Pet Peeves Thread

>>9174411

>>9174395
>>9174395
Did this post trigger you, anon? Do you want to talk about it?

>>9174431
Seems like it did, thats what I though when I saw this thread too.

>>9174411
modest means someone who is humble about their achievements

Pet peeve: FUCKIN G EMPIRE WAIST DRESSES, FUCKING TRAPEZE DRESSES, FUCKING MUMU DRESSES , FUCKING EVERYTHI NG HIGH WAISTED

>>9174411
Anon its.... Its just a frequently used term.... Are you ok?

>>9174456
sorry you're too fat to have them look alright on you.

>>9174431
>>9174434
I didn't see that post and the link is gone. I started this thread because I saw some lifestyler girl on tumblr talking about how it's so wonderful how modest Lolita is and it annoys me that people use that word to describe a fashion that is the opposite of what it actually means.
>>9174448
Yeah, but not in the context of clothing. It has multiple definitions depending on the context.

>>9174458
Sorry your taste is shit enough to like those cuts

(Also spoiler alert; they look bad on everyone, regardless of size)

>>9174457
Yes, and it's frequency triggers my inner autist because it is factually incorrect.

>>9174458
I'm well within the measurements to fit them, I just think they look ugly.
It's a pet peeve thread anyway,peeves are subjective, de-salt your vagina

>>9174463
There are multiple definitions of modest and I can really see how things can be confusing.

>having or showing regard for the decencies of behavior, speech, dress, etc.; decent:
a modest neckline on a dress.

Lolita would be considered modest in this form as you're not showing much skin, even if it's a "showy" fashion. But then you have the other definition of

>free from ostentation or showy extravagance

Which kind of throws that out the window. I just think you're thinking too much into it. These people are just probably referring to not showing much skin and more classic outfits.

>>9174467
Sack dresses look bad on nearly everyone but empire waist is literally a classic cut in and outside of lolita, and not because everyone looks bad in it. Sorry you're top-heavy I guess?

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When people say loli instead of lolita even when they have knowledge of the fashion.

Salty about this since I was just reading a thread discussing it, but I hate people that think they're superior lolitas to anyone who partakes in "scandalous" behavior like drinking, smoking, and sex. This mindset means you're actually an inferior Lolita, not superior, because you know nothing about Takemoto or his essays. I personally prefer the more "pure" side of lifestyling, but I know enough about the fashion to know that doesn't make me a better Lolita than those who live more by his philosophy.

How all the newer AP prints I want these days come in cuts I hate or are too short for me.

BJD people who can't keep it out of meets. I have no problem with people bringing BJDs to meets if they're wearing burando doll clothes or whatever, but unless there's a relevant reason to bring it, please leave it at home.

Fandom coords. I know this complaint is old as time, but I feel like they've gotten worse and more common lately. I think it is possible to do a nice fandom coord, but usually they're really ugly and cringey.

>>9174476
Unless you have really small boobs, even if you're super thin, empire waist will make you look pregnant.

>>9174463
Anon someone responded to that exact modest comment with the same gif that you used. You're not fooling anyone.

>>9174495
I think you need to chill, you've posted in like two threads about Takemoto and you really seem to be triggered by this. Lolita has many fucked up girls in this fashion, just look at the feels thread, it's a fucking wreck who posts in there. No one is inferior or superior because of reading essays, smoking or whatever the fuck. Just where the fucking clothes, have fun and stop being so upset about comments on the internet.

>>9174495
>if you don't listen to this creepy old stoner guy who dresses badly himself and produced a hideous clothing line that flopped spectacularly then ur not a rl lolita!!!

>>9174473
Even for the first definition you quote, one could argue Lolita still doesn't fit since it's considered by normies to be inappropriate for most ocassions.

>>9174476
I literally just don't like the way they look. I fit them -- I'm pretty flat-chested myself, I just hate them with a burning passion.

>>9174511
Calm down and take your meds, no one is saying that you have to listen to him. Just that there is more than one way to lifestyle and Takemoto is pretty Lolita 101, so being completely ignorant to his philosophy is a sign you're not that knowledgable of the fashion.

Also, I like how you're completely disregarding the fact he wrote Kamikaze Girls as if that's not one of the most iconic things for this fashion.

>>9174507
I'm not the OP of that thread, I just read it and commented on it a while ago, like I said in my post.

>>9174463
My comment wasn't serious, I wanted to remind OP that modest has different definitions.

>>9174482
I usually call it loli because then no one asks me about the book/film. goth loli. ama loli. why do people hate it so much?

>>9174500
I got this gif from an anon who was responding to a thread asking for Lolita porn. They did not use it to reply to anything involving what you're talking about.

>>9174536
... Are you being serious? Loli is the official term for hentai of little girls. Like... 10 and under.

>>9174536
Loli characters, Lolicon. That's basically what cones to mind instantly when I hear it and I cringe.

I don't know if this counts as a pet peeve, but the focus on always looking picture-perfect in lolita bothers me. People who call even slightly experimental outfits "ita" while simultaneously saying that traditional outfits are "boring". An outfit can be complete without wigs and false lashes and 100% perfectly matching elements. Just chill out a little; not everything needs to be nit-picked.

>>9174566
Are you me, anon? This shit drives me so crazy. I have a friend who did a flawless Cats Tea Party coord a couple Halloweens ago and wore matching burando cat ears with it. She looked super darling, but these salty bitches in our comm kept saying behind her back how disgustingly ita she was for wearing cat ears. Like, obviously cat ears are supreme ita bait, but it is possible to have a nice looking coord with them as long as you know what you're doing. Especially in the context of Halloween.

Then, on the flip side, I show up in the black/white Miranda JSK, wearing a wig, full makeup, and a lot of accessories, but my outfit was too boring to them. There is no winning.

When people who aren't even lolitas try to comment on how "toxic" our culture is, while taking part in horrible fandoms. Bitch, clean your own porch first.

>>9174648
Oh my god, this a million times. Especially coming from cosplayers. As someone who has been a lolita for a decade and was a cosplayer for eight years, I cannot stress to you how much less toxic lolita is as a community.

>>9174559
>>9174558
Oh, so it's because I don't watch anime I don't hate the term. When I hear lolita I think of the book/film and I only know about the existence of the term lolicon because of this board. So basically I hate the word lolita for the same reasons you hate the word loli.

>>9174705
Yeah, but the term "loli" is way worse to use if you're talking to anyone familiar with weeb culture because it has an even stronger sexual connotation.

Which brings me to one of my single biggest pet peeves... the name of the fashion. Good lord, how I wish the Japanese girls were more successful in changing it to Alice-kei during the old school days. Now it's too late, a name change will never happen.

Steven Universe cosplayers
It always looks so bad that it's cringy, and the fandom is more autistic than Homestuck at this point
I hate how normalized it's become here

>>9174497
I'm kind of chubby but am flat chested. Empire/high waist dresses don't make me look pregnant at all.

Wearing long sleeves with ankle socks. I hate it. It makes no sense at all.

>>9174749
Even if they don't make you specifically look pregnant, you still have perhaps the most unflattering form to wear them with.

>>9174744
I'm so done with the SU fandom too, they're worse than Adventure Time.

>>9174566
>>9174613
Don't you know? Salty cgl anons will curl up and die if they're not able to complain about SOMETHING. You don't want to be responsible for their deaths, do you?

>>9174712
Am I the only one who reads/says those two things differently?

Like, "lolicon" loli is lah-lee and lolita loli is low-lee? Aren't they written differently in Japanese, as well? I mean they're the same word written in English but they're technically different words, sort of.

>>9174905
top kek

>>9174959
No I read/say it that way too.

>>9174959
No, both are pronounced "low lee". Lolicon is short for Lolita complex. That's part of why saying "loli" to describe the fashion should be avoided.

>>9174468
>it's frequency
>incorrect

...yet you can't even grammar.

anyway, there are different degrees of modesty regarding clothing. stop pretending like it *doesn't* apply to the amount of skin showing.

modesty is about the person; it is a virtue akin to humility, whereas it is the opposite of expressing vanity or being a braggart. lolita is perhaps *financially* immodest, but fashionably modest.

anyone demanding complete and total modesty, in both shape/body coverage and color, is a fundamentalist nutjob or a cultist.

>>9174558
Using loli as shorthand for lolita was pretty accepted when lj had its heyday. It's fallen out of acceptance now, I think because of tumblr freaking out about lolicon. I personally don't fault anyone for using the term, although I don't use it anymore personally, if only because it's fallen out of our vernacular.

>>9175026
It's because the LJ community was a lot smaller and exclusive to us. Whereas the nature of Tumblr means a much larger audience seeing everything, including outsiders.

>>9174467
Good more empire waists for me. They look great on me.

>>9174787
Thanks for the concern, anon, but you literally don't know how I'm actually shaped beyond being flat-chested. I'll stick with what I like.

>>9174467
>they look bad on everyone

Only if you're fat.

>>9175280
Or big boobed.

>>9174712
lucky I don't talk to weebs then

>>9175605
It's not just weebs, anon. It's anyone remotely familiar with the culture, which extends to a lot of normies. Plus, why would you want to call it that now that you know it straight up means hentai of children? It's literally the equivalent of calling th fashion "kiddie porn".

>>9174959
thats because of your american accent..
i'd say it as low-lee both times (australian accent), but less of a 'low' sound and more of a pure 'o' sound, if that makes sense

>>9174482
I only call a lolita a loli when she's being annoying and stuck up, cause I know it will trigger that person. In a normal case, I just refer a lolita as lolita.

>>9174648
Ughh this. My SIL is a huge SuperWhoLock fan and also into steampunk. A few months ago she shared a flasco blog coordinate featuring a Boz Roland jacket as a "dream steampunk costume", and I (regrettably) told her what brand it was and where to find more pictures of it. She then joined our local lolita sales comm and posted a WTB for the Boz Roland jacket in euro size 46/48, preferably for less than €100. When people responded that that's impossible she flounced and now tells everyone in her SWL/steampunk/cosplay fandoms how horribly mean and toxic the lolita community is and how she can't understand why I'm still part of it.

FFS lady you're part of fandoms that send death threats to the wives of their favourite male actors and have full blown forum wars over which fictional character should fuck who and you're calling a community toxic for telling you a piece of clothing doesn't exist in your size? And she's 36 years old.

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I know this is a common peeve but I really despise the sexual connotations of the word Lolita. I hate that I had to turn NSFW off on my tumblr to be able to search for lolita fashion tags, which means I have to deal with seeing porn in addition to pretty dresses. I hate that normies think we're pedophile-pandering sex dolls because of a common misunderstanding of the name. I hate that the Nabokov Lolita fetish is even a thing, that people would read this book and think "yes, this is something that turns me on and I'm going to emulate it". If it weren't for these disgusting degenerates then we would only have to distinguish between our frilly clothes and a piece of literary fiction which would be so much easier (no one confuses goth fashion with a style of architecture), but no, fetishists just have to blur the line. This shit makes me so angry.

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not really into cosplay that much but, people who do the bare minimum, wear a bikini and call it "sexy cosplay"

it's obvious attention whore but forreal, im tired of seeing "BEST COSPLAYS OF 20xx" and it's some dumb bitch in a red and blue bikini and a 10 dollar toy shield, calling it "sexy captain america cosplay"

the cosplay reddit is full of that shit


also, people who cosplay of characters because it's easy mode but they dont know anything about the character. (ie black canary, L, any character who just wears a suit)

>>9175664
Honestly, this. I genuinely like the name Lolita, it's really cute but the misguided connotations repulse me. Makes me feel really bad for people with it as their given name, imagine the shit they have to put up with.

>>9174648
Similar to this, new lolitas who find out that our community is toxic as fuck, start to be even more bitchy and salty than the regulars, because I guess they feel its expected and allowed.

>>9175705
omg this. If one more guy friend sends me a link to an "awesome" female cosplayer and its just some chick in bikinis and different animal ears I am going to scream!!

>>9174482
We've called it loli since 2007, only newfags get assblasted when someone says "loli"

When a draw request thread is made and people start referring to it as fanart.

No I am not drawing fanart of you and I don't care that you are sharing it on your "efamous" social media. I am responding to your request and have no real desire nor obligation to draw your nasty ass face.

>>9174411

Yes, let us ignore all other uses and definitions of the term :/

>>9174536

I used to use that term too.
Then someone informed of it's meaning for little girl pedo hentai.

You have been informed. Thoroughly.
Don't say it again.

>>9174536

Have you not been paying attention? It means underage female porn. This is an unacceptable thing without fashion involved. Calling Lolitas "lolis" is worse than having to explain the difference from Nabokov's novel.
Dude, srsly. Get with it.

>>9175743
That population of bitchy new girls seem to make up the majority of gulls these days.

>when people don't know that the term "egl" refers to all lolita because of how lolita was founded.
>people who shit on moitie but then wear cakes on their head
>people who wear crosses or bible quotes but then talk about how much they hate religion
>Ap adding crosses to everything for edge-factor
>people who have to loudly correct normies that they're not wearing a costume instead of just saying "thanks" so they go away faster.
>special snowflake lolitas that somehow think they're holier than thou for owning rare pieces
>special snowflake lolitas who claim to dry clean every dress they own after wearing it once for 30 minutes and that if you dont do this you can't afford the fashion
>overrated chocolate prints
>not having a gothic circus print

I have many more.

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It always annoys me when people wear rosaries around their necks in coords. I'm not Catholic, but my mother is very Catholic and brought me to mass with her every Sunday for 18 years, so I'm still somewhat attached to the faith. Rosaries are not fashion accessories, they're tools used in prayer and are usually held in the hands and not worn around the neck.

I like rosary-style y-necklaces, and I have no issue with people wearing them, but it's pretty easy to distinguish a y-necklace from an actual rosary (which has a specific configuration of beads corresponding to different prayers).

>>9176044
Autism: The Post.

>>9175624
It reminds me of when a friend was trying to describe a martial art his cousin did, wasn't sure what it was called, and pronounced whatever he was trying to say the same as shotacon
I was like please stop but he thought I was just being nitpicky

>all this hate for term loli
You know it's lolicon that's the porno term right? It's like "kid fucker" vs "kid". The loli part can be the abbreviation of lolicon, but it's also a valid abbreviation of lolita (eg. gosurori/gothloli which is gothic lolita). Same goes for shota. Sure if you associate more with an environment that associates a certain abbreviation with a certain word, you'll immediately think of that connotation first, but people who come from a different place might not jump to the same conclusion.

>>9176044
>people who have to loudly correct normies that they're not wearing a costume instead of just saying "thanks" so they go away faster.

holy shit this. I hate when people get super offended when normies say "nice costume" or "nice cosplay."

>>9176887
Loli specifically refers to little girl characters meant for men to romantically desire. Google it, anon. There are plenty of sources besides us confirming it.

>>9174558
I assume that they use the term when talking to normies that don't ask about the book.

>>9174712
Never say never, anon. Everyone dismisses a possible name change because of how often it's brought up and shot down. If enough people who dislike the name got together and raised their voices, it could make an impact on the western community.
>inb4 western community too big to get word around
>inb4 no one can agree on an alternative so why bother
Has anyone ever actually gotten together to seriously discuss a new name in the past?

>>9175624
Normies associate lolita with pedophiles, and that's because of a world famous book and film. If you think the general person knows the term lolicon you have too many geeks around you or you live in an especially weeby country. No one around me has ever associated goth loli with lolicon and I only know about the term because of this board.

>>9176029
>>9176032
>>9176927
But goth loli does not mean little girl porn. It's the most common way to call the fashion in Japan and that's, surprise, also the same country the term lolicon is from. Some even use gosuloli as an umbrella term for lolita as a whole

>>9176863
I'm Catholic and I wear rosaries

>>9177122
That still doesn't mean it's a fashion accessory.

>>9176878
I guess a few of these really hit too close to home then, huh anon?

>>9174482
Same anon, it instantly becomes an ageplay thing if you say loli.

>>9177326
It's like you live in a different universe where nabokov doesn't exist

>>9176888
Had a moment when a lolita that I didn't know too well and I went to a shop together away from the group. The shop workers were genuinely asking questions and weren't being rude at all and this lolita was so rude to them. Saying things like "you couldn't afford this anyways" and just talking down to them in general. I was so embarassed and went back to apologize later.

>>9177327
The title of the book ain't "Loli" mate

>>9177379
Oh my god

>>9177122
>I'm Catholic and I wear rosaries

You're doing it wrong

>>9177409
Nope. They are commonly worn in my Church. It's disrespectful to wear it only for aesthetic but in that case crosses and jetj's print of mary and jesus should bother you at least as much.

>>9174536
>ama loli
Confirmed ita.

>>9174705
Just spend 10 minutes in /a/ and you will see how lolitas don't want to be called lolis.

>>9177501
I'm going to call myself and others loli's from now on just to annoy the weebs in my comm

>>9175664
>mfw I know a girl with lolita as her first name

>>9177418
I wear rosaries with my Gothic coords just for aesthetic purposes. I fully intend to disrespect the religion. Am I a first world edgelord yet? Kek

>>9177504
You won't annoy the weebs, you'll just paint lolitas in a sexual light.

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>>9177511
I wear rosaries and other symbols because I was raised Independent Fundamental Baptist and almost everything imaginable was evil. Since I got free of that cultish atmosphere, I have sort of compulsively been acquiring harmless and beautiful things that used to be forbidden to me.

I don't mean to disrespect Catholicism or other religions but I am definitely rebelling against the insanity I was raised with.

I want to wear pic related with a rosary, ouija board pin, pentagram bag, and a Harry Potter hat, while playing Pokemon Go. Take that, Pastor Morris!

>>9177530
But only weebs think about paedophilia more when they hear loli than when they hear lolita

>>9177539
You're fine. As a Catholic myself I honestly get a giggle about people being offended. Catholic aesthetic has been around for ages. If it shakes one up, then they best be getting up in arms over everything else too like Christmas.

>>9177418
They aren't necklaces. As a Catholic you ought to know better. Idrgaf about edgelord non-Catholics trying to be offensive, but if you're actually a practicing Catholic, you ought to know and understand the reasoning behind different practices. You're the one bound by tradition.

>>9177557
This
Normal, decent people have never heard of lolicon pornography

>>9177504
It would annoy me but mostly because retards in my community always pronounce it as "lolly" and normies think it's hilarious to start singing that Wizard of Oz midget song at us.
>this has happened multiple times
>kill me now

>>9177710
>They are commonly worn in my Church

>>9177270
Not that anon but the entire post was pretty cringy.

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Pet peeve. When someone drags out drama in the community because they want asspats. Especially when SJW leaning wanting the pity points. All it does is rile people up, but if you call them on it's suddenly 'oppressing them'

>>9177767
>Your Church is doing it wrong

>>9177911
whoa there Martin Luther

mind your own business before you cause another schism

>>9176888
Agree. There's someone in my comm who has to go into lecture mode every time a normie asks and will talk to them for like 10 minutes when it wasn't necessary at all.

>>9174411
gaaaah same here! I hate the term modest with lolita. It is, first, incorrect, and second, makes it sound like I, as a wearer of lolita, have some moral reason to wear it. I don't. I just like frills.

>>9176037
That seriously explains the whole "these two shades are just slightly off so its ita" and the regular lolita coords being called casual or boring mentality these days. I find that its usually the girls who have been into the fashion for a long time and hang out with their own groups are usually more chill about that stuff and aren't afraid to take more risks. They also Dont usually need to constantly post coords online for validation.>>9176044

>>9176044
>not having a Gothic circus print

I just realized how bad I need this...

>>9181626
Wasn't there a skeleton carousel print done by an indie brand? Rouge Aerie possibly?

>>9181570
Oh god I used to be like that when I got asked about it the first ten times. Cringe. Thankfully I got sick of it and just say "its just a fashion statement" these days and its enough. Eventually they will get tired too.

>>9178237
Not that original poster, but Catholic churches don't normally do their own thing like I see happen with so many Christian churches. I don't understand how just your chruch is okay with it, and any Priest, Bishop, Archbishop, etc. that visits condones it. I was raised Catholic and went to a Catholic school for 9 years, and in that time period we had a lot of priests and bishops visit from other diocese. I would think if they saw people wearing roasries, they would say something. (note I'm American)

And I'm not attacking you, I'm just genuinely curious why your church allows that. Where do you live? Is the Catholic church not so established there to allow for Diocese and visits from foreign priests or bishops? Or does the bishop of your diocese not consider that offensive?

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My new pet peeve is whenever gulls get overly defensive when a coord is labeled as casual lolita. Listen, I'm also frustrated with the current attitudes that dismiss cute regular coords in favor of ott messes, but it seems like some are taking the term casual as an insult.
I remember whoever posted pic related to the CoF thread got jumped on for calling it casual. Outfits can look good and be considered casual at the same time.

>>9181644
That's a reaction to the pressure to be OTT all the time in some comm's

>>9176044

I think the bible is pretty good literature but I think organized religion is misguided. Sorry your religiousness gets triggered by that.

>>9177539
Sorry to be that asshole, but could someone tell me the name of the dress in that photo? Thank you.

>>9181678
Magic Amulet, I believe. It's one of AP's upcoming releases.

>>9175743
I am acruelly afraid to introduce myself to my comm because of this actually.

>>9181630
Yeah it was Rouge Aerie. Wish a re-release would happen. I loved that print.

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>>9181783
Dropped pic. There were several colorways though.

>>9175743
I feel like lately I've seen a lot of weird elitism in newbies. It looks like they've seen elitism in the community so they try to copy it, but they don't really know enough to know what to be elitist about. Like they obsess over the idea of "brand" without really knowing what's good and only refer to their dresses (or like...the one dress they own) as "brand" and never just call them dresses. I get calling brand the word "brand" in a context that requires you to differentiate it from other dresses, but it's so alien to hear it outside that context.
I do like seeing these girls get all snooty about taobao or indie shops only instantly backpedal at the speed of light when known good lolitas praise a taobao shop or indie release. Or when they do a breakdown of their babby's first coord and list something you fucking know is bodyline as "offbrand" or just say it's from LM. Bruh we all know where it came from.

>>9181785
on the same note as this, I'm new to lolita and I want to start off with cheaper clothing (indie/taobao/bodyline) for my first few things (since I might decide it's just not for me). i feel like ill be immediately labelled as an ita/poorfag/shit lolita for only having offbrand, even if it's only for the beginning of my wardrobe.

>>9182226
Well, it's a good idea to start out with brand so you can learn what's good and what's not, anyone who gives you shit for starting out with offbrand (as long as it's good) is just a salty, elitist bitch. dwai.

>>9174959
'lolicon' is short for 'lolita complex' but it tends to always be spelled 'lolicon'. 'Lolita' is the fashion. Lolita is a borrowed word from English.

Interestingly, Lolita is the diminutive form of Dolores. It was perhaps a good choice of name for a book as the name actually means, 'Suffering'.

In the 1990 census, 'Lolita' was the 969th most popular female name, not sure if that had something to do with the naming.

I also kind of want to mention that overseas it'd be called 'rorita' to hear it spoken. They switch the 'l' over for an 'r' sound.

They don't say 'lolita' overseas.

People that shit all over femininity in spaces usually assumed to be male, and shit all over quality of craftsmanship because they can't wrap their mind around a color or motif existing in the same context. Using big words makes it sound more SJW than it really is, but I just got done working a costume club booth over the weekend at a local con and I almost did a Dukes of Hazzard slide over the table to slap a bitch when some woman started bitching at her husband about how the paint scheme on my armor (it was on display) was ugly because it was pink/ivory/gold, it looked like shit, and how "if she wanted to be a warrior she would have a badass paint job like that one" while pointing at another woman's helmet. Except for the colors and amount of weathering our helmets were exactly the same. My jigglies have never been so puffled in my life.

>>9182273
Where is 'overseas'?

>>9181644
I agree but at the same time I'm guilty of this myself when posting coords to my own comm. Girls here seem to think that "proper lolita" needs to be very heavily accessorised and hair (=wig) as big as your petticoat. If I don't feel like being told to add two necklaces to my already busy blouse neckline I use the casual coord cop out.

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The stupid "that's not gothic lolita" meme that makes it pretty much impossible to have a gothic thread. Sometimes I see things labelled as gothic lolita that I disagree with too, but it's mostly about perception and intent at that point and there's no need to start a big fuss over it. It's like "the dress" meme argument; some see blue and gold, some see gothic or sweet or whatever else the fuck. It's so ridiculous, it's just like the western goth community and the stupid "you're not a real goth" shit. Keep your mouth shut and go be a twu gosurori if you feel that way and stop ruining every single fucking thread with your opinions.

>>9182273
you...are just unfortunate. I don't know what else to say to this poor contribution to the discussion.

anyway, loli is just no good. for added proof, I just tried to find a particular image for the KYM entry for the Step 1: x...Step 2: ???...Step 3: PROFIT!! meme that trolled me back in 2012.
pretty much it instructed the poor schmuck (myself at the time) to go to some site, then search 'loli'...

well...the profit was getting a horrifying message that I had input a forbidden search term related to child pornography and my IP address was henceforth logged. fucking. idiot.
luckily, I guess that image was purged.

so pronunciation and technicalities aside, if you call someone a loli don't be upset if they get uncomfortable. that word really does signify a sexualized prepubescent female. it's still used as a popular search term on weeby porn sites like sankakucom.

let's just stop kidding ourselves and stay away from using loli as a noun to refer to lolitas...unless used for making clever portmanteau.

>>9182339
In my head the 'not gothic', 'legwear', and 'meta-hating' anons are all the same person. I suspect it's the same tired old troll cgl has had for a while, but maybe I'm just paranoid at this point.

>>9182448
But lolita means child porn in my country.. What to do

>>9181644
Change "casual" to "understated".

When people part their wigs down the middle. Side part I can understand, but straight down the center? Are you high?!

>>9185693
IDK, some styles look better parted down the middle. Anything with blunt/straight across bangs always looks weird with a side part to me...

pet peeve: how much harder it seems to be to find gothic for sale cheap secondhand. Everyone sells off sweet but gothic lolitas always seem to be in it for the longhaul. fml because most of my favorite prints are old.

>>9181665
I don't really care if you don't support my religion, but if you wear bible quotes or whatever while loudly proclaiming how edgy and tryhard you are for hating religion then it's pretty cringey. I had a girl in front of me wearing a bible quote on her dress talk about how all Christians are evil Nazis while not knowing I'm christian. I've never felt so much secondhand embarrassment. It's not hard to just respect or have no opinion on something if you're going to wear it as a fashion statement.

>>9185725

That's kind of a weird disconnect. You'd think if someone hates Christians that much they wouldn't want to touch bible verses. I don't like you guys that much either (catholic school does that to you) but I'm not gonna shit talk organized religion at a meet. Too much potential for a shitstorm and bullshit drama. Why wear a dress covered in scripture from a book followed by people you claim to hate?

Now you're making me want a gold-on-white print of flowers and animals made out of verses of the Koran. Add some Moorish architecture and that could be some good shit.

>>9185772
Yeah most Christian are dicks ngl. I don't blame people for not liking my religion, just be reasonable about it.

>>9174458
anon if you're gonna do that, come up with a better comeback

>>9181643
oh hey i forgot i posted in this thread.

i wasn't the anon who wears rosaries, was just having a bant w/the dogmatic anon.

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>>9185703
I think a middle part looks fine with natural hair. Especially in classic. Louvrianne, for example, looks great and would even without the Rapunzel length.
I'm talking about when obvious wigs are made more obvious by parting the bangs down the middle. It's kind of jarring and throws off the coord.

>>9185840

>most people are dicks

Ftfy.

In all seriousness though I feel bad for decent chill Christians like you dealing with people who are massive hypocrites, overzealous dogmatics, or both.

It bothers me infinitely when a girl get's away with a shitty cosplay of a character because she has big tits.

>>9186221
I love outrageously long hair in lolita.

>>9186221
Urgh is that hair real? Hate hair longer than boob length in general, it's just gross to me. Imagine finding a hair that long in your food.

Under styled is also my pet peeve in lolita, there needs to be some bounce and volume for me to feel it looks right.

But I totally understand it if people don't agree with me it's just a personal thing, long hair just grosses me out.

My Pet peeve is when you are shopping on LM and there's no sizings of the item. And when you go on lolibrary and there's 2 different sizes for the item.

If the sellers could spend about 2-3 minutes with a tape measure and even flat measure it and approximated it at least that'll be more easier as the buyers who have to go and search for the fuckers.

Whenever I see an "urgent" sale, but the items are still overpriced.

>>9175290
>implying most fatties don't try to self-identify as big boobed first

>>9189920
I hate when people put FINAL REDUCTION like that in all caps in their DS title and keep relisting it like that. Declaring that you refuse to sell for a better price isn't going to attract any more buyers.

>>9174411
When someone calls a blouse a shirt.

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>>9174536
Japs use "loli" as short for lolita too though. "Gosurori" has always been a thing.

Loli by itself usually just means anime little girls anyway, which you might still not want to be associated with, but it's not automatically porn either.

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>white girl with a japanese name on facebook

You know those cheap carton box """joke""" armors? Yea fuck those. I dont understand how some people think it is still funny to wear one of those in the current year. Theyre almost as annoying as all the shitty deadpools

>>9182226
Most people start out with offbrand and many established lolitas wear offbrand. Don't worry too much about it, just do your research and make sure you buy something decent.

>>9192915
Shitty Deadpools are Taco Bell, desu. They're objectively horrible but you love them all the same.

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All the women in my comm who are studying to be ~fashion designers~ yet have zero creativity and just copy Angelic Pretty and outfits from the latest magical girl anime. I don't mind this so much when it's coming from a 16-year-old but several of them are in their late twenties/early thirties and still doing this shit. At a recent meetup one of them was proudly showing off her gravity-defying My Little Pony lolita gijinka to a few of us. She’s in some shitty ‘fashion design’ school that’s apparently happy to take her money but doesn’t bother to teach her anything that will be of use to her in the fashion world, or even for running a small business.
You’re not going to be the next big lolita designer. You’re not going to be internet famous for having a successful indie brand, especially if you can’t even fucking sew. No, your badly drawn anime crossover Spoonflower prints will not be enough to get people to buy your badly constructed shit. You’re not going to get Rufflecon to invite you as a special guest next to Maki and Asuka. Stop. Also stop wearing replicas when you’re trying to be an original designer for fuck’s sake and get some self awareness.

>>9189679
Ha, good luck browsing japanese auction sites then. At least you can ask lacemaret sellers. But that AP cutsew or unknown Jane Marple dress? Pure gambling.

>>9175664
To be fair, goths do get confused for fetishists, satanists or assumed to be into BDSM a fair bit, although in their case the line is blurred because a not insignificant proportion of goths are actually kinky or pagan, whereas virtually no lolitas are openly ageplayers.

>>9177557
Trust me, it's not just weebs. Most people under the age of 30 who use the Internet know loli as porn, seriously.

>>9175981
Ugh, I have a couple of friends-of-friends that are super into fapping to League cosplayers that do this a lot and it freaks me the fuck out.

>>9194569
>it freaks me out that men are attracted to women
Okay.

>>9194558
No

>>9194595
Reading comprehension, pls. It freaks me out that guys I barely know think it's appropriate to share their wank material publicly, not that they enjoy wanking hot girls.