Closet of Frills: OTT Edition

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>>9198961

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>>9198964

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>>9198968

>>9198958
I usually don't really care for super OTT things, but that bead work is just gorgeous. Well done to this girl.

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>>9198972

>>9198958
I hate OTT in principle but sweet holy jesus she is a piece of walking art

>>9198958
Probably my favorite coord ever quite honestly.

>>9198964
Very cute and simple!

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I like this girl.

>>9199041
hahah this is cute

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did anyone see the comments or get caps before this was taken down? Is there a reason why she posted a photo where she's balled up on the ground?

>>9198958
She won second place in the best coord contest! It was even more beautiful in person, I'm excited for more detailed shots to come out.

>>9199071
Have any pictures of what won first?

>>9198961
Her dress is so flat. It would've balanced out the neck ruffle much better if she had more poof.

>>9198958
This picture really doesn't do her coord justice. Excited for detail shots because there were so many and they were all luscious.

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>>9199077
This girl who came as the tooth fairy won. Her prosthetic looked really cool in person, and she had teeth dangling from her headdress. She also had some really beautiful wings that I can't find shots of.

>>9198958
>people commenting just to link their friends and say "this is my aesthetic"

so rude, why not just PM them? one acted surprised when OP responded to her comment.

>>9199115
nice.

>>9199120
Wtf who cares, girl in OP wasn't even upset

>>9199115
Those ears are horrible, I'd like it much more without them, or with much more subtle elf ears.

>>9199065
Banter.

>>9199227
go big or go home, anon

>>9199115
Its really nice but its a fucking costume not a coord. Goddamn cosplayers ruin lolita fashion.

>>9199115
Jesus christ how horrifying.

>>9199115
its a cool costume, but its not lolita.

>>9198958 Should have gotten first place because it was an actual lolita coord not a costume.

>>9199244
she is clearly inspired by shironuri artist No.96, pleb.

anyway, OTT, costume-like outfits for special occasions have been a staple of fashion for a long, long time.

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>>9199292
>>9199296
do you even fashion event

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>>9199305
i mean

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>>9199308
even the normiest of events see weird shit

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>>9199313
like

>>9199115
I love this so much

>>9199244
>>9199292
The point of the event is to go as OTT as possible. I love seeing the creativity people bring to it. You guys act like this fashion doesn't have roots in a time period where women tried to outdo one another to crazy extents. I can take or leave OTT in general, but let it have its place in this fashion.

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>>9199314

>>9199318
this. it ain't new (and neither is hating on it).

>>9199318
There is a difference in wearing OTT Lolita fashion like the OP photo and literally a costume though.

The whole outdoing each other with props and prosthetics is a cosplay mentality.

>>9199458
>>9199320 I guess all these ladies were cosplayers then.

>>9199462
No, just a few.

>>9199458
lolita is a costume. embrace it.

Overall I think everything looks amazing, they did really well and got creative.

>>9199505
Nice b8 m8

>>9199513
>not saying gr8

>>9199115
Somehow I managed to get through the whole event without seeing her coord, so when they announced the winner I was so confused. I voted for OP tho.

>>9199514
It wasn't that good though

>>9199318
>You guys act like this fashion doesn't have roots in a time period where women tried to outdo one another to crazy extents.
Not to be pedantic, but lolita actually has roots in entirely different time periods and vintage inspirations than the Rococo era. The Rococo era is iconic because it got tacked on by Novala Takemoto for Kamikaze Girls and a nostalgia for that past was a major part of why Momoko likes lolita, but the fashion was fully-formed before Novala ever made that connection (the novel didn't come out until 2002 and the book until 2004).

Don't get me wrong, I can appreciate good OTT, but it's more accurate to say that inspiration from the rococo era was a big turning point in the development of the fashion than that it was part of its origin.

>>9199115
I think the prosthetics and accessories are pretty cool but without them, the coord is bland and honestly not good. IMO if you're going to do costume lolita you need to make sure the lolita base is solid before you start adding stuff on.

>>9199115
The coord deserved the win, really surprised at how salty some of ya'll are. It's not even that costumey compared to some of the stuff last year

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girl get a dress that fits

>>9199087
Same with her hair. She should've done more with it or worn a wig.

>>9199065
idk why this just feels rude to me??

>>9199691i
i love her headpiece, its too bad she's busting the seams

>>9199691
>>9199707
ur jus jelly she has that dress and u dont
poorfag bitches

>>9199320
lowkey want to do this for halloween

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>>9199499

>>9199679
It's terrible. That's why people were discussing it so much.

>>9199829
Lol sorry you got posted but I own that print. It's sad to see a print I like treated so poorly.

>>9198961
>>9199115
Nice, but even by OTT standards this doesn't look like lolita

>>9198964
>>9198968
>>9198972
>>9198974
>>9199041
Is it me or is natural hair up and coming?

>>9198961
If only this had more poof

>>9199829
butt hurt much? KEK

>>9199877
IDK about the rest but >>9198974 has done natural hair with all of her coords for the past four years or so from what I've seen on daily-lolita. I do think natural hair is trending, though.

>>9199877
I would say the trend toward natural hair has been going on for the past 3-4 years after OTT sweet and everyone and their cat had a split color wig and no one wanted to look at them anymore, where have you been?

>>9200073
I have been around. Most girls in my comm wear a wig and nearly every CoF post I sse is someone with a wig

>>9199115
I voted for her. The fact that she's really small helped her fairy theme, and not that I think about it is probably why she didn't go for a bigger petticoat. Most dresses would go way past her knees.

>>9200073
natural COLORED hair has been big for a while now. actual natural hair is new

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>>9200161

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>>9200162

>>9198964
That Bodyline dress looks so good here! All fluffy and cute.

>>9199115
>ugly ass elf ears
>vampire teeth
>pointy shoes
>twigs on her head with teeth glued on
>derpy front bow
>wig cap peaking through bangs

That staff is nice though.

Seriously though what was her theme here, it just doesn't look cohesive. She looks like a hot mess of teeth and pointy things. Even for OTT this is terrible, y'all should've picked OP, she's at least put together properly.

>>9199115
The more subtle toothfairy coord at OTT was better in terms of being both visually interesting and not costume-tier but this is good if you ignore the ears and relax the expectations of the silhouette

>>9199829
honestly youre kinda right but still its ill fitting as hell

>>9200168
I know it's supposed to be kinda a joke, but I actually sincerely love this.

>>9200189
No. Actually, that outfit strayed away from "tooth fairy" and looked more nurse Kei than anything. I'm glad the ivory toothfairy won because she put more effort into her outfit than the other girl.

>>9200162
What dress is this?

>>9200226
There was another tooth fairy coord? Was it the guro nurse or someone else?

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here's a few from the past day-ish

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>>9200232

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>>9200234

>>9200226
All down to personal preference, this might be more 'fairy' but the 'guro nurse' looked better to me

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>>9200238

>>9200226
>>9200226
I doubt she put less effort in. Those teeth were all handmade.

I know it's a competition but it's kind of dumb to say someone "deserved" to win more than anyone else. They both looked great, clearly put a lot of effort into their outfits, and that they came up with the same theme bur executed them completely differently is actually super cool.

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>>9200242
end

>>9200232
is this J et J masquerading as lolita again? It's visually stunning, but not lolita

>>9200238
Her shoes are so cute and add a ladylike touch to a vintage inspired coord. All the vibrancy of tea parties with the refinement of oxfords.

>>9200247
i think in that example it actually looks plenty lolita but that is just my opinion.

>>9200243
Mmmm then it would also be dumb to say that she was "better" than the tooth fairy who won. Unless if you're the guro nurse and just mad because you thought your idea was going to be original? I don't know.
To be perfectly honest, both of their coords were super costumey anyway. But if I had to chose from the two, the tooth fairy who won is better because of all the effort that was put into it.

>>9200247
Wtf? This is definitely Lolita

>>9200168
this is so cool!

>>9200268
Nope, and I'm also not the person who said that it was better. I had just heard that she had spent a long time making parts of her outfit, so saying it was less effort is simply untrue.

>>9200300
>I heard this thing in passing that contradicts your argument so you're wrong
Not even who you're replying to but your argument is outright retarded. No matter how much time the other tooth fairy claims she spent working on her outfit, there's no way it took more time than a custom prosthetic with dozens of handmade teeth. Either you're 15 years old and don't understand logic, or you're just jealous you didn't win.
Either way, this whole conversation should be in the OTTea thread instead, so I'm going to make a couple quick CoF comments to keep this post relevant.
>>9200168
I want to say this is dumb, but the fact that she's now a walking itabag is kind of fantastic.
>>9200161
This just doesn't make sense. Also, the way those tights are dyed unevenly is really annoying.
>>9198974
This is gorgeous. The colors are balanced perfectly. Also a perfect example of using your natural hair in lolita.

>>9200351
>other guro coord
Not other tooth fairy. Fuck typing without coffee.

>>9200226
>glad the ivory toothfairy won
Not the person you replied to but did you even read? They said they liked the guro nurse more cause it was less ott BUT THE ONE THAT WON WAS GOOD MINUS THE SHAPE + EARS in their opinion . What is the point in saying 'no' to an opinion that just doesn't match yours?

>>9199877
>>9198968 here, I just wanted to clarify that mine is actually a wig in this photo, but I agree with your point that natural styling has definitely become more favorable in recent years, now that the community has transitioned out of the OTT sweet craze as it existed back in the early 2010's.

>>9200516
>now that the community has transitioned out of the OTT sweet craze as it existed back in the early 2010's
Sure, honey. Keep telling yourself that.

>>9200521
didn't you know? OTT classic is in now

it's a requirement to blend into your grandmothers couch or you're ita

>>9199691
I like the headpieces, but if you are of this size putting a donut on your head doesn't make things better for you.

>>9200521
I'm sorry, did my post make you think I was implying no one wears OTT sweet anymore? Because that's obviously not true, but if you think it's as prominent as it was six years ago I have some news for you.

>>9199691
I love her tights! Does anyone know where she got them?

>>9200528
Wow anon, you're mean. I think it's great she can laugh at herself.

>>9200544
Not the Kawaii Goods baiter, but I'm 98% sure that's where they are from.

>>9200234
This is not lolita, or even cute. Or even aesthetic. It is only coordinated.

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>>9200660
>you

>>9199691
Personal thoughts aside, this doesn't really belong in this thread. That's from yesterday's meet, not O-T-Tea

>>9200254
Are you a shoe salesman?
I know you're in work mode rn, but you need to calm down.

>>9200718
This is a CoF thread, it's not exclusive to the OTTea party, it's just named after it because there are a lot of coords from the event going up rn.

>>9200718
Hun, this is a COF thread, not an OTTea thread.
Please lrn2read

>>9199115
Ew.

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>>9199308
This girl's so high I can't even. I mean look at her face.

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>>9200717
Yeah ok that's cool, but your coord still sucked anon.

>>9200660
are you one of those people that think if someone is wearing shironuri, it's just shironuri and can't be other things as well?

>>9199853
prove it shit talker.

>>9199829

Nah, I just have better taste and can fit in MM.

>>9200238
the hair is perfect
>>9200242
which dress is this?

>>9200154
Define "new".

>>9200168
Cute, but not lolita.

>>9200955
You keep saying this,like it's going to make you less wrong.

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>>9200722
No?? I thought this thread was for commenting on clothes

>>9200271
Are you sure? On what planet are these the same fashion? J et J needs its own 'vaguely historically influenced dramatic mishmash' label.

>>9200247
The thing with J et J is that it's not lolita as it is imo, it needs to be layered with underskirts and frilly blouses to evolve into its lolita form.

>>9200242
>>9200916
This girl always wears offbrand. And that's a blouse and skirt not an op

>>9200968
What is lolita about it besides the otks and the mildly A-line skirt? It was for an otome brand event and I'm happy to call it otome, but labeling it lolita as well is just wrong. If this is lolita then everyone wearing A-line dresses with cardigans from H&M is lolita as well.

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>>9201030
>>9201047
Alright then, what do you think makes something lolita? Not all lolita things are frilly and covered in bows-- plenty of classic brands produce things that are really simple and historically inspired and I hardly ever see people piss and moan about them not being lolita. Look at VM, MM, etc.

This VM dress is very simple, a relatively small a-line and would still be totally wearable outside of the context of lolita. Would you argue that it isn't lolita? Lots of lolita clothing pulls very directly from different historical periods so I'm not sure how that makes JetJ any less lolita.

Unless it's because they sometimes pull from periods other than the rococo and Victorian ones that folks have such boners for.

>>9201074
I think the issue that most people have with JetJ painting dresses is that most of them don't have any detail outside of the print. The JSK you posted has pleats, gathers, and bows that are arranged on a dress in a way that is pretty conventional to lolita, whereas >>9200232 is a plain dress with a box pleated skirt. JetJ takes a pretty minimalist approach to the cuts of their painting dresses, and often it strips off so much dress detailing that people begin to question whether it counts as lolita at all.

>>9201074
I actually like J et J, but a lot of their things aren't 100% lolita. In this case I would say the VM dress is lolita, because of the details on the chest area and trim.

J et J produce really pretty things, but in the past few years they've put out print after print with hardly any construction details. I miss their old styles, they were the king of classic lolita to me.

>>9200968
Do some research, its not lolita.

>>9200227
BTSSB's Marie Antoinette Beautiful Splendid Queen Portrait.

>>9200177
I agree. I think a lot of people fail to recognize that just because something is the most OTT coord, doesn't mean it's the best OTT coord.

>>9200968
if I'm not mistaken, this was worn to a pepfox meet... which is an otome indie brand... so it's unlikely she thought it was lolita either.

now to the people screaming because "wahhh not muh loliters," im fairly certain you can post otome on cof

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>>9199115
I'm assuming it's kinda inspired by Colin Christian?
I like the idea, and some parts of the execution, but I feel like it looks kinda messy overall.

>>9201080
>>9201086
The painting itself is busy already, the designers probably think it would be too much with any extra details (and they right). Jetj is a lolita brand, the designers mean for their designs to be lolita so who are you to say it's not

>>9201249
I'm glad I got the leather bat bag. If the glitter ones looks like this I'd rather have none at all.

Otherwise a really basic coord.
Really makes me think if I should wear my wine JSK at all. It was such a dream dress for me and I still like the overall design, but I feel like I've seen it all.

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>>9201080
>>9201086

Not the anon you replied to, and actually I also mostly think of JetJ as a lolita brand only because you can at least count on the dress being able to fit a petticoat and can be styled lolita 99.99% of the time.

However, I don't really agree with judging how lolita a piece is by how much detailing it has. I feel like you'd have to throw out a few of IW's dresses, maybe even moitie for being similarly simple.

JetJ probably gets more attention for being almost non-lolita because unlike IW or Moitie, they aren't really sticking to tried-and-true formulas of what we know to be lolita. I guess they do often end up producing things that are barely lolita, or require ten other frilly things before looking lolita, but on the other hand I can kinda appreciate a brand doing some exploring and not just making the same-old-same-old dresses.

>>9200161
why is that guy always covered in blood?

>>9201246
By that logic, every ita who wearing a skater dress with a petticoat underneath is wearing lolita because they mean for it to be that way. And I never said JetJ wasn't lolita, I just pointed out why I think people might say they aren't.

>>9201265
I think some people are so used to seeing one way of lolita(AP?) they question everything that looks different

>>9199115
so much costume. If this was the winner then way too many people are treating this fashion as a costume/cosplay. Gross, really. But yeah apparently OTT means costume by now. Expect lots of cosplayers coming next years.

>>9199691
If only she had a cream blouse, then she would have been a real donut herself. Which I guess is what she really wants to be.

>>9200238
I would like this coord on somebody else. Her boobs look so sacked or something or maybe she doesn't have a waist.

>>9201314
Yeah. I'm really starting to think more and more that this is the case and it's honestly pretty frustrating. It makes me think that the fashion is just going to get stuck in a loop without any real evolution going on.

>>9200238
she looks nice but she also looks like a less ugly margaret palermo and it's bothering me...

>>9200168
I'd be afraid to lose my brooches or get them snagged off!

>>9201350
honestly, it's very annoying that there are only two big styles of lolita feedback out there: the hugbox "everything looks great!!" mentality, and the humorously stringent "follow all of the guidebook rules, plus a bunch I just made up or you look like trash" group. it doesn't allow for any positive movement in the fashion because all of the experimental people are getting hardly any feedback at all and the people with more taste are hunkering down on more and more specific outlines of lolita.

>>9201389
oh my god yes this

>>9201102
Thank you, kind anon.

>>9201086
I miss their older styles too. I love their detailed solid pieces and their older stuff that took inspiration from historical looks that aren't as common in lolita. I like some of their painting dresses too but not when the entire dress is covered in painting.

>>9201246
Hot Topic produces lolita too, then? C'mon, anon.

>>9201254
have you thought of doing a Christmas coord? I think it'd look good coorded with white

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>>9201565
>has bat wings on it
>why don't you do a Christmas coord?

>>9201570
i think they were talking about wine jsk you mentioned earlier, anon, not the bag.
i mean holy lantern has some little bat wings in the print but not enough to justify doing a whole bat motif, stars or maybe some moitie candelabra stuff are about as creative as it gets

>>9201593
The bat wings on the print are what I'm talking about you idiot. How do you look at a bat wing print and think "hmm, I'll do a Christmas coord!" ?

>>9201593
>>9201570
I think they were responding to how to make a refreshingly different coord with wine HL. With all the stars, candles, crosses, etc I actually love the thought of doing something christmas-y with this. I might steal that idea...

>>9201597
Please post it here so I can laugh at your bat wing xmas coord.

>>9201597
>someone is retarded enough to do a Christmas coord with APs Halloween print

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>>9201598
>>9201601
95% christmas-y things
5% bat wings (on the christmas shit)

I vote new ap christmas print

>>9201607
I seriously want you to do this and post it here so I can laugh.

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>>9201607
>Holy lantern
>APs Halloween print
>APs spin on gawf
>Christmas

>>9201609
I'm going to wear that obnoxious batwing head dress too, just to make it better.

it will be like Christmas with kawaii Dracula. my dream.

>>9201123
There is a disproportionate amount of 'this is not lolita' being thrown around. You must be on the spectrum if you can't recognize that lolita is a spectrum.

>>9201628
listen, I'm just as sick of the lolita-police as the next person. really. but otome is its own style, not just Lolita's where you toss petti-less lolita & mini skirts. and the fact that people were crying about something not being lolita at an otome brand meetup was irritating me.

>sage because I think we have the same issue

>>9201628
>Lolita is a spectrum

You'd know a lot about spectrums, wouldn't you?

>>9201597
do it anon. seriously, some gold accessories to accent the zippers, a christmas coord would be beautiful.
the bat wings are so small, and are attached to the candelabras, which get most of the focus. there's just one salty anon in here, but luckily, there's no need to dress to please them!

>>9200246
Why isn't she wearing legwear?

>>9201385
same anon. the right picture looks so much like margo that it scared me a little.

>>9201328
one of my cosplayer friends is already starting to get into lolita because she treats ott as sakizou-lolita mishmash costumes. i can definitely see cosplayers start to get into lolita for the ~e-fame~ (although there isn't much to be had).

>>9201854
She is, chocolate tights.

>>9201898
it's a forced joke, anon

>>9201898
Not sure why she gets away with it when a white girl would be attacked :/

>>9201907
...inb4 "chocolate prints are brownface"

>>9200162
>>9201907
Don't worry, this white girl has no legwear too.

>>9201246
also, the GLB categorizes them as such and i trust the Lolita Bible when it comes to these things

>>9201328
>apparently OTT means costume by now
where have you even been the last century of fashion events?

or where have you been since shironuri became a thing?

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>>9201595
>How do you look at a bat wing print and think "hmm, I'll do a Christmas coord!" ?
How do you NOT think of Christmas when you look at bats?

>>9201907
Are you kidding? I've seen so many white girls get away with mediocre hair just because it's semi-straight. It's like they don't know what a straightener or curling iron is. Or a fucking brush.

>>9201655
Already made that joke anon.
>>9201652
It was posted to COF, Otome has it's own thing on FB. One would naturally assume one thing or another about the intentions of the girl. I know Pep is otome, but plenty of lolitas love and wear it. Wishing I didn't pick this particular image to soapbox, but do you at least see my point?

>>9201966
...what the ever loving fuck are you even talking about?
>what is reading the thread before ranting

>>9202007
They're trying to pretend like "white girls don't get away with stuff like tights that are near skin color! Wah!" I'm pointing out that white girls get away with even worse shit, like their entire hairdo.

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>>9202068

>>9202068
u wot m8

>>9198961
those shoes are exquisite

>>9200254
Dood you can get those at walmart, chill yah

>>9198958
what's her tumblr url again? lavender lily was it something?

>>9200722
good post
good dubs

>>9199115
disgusting af

>>9202245
Lavender-lilly I think

>>9201652
*otome is its own style in the West
If she didn't want people to judge her coord by lolita standards she shouldn't have posted it in a lolita group

>>9199115
epic fail. just no

>>9202258
>>9202363

We get it, you're a 13 year old samefag

>>9202258
The very meaning of ita is 'it hurts to look at.' This most definitely hurts to look at. I guess it'd be cool for a Halloween outfit though

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>>9202400
I wouldn't call this lolita.

>>9202400
This coord was not worth posting to cof imo. How boring and unflattering.

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>>9202401

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>>9202404
She said she styled her hair. In what world is this styled?

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>>9202405

>>9202400
I really like seeing simple coords like these

>>9202401
She looks like a mom wearing her kid's clothes because she's a ~hip mom~

>>9202400
I love this, its so refreshingly simple

>>9202407
>>9202435
samefag

>>9201385
Really? I was thinking moreso the woman (whose name escapes me at the moment) who voices Louise from Bob's Burgers.

>>9202460
Why would I leave almost the same comment twice

>>9202402
This is 100% the reason why people complain lolita is OTT mostly or not daily wear any more

>>9202509
it's not like it started out as being simple/everyday wear, so I don't know what you mean by "anymore".

>>9202529
no, but it didn't start out as being a once-a-month near costume either. it was a street fashion, one changed into in public restrooms and worn with regularity. no one's taking away your precious madonna veils and scepters, just let us enjoy wearable coords.

>>9202530
go ahead, but when people say it's boring then dont get butthurt if the style has never been about being boring. people changed into it in public restrooms because it was so extravagant compared to normal clothes, not because they just wanted to wear a different' "everyday wearable" outfit.

>>9202532
You know nothing about the history of lolita do you? Like nothing.

>>9202401
If you're going to wear a normie cardigan with lolita (or otome or whatever she's going for), at least make sure it fits. I can forgive some awkward fit with Japanese brand items that only come in one size but you can find plain cardis like that everywhere, so why not go a size or two up?

>>9202404

I'm not a fan of this girl after the rolling around in the craft aisle episode. But I have to admit her more toned down coords have been really nice
>toned down in comparison to what she normally wears

>>9202532
Agreeing with the other anon. The origin of the fashion wasn't crazy OTT. It was pretty "everyday wearable". Do some research.

>>9202551
I'm not talking about crazy OTT. But I'm talking about more than just "everday wear" like "bow and plain but kinda poofy dress". Old school definitely didn't look as boring as the outfit they were talking about.

>>9202406
very nice concept for OTT hime

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>>9202652
i blame prints. old school, even in its most basic pseudo-ita forms, tends to have more visual interest due to construction and design elements rather than brightly-colored prints. other fashions also use colorful prints, but few fashions outside of lolita have the distinctive trims and flourishes.

prints have mostly replaced the "pintucks and lace" of yore, though. the coord in question is an acceptable casual coord in the new style but not really taste.

>>9202547
there's a bow on the sleeve. I'm pretty sure it's brand (probably etc or something otome and sized for ants)

at that point, though just buy an off brand cardigan. it's not like you can't find ones with cute details

>>9202406
i hope the bag wasn't part of her coord and she happened to be hanging on to it at the time

>>9199115
I love this concept so much as the idea of the 'tooth fairy' im assuming the tea part is suppose to be OTT anyway and its so close to halloween why is there so much rotten teeth over this coord?

>>9199115
I feel the bandage over the edge was a cop out as she couldn't get it to blend well.
Otherwise I just think it looks disgusting and isn't part of the lolita spirit/asthetic. Maybe guro lolita, but that's as much of a thing as ero. Neither of which should win a coord contest imo. Was this popular vote and not actually judged?

>>9202406
I love this! Very original and good execution. My one criticism would be a more organized and thoughtful headpiece. A flower crown with butterflies might have been a better choice.

>>9202435
>>9202407
i refuse to believe anyone actually feels this way

>>9202670
Brands still put out plenty of detailed printless dresses though.

>>9202840
Yet we're talking about one brand specifically that has switched to producing dresses that only feature a print, with very little construction detail.
JetJ doesn't make pintucks and lace their key features anymore.
Are they really lolita, or are they expensive normie cut dresses? Sure the prints are cool, but a print isn't everything, and lolita is not just about the print you have.

>>9202925
I just got into this scene but I'm starting to think that my hatred of prints and pastel decorations is making me a mixture of sweet and classic. I just find plain colored dresses with beautiful construction so much more elegant that OTT prints.

>>9202406
This is an absolute pleasure to see. Something unique and beautiful and not too out of the rules too

>>9202406
I like the idea that she was going for, but I don't think that it was executed very well. There's no orange in the legs/shoes when it's fairly even istributed everywhere else, and the butterflies on her head don't quite math the overskirt.

And I can't quite pinpoint what it is, but it also feels like the coord is missing something...

>>9202925
I think another big part of it is border print vs overall print. JetJ is sometimes just a clusterfuck mishmash of colour

>>9202529
It started out as a street fashion, not special occasion wear

>>9202652
>But I'm talking about more than just "everday wear" like "bow and plain but kinda poofy dress". Old school definitely didn't look as boring as the outfit they were talking about.
It did often look that basic, maybe you just haven't seen a lot of those coords because why would a magazine have street snaps of a boring coord

>>9203110
Orange shoes with this would be pretty tacky anon. Maybe its your taste that's off.

>>9203352
Not this shit again.

>>9203352
>>9203352
coord is just casual, it's fine, not good, but okay because it's casual. But it's just her face is 'off' actually I think. And maybe she needs to wear something around her wrists, those arms/hands aren't really pretty desu.

>>9203352
I don't see many issues with the coord, other than it being boring, but her face really makes me feel uncomfortable.

>>9203352
insta-brows matching with the coord.
insta-makeup is killing it

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>>9203352
>that cardigan button

>>9203352
frumpy/10

>>9203352
I love her hair

>>9203352
I just saw her post on CoF and she doesn't sound full of herself at all, I call vendetta

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>>9203402

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>>9203405

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>>9203406

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>>9203359
>casual

>>9203352
I thought this was Jillian at first.

>>9203352
This is cute

>>9203406
I adore this. Not intentional (?) but her hair looks so good with the bag + shoes

>>9203399
Last time she was posted the thread became derailed by anon(s) who decided that she looked too smug and fatties shouldn't smile. I'm not one to call vendetta easily but I think in this case it applies.

>>9203437
Highly doubt it's the case now since she is not being called fat (even though she is). I also feel unpleasant because of her expression. It's like shes not enjoying lolita and just wanted to post a picture for attention. I don't like those kinds of people (even though I have never met her and could be wrong about this).

>>9203450
I really don't see any smugness, but that could be because I do know her IRL and she's not a smug or arrogant person at all. If anything she's a bit of a country bumpkin' insofar as our country has those.
>sage for derailing

>>9203399
>>9203437
>>9203457
Definitely vendetta. I don't know this girl well but it's common knowledge that a girl was banned from our comm after making death threats towards her and other members. The other girls have also gotten very odd things said about them on cgl as well.

>>9203472
I am a part of this community and I know this is a lie. No one received death threats. Just a bunch of autistic people throwing shit at each other. It was already disproven that this "banned" girl had anything to do with the posts in the other thread since she was literally under anesthesia and afterwards in the hospital for a full week. I can't imagine her giving a single fuck considering she is the one who broke of the friendship (chat logs are available on her website and Facebook).

I for one think that this Jill looks like she just sniffed dogshit and that literally has nothing to do with her personality. She is a pathetic individual and I imagine she would be the same kind of person to throw rape accusations around to anyone who gets in her way.

>>9203484
THIS. FINALLY SOMEONE SAID IT.

>>9203484
Then why is she "banned", are the mods of your comm so incompetent?

>>9203472
It is true that literally anyone who accused this girl of anything has a diagnosis of autism or a personality disorder. In a horrible community like this, who even knows what really happened and isn't it a blessing to not be a member of such a community? These are important philosophical questions.

>>9203489
Theres a chat log between a moderator and this person. The moderator expected this girl to proof she didn't make death threats, something that can not be proven as you can not prove a negative. At most there was namecalling, else the police would have gotten involved.

>>9203489
I am pretty sure this is about the dutch lolita community. We all know what kind of cesspool of filth they are.

Can we please skip the irrelevant drama?

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>>9203504
I've never heard of any drama in the Dutch comm and I'm extremely curious. But this is the CoF thread

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>>9203515

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>>9203519

>>9201240
this was exactly what I thought, I was gonna post this too but you beat me to it.
>>9203402
is this k8?????

>>9199691
The coord is cute, but I dislike the pose.

>>9200238
I like seeing toned down and vintage inspired coords like this.

>>9202401
I like it when people wear lolita in a normal way, but why post it on CoF when it's not coorded as lolita?

>>9202406
I adore this coord.

>>9203646
Well someone saw the RC post

>>9203646
no, it's nina, kek

>tfw one efamewhore gets mistaken for another

>>9203646
>is this k8?????

lmao i love you anon. that was crazy.

>>9203435
Probably intentional, I do the same thing with blonde hair. Straw bags and light brown shoes balance it well, so it's great for country coords.

>>9202925
wrong conversation. the dress in question is an AP sack dress.

>>9202529
you need to look it up what "street fashion" means

>>9203872
What? I'm new but isn't this owner of the lockshop-real model etc. girl? I was pretty sure she was her. Am I mixing up people?

>>9204093
Yep that's her. Despite managing to fuck up her customer service and screwing over everyone who buys from her she has a dedicated pack of idiot followers.

>>9204093
>gets told it's Nina
>"Are you sure, I thought she was Nina?!"

wat

>>9202935
This is not uncommon, loads of oldschool and classic girls share your opinion.

>>9203110
Orange in the leg/shoes would look bad, anon, you sound like a noob who's just learnt "babby's idiot-proof guide to colour-balancing" and thinks it's compulsory.

>>9204099
Seriously, why is anyone acting like she's better than Kate?

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posting more coords before this thread gets way off topic

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>>9204123

>>9204121
Because at least she has the ability to do her own makeup, probably

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>>9204126
pr sure this is a replica

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>>9204128

>>9204127
Kek. Touché

>>9204123
I hate the choice of tights/shoes but otherwise I like this

>>9204126
already posted here >>9203405

>>9204128
Yeah, the fabric looks really thin... of course, she's claiming it's AP. Wish people would stop doing this, it just makes you look even more tacky than you already do for wearing a replica.

>>9204099
>>9204103
Then I guess I have no idea who is Kate.

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>>9204128
I'm the girl pictured. I know it's uncool to defend yourself, but it's not a replica.

>>9203646
Jfc I just thought it was a funny post, I don't know why people got LEGIT heated about it. Probably because Choke doesn't like to be thought of as the same annoying-tier as Kate.

But desu, if Choke had slightly fuller cheekbones then her face in her recent pic would look exactly like Kate's. Barely anyone had the balls to say it on RC though, aside from posting memes.

>>9204128
Doesn't look fake to me, just in need of an ironing. It's not a super rare dress or anything.
>>9204163, I think it's fair to post a proof, thanks.

>>9203646
I swear I thought it was Kate too, same makeup and everything, is she copying her?

>>9204168
Chokes chin is nowhere near the size of kats.

>>9204127
I bet Choke is in this thread, she hates getting compared to K8, but sometimes they legit look the same, they both dress well tho

>>9203402
Her lips are really bothering me

>>9204163
It's fine to post proof, I own this dress as well but I also thought it looked a bit off but couldn't tell if it was just wrinkly. The replicas for that dress that I have seen photos of look super wrinkly and thin so I can see why a anons thought it might be. Just iron / steam it and it'll look much better I think.

>>9204168
I thought it was Kate for a moment too. People flipped their shit because it's RC:U, which is equal to cgl in terms of pettiness but shittier in every other aspect.

>>9204205
I love how all the people sperging on that thread are ugly as fuck lmfao no wonder that place is a cringe festival

>>9204229
and yet you're there too

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Why has there been a recent influx of people posting without their goddamn shoes on

>>9204258
...no (lolita) shirt, no shoes, no service

ha

seriously girl needs to get a damn blouse and some mary janes

>>9204163
Nah you're fine. I think most of us just get annoyed when people come here defending their actual coords. On a related note I love that dress.

>>9204258
It's the same girl

>>9204258
Oh god, what if we started being targeted by foot fetishists?

>>9204303

Maybe we are

>foot exhibitionist fetishist
>knows we're autists who get rustled by wrong footwear, never mind no footwear
>gets off the humiliation of not having footwear with her coord and being posted on /cgl/

>>9204153
Popcorn girl with the lumpy hair is Kate.

>>9203508
She's so cute!

>>9204303
I actually gad a foot fetish Instagram comment on my pic how "the socks were the best". Just ignored it.

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>>9202400
Ugh, I hate that dress. It reminds me like a mixture of a grandma-dress, a nightgown and the fat-Homer overall...

>>9202404
If she stopped wearing literal drag queen tier lashes and styled her wigs better she has coordination potential.

>>9204180
>nowhere near the size
Lol. Oh anon...

>>9204550
Mumu

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Joke coordinate or not this is hideous, eugh
>stickin m leggy out

>>9204667
What is this even a coord of?

>>9204667
Is this supposed to be a vaporwave coord?

>>9204713
Something really weird is going on with her poof and it's throwing the whole coord off for me

>>9204667
A E S T H E T I C

>>9204258
I don't hate this as a casual coord t-b-h
Just needs shoes and a poofier petti

>>9201918
actually she has transparent dot leggings you f*8,

>>9200232
I wonder what petti she's wearing

>>9203402
wow, look who it is!!
I don't think I've seen her post in CoF this year at all. I see she's wearing her new shoe design, perhaps that is what brought her out of the woodwork

>>9203407
not lolita, but interesting?

>>9204712
nice

>>9204258
She keeps posting her 'casual lolita coords' which don't look like lolita at all. No petti, blouse/cutsew and where are her shoes?

>>9204720
kys

>>9202406
My favorite thing about this is her hair, we don't see a lot of beautiful natural hair like this often

>>9206009
pretty sure it's a weave anon, but yes it does look quite nice

>>9203515
That blouse looks terrible with the neck shape for that dress. Also has she ever looked this old?