The brand new larp thread after the previous one in autosage

>>9045620
Why are you Orange..

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>>9045624
high elves in the elder scrolls universe have olors like that.
Although in reality it was more of a yellow is but the guy who made that pic put some weird filters on it

>>9045435
Hmm, perky Freya nipples.
>>9045620
The spraytan makes it look like a New Jersey elve. Its better on the other pic though.

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>>9045632
Thalmor scum.

>>9045305
Yes

>>9045435
Square up sarasin.
Do it

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>>9045840
Forgot trip because its somehow important for my e-dick.

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>>9045842

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>>9045846

>>9045106
DR is using pronoun badges now too? Dear God, it's spreading. I can't believe this shit.

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>>9045849

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>>9045852
Wat

What...America what the fuck?
It's simple.

Does it have a moustache?
Yes - Its a man.
No - Its not a man.

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>>9045860

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>>9045867

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>>9045868

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>>9045885

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>>9045890

>>9045860
Pic related?

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>>9045909
There you are, expecting me to make any logic or sense.

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15thC is best C

>>9045860
>Does it have a moustache?
>Yes - Its a man.

Except for the "feminine facial hair" tumblr craze... Dwarves, man.

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>>9045952
All other Cs are not as good Cs.

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>>9045954

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>>9045957
Old pic, but some shameless self post 15thC swank.

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>>9045962

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>>9045963
>>9045963

>>9045962
That doesn't fit you.

>>9045971
Thats about right for Italian. It was fashionable to wear undersized clothes.

>>9045971
>>9045971
Yeah, It fits loads better now. I specifically bought it slightly undersized so to help get me losing faster.

>>9045989
Yes, but I am also fat.

>>9045860
B-But HLF doesn't have a moustache.
(Although I have no idea wether he's just shaving it or cannot grow one)

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>tfw this bragging, pompous ass in my local community is also pretty much the best fighter in it.

The pain is real.

>>9046125
What system? Legit skill or gaming the system?

There is always the obvious solution: Git Gud. Teach him humility.

>>9046140
Legit skill.
That's my plan. We practice here once or twice a week but for some reason I can't seem to improve...
If you have any tips/videos on how to git gud, that's blessed.

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Should I get them for $40? I think they look really neat, like something a fantasy rogue would wear in the midst of sneaking, backstabbing, and all other manner of roguish activities.

>>9046233
>We practice here once or twice a week but for some reason I can't seem to improve

Because that's maintenance levels of practice. You'll be able to maintain your efforts/improve very slowly, but nothing big.

>>9046325
I keep hearing women's boots make good larp shoes if you make the size adjustment. No-one has to know.

>>9046352
Are there any people who practice LARP or anything like it more than twice a week?

>>9046376
People who do real sports, that is, literally any competitive athlete out there. 5/6 days a week isn't uncommon at all.

I'm a bit conscious about inuring my hands, but I prefer the early medieval european look. Were there scale or lamellar gauntlets, or would I have to make do with padded cloth, mail and/or leather? Google's not giving me many results that aren't fantasy shit.

>>9045989
no. They didn't wear undersized clothes. If they wore tight clothes its because that was the style, not because they bought the wrong size.

>>9045991
Good. no excuses.

>>9046140
Don't ever say "git gud." Thats a toxic community which promotes meta over rules saftey and realism. its literally killing the game(s.) If you want to "git gud" go play dark souls. Keep it out of larps.

>>9046376
>>9046352

While practice is good, you get better by developing an understanding. If you want to preform better develop your own style and learn how it affects you and your opponents. Then practice that.

>>9045852
what is a pronoun bagde?

>>9046524
It's a badge that states what pronouns someone should use when talking to/about you. For instance, it reads "he/him/his" or "she/her/hers" if you're not mentally disabled.

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>>9046003
I'm shaving it totally off because I can't grow one.
Same with beard.
But I sleep with an axe or machate if anyone every would get the wrong idea.

>>9046406
>Don't ever say "git gud." Thats a toxic community which promotes meta over rules saftey and realism. its literally killing the game(s.) If you want to "git gud" go play dark souls. Keep it out of larps.
Ssssh! Do you hear the sound of "Git Gud"?

>>9046233
My videos and tips are useless as you still havent stated your system, and my tips and techs are likely to get you kicked out of most larps.

>>9046352
I'll agree, but it isn't just about skill practice: If he did conditioning as well, that helps.

>>9046376
Minimum 2 SCA group practices a week for me, three when possible. Pell work and footwork drills every day. Also cardio and weight training to try and get the weight off.

>>9046406
He is right though. Many guides to gentlemanly dressing suggest wearing undersized clothes. Its just like people squeezing into a pantsize down.

>Don't ever say "git gud."
Git Gud means practice more than the other guy. Is that toxic? No. Git Gud Fgt.

>>9046382
I'm sorry to say that in the Early Medieval period, any sort of armoured glove is fantasy.

The closest I can think of would be mailled mittens that appear in the last third of the 12thC, but these are attached to the sleeves of the hauberk as opposed to seperate gloves.

The standard re-enactor practice is to get some sturdy and unobtrusive leather gloves and oil them brown which balances protection without compromising historical accuracy too much.

We just hide them for photo shoots and be honest if asked by the public.

>>9046618
>My videos and tips are useless as you still havent stated your system, and my tips and techs are likely to get you kicked out of most larps.

You have my curiosity. Dickstabs?

>>9046681
it's more likely that a lot of US systems is lightest touch and that has it's own problems.
HEMA techniques are rarely good against ultralights if you aren't allowed to stab or apply force on the other guy and it's expected that weapons are act like lightsabers

>>9046406
>Don't ever say "git gud."
sounds like someone needs to git gud

>>9046618
System is HP based. You can hit anything other than palms, feet, groin, neck and head. All hits do 1 damage. Stabbing and 'cutting' is both allowed. Our rougher systems allow grabbing weapons' shaft and the wrist of the one who uses the weapon.
It's always interesting to know more if you have any techniques even if they don't work to my system

>>9046681
Nothing so inelegant. I am a huge fan of shield and weapon manipulation, IE, advancing and pressing to where they either are so horribly out of stance that they cannot recover or generate force, or even have their own weapon/shield pinned against themselves. Few people expect to have the haft of their weapon pressed against their chest, or some one kick the top of their shield into their face.

Another excellent technique is interposing: positioning a weapon, haft or shield edge so that when the enemy throws a blow, not only does the shot get intercepted, but they literally hit their own limb against the interposing object. I love when people try to throw a deep wrap shot on me, because the edge of my shield will be waiting for them to mash the inside of their elbow into at full force.

>>9046723
>System is HP based. You can hit anything other than palms, feet, groin, neck and head. All hits do 1 damage
I assume its touch then, and it doesn't matter where it lands. Problem is, your "best fighter" isn't a good fighter, he's just really good at your system. Anything other than "hit him faster than he hits you" is useless in HP based systems.

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>>9046728
>Nothing so inelegant.
>dickstabbings are inelegant
get the fuck out of here and never come back

>>9046723
get a polearm and always keep your distance.
Or learn to use a triangle step properly, under pressure.
Basically there isn't any magic technique to this, you just have to train to do stuff quickly and accurately.
We can tell you any kind of technique but if you can't pull it off then it doesn't worth shit

>>9046728
What does your system work like?
And it isn't lightest touch. I mean, you don't throw full swings or something, but you do have to put some force behind the strike.
And he can defend, dodge, strike etc rather well, so I'm not sure he can only hit fast

>>9046733
I didn't say NOT to dickstab, just that it is less elegant.

>>9046737
Angles are everything. Never enter engagement squared up.

>>9046756
>What does your system work like?

>Darkon/O.R.C.S.
Positive force, location based targeting, weapon type based damage/bypass. No head shots.

>Lost Stories and Dark Tales
With intent strikes, location based targeting, weapon type based damage/bypass. Headshots allowed

>SCA armoured baton combat
Full force "telling blow", IE, if it hurts with a stick, a real weapon would have ended you based on the honor system. Minor location and weapon typing. Head is a primary target.

>ACL/HMCI etc
Full force with goal of submission through injury, knock down or knockout using blunt steel weapons. No thrusts due to safety. Everything is a target.

>WMA/HEMA/Historic fencing
No real "scoring" system. Martial art focus of theory and practice. Mostly with intent, full targeting honor system.

>And it isn't lightest touch. I mean, you don't throw full swings or something, but you do have to put some force behind the strike.
Positive force.

>And he can defend, dodge, strike etc rather well, so I'm not sure he can only hit fast
He's not a better fighter, he's just more physically active based on game parameters.

>>9046789
SCA/ACL sounds like fun. Not sure we have anything like that around. How do you knockout/injure a person in armour? (Unless you're unarmoured and using steel weapons...?)

What would you consider a good fighter, then? By what parameters?

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>>9046813
In ACL, I find that mace, polearm and shield punches work best for knockouts.

I promise you, 90% that there is an SCA group near you. Where you roughly located?

Forgot my trip.

>>9046813
Also, to answer your other question, there is no inherent risk to a numbers game which in the end, is almost always in the favor of those with the biggest. Even foam fight games like Dag have an inherent method of artificial risk: there are no numbers to hid behind if your skill or luck runs out. You get hit, you're "dead"

>>9046823
I'm not from the U.S, so I doubt there's anything like that.

As for >>9046844
you meant 'one strike-one kill' sort of fight?

>>9046870
So? Thailand, Germany, Austrailia, Iraq.... Even the Antartic. Only deadspots are parts of eatern europe, the center of Africa and south America.

>>9046884
I live in Israel. A small country with an even smaller LARP comm, so I'm like 99% sure if there was something like SCA here I'd know. But if you know about one that I don't-Tell me, I'd love to join that.

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>>9046885
Dude, there is SCA in Israel, and your national HMB/ACL team is one of the highest ranked in the world.

>>9046885
There is an SCA group in Jerusalem. I'll get you contact info.

>>9046723
In my experience, effectiveness in a system with HP and effect calls (I assume you have those too, since American larps with HP almost always do) boils down to roughly the following:
25% physical fitness
25% combat skill (actually knowing how to use a weapon, footwork, techniques)
50% system mastery (putting points in the right places, knowing what's OP in your system, knowing when to use what kinds of skills)

The numbers shift depending on the specifics. A game with a ton of effect calls, especially easy access to multiple dodges/parries/whatever specific term they use, skews it away from fitness and combat skill and further toward system mastery, for example. At any rate, in the majority of cases, the most reliable way to become more effective in such a system will be to practice with experienced players and look at the skill list to figure out which ones will be most useful, and then practice with them a lot to you become accustomed to using them.

>>9046985
Personally, I set skill and fitness much higher.
System mastery is really important, and can make you tough to beat, but I've fought high level players and won by fitness and skill alone. Doesn't matter how much they swing for if they can't hit.
That being said, some systems invalidate this. Anything with heavy disarms or "weapon breaks" can be tricky to win. I'm decent at boffer fighting and that carries well. If you want to cheese it up, shield and spear is the way to go.

>>9046233

I'm not sure how much experience you have with weapon fighting, but two tips I always give to beginners are.

A) Don't strangle the weapon, a lose grip gives more speed to your quick, wrist based strikes and will ensure you don't tire out too fast.

B) Don't expect the first strike to land, always throw credible hits, but be planning your follow up straight away.
First get them to move their sword, you want them reacting to you not vice versa, then get their sword away from where you intend to strike, if they often leave their elbow extended after a parry, force them to parry as far away from that elbow as possible so they'll have a long way to travel to stop you, then strike. If you miss, then get them to open that avenue up again or find a better one.

Remember, no one ever won a sword fight by blocking, at one point or another you have to take the initiative if you want to win.

>>9046994
That's why I say the numbers shift based on the details, yeah. My personal game? I'd say it's closer to even all around, since it very much does allow a more skilled fighter to stand up to someone higher-leveled if they have the physical ability and training to actually pull it off.

This is just what I feel most US games sit at, since they tend to go for a more tabletop-y approach that uses abstractions to limit the amount of real-world capability you can use in game.

>>9046998
>but two tips I always give to beginners are.
the first thing I like to give to beginners is aim at the other guy, not at his weapon.
I mean if we talk about REALLY beginners.

>>9046899
>>9046906
Ohhh, in fact I think I know them if you're talking about Battle of the Nations. But don't they only do group fighting, no?

And unless you're talking about the Reenactment group (Who uses steel), I have no idea who the SCA group is. If you find anything like that, I'll be grateful.

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>>9047418
Battle of the Nations is only one of many HMB/ACL events. They also do counted blow duels.

The SCA does all sorts of various historic recreation, but is known for the baton combat and rapier fencing. Israel seems to be covered under the big catch-all that is the Drachenwald group. Try hitting them up on facebook and asking.

Otherwise, I did find a few pics of a small SCA group in Jerusalem who seem to be active in rapier fencing. https://www.techhouse.org/~dj/sca.html

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>>9047492
Can't help but wonder if that's their period costumes or they're just conservative jews.

Holy fuck thank you based gropey, if I get to do SCA it'll be so great. I'll contact them on FB thank you so much

>>9047509
drop me an email at screwloosecircus AT yahoo DOT com if you got questions

>>9046606
>This guy
>Not wearing scrubs

A missed oppertunity.

>>9046125
Unfortunately i know that feel too anon

>>9047762
go and make yourself better then. Or just don't fight fair

meanwhile, I'm surprised yet again how great lengths the US people go to make their games into a motherfucking hugbox
http://elsewherenightly.com/p/dystopia-risings-gender-pronoun-patches-promote-inclusiveness-in-our-hobby/

>>9047914
But Hungarian! Don't you know thats a toxic mindset?!

You need to git gud at empathy!

End/sarcasm

>>9048028
contrary to popular belief I'm pretty good at empathy. I just choose not to use it

So I recently purchased a Faloril II (Two Handed), by Calimacil. And while being decent sword with one of the most beautiful grip designs I've ever come across, unfortunately I suck with it.
Would love some tips for a 1.20 meters longsword (About 4 feet) with no crossguard, which balanced heavily towards the blade's end (Sort of like a Bokken/Falchion, I guess?)

>>9048313
tip number 1
train with it. A lot. Preferably against people who now at least a little about swordfight.

>>9048313
>Faloril II
>1.20 meters longsword
>No crossguard
>Tips
Return it and get something useful.

>>9048313
>Faloril II
43" Sword is not a fucking two-handed sword. Not having a crossguard means you're going to be open to hand hits. Which might matter depending on your system.

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>>9048313
I made my little brother good at larp sword fighting by going all out on him for a whole summer (had no job so I just went out to him at the family cottage for 6 weeks). It made him quite decent on defense.

After that he started training with his friends at a local club house he had the fortunate luck to get to borrow while I was at work.

I'd say he is one level above me today.

>>9048395
it's two handed by calimacil standards.
Which means it's one category shorter than real studd

>>9048395
Hand hits don't count on most of our local systems (Only time we target hands and fingers are in dagger fighting, and that's more of a between friends thing rather than in an actual LARP)

>>9046618
Lets see those guides then fatty.

>>9048519
If you're too retarded to look up historic fighting manuals, then I see no reason to help a cheeky cunt like you.

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>>9047946
Dear God, it's true.

>Author shuts down conversation as soon as somebody raises a point he disagrees with

>>9048577
Not that anon. So basically all your techniques are from fighting manuals? Do you have any you recommend?

Also, it's the Israeli guy-I've checked and it seems like the SCA group disbanded. Might form one of my own if that's even a doable thing.

>>9048609
Vast majority. I.33 sword and buckler is absolutely godly in most foam fighting systems, for example.

>>9048609
>it seems like the SCA group disbanded.
Did you get confirmation on this? Maybe you can see about getting some interested people.

I am not joking when I say I would literally donate a starter helmet to your group, should you need it.

>>9045963
hi,
i need to saw some pants like those 2 guys are wearing

sadly the guy who should help me dropped me. I have the wollcloth and cut out my patterns but now I don't know what to do next

are there any tutorials how to make pants like these ?

>>9049182
http://www.gjar-po.sk/~kassayova9c/the%20medieval%20tailor's%20assistant.pdf

look for the joined hose part

>>9049187
>joined hose
thank you very much

>>9047184

That too is bloody good advice, I'm training some actors in stage fighting atm and they keep striking at each other's swords.

>>9049259
had to train far too many people who barely know which part of the sword to grab. You have to teach them the REALLY basics, how to hold it, how to stand, how to step, which part of it should strike the other guy. These seem to be funny or way to basic but honestly, I don't expect anyone to know it if they never did any swordfighting, or did it only at larps

>>9048626
Confirmed. Met a Jerusalmic friend today who said he actually knew one of the former group members.

And wow man, that's very appreciated. Although I believe what I would need the most (beside other people who are interested) is info-Rules, how do things work, what weapons to use etc.

>>9048577
No no, you insituated there was a manual on it. You can't provide proof even though the burden lays on you.

quit making up bullshit in an attempt to look cool. fucking idiot. either back your shit up or don't lie.

>>9049371
It took me minutes to find medieval treatises, books about these treatises and reviews about said books. Apparently you actually were too retarded to look them up.

>>9049404
that's true but most of those techniques won't work on larps, partly because of the weapons and partly because of the restrictions of what you are allowed to do to the other guys on larps

>>9049416
Of course, don't think a system was mentioned in the comment chain though.

>>9049404
Not my job to look it up, if you make a claim, it is your responsibility to back it with evidence. Apparently you are too retarded to know what the burden of proof is though. it took me minutes to find it.

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Im looking at the rules for my local larp and i dont understand how this whole armormaking skill works. In fact half of this book makes no sense. You have to learn an armor skill to wear armor and if you want heavy armor you need to have the light armor skill.

>>9049513
What do you think this is, your schools debate team? I was pointing out that if you weren't such an arse in need of spoonfeeding and actually looked it up yourself, like Gropey suggested, you'd find the information right away.

>>9049576
Upload or link it? Even if we can't make any sense of it it might atleast be amusing reading.

>>9049576
Its DnD. Most creators just want to make DnD but live action. They take things that make no sense and incorporate them because thats how DnD does it.

>>9049584
Its Dying kingdoms. I cant link it, im on my phone. Its understandable but just dumb. 25 pound bows and other nonsense

>>9049597
25-30 pound draw is pretty standard, at least here in America. Getting sued/safety is numba 1 priority

>>9049597
>>9049612
25 pound draw is the Dutch norm too. Then again, most Dutch larps have shitty American-like rules.

>>9049612
My 11 year old sister used a 25lb bow cmon. Plus they have some weird system with armies and naval units. Plus they said no wooden staffs incase somebody accidentally gets whacked

>>9049590
>>9049597
Ah yeah, it's straight up pnp bullshit.

>>9049612
It's standard here in Sweden aswell. It might look and feel a bit silly but it's a safety ruling I agree with.

>>9049629
Well if you cant control the rapefugees you can at least make your larps safe

This is the entry for the Stealth skill. It fucking hurts to read.

"You can vanish into the shadows.
Cross your arms over your head and hold
your special Stealth kerchief to indicate that
you are hidden. You can only vanish while
you are up against an object at least as large
as you (such as a boulder, large tree, or a
wall) and in shadow or complete darkness.
You cannot vanish while anyone is watching
you; anyone who sees you attempt to use
stealth may call out “I see you” if they see
you vanish, and your attempt then fails. You
do not need to use any sort of verbal
indicator for Stealth skill; in fact, it’s
recommended that you don’t (so as to avoid
people calling “I see you” when they hear
your Stealth call, even if they can’t see you).
While hidden, you cannot speak or hold
anything in your hands. You may only move
at a slow walk, and you must remain next to
cover. You must keep your arms crossed
over your head and your Stealth kerchief in
hand. A character with Sharp Sense: Sight is
aware that someone is present, but cannot
pinpoint your location or description. A
character with the Sharp Sense: Sight
advantage and the Search skill can find you
after scrutinizing the area for ten seconds."

>>9049629
>>9049627
>>9049628
I've done some just archery tag with 50-60 pound draw bows. Its not an issue at range. However, you can definitely hurt people if you get decently close. I'm talking anything short of about 50 meters. On a full draw can hurt. especially if you hit any sensitive area(groin, face, etc)

>>9049642
Don't take /pol/ at face value, dear anon.

>>9049643
I hate games with invisibility.
It feels so stupid, I'm literally staring at you but I pretend I can't see you trying not to meta and let you do whatever.
Maybe just learn to be actually sneaky

>>9049643
>Cross your arms over your head and hold your special Stealth kerchief to indicate that you are hidden
> you cannot speak or hold anything in your hands
the joys of proofreading
Also If I would have this skill I would also bring a towershield or door with me which is as big as me. For stealth reasons. So if someone tries to chase me I can instantly vanish.
Because it looks like it doesn't have any casting time, or even cooldown

>>9049668
I know right? God forbid you ask people to actually do the thing they want to do in-game. My game tried out a mission last event with legit stealth elements, it was fucking amazing. If we had tried to do the same thing with these rules, there would have been no tension whatsoever. We may as well have sat down around a table with a GM and asked "Okay, does one of these NPCs have Heightened Sense: Sight? Alright, then we're fucked/alright, then we don't even need to exert an effort."

I really hope someday more American larp runners come around to the fact that rules-light is so much more immersive.

>>9049819
that's a very ableist approach, what if the retarded idiot wants to have FUN as well? Also why isn't nobody thinking about THE CHILDREN?!
etc, etc

>>9049668
>>9049819
Sort of a silly question, but how realistic is it to actually sneak and use stealth at LARPs? I mean, I did try it once, but that time was in a pretty much millitant game so although fun, it was rather pointless.

>>9049944
There were times when I nearly caused a heart attack to someone while sneaked up on him.
There was an occassion when I sneaked up on a camp and someone who went to piss in the woods nearly pissed on me because he couldn't see me.
There was one time one I killed four dudes one after another when they walked down a path at night, cutting there throats.
Then there was the priceless moment when someone thought he is very good at ambushes by finding a great spot and sit down there to wait his victims. It was too bad that I was already set up camp there and he literally sit right next to me...

I could go on but the tl;dr version is that sneaking is very much viable on a normal larp, although most of the time you need night game for that

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I am planning to play some kind of self-taught alchemist, that is non-academic (in the backstreets of my home town yadda yadda). Are there any characters in fantasy/historic (as if) litarature that I could confer to? Or should I ditch this whole idea because noone would recognise me as an alchemist anyway?

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>Only larp group in my area shut down due to everyone moving away

i don't know a single person left from it still living in this part of the country, i just want to play something, i'm so desperate i went on a five hour trip to play a minor npc role in a small larp held at my old school

>>9049944
Highly situational, but like Hungarian said, it's the sort of thing that's absolutely viable under the right circumstances and by somebody who knows what they're doing.

>>9049944
You'd be surprised how easily people ignore you if you adopt a non-hostile posture, even in open field line combat.

>>9049584
Not my job to find the information. IF he claims he saw a manual. he needs to fucking prove it. Im calling him out on his bullshit.

And you, are simply retarded. it isn't about "spoon feeding" its about validating your point with evidence. Gropey is just a fat ass and is trying to find an excuse for his clothes being too small.

>>9050020
If you build it,
they will come.

>>9049974
can you do alchemical stuff? yes? then who cares if others will recognize you as an alchemist or not? What they need to realize is that you sell stuff and that will happen very fast when you go up them, after you look around carefully, and say "hey guys, care to buy some... 'stuff'?"

>>9050196
You did see that he specified a manual, right?

>>9050277
Not that guy, but I don't see any manual specified that talks about undersizing clothes, and googling stuff along what he said turns up nothing.

>>9050277
>>9050508
I think we're all talking about different things, a specific fighting manual was mentioned, nothing about clothing.

why the fuck do I feel to old to get back into LARPING even tho I'm 26

it happens every sunday here in montreal
>>9049612
pansies a 150 lb crossbow feels like nothing at all even at 10 feet away taking a hit to the dome

I heard most americans groups flat out ban latex weapons how true is this

>>9050525
crossbow is very different from a bow with poundage. Area and length translate into force, the increase in length of a bow makes the lower pound pull hit harder.
A 150 pound crossbow is roughly a 25 lb bow.

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>>9049371
>Can't find one of thousands of modern-English translated PDFs of medieval/Renn fighting manuals

>>9049404
>>9049513
I even explicitly mentioned a specific document/style by name in another post! He couldn't find one with both hands and a flashlight.

>>9049416
As I said in >>9046618, most wouldnt work.

>>9049458
>>9049584
But I did mention one by name. Even mentioned how its godly in larp. The lack of headshots and heavy tip-work mean the high wards are not even a thing to worry about.

>>9050521
Crossing the streams on convos. I'll source you on fashion when I get home. I have a great letter from a father to son admonishing him on the high cut of his doublet, and tightness of his hose.


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I got to play with shields and hitty sticks for real last week. Although after being used to wearing plate all the time, the kevlar was pretty light.

>>9050525
>I heard most americans groups flat out ban latex weapons how true is this
Most? I doubt it. There are some, but they're shit.

Also I'm 26 and I only just got into larp for the first time.

>>9050788
It used to be true, though. I remember reading LARP forums as a kid back in 2008, everyone patting themselves on the back for being so forward-thinking and inclusive about making sure latex never reaches those poor people with injuries. Now, most groups have done a complete 180.
[spoiler]though I still haven't LARPed since then, even till today..[/spoiler]

>>9050593
oh neat I did not know this guess ill do some quick reading

I thought a 150-300lb crossbow was used for hunting deer

>>9050525
What are their reasoning behind banning latex weapons?

>>9051071
latex allergies. Not enuff padding.

>>9051027
>everyone patting themselves on the back for being so forward-thinking and inclusive about making sure latex never reaches those poor people with injuries. Now, most groups have done a complete 180.
Somewhere around a year ago I got a calimacil gladius and pugio, brought them to my local alliance chapter and I shit you not people couldn't believe they were calimacil because everyone had been scared into the "calimacil is made of brick and will murder anyone" mindset.

>>9051077
>latex allergies. Not enuff padding.
I've got quite a few friends with latex allergies, and they still engage in combat. The length of time the latex is on the skin is so minimal, they never have a problem.
Is the padding an issue because US larps have to be "full contact, no pulled blows" bullshit? A properly pulled blow will still hit with force and wont hurt that much.

>>9050602


>oh yeah! heres an invalidated claim it says so somewhere on a page out of a book!

K. I suppose you've never had to write a scholarly paper in your life. "wear smaller cloths it r gud." -random author from book.

here ill help you out.
http://www.easybib.com/

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>>9051156
Not Gropey's period, but there are tons of men's dressing guides from the seventeenth through twentieth centuries that suggest wearing slightly undersized clothes for formal events as it is slimming and/or creates the image of being well fed. Its a pretty constant fashion trope throughout history.

He's pretty good with documentation when he is at his computer. He IS published and works in museums after all.

>>9051156
Hello! Visting from the historic costume thread Over in >>8971608. Medieval Tailor's Assistant by Sarah Thursfield touches on clothing fit throughout history. Undersized jerkins, skin tight hose and tight lazing it all is all quite fashionable.

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>>9050525
There is 50yo+ larpers.

>>9050525
>every sunday here in montreal
Oh please dear god no...please never compare us to the Mont-Royal. its...what American Larp feel like.

>>9050525
>pansies a 150 lb crossbow

>I heard most americans


Oh...oh thats not a real person i get it.... Well played Mademeanswer/10

>>9045963
That helmet on the left is sexy as fuck. Would you know the maker?

>>9051596
Maker doesn't really matter, as much as its an accurate repro.

>>9051156
You come off cunty as balls mate. You should work on that.

>>9050525
>why the fuck do I feel to old to get back into LARPING even tho I'm 26
personal issues?
I'm 28 and still didn't got bored of larping

>I heard most americans groups flat out ban latex weapons how true is this
still happens, but varies. It's more common of not flat out ban it but allow ultralights and make a system where using anything else would put you at a disadvantage

>>9051156
I see our resident troll has come out of the cellar.

>>9051253
Great then he should have no problem getting actual evidence and showing us.

>>9051269
Id like too see your documentation on that. Skin tight hosen and lacing is fine, they were meant to be worn that way. The argument is that people purposefully wore clothes sizes too small for them, rather than having them made"tight" to fit them. Like skinny jeans, the fit is different but you wear the correct size. Ill be more than happy to accept it if you can come up with it the documentation that proves this, Rather than appropriating the fact that gropey is a lard ass who need new garb.

>>9051696
not too worried about it, I suppose i should step it up if i only come off as "a bit."

>>9051851
We're all less likely to give you anything with that attitude. You can apologize and we might help you, or you can just be a whiny cuck.

>>9051828
Man.. do you even enjoy LARp like these? This is like a proper LARP battle should look like.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4gFN_ZD_F0w

>>9051948
I never want to that larp so I couldn't enjoy it.
Then again I go to drachenfest so I can enjoy stuff like this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1vqYTIVMXPY

>>9051948
The problem is that he is right. It doesn't matter if he is an asshole about it or not.

>>9051955
Isn't Drachenfest much more festival than LARP?

>>9051957
it's pretty much a larp. There are parts that are festival-ish, but whatever. It has the second biggest larp battles
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p4XwWmoFtHg

>>9051961
Thanks..I'm from czech republic and I always thought about visiting... the biggest one is Conquest of Mythodea?

>>9051962
yep, that's the biggest one. And usually it's after the week of Drachenfest, so there is a possibility to buy tickets for both with a little discount I think.
Personally I never had enough money or free days from work to go to both

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LIttlebit of czech postapo scene.

>>9051971
I like more the photos from the siberia game. Although it's all the handmade stuff on the middle earth larps that I like the most

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>>9051978
Even on those "siberia games" you can find pretty impresive "handmade" things.

>>9051985
well, it's true for most Checz games as far as I see, it's just that on the middle earth games it's the most spectacular

>>9050611
your job is to beat up hooligans
in your free time you beat up larpers

I like you

>>9046125
If he's the best, he gets to say he's the best

A weekend saving the world in 40 degree Celsius humidity has taught me that a bandana is the most invaluable piece of kit I have.

>>9052148
Welcome, brother.

>>9052158
>What is the music of life?
Silence, my brother

>>9052230
We know!
Which makes me remember I once played on an elder scrolls larp a character like that

>>9052510
I am insanely jealous of Elder Scrolls LARPs and how they are no where near me

>>9048626
Sword&Buckler newbie here. As in, made a wooden buckler and using it until I figure out how to work with it. Do you have a link to an I.33 pdf?

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This is my outfit, gf and party in LARP (Spain)
Please, rate and be kind ^^

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>>9053289
>Chainmail on skin
I really hope he doesn't have as much body hair on his arm than I...

>>9053287
for you the only warning I would give is putting anything leather on the head can backfire easily as most of the time it looks shit. This is especially true for fake leather.
For the rest of the guys....
>>9053289
second guy from the right. I would ban him from wearing chainmail, forever. that arm thing looks very shit, and really see-through too. if he would attach it to his arm properly and maybe give a few layers of textile backing it could look like something that isn't totally garbage.
Pic isn't too big, so I can't see it properly but looks like the other parts of his chainmail are dubious at best too.
Also most of the them obviously wearing a T-shirt. If they would change it a long sleeved shirt, may or may not tied at the upper arm, or just folded back/whatever, it could greatly improve the look Linen shirts also works better in hot weather than cotton T-shirts.
Chainmail girl would also need to check her chainmail privileges and maybe someone should revoke it. The problem isn't that it's a chanmail bikini, but that it looks shit. There is a saying in hungary "it looks on him like pants on a cow" Totally doesn't fit her.
Middle guys leg whatevers (rocker apparatus?) looks dubious too.

also all of the "kilts" are totally wrong, they look like fucked up skirts.

If you can provide bigger pictures I can point out more stuff, but these are the biggest problems that I can see right now

>>9051971
Man, wish the weeaboos where I am put in that much effort.

>>9051466
>Oh please dear god no...please never compare us to the Mont-Royal

shits the same as bar league softball nothing wrong with it fucking mr BIDF

>>9052802
http://wiktenauer.com/wiki/Walpurgis_Fechtbuch_(MS_I.33)

Wiktenauer is a godsend

>>9053410
He doesn't now

>>9053852
The text in the book isn't clear at all, should it be like that? Like, do I only copy the moves from the paintings?

>>9051948
I Don't need the help. I don't really care if gropey is right or not, and i don't care if you think im "whiney." The point is, I'm holding gropey to the academic standard of burden of proof. If he wants to make scholarly claims he needs to back it with evidence, which he has not done. All he has said is "why don't you look it up?" That's not how the educated community works.

>>9054359
try this, too

http://www.swordschool.com/wiki/index.php/I33_Sword_and_Buckler

>>9054542
Are you trying to imply gropey's knowledge is academically gained, and not from experience?

>>9054542
This is 4 chan not your classroom. He doesnt need to do the resarch for you or prove anything. Nice try with trying to twist it around to make someone do work for you.

>>9051466
his tits are pretty amazing.. i'm not gay but i would fuck his ass just so i could play with those tits. does anyone else feel this way?

>>9051466
How do you GET that fat?

>>9054591
Unless gropey lived hundreds of years ago......

>>9054605
you're literally retarded.

burden of proof
phrase of burden
1.
the obligation to prove one's assertion.

He's asserted something. He can either prove it with evidence, or it is false.

>>9054359
you shouldn't be able to decode it without insight and knowledge. All of the codexes were basically advertisement of the masters that was basically "look, I can do this. Come and pay me and I will EXPLAIN to you how to do it"

>>9054542
>>9054591
>>9054605
>>9054679
>>9055008
Alright, autism levels are getting too high so let's get a few things straight.

There is a fuckhuge misscommunication here.
First of all, asshole anon asked about guides about the "gentlemanly dressing guides" that implies the undersized cloths were used willingly. but he said only "guides" in a reply to gropey post where he also mentioned a fuckton of things, among other things fighting manuals

Gropey replied to this that FIGHTING MANUALS can be found everywhere

Then another anon started asking about fighting manuals.

Then all of you retards stopped reading and changed into write only mode, and the whole thing got out of hand.

First of all, no matter how big of an asshole any anon or namefag or tripfag is, if someone states someone and some asshole ask for proof then he is right to do it. The guy who states anything has the burden of proof. Yes, you have to prove your point, big fucking surprise, doesn't matter if you are just a random retard or Saint Tobias himself.
You can off course brush it away as a retarded question, but in this case it was a legit one on the undersized clotihng thing AND even on the fighting manuals it would be a legit question.

HOWEVER everyone has a right to be as much a dick as he wants, anons, namefags and tripfags all included. No surprise there either. BUT just because you are "famous" you don't get a free pass at anything, especially not at being a dick, so all of the autists should stop pretending otherwise. Gropey was mistaken in the past, I was mistaken in the past every one of you was mistaken in some point at the past. and will be in the future.

So instead of an endless circlejerk you guys either make it into more interesting with better shittrowing or you should start posting period paintings and find sources to prove either side's point, pro or con.
Because as far as I'm concerned none of you idiots know shit about this, so it would be time to change that.

>>9055014
It's not the moves I can't figure out (Like, I can't figure them out as well but that isn't what I meant), I meant I cannot read the text. Like, at all. Should it be like that?

>>9054547
Thanks anon

>>9055159
depends. Do you know medieval lain? If not then it's normal that you can't read it.

That's why there are translations for it

>>9055035
Based fucking Hungarian over here

Can I upload my current kit here and get pointers on how to improve it? Is this an acceptable thing here?
Like, I think it currently looks like okay-tier or slightly under that but I want it to be more impressive I guess.

>>9055350
totally acceptable, most people do it.

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>>9055356
Awesome.

This is pretty much it, only thing missing from the picture is a plain, dark-blue tabard.
I'll probably get a new Gambeson but other than that I'll be happy for any suggestions about what to add/remove.
It's for DF, not re-enactment or anything so I could go for more anachronistic/fantasy ideas as long as it looks cool I guess.

>>9055374
full body pic would be better.
I personally don't like that gorget but that's a taste question.
a long sleeved shirt could also help, preferably linen. May or may not a glove too, but that's entirely optional.
And a hat. Some kind of hat.
can't see what kind of belt you have but adding a second one with a sword frog is could also be a good idea so your sword is on a different belt than all your other shit.
On that note a small side bag or pouch or something can be great too

>>9055388
What hat should I go for?
The second belt idea sounds like a good one, actually.
Anything else I should add to what you said? And where should I look for more inspiration? (So far using games like The Witcher/Souls, and Pinterest.)

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>>9055439
you can look for inspiration everywhere. It's hard to give you pointers because if you don't know where you want to go with this we will just start talking about what WE like. So you have to decide that.
But you can look at larp photos too, or reenactors, or old paintings, etc. Or just fantasy art.
About hat, I don't know, maybe a berret, but it would really depend on the whole setup and what you want to go for.
And if you post a full body pic I can tell you more, pants and stuff are important too for the big picture

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Does anybody know how to built something like this in pic related?

I am fairly new to LARP, started about a year ago.
Now I want try and build a costume for a chaos mage, similar to the costume in the picture.

>>9055505
It looks like it's made of EVA foam and such. I suggest you asking in the Cosplay help thread as well

>>9055505
That one looks like some kind of plastic, may or may not ABS. So that's an option. You can obviously make it out EVA foam and cover in it latex or something else
Also leather and metal is an option.

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>>9055035
You know Hungarian, you're a giant bleeding asshole sometimes.

But times like now, you're alright. Thanks for unraveling that clusterfuck.

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>>9055601
just sometimes?

>>9055035
I approve.

>>9055374
Get some bracers, the gambeson is too loose and flappy. Your entire lower arm is unarmoured, and it's a fairly easy target.
Gloves would also help, doesn't have to be armoured, normal suede or leather gloves would look good.

>>9055670
if he goes for style it can remain unarmoured but not bare. Hence why I suggested a good shirt.

>>9054542
>"I don't care"
>Still sperging like a mongoloid.
>Other people site THE reputable source for all such things
>Still spering

Yeah, nah. You're a cunt. Gb2 /v/.

Gropey is legit

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>>9053611
I dont even know what is a bidf.
I just know that a white person should never wear dreads, it's like the hippie's Fedora.

Semi-related, but is there any place online to sell armor?
I bought some armor a few years back that I don't like the look of anymore, and I wanted to upgrade my kit with the funds from selling this one.

Any post-apoc LARPers? I know that it's common in eastern Europe with all the abandoned bunkers there.

>>9056348
It's worth checking Facebook to see if there's any larp pages within your area, and posting what you have for sale on there.
If your in the UK, there's the UK LRP Kit lage where people sell their shit.
Or you know, eBay.

>>9055959
No one has cited anything within any reference that supports the claim "midevil folk purposefully work clothes too small for them.
Quit circle jerking and L2sourceevidence

>>9055035
Thank you

>>9056690
See>>9051269. Gropalope will probably mention more when he gets here. Stop being a child.

Need examples of good Pjrate outfits.
Hard mode: No Tricorns.
Super hard mode: With a cool hat that isn't a Tricoen.

>>9057831
I got some ideas from here: http://piratefashions.com/

>>9056804
gropeys word means nothing. I want the proof.

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>>9057831
Forget hats real real pirates have tiny pointy beards and wear manly lacy ruffs.

>>9057908
Medieval Tailors Assistant you jackass.

>>9058450
the MTA doesn't mention undersized cloths for italian fashion as far as I know. (but I never read all of it so feel free to prove me wrong)
It doesn't really mention various fashions that much either. It's mostly a how to sew stuff, focused more on the how instead on the why and what.

>>9058656
Not Italian specific. It mentions a few period dressing guides from france, England and Italy that suggest dressing in "clothes undersized to accentuate ones shape and form".

>>9058695
page? because I quick searched on the world undersized and nothing like that popped up.

>>9058450
>>9058656
>>9058695
>>9058704
YH O L Y YY Y shit were getting somewhere people.

>>9058704
I don't know, the kindle version is jumbled.

>>9058772
Take a screenshot and post it?

Anyone has a pattern/guide for a simple belt bag or whatever they're called?

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>>9059434
I have a very through tutorial for a complex one.

but here is a very simple one too, although not the best one and pretty much fantasy-ish

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>>9059681
also I have to go in half an hour for a little swordfighting and won't be back until tomorrow so here is the complex one

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>>9059737
The End

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I'd like to make a Deep-One costume and I'm wondering about how to craft the head.
The only latex-on-to-foam tutorials I can find are for swords.
Am I right in thinking it's the same deal with making creature masks? Carve the features out of the foam then just paint on/dip latex on to it several times until a good 'skin' is created?

>>9059770
Yep, that would be the way to make a latex on foam mask. It's a fairly cheap construction method, but it probably wont have a very good looking surface finish.

Don't try and tip something that large though, you'll just make a mess. Sponge the latex on instead of brushing if you don't want streaks.

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>>9059739
Not sure if a masterpiece or an abomination

Is it historical or just something you came up with?

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>>9059934
Different anon here. I'm not sure if that bag is a recreation of a find or just takes inspiration from one, but there's all manner of wacky bag designs - particularly from the renaissance period.

>>9059770
That is definitely one way to do it

>>9059770
>>9059921
Oh and also, if you want a higher quality mask you should consider sculpting and casting the mask. It's costlier and you'll need atleast some basic sculpting experience but I could whip you up a guide for the moldmaking and casting.

>>9059934
wasn't made by me, but it's historical. Can't remember the date or the source though, can look it up tomorrow if really interested

Does anyone here have any advice about full face/some body LARP make up?
I've just started playing a goblin and all my cosplay make up skills go right out the window once action, sweating and whole days are involved.

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>>9060611
Gropey is who you need to ask for this. I asked the same question for cosplay and his advice for body paint is to not use it. Use an opaque body stocking instead if you're going to be running around a sweating. Less likely to stain your costume or someone elses and easier and comfier to wear.

>>9060941
Sometimes, I forget that he's a real clown. Just ordered a jar of puke green and the spray. Will update on how it works

>>9060611
Rather than going full face makeup, it might be worth getting a full head mask, then using makeup to cover any uncovered spots.
Something like this:
http://www.mandalastudios.co.uk/product_detail.php?productID=150&toplevelID=5&parentID=123

Post your fav type of hat, LARPfags

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>>9061489
Kettle hat

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>>9061489
Phrygian hat for a qt like myself

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>>9061489
Shako! (Or Kettle)

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>>9059934
Helgeansholmen purse is the name, because the original was found at Helgeansholmen in Sweden. It's a replica of that, there are various other replicas out there too.

>>9061674
Thanks!

Surprised I missed that one since I've basically lived right next Helgeansholmen
for 5 years...

Just got back from my first SCA training. Fun as fuck, drenched in sweat and incredibly sore, but the pain is entirely worth it.

>>9061862
Be honest, is it as good as the clown makes it to be? Where is your group?

>>9061882
It's fucking awesome. I'm Danegeld Tor, West Kingdom.

>>9061893
Thats good. He built it up to sound fun.

On the subject, anyone see clownfag lately?

>>9050020
I know these kind of feels.

How much does a Corazzina weigh?

>>9061882
To be fair that can depend on the SCA group. Some are elitist pricks and some groups are really cool.

>>9061992
which one? But depends on how big it is and it would be close to a brigandine or to a plate armour with similar coverage.

>>9061900
he is still alive

>>9060048
That'd be great! I've wanted to try cast prosthetics but I've been kinda intimidated by cost, time and space needed.
I'd like to think I'm pretty proficient at sculpting :)

I need advice on getting a gambeson. My kit I'm building towards is 14th century, and I'm unsure of what to get for a gambeson. An SCA friend said I should get a custom one made by one of the ladies in the area, but I was wondering how good kult of athena gambesons are for their price?

>>9063282
A custom one will be always better. Little more pricey but usually they have a better cost/quality ratio. Then again that is if the maker knows what he or she is doing

>>9063300
It's an "I buy the materials and pay her for the labor" sort of thing.

>>9061900
>>9062480
He's got a new big position at a museum, and summer is starting. He's probably hating life right now.

>>9063282
If you have the money, springing for custom stuff is always a good idea. Kult of Athena's stuff is generally good quality though, so you can't go wrong there either.

>>9063315
that on itself doesn't tell much about her skills

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>larp group started a project for a guild hall this season
>finished off the basic construction and the roof
>get a lot more visitors and better roleplaying as a result
>really fun times thanks to everyones effort and contribution

>some shitheads start to vandalize the area, going around from camp to camp spraying graffiti or breaking furniture
>they completely trash our guild hall

not even 3 months old, just fuck our shit up...

>>9066257
Damn, thats a dick move. Wood can be quite fucking expensive in those quantities. Are you able to rebuild it?

>>9066396
We used up about 900€ of our guild's funds, which was pretty much all we had left in it, and then the members who could then helped out with transportation costs and completion costs.

Some of the wood is completely broken and will have to be replaced, so if we are to fix this we will have to completely rely on member donations.

Money issues aside, the real problem lies in the fact that the building is not safe. We can scramble together time and money from everyone, but we cant do it a 2nd time and absolutely not a 3rd time.

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>>9061489

Alopekis or Kidaris but they might be goofy in real life.

Phyrigan hat/thracian/dacian cap is always pretty though

>>9050020

What area?

Sup freaks and geeks.

>>9066257
What the dick-shits?

>>9066257
Well, that's sucks.
But look on the bright side: you have a terrain where you are actually allowed to build stuff.

Around here we doesn't have that yet. We usually play in the forest and even though one of the forest inspectors for one of the terrains is a player we are still not allowed to build anything big or serious.

Then again it's in a kind of remote, not interesting place so we rarely have anyone there apart from us, occasional dirtbikers who destroy stuff, or same with quad drivers.
And of course regular hunters and poachers.
And sometimes people throw there dead chicken and various kind of trash.

But apart from that it's a really nice place. We found out recently that another group comes there kind of frequently, a group of goa-trance-hippies or whatever. They go there listen to music, drink a little, make food around the campfire, etc.
To our biggest surprise they not just doesn't do any damage, they actually BUILT a few stuff, like chairs and similar things.

could some one plas post a tutorial for a tabard/surcoat ?

>>9068567
http://tutorials.abbott.me.uk/high-quality-kit/how-to-make-a-surcote

Just want to say I joined the SCA to beat up white people with sticks, fuck their women and generally prove I am better faster stronger and more wealthy than any of them

>>9071127
>Just want to say I joined the SCA to beat up white people with sticks, fuck their women and generally prove I am better faster stronger and more wealthy than any of them

And this is why I quit SCA, because it's literally a bunch of fat douchenozzles pretending that they're tougher and better than literally anyone else in the world, including athletes like Ronaldo and Messi.

I've started in the SCA, non-authortized yet, and I have to say

I HATE FUCKING SWORD AND BOARD RATTAN

Having a background in rapier fencing, these rattan weapons are fucking SHIT. They're heavy as all fuck, have absolutely zero balance, wind you if you fight in the heat extremely fast, and have zero finesse to their swings. These clubs are about as good analogues for a sword as smoothbore musket is for a Springfield.

Advice from the locals is that I use sword and board so I can get authorized by the martial easily, but frankly I fucking hate these things and can't swing them well at all. They're not swords, they're baseball bats.

How hard would it be to get authorized using a rattan longsword? I figure it's got to have better control because you can use two hands on it. Also, why the fuck doesn't the SCA just use blunted steel weapons for heavy fighting? Just increase the armor standards, this isn't supposed to be a cheap sport anyway, and blunted steel swords >>>>> rattan beat stick.

>>9071127
You're still just a bullshitting faggot. I love when the trips tear into you.

>>9071313
He's not SCA, just a troll whos never fought in his life and owns costume armour.

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Aigth so you all went back to full autismo mode rigth?

Godamnit Larpthread get it together, no wonder you keep falling for trolls.

Who's the player you had the best time playing with? Why was it fun? What was their character?

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>>9072026
the trips tear into me because of their own insecurities...
but yeah I was just bullshitting I am totes a nerdy armorfag...

Speaking of I didnt end up buying that kettle from those Slav armorers. Because well with the bevor it would have been 700 USD so I found these (pic related) in an antique store
They are think, probably very old and only used for parades/ceremonies/looking dope...
Pic is shitty but should I pursue it for a price quote man?

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>>9072699
they got all this kinda shit too, tons of weps and arms but they only sell the armor in full sets obviously, chinese shit, african shit, jap shit, slav shit, and you can only view the room itself by appointment

>>9072010
>>Having a background in rapier fencing, these rattan weapons are fucking SHIT. They're heavy as all fuck, have absolutely zero balance, wind you if you fight in the heat extremely fast, and have zero finesse to their swings. These clubs are about as good analogues for a sword as smoothbore musket is for a Springfield.

this 150 times anon. Thats why I got into HEMA and sparring with friends who are "down". We bleed, we laugh we drink, all in good fun. We allow grapples, trips, punches etc.

SCA sword and bore is the absolute worst especially when you spend alot of money on a good kit just to get defeated by a dude wearing fucking motocross grear under a fucking tabard lol

>>9072707
oh and fucking wrap shots...

alright faggots, new thread

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>>9072796

Where can I get a good, Dagohir crossbow? I'm looking to make an Arbalist ki