OTT Gothic Lolita

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>>9096268

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Maybe not strictly Lolita but looks cool

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>>9096274

>>9096274
I love it! And that bag is just to die for. I wonder if it's handmade

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>>9096277

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>>9096280
Not sure if this one is OTT enough but I'll share anyway

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>>9096280

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>>9096290

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>>9096307

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>>9096312

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>>9096313

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>>9096316

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>>9096328

>>9096274
>>9096280
>>9096312
Love her style so fucking much.

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>>9096333
End of dump for now

>>9096274
Fuuck I want to know how to make that giant lace collar

>>9096277
This is so tacky and horrid

>>9096313
Most of her coords are just classic in black. This one is especially blatantly so.

>>9096333
Classic.

>>9096337
Classic.

>>9096374

I'm sorry but >>9096313 is not classic.

>>9096374
Anon, are you sure you know wtf you're talking about?

>>9096374
Yes because the substyles can have absolutely no crossover whatsoever. Everything must be rigidly one style or the other.
Why don't you actually contribute something you think is gothic enough instead of whining.

>>9096394
It is classic af. You're blinded by the fact that it's black. It's very period inspired, the cut and materials and accessories all scream classic. Sheesh.

>>9096409
No shit, which is why I didn't comment on the ones that were a bit of a mix.

If it's really that hard for you newbies, do the colour trick. Aka imagine it in white and ask yourself if it still looks gothic.

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>>9096374
please keep your opinion to yourself. One gothic lolita thread already went to shit this week because of this garbage "no one is twu goff" bullshit

>>9096394
>>9096408
>>9096409
Black and a veil does not make something gothic. How fucking dumb are you? Judging by the other gothic thread this weekend and the obvious falling for bait all the time, very.

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Here we go again.

>>9096452
Already been posted. See >>9096280.

>>9096454
Not that anon, but I'd rather have the repost-- it's not for ants.

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>>9096433
>complains about newbies but is a newfag herself
>doesn't know goth can still be done in colors other than black, aka white/offwhite
Summer is officially here it seems

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>>9096289
>Oldschool OTT

>>9096433
Are you under the impression that gothic cannot be historical? Are you also unfamiliar with regular western goth?

>>9096452
What would you call that feather thing? A bustle? A half-overskirt? Did she make it?

Either way I adore this coord and would love to have one of those feather things. It looks stunning to me.

>>9096433
Classic rarely ever uses the amount of layering, embroidery, or lace in this coord, not to mention that elements derived from historical religious and/or mourning clothing is a gothic hallmark.

>>9096554
A feather overskirt, I guess

>>9096342
It's from Vide Noire, they're pretty expensive (for good reason too, from what I can tell in the shops photos it'd be really difficult to replicate)

>>9096548
>or romantic goth for that matter

>>9096449
Lol, you didn't even try

>>9096539
You are an idiot. Of course gothic can be white. The point was that people think that because something is black it is more likely to be gothic. So if you imagine a coord that is questionable in another colour, they won't be as blinded by it. You sure are dumb.

>>9096548
Western goth is completely different from gothic lolita. Of course there are some historical inspirations, but classic is much more inspired by period styles than gothic or classic.

>>9096557
What. Gothic is all about clean cuts and lines while classic uses lots more layering. Religious symbolism is also very common in classic.

It's really not that hard, guys.

>>9096557
>Classic rarely ever uses the amount of layering, embroidery, or lace in this coord

...have you ever seen a classic coord?

Also, half of JetJ's shtick is historical theme, as was older VM. Why is everyone so lazily stubborn?

>>9096342
It's based on a wired Elizabethan standing ruff and there are historical directions if you search online. Time of Elizabeth I of England.

My friend made one, though smaller, as a weekend project for a history re-enactment pageant.

>>9097510
I think it's just this one retard

>>9096278
taobao and ebay from a few years back

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>>9097544
Shit anon. I just found this bag on Taobao and it's fucking expensive

>>9096278
afaik Marie Dauphine does taxidermy, which explains the rest of her accessories. That skull, though...

>>9096374
You are retarded. Are you the same idiot that keeps calling a ton of obviously Gothic coords sweet?

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>>9097506
>>9097508
>>9097510
The samefagging is real. Also less arguing more pictures.

>>9097667
This is beautiful

>>9097603
>>9097667
Do some research and stop being so lazy. I'm guessing you think that >>9096449 is gothic? You're embarrassing yourself.

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>>9098442
Calm down, I'm not even disagreeing with you. You're just going to derail this thread like >>9096436 said. Why are you so invested in this?

>>9098442
WOW calm down snowflake chan.

>>9098762
I think the snowflake chan is the one who thinks anything black is gothic

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>>9102687

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>>9102690

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>>9102693

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>>9102696
think this is Mana cosplay but eh

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>>9102701

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>>9102704

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>>9102706

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>>9102708

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>>9102712

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>>9102713
sorry for antpic

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>>9102718

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>>9102723

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>>9102724
more antpic

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>>9102726

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>>9102733

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>>9102734

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>>9102737

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>>9102739

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>>9102748

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>>9102750

>>9097569
It's kreepsville so you can find it stateside too! (which is also why it's expensive)

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>>9102751

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>>9103207

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>>9103211

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>>9103215
not sure about this one

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>>9103224

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>>9103227

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>>9103237

>>9102687
Red looks so good on her skintone

>>9102726
This is not goth.
This is pirate Lolita.

Stay on topic, please.

>>9102687
Tacky guro needs to be stopped.

>>9102708
...also not goth. Definitely dark classic.

>>9104422
>Skulls and cross motifs
>Dark classic

... Suuuuuure, anon.

>>9104433
"Not gothic" anon is at it again ahahaha

>>9104433
Read the thread.

Also, while it is classic, stop saying dark classic pls.

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>>9103242

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>>9104654

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>>9104656

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>>9104657

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>>9104658

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>>9104659

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>>9104660

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>>9104662

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>>9104663

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>>9104664

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>>9104665

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>>9104666

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>>9104667

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>>9104670

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>>9104675
end dump

hopefully avoided hybrids this time

>>9102704
Why does her face look so retarded

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>>9104676
found more

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>>9105225

>>9105225
Heck yeah! Bless you for bringing us more anon

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>>9105228
the fucking lace on this dress

>>9105231
Mana: "time to wear ALL THE LACE!"

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>>9105231
>inb4 "it's a sweet dress"

>>9105229
yw anon

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>>9105233
add a blouse or bolero to this one

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>>9105237

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>>9105242

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>>9105243
when in doubt, add feathers

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>>9105245

>>9104420
Agreed. Good thing that coord isn't an example of tacky guro.

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>>9105247

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>>9105252

>>9105216
All dat shoop
Gotta make sure everyone knows she's a legit moderu

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>>9105254

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>>9105259

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>>9105261

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>>9105268
closeup

can definitely feel the OTT classic influence here

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>>9105271
compared to this NP coord, which is more solidly EGL

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>>9105272

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>>9105299

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>>9105391

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>>9105426
on the left
and done dumping again

>>9098765
It's pretty obvious you're the snowflake chan.
If it's black, I'm going to wear it as a gothic coord. If me calling it gothic bothers your special snowflake ass, then all the better. I will feast on your salt.
And you don't know shit about goth. Poseur.

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>>9105434
but wait, there's more

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>>9106184

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>>9106192
left

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>>9106222

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>>9106243
keking at this one, but

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>>9106254
the eye makeup is nice

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>>9106264

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>>9106312
closeup

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>>9106317
pic dropped

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>>9106319
left

and done

So much of this is classic

>>9109341
Contribute what you think is OTT gothic then or GTFO. I'm tired of people constantly complaining that inspiration threads don't post to their standards.

>>9109370
There's a difference between having high standards and expecting a gothic thread to be just that: gothic.

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>>9109388
There's also a difference between making a critique that contributes to the conversation and whiny bitching. Also as someone who actually wears classic, most of this is not classic.

>>9109399
You need to stop being so buttmad that you can't tell the difference between the three major styles and pick up a G&LB.

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>>9109411
> buttmad
Now you're just being bait material.

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i wish to see more gothic makeup in gothic coords, especially when going OTT. the dominant lolita aesthetic is very fresh-faced but let's dig deep to recover our gothic roots. it's what Mana-sama would want for us.

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>>9109688
more crazy hair

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>>9109692
take a page from shironuri artists, if the visual kei influence does not appeal to you.

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>>9109695

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>>9109702

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>>9109726

>>9109688
I love her makeup so much. I'm so glad she decided to make a youtube, I just wished she used it more.

>>9109760
Link? I see her pictures around, but I don't know who she is. I'd love to see her makeup tutorials if she has any.

>>9109760
Link please? I'd love to learn gothic make up like this.
Also, where would you draw the line in gothic OTT? What would be too much or when would it stop being Lolita?
I'm not talking about dress shape, blouse etc but accessories?

Same person as in last comment:
I've been classic Lolita for years now and getting into gothic, I've got many crazy ideas for it but I'd love to know your opinion where it would be too much.

>>9096277
are those babies or day of the dead skulls

>>9109760
Would love a link! Makeup tutorials are my favourite.

>>9110199
>>9109819
>>9109897

Noble of shadows

>>9110211
Bless you, anon!

>>9096333
ooooh, dress sauce? i'm a sucker for tea length dresses

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>>9115879

>>9109686
How is it bait when they legitimately can't tell the difference

>>9118680
The flapper look really doesn't work with a print like Divine Cross

After OTT classic dies, is OTT gothic going to be the next thing? I'd love for that to happen.

>>9121051
I'm crossing my fingers for an Oldschool comeback.

>>9096277
These are not bad ideas, just way too cheaply done and it shows.

>>9121051
Be the change you want to be, anon.

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>>9121051
>OTT gothic
>mfw

>>9121057
I predict OTT Gothic rising by this winter then a plainer, more simple old school wave right after as kind of a protest. But there is nothing stopping you from wearing old school now either. It is already enjoying some attention and it always looks good.

>>9096313
Oh I love this headpiece. Sauce or a link please?

>>9121218
Yeah I tend to think so too. Old schools becoming revived

>>9121057
OTT Old School.

>>9121220
Voodoodolly

>>9121469
How would that even work?

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>>9121831
this maybe ?

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>>9121853
left here

also Mana pics in this thread probably count

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>>9121855
capping thread with pic related. old school OTT gothic to the core.

>>9121853
Yeah that accurately describes it. I like it