plus if you get to know someone while made up that's how you see them in your mind. It's more interesting to meet a "plain Jane" and suddenly see her in a fancy dress.

>>9239785
I actually know a cosplayer like that. She doesn't wear make-up often but when she does she looks like a completely different person. It's amazing what make-up can do.

>>9239785
I had that with so many people while watching the WCS (those introduction videos). But I think it also has to do with a lot of cosplayers just having a very plain fashion style. If they would wear something more fashionable, have nice natural make-up, and nice hair, I'm sure they would look a lot more beautiful too. So yeah, it might just be a case of bad vs good styling.

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>>9239905
Good styling really makes a difference. (and OK, also being fit in this case)

>>9239525
So like the video shared earlier in the thread?

Woah I didn't even know animecon was already selling tickets and now they're already upping the price.
Is it normal to start that early?

>>9240197
Wait wtf? I haven't even booked my hotrl yet those prices have gone up as well. Should have payed more attention

>>9240204
Lot's of people missed the announcement at animecon itself and their fb page that 2 weeks after animecon 2016, you could already book your hotelroom.

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>>9240180
Pretty much, although videos with some narration are fine too.

>>9240197
Yes, it's normal.

2 years ago you could buy youre tickets during the closong ceremony.
Animecon is the only con that opens ticket sales early and their prgramm is usualy up early march-april

>>9240275
price did go up though, I payed €53,- 2 years ago in februari, now that's €60,-, and they didn't even grow that much

>>9240279
I noticed that too. Maybe they got less funding for 2017 or something.

>>9240279
Tickets were €57,- In feb 2015
The price went up 1 euro.

>>9240295
The one euro is compared to 2016
Compared to last year that is

>>9240295
in my email it says 5-2-2015, ticket was 53,-
now look back at the image
>18 january until 31 march
it says 60....

that's 7 euros

>>9240300
aah, I see, yeah I skipped last year

>>9240301
nope tickets went up half jan to 57.
If you payed 53 means you ordered the ticket before that date and payed afterwards. Seeing as you have a month before the order expires.

>>9240301
Maybe they need the money to get a new awesome band.
I mean fripside must not have been cheap. do you even know how much a ticket to their concert costs?
Their 2015 live was 9000+ yen, and those were the chep tickets. http://nbcuni-music.com/fripside/liveinfo/

>>9239785
I get this effect really strongly with Kythana cosplay.

In cosplay really cute, out of cosplay.... a bit of a dork (not in the cute way)

>>9240278
You can usually already see the first signs of the schedule in January or so. At least the big competitions and some workshops and more stuff is added in the months after.
I think they are the only convention who gives information quite early.

>>9240375
it's only normal for a more internationally aimed event. The further people come from the better it is to know what you're getting somewhat more in advance.

>>9240371
I just looked her up and fuck... you're right. She's super cute in cosplay, but solidly below average in regular clothes. She should put more effort into her hair and makeup in daily life!

Anyone going to Vidcon? From the guestlist I only know Gigi gorgeous and I'm not exactly a fan of hers.

>>9240482
Noooooooooooope!

Tickets wayyyyyyy too expensive for something I truly don't care about.

>>9240430
Honestly that's up to her. I very much agree on the difference but as someone with a busy lifestyle I can relate.

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>>9240371
>>9240430
>>9240494
I have to agree on that. Well of course it's up to her, but she seems interested in lolita/j-fashion, so imo it would be nice to see her not just in the clothes, but also with the make-up and hairdo.

>>9240430
Same for me, but make-up is expensive and I'd rather save it for cosplay and events. Also; lazy. Not to mention sawdust, clay, plaster and all other materials that can end up on my face are not really worth the effort.

>>9240551
Everytime i read these kind of comments i realize hoe most of y'all are still poor students.
Calling makeup expensice. And here i am wondering what car im gonna buy :') and filling in house paperz

>>9240620
A real adult, wow!

>>9240620
Note to self. Never make a post on the cellphone.
Geez i sound like a five year old. =_=

>>9240659
Yup, wedding planning, buying a new house, car and vacation.
#adulthard

>>9240663
>=_=
And now you sound like a 14 year old.

>>9240620
Since when does having a car dictate you are 'adult'. I have a car and am a student as well, cars are cheaper than people often think. Cheaper than that joke what is called the NS

>>9240620
haha, my makeup bags contain probably more than €1000 though, and makeup is something you buy every other month if you wear it everyday (face base and mascara/eyeliner) soooo yeah it's expensive if you have to pay everything else, including a new car, and other fixed charges and still need to buy food. You don't need to be a student to find makeup expensive.... and essence ain't no god damn option

>>9240620
Just sayin' but my education is a little bit more expensive than the NL ones. I pay over €10.000 a year. So yeah, I'm probably relatively poor...

>>9241100
I can still find it funny that €40 for a foundation is generally thought to be expensive.
I have sensitive skin so there are a lot of brands I can not wear so I usually go for Elizabeth Arden or M.A.C.
But if you think about is 40 euro that you can use for about a year makes it less than 4 euros a month.
>>9240620 that sucks :(

* btw I did not mean to come over like a douche. I just mean its funny how I'm so much older than some of you guys and really don't have those issue's any more XD.

>>9241169
I'm not particularly young compared to most cosplayers in NL, but I'm a 'mature student' at least... one of the oldest people in class.

>>9241169
it is if you buy it every other month, and dont forget concealer, primer, tons of fixation spray, good eyeliner and a nice mascara that doesnt give you spiderlegs for lashes, good cleansers and other skin care products... like I said, not a student, still can be expensive. I don't kid around when it comes to my face....

Depends on your priorities. I buy cheapass makeup to be able to afford driving lessons and rent, so I can save up for a car or furniture.

>>9241185
I've tried all sorts of mascaras from cheapo drugstore stuff to high end shit like YSL, and what I've found is that all mascara clumps after a month or two and I'm better off buying cheap drugstore stuff and replacing it every other month. Unless you're found a high-end mascara that lasts like-new for a year or so, IMO buying expensive mascara is a waste of money.

So another con emerged: Dynamicon! Thoughts?

>>9241234
OH YEAHHHHHHHHHHHH!

>>9241234
Terrible name, can't find it anywhere.

>>9241234
what >>9241287 said. I typ it in and I get a whole page of hits but none seem like they are a convention...

>>9241290
It is missing a c: Dynamiccon.
A few cosplayers are promoting it. Also I saw AVO Forum promoting it as well.

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>>9241302
Best website ever!
>Inb4 check their Facebook page

>>9241302
aah...

well from what I can see, 2 folks that will do every event at the convention? Doesn't seem like a succes. Just another "small, nobody cares meeting, we call a convention" kinda thing

>>9241230
Well i got the tip from the girl at the M.A.C counter to save them in the fridge XD
Something about the temperature and evaporation.

>> 9241306
So its kinda like fosters home for imaginary Conventions XD

>>9241320
They haven't announced everything. So far I can see they will announce more events if they get more likes on their Facebook page.

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>>9241320
The cosplayers themselves are really nice people and they do have skills.. but this advertisement is not..... convincing.
Gamepitcon, I am not even going to say anything about that.

FYI. they will be able to teach you some nice things, but the con is trying to brag and failed horribly.
If they are not, then someone has to tell me how big the DCC compo is.

Talking about GamepitCon: will there be a next edition somewhere... in the near future?

>>9241333
OK... are we promoting in Dutch or English. This is sloppy promotion...

>>9241333
DCC was ok, i think the same level as FACTS if you ever went there, standard comic con contest, bigger than tomoshit, imagicon etc etc, maybe even equal to abunai

>>9240620
I don't have a car or house to worry about (yet), but I don't think make-up is expensive either. Especially drugstore make-up is cheap. Maybe a good idea for people who don't want to waste too much money on it: use drugstore make-up for daily, and high quality brands for special events. You can actually look good with drugstore make-up if you try. Drugstore priced Japanese and Korean brands are also cheap with a very good quality. I personally love canmake and etude house.

drugstore makeup for the base of your face is overall not that great for your skin, just to put it out there, unless you use a real good primer or use high end skin care products. Just putting cheap foundation on your skin is mostly the reason people break out that much, shit's too oily

Just a tad bit of make-up to can change your look, so it doesn't have to be expensive. Most of the time it isn't even about the money, but more the making an effort in putting on make-up. There are enough girls who don't feel like doing that and are happy with how the look.

I just don't do make-up because I'm lazy as I said earlier in the thread, and save my make-up for cosplay and events. It's always fun when people suddenly go 'wow'.
It's just not convenient for me with all the materials flying around my face. It's a waste of time.

>>9241333
Lol. Ive seen other cosplayer win way more than them. Im sure that theyre nice and all but this advertisement is just painful

>>9241454
>It's always fun when people suddenly go 'wow'
It's also way more attractive to me. Just knowing someone can look great but doesn't feel the need to do so every day just screams confidence to me, which I find one of the most attractive traits one can have. That and after a while you just get used to what someone looks like, making the one day change from "plain Jane" to "made up pretty Jane" stand out even more.

>>9241510
Yep exactly. I had a fashion shoot in London this june rather than in cosplay or normal clothes and it was hilarious to see people's reactions to it. At some point people thought I was a mildly famous person and started snapping pics too. And on one day a random dude comes to me and explain he's a stylist and I made his day because I knew how to dress myself.

I didn't tell him I usually walk around in dirty cargotrousers and tees...

>>9241401
Missha - M Perfect Cover BB Cream is very good, and only around 15~20 euros. Canmake powder foundation is also very good to cover up any shine.

>>9241569
That makes me think of the show where they searched models in the Netherlands. The girls they found looked like average secondary school girls you could have had in your class. After the 'transformation' however, they really did look like top models.

>>9241569
That could still happen if you made an effort every day, though. Like you said those people didnt know how you normally look so it wouldn't make a difference to them.

Though if people don't want to bother with makeup that's fine with me, and I definitely do understand. Now people like my SIL who don't even seem to bother with basic hygiene or manners, that I don't understand. Although she still looks awful in full cosplay makeup because she has no idea what she's doing...

>>9241619
Yes, but as I explained, there's a lot of stuff I work with. Paints, latex, silicone, plaster, foam, all kinds of glue etc. Not to mention the woodturning or welding. So while it may be pleasing to other people's eyes, it's not pleasing to my life for it costs time, money and It'll just end up covered by other stuff. So yeah, it's really not worth it to me, but I'm aware that's just my opinion.

Viencon has a location... centreparks Zandvoort. Thoughts?

God it pisses me off so badly that every time a 'bad guy' is somewhat attractive, girls will jump all over him. Like where the fuck did all the Negan fangirls come from?

>>9241997
prolly from the supernatural fandom

>>9241987
Wasn't it originally going to be at a location in Assen with swimmingpool and other entertainment halls in the complex. That location really seemed to have a lot of potential. Centerparks sure sounds like a downgrade compared to that. It makes it feel more like a paid cosplay meet than a con. I think Zandvoort isn't even the nicest tropical swimming pool location from centerparcs. If they want to charge convention prices for tickets they will have to come up with more activities than just a swimming pool. People can arrange meets with friends to swimming pools or bathing locations themselves like some cos meets have already done this summer.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yKm2W26lbf8

>>9242323
Centerparks Zantvoort is not colossalcon lol. If its going to be as expensive as a trip to Dokomi or MCM its pretty much pointless. At least tomoparty was just 5 bucks.

>>9242323
I wished I had a subtropical swimming pool nearby.... The Brits are a bit...meh when it comes to swimming and spa's. I need to come over to NL or Germany if I want to have a good time in a sauna or subtropical swimmingpool. (Ok there are some centreparks here but...yeah)

>>9242323
>>9242340
>>9242346

ha ha totally agree Zadvoort is no where near a colossalcon. And yeah for such a small country as NL we sure do have a lot of conventions.

I didn't know there was a plan on a location in Assen do tell very curious what the location was.

The pricing is going to be a important if its too expensive no way I am going to pay for just a swimming pool where I could be without a convention being organized. But the question is would you be allowed to take photos in cosplay in the swimming pool? if so then it would be more interesting. I saw on their page that the possibility was there but there will be some rules?

And is it only the swimming pool they are going to "rent" or is it going to be the whole park? If its the whole park it would be nice then the whole park would be filled with cosplayers. And splitting the cost over multiple people for a bungalow does make it less expensive. Any thoughts or does anybody know more about this?

Where can I find some good tutorials on how to make foam armors? I did a google search but the results are kinda overwhelming so i was wondering if anyone is a favourite.

>>9242399
De bonte wever keeps popping up when I google for a swimming pool in Assen. Not sure if thats the thing though.

>>9242403
Evil Ted is basically Bob Ross explaining how to armours and other stuff. Also Punished Props is currently doing a set of Skyrim armour tutorials which is more than worth the watch as it covers all the basics.

>>9242323
I'm sure they will have an event schedule and dealerroom. Isn't that the bare minimum any convention has?

I heard a new convention is coming up in america that is aiming for the "black" cosplayers among us. What do you guys think about this?

I personally think that like this, there will be build a wall between black and white cosplayers. I think we should try to coexist together on such events instead of making events that is specified for a certain "race".

>>9242481
Source? Sounds like bullshit.

>>9242486
no it's true i read about it too. Inuneko cosplay is involved. Think you can find source there. Read they're actually guests there? Apparently they're friends with the owner of the event.

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>>9242486
Found it. I'ts called Blerdcon in Washington. (I scrolled really really far down Inuneko's timeline).

>>9242481
>Fight for equality
>Go full "Fuck that, let's all sit in the back of the bus again!"
Never change America, never change...

>>9242502
>blerd
ew

I don't think anything like this would work in the Netherlands, though. There is a large black community in Washington so this con might attract enough people to survive, but the only ethnic group in the Netherlands big enough to sustain a con by itself are white people. And nobody's retarded enough to try and make a white people only anime con...

I think it's weird though. How are they "showcasing diversity" by only focusing on a specific group of people? Are their panels just going to be
>this anime has a black character!
>this game has two black characters!
>here are some pretty black cosplayers as traditionally Japanese characters but they're still slayying yaaasss queeeen!!
I mean, okay. Have fun I guess.

>>9242481
I can understand it's nice to talk with other people with the same background as you and share the same hobbies, if you are a minority. But to make a convention out of it?!

And nowadays you can easily find Black people at regular conventions anyway.

>>9242502
>comic sans
Terracon has a new friend

>>9242524
>>9242526
>>9242502
>>9242481

I think it's nearly impossible for us to understand, as racism, racial diversity and representation are a very very different thing than in Europe. Not saying we don't have racism, but nowhere near like the US. So trying to understand it from a European point of view is probably pretty pointless.

>>9242524
>but the only ethnic group in the Netherlands big enough to sustain a con by itself are white people.
Looking at all the Asian people that Dutch anime conventions attract, I'd say that there would be plenty of animo for that too. White people are btw a majority in the Netherlands, so that makes it a different context too, as opposed to minorities (since we actually have to search for people with the same background). A White people anime convention in Japan would be more of the same in meaning. But as someone who is both White and Asian, I really don't see the point of going to either an Asian anime convention in a western country, nor going to a White anime convention in an Asian country.

>>9242481
>in America

Sometimes I wish we would leave American news in America. Nothing we say is going to be heard, nor should we care because our circumstances are completely different. We have our own problems we should deal with.

Sorry for the rant.

>>9242623
No, I agree.

>>9242536
A lot of Asian people in the Dutch cosplay community????


We have like 4??
1. Elise girl with the odd eye make-up
2. The Valerie gym leader cosplayer at Abunai 2015
3. The girl who was Faith from Mirror's Edge at Animecon
4. Probably some fourth I am not yet aware of?

>>9242647
you must be blind, because there are a lot of Asians walking around at conventions, but ok

>>9242647
I agree with >>9242673, you must be blind. Just have a look at CosplayNL, and count every Asian there if you don't believe us. By far not everyone competes in competitions. I believe Maymay Cosplayer hasn't competed either, but damn, she had a lot of likes on her page, so I guess she can be considered popular in some way.

Update on puppetBea, how I 'skinned' her and then painted the skin...it looks terrifying, after painting a little less terrifying (first time airbrushing...steep learning curve). Ordered in samples to try out how the hair will look (and hopefully save the look) http://imgur.com/a/dNZRL

Her forehead now looks too large, but the 'bump' is part of the hair. I wanted to get the leather below the felt so it looked less frankenstein-y. After the hair is on, I'll look again at the face and whether or not things need modification. It's a puppet, not a realistic sculpt but... idk. I'm a bit meh on it.

>>9242733
>http://imgur.com/a/dNZRL
Looks awesome!

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>>9242733
>Her forehead now looks too large, but the 'bump' is part of the hair. After the hair is on, I'll look again at the face and whether or not things need modification.
The area directly under her nose (circled in red) could use some adjustments. Right know it just looks off, like her nose has molten onto her mouth. Other than that, colour me impressed!

>>9242762
Yes, I thought that too, but it's hard working the leather that way. that said, It's the area that bothers me most. The cheeks look fine, it's just the nose bit. I'll work on that.

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>>9242762
>>9242792
How's this? I re-streched the leather across the upperlip and repainted it, as well as the nostrils.

>>9243436
I do need to glue the lip still, it's not entirely secure yet, as I had to paint the teeth too. Sorry for the double post.

>>9243436
diff anon here but it looks a ton better! Though I did notice where as both side cheeks have fitting wrinkles, the left side on the picture has an actual fold, if possible having it a little more symmetrical could look nice!

>>9243436
Looks better already. Now I wonder how a Beatrix doll in the style of Spitting Image would look like...

>>9243476
I tried that, but it's not easy. The deadline is in two weeks time, so I'm now focusing on hair, arms and hat. If I've got time left, I can have a look at that.

>>9243489
Thanks. And that'd be interesting to see.

just like >>9238478 I need some advice on corsets too. I have patterns without instructions, it's horrible, anyone have a good tutorial or just some overal advice? Can't find too much on hip curve corsets

>>9243600
For any corset, make mock-ups. Even if you alter or draft your own pattern you're going to have to adjust it to your own body and you will end up making two to three mock-ups. It's worth it in the end though because corsets are all about the fit. Do you have any specific aspects you need help with?

The doll gives me nightmares

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Meanwhile, in Belgium people have started buying likes as well >>9244318

>>9244718
isn't she Dutch?

>>9244733
Certain terms (hartstikke, ik vind het zuur) suggest so. I posted about it in the Belgium thread because it was related to a FACTS-related competition, I don't know her.

I kinda do want to remind people that having random people from other countries liking a page isn't that odd. Accounts that are bought to like a page will also like other related or even random pages in order to not be seen as a fake account. This is why sometimes a persons page can suddenly have a weird increase in likes, even though they themselves have not bought any.

>>9244742
Funny, I cross-posted it here to give the Belgium thread some more exposure from the Dutch Thread visitors.

>>9244749
No, but suddenly gaining +200 likes because "some girl asked her school to like your post/page" is suspicious AF, especially on competitions like these. Then again why buy likes to win a 3DS when you can get them cheap from Marktplaats...

>>9244733
I posted the screencap in the Belgium thread and took it from the Cosplay Limburg group, so yeah, she's from Limburg. I believes she lives in Belgium now though.

>>9244752
Anyway I agree that it seems weird to buy likes for a contest where all you get is a 3DS. I don't like this girl either but unless she's just really dumb I don't think she actually bought likes. More likely to be someone from the cosplay community who holds a grudge.

>>9244756
She is Dutch. As you can see in the post, she is part of Nymeon cosplay. They are mostly active in the Netherlands. They make some cool-looking stuff.

>>9244889
Stop with the selfposting alreadt

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especially the first text makes me puke. I can name a dozen cosplayers in NL alone who could do a better job....

Looooool!!!!!!

€20 for a DynamicCon ticket XD
Even an a-list event like FirstLook doesn't ask that much

>>9245479
There are always people better :s

Does that mean the rest has to stop doing what they do? "That guy is better than me, I guess I should give up"

I for one am going for InuNeko and Eindhoven is a very inviting distance. However not enjoying the fact that DynamicCon is asking €20 euros for a ticket XD

>>9245483
>I for one am going for InuNeko
They're so arrogant

>>9245479
>Weet als geen ander hoe props je cosplay afmaken

Right then. I guess I can quit my degree in propmaking then. I give up. No one can compete anymore.
In all seriousness; no one is perfect, no one is going to create flawless props. Improvements can always be made and even in the age of 3D printing, finishing will make or break the prop. But hey they need to sell the workshop & event, don't they?

>>9244718
The girls from Nymeon are such whiny attentionwhores

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>>9245502
Always have been. Just because I'm filled with extra salt today, see if you can find them in this old cringe pic.

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So, who do you all think are some upcoming dutch talents? I'm talking somewhat smaller pages here, let's say like 500~600 likes or less. In terms of both photographers and cosplayers.

I'll start with Miradel who's sporting some really good photography work and lovely costume designs.

I recall last time this was asked Deathstrike was posted, how times have changed.

>>9245525
Upcoming talents you say? Well my personal favorite dutch cosplayers are Ilunaneko cosplay and Paraluna

>>9245556
Upcoming, not all over the place.

These days you need to make amazing/elaborate costumes that cost loads of money to become somewhat well known, be atractive and wear skimpy outfits or be involved in a lot of drama. The last one doesn't produce a lot of likes though.

>>9245497
Guess confidence for one person is considered arrogance for another.


>>9245525
I think LucaCosplay has potential. I am really digging her projects, and I think if she would do her make-up/wigs a bit better and her herself some nice pictures, she will be well on her way! XD

>>9245497
Really? Never had that feeling, they are very approachable.

>>9245501
Haha, it is just a promotional talk that should have been better.

>>9245614
I know. Just poking fun at how they did it. No worries.

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>>9245525
I don't see much of Strixxi but the stuff she does is cool. I love the extra efforts such as making this dragon a movable puppet.

>>9245525
Secretly hoping next time someone asks this someone says my name.

>>9245838
did you even read the fucking thread? dude gtfo?

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>>9245838
Holy fuck, someone still remembers Uncle Mugen? It's fucking bizarre to bump into a circa 2010 era /jp/ poster on /cgl/ in 2016.

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>>9245859
I actually knew him from the Renpy IRC channel, talked to him occasionally whenever he popped on to show off his latest masterpiece

Good times. I miss pre-apocalyptic wasteland /jp/.

>>9245592
>LucaCosplay
Hm I don't know, her deathwing is nice but she mostly does her own designs and looks like a fry. I would have said potato but she's skinny so..

Strixxi is adorable and I might be biased because I love Tristana but I really hope to see more of her work.

>>9245838
so..you're pretty much looking for a dutch girl to have sex with on a dutch con?

>>9245871
Her Deathwing seems very Jessica Nigiri-esque. I think? Or I might be confusing her with someone else. But a lot of people went with that design. I'm still working on a dragon-form....slowly.

>>9245896
Probably this person had a few already, because he was just sharing some "facts". And this person wasn't even talking about FACTS!

>>9245917
Yeah that's her, I've seen so many posts of her deathwing. Good that you're doing your own thing!

>>9245896
Would be nice, but I've never even been to Europe.

[spoiler]<3 Geert Wilders, squeeeeeeeeeee![/spoiler]

>>9244718
Her cosplay looks like shit anyway.

>>9245481
>>9245483
>>9245592
>XD
stop

>>9245481
You can expect more than TomoCon as we can read here: http://www.avo-forum.nl/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=6650&start=30#p145876

I think that is not that difficult?

Why are most con organisations so full of themselves, if they weren't maybe they can find a way to start a decent con together instead of tiny shitty ones. This is getting ridiculous.

>>9246039
Because many conventions approach it the wrong way. They are friends who think they can organize a larger birthday party with some theme and ask money. And if they grow, they ask friends to help, regardless if they have the capabilities or not.
Organizations like AnimeCon are recruiting mostly from the volunteers and often they become friends with each other afterwards, or not. Does not matter because that way you often get the people who can do the job they are recruited for (though I know some exceptions).

Many organizers stay within their little safe space of friends, but can't handle their own convention. We are actually quite lucky there has not been any major incident yet, but I think it is just a matter of time.

Why didn't anyone tell me how awesome Doctor Strange's costume is?!

>>9246061
One of the complaints about Animecon years ago was that it was a club of friends organising things for their friends. And in fact they still are a club of friends.

But it has grown and they are now searching for people to help out, outside of their pool of volunteers that have the capacity to grow.

>>9245556
I just had a look at that Ilunaneko but wow that is some badly constructed clothing.

>>9246560
Thiss. I don't understand why everyone thinks so highly about Ilunaneko. Her shit is mediocre at best.

>>9246664
But she does wear it nicely. Cosplay isn't just based on how well something is put together.

>>9245816
I mean, if its in a positive light yea. I'd personally rather stay amidst the shadows.
I do suppose it'd be easy to self post and act as if youre not doing so though

>>9246675
Yep, else girls like Anzujaamu wouldn't be popular either. In fact, I think the harsh truth is that most of the regular crowd looks more at this point, rather than if it's all handmade and accurate.

>>9246695
Yeah, I personally think that's a shame. Because In my opinion, cosplay is about portraying a character the way the cosplayer wants it. Wether he or she has tattoos, piercings, not accurate enough clothing or whatever, it's all about having fun. For some people it's becoming less fun, focussing on the fame and sometimes even money (prints and stuff) they get and that's what's affecting the audience too. It's becoming more of a competition and less of a hobby.

>>9245806
I loved the little dragon prop she made!! I got to feed it at Abunaicon! It was soo cute, too bad it was damaged and needed reconstruction. She did say she learned a lot because of it and was going to try some other materials for it as well.. although I am not sure if I remember everything correctly.. Abunaicon is a bit hazy for me now.

>>9246675
This. Look at practically every popular female cosplayer and you'll see that the quality of the costume isn't nearly as important as showing off nice tits and ass. Cute face is not required but it helps. Ilunaneko shows off her tits and thighs a lot and has a decently plain face (not great but doesn't kill the boner) so it doesn't matter if her cosplays are falling apart at the seams, she'll still be a better cosplayer than some fatty with more sewing skills.

>>9246675
>>9246695
>>9246791
Sex sells, it's as simple as that. Plus I recall an older thread where everyone explained what they look for when seeing a cosplay. The girls were all "quality, details, seams and make-up" while the guys simply said "tits, ass, does it fit her body and is she nice to look at?".

>>9246829
Men are sex-obsessed pigs, what else is new?

>>9245972
Never!!! XDDDDDDD ^^

>>9246831
More like humans are sex-obsessed pigs. The only difference is that men tend to be less subtle about it.

>>9246850
Read >>9246829 again.

>>9246853
That's only when looking at a cosplay. I'm talking about daily life here.

>>9246855
Really? Do you regularly hear women yelling across the street to compliment a strange man's ass? Because the reverse is daily thing.
I think both genders can be sex-obsessed, but aside from a rare few (personality disordered) women, men are the only ones who are openly and unapologetically "pigs" about it. Of course #notallmen but significantly moreso than women.

>>9246866
Cat calling? Not often. Doing a double take as a cute guy walks by followed by pointing out to her friends what a great ass he had? All the time. And trust me, we can hear it perfectly fine when this happens. Only difference is we take it as a compliment.
Also cat calling bontkraagjes != All men

>>9246866
Please stick that sexist double standard shitpole so deep up your ass so it comes out from the top again.

https://www.buzzfeed.com/rachelwmiller/stop-what-youre-doing-and-look-at-this-hot-harry?utm_term=.vtnJenzoe#.xwk8Y51gY

>>9246866
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0dVc1mDxMik

>>9246850
You're right, and I'm honestly disgusted with the way modern society completely revolves around sex. I honestly miss old times when sex was somewhat of a taboo. What people do on their own time is no business of mine, but I don't need it to pervade into everything around me.

>>9246891
I'm glad sex is no longer a taboo subject, being able to openly talk about it changed everything for me. But I do agree that there's a time and a place for everything, and me and my friends have a strict "no discussing kinky/sex stuff in public" policy.

>>9246891
Same. I'm glad that there's more sex education and same sex relationships are no longer illegal etc. but I really wish talking about sex openly in public became at least somewhat taboo again. I don't need to hear about the sex lives of people I hardly know.
>eating at restaurant after con
>notice three cosplayers at table next to us, have taken off wigs etc. but are still partially in cosplay
>two of them are apparently lesbian couple, being lovey dovey
>cool whatever
>"...and my favorite thing about your pussy is how cute and puffy it is, not too big but not too flat, and how pink it is when shaved"
>wait wtf
>third person is nodding and smiling along
>if I can hear this then so can other people at restaurant but they don't seem to care
>as if cosplayers weren't seen as freaks already

And before any thirsty dudes get excited about horny lesbian sexcapades, one was morbidly obese and the other (with the nice pink puffy pussy) was kinda ugly and had a slight mustache. But I'm sure asking them to stop would be homophobic kinkshaming or something. Ugh.

>>9246791
Then explain why Pretzl is populair.

>>9246961
>As happy as I am that you two have a healthy sex live, not everyone wants to hear about it while eating their ham sandwich.
>Really? Tell me more about her perfect puffy pussy lips! I want to hear everything! How it tastes, how it smells, how big her clit gets when arroused. By the way, have you ever used an egg with a remote in public? You really should! Oh sorry, I just can't help but overhear you two while I'm trying to eat here so I figured you wanted to involve everyone in the restaurant into your talk.
>Excuse me, but how would you like it if I started talking about the facial I gave my GF last night while you are eating your ice cream? By the way, you have a drop on your chin...
Just open your mouth next time. There are plenty of ways to deal with these kind of people ranging from being polite to embarrassing them in front of an entire restaurant.

>>9246883
Wow, someone's mad

>>9246165
Here's a breakdown of the costume
http://kialnax.tumblr.com/post/149045897720/a-little-breakdown-of-the-doctor-strange-costume

Good luck

>>9246975
My face shape really doesn't fit the character, but it's still an interesting read nonetheless. So many hand embroided parts...
Seriously, the first person I meet who successfully pulls this costume off is going to get a lot of kudos and free drinks from me.

>>9246991
Check the topic linked in that post on TheRPF. Some good ones are already out there.

So now that Halloween is over, what do you guys think about all those Harley quinn cosplayers taking over conventions and shit?

>>9246970
>react to people being TMI by being even more TMI

>>9247048
its a phase, next year it will be something different.

>>9247066
More like overreacting to their talk to make them realise just how inappropriate they are being. You'd be surprised to see how effective this is, plus it can be laughed off easily once they get the message.

>>9246970
You'd have to be really autistic to do the second one. Real life isn't some shitty comedy.

I can't think of a new thread edition...

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The current thread is on auto sage. The new thread can be found at >>9247136