Tanbi kei - 90s edition The aristocrats of 90s visual kei, not

>>8981663
I really love the Italian Carnivale influence in this! Or at least that's what it looks like.

I'm craving for more! Flood this thread guys! Please!!!

>>8981823
I think they cited French influences actually, but that's not impossible.

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>>8981834
What do you think of this?

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>>8981899

One last bump as a search for interest, otherwise ima let it die.

>>8981662
I am so confused that this isn't Malice Mizer, and I am an oldfag.

>>8981662
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oDmzDCsP2O0

Psycho le Cemu will always have a piece of my old, wrinkly black heart

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>>8981899
>>8981900

Wow, Da'vid shito:aL! Didn't expect anyone here to remember/know them. They were definitely one of the most unique and eccentric bands in the scene. I miss them so much.

Aioria was also pretty good, it had some members from Da'vid.
Still consider their one and only album to be one of the best VK stuff I ever heard.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jC_gk4RkZag

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>>8981667

Key Party represent

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>>8984006
w00t

>>8984004
I actually didn't know about them until I came to /cgl/, before that I was still a kote kei fan though.

>>8983932
They're Lareine, started by Kamijo who was a roadie for Malice Mizer and was mentored by Gackt and Mana. Lareine is/was a great band.

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>>8984574

Da'vid shito:aL is really cool, glad to see people getting into them even after all these years. They were short-lived (like most indie bands), but left a big impact on the VK scene, there was nothing else like them.

They were also friends with Raphael which is another of my favorite 90s vk bands.

pic related is da'vid and raphael

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>>8985243

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZYtJgorbulI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qOqPjLKc1jk

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>>8984579

Kamijo was a roadie during the Tetsu era, not sure if he was still with malice mizer when gackt joined.

>>8985375
Right, but he still has been friends with Gackt.

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Dir en grey still counts right?

>>8987001
OP here, I very much appreciate you posting that here, I know I posted "tanbi kei" but really this thread should be "kote kei". ;)

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Still love them so much.

Nene <3

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bump

I need more old school bands to listen to

>>8990289
Listened to L'Arc's first album Dune?

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>>8990773

I did, not the biggest L'Arc fan, but their first three albums are solid and Tetsu is a great bass player and composer.

If you like L'Arc you might like Ize

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j5jXxkAmzJs

I remember listening to their Ark album a lot.

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>>8981662
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>>8981827
I'm so happy to see some love for Lareine here. I can talk/dump more of them if anyone is interested.

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>>8997018

I like Lareine, not their biggest fan but they were pretty good.
Mainly I'm not a big fan of Kamijo (and Lareine is mostly his own project, he even kept the name Lareine even when he was soloing during the Scream era).
But I admire Mayu and Machi, they are the best.

Have you heard their early stuff (when they were called Laliene, I think)?

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>>8997318
Machi has always been my favourite. I'm really happy to see they are doing well recently. I like Kamijo a lot too, but I get mixed feelings from him latelly.
I love their early stuff the most, specially their demos. Posting a few pics of those times.

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>>8999560

Did Mayu ever come back? He disappeared in 2006 and I never heard of him again.
And the last thing I heard from Machi was his Chanton l'amour project, which was pretty good, but I think they only ever released a single.
There's also a side-project by Mayu called Kakuunohitobito, but I never could get a hold of anything by theirs either.

I like pretty much all of early lareine, the demos, blue romance and firete, after that it was all hit or miss, I didn't like Kamijo's solo stuff like Grand Pain, and some later neo-Lareine stuff like the many ballads they did kind of bored me, but they still put out some good tracks like Knight and Priest and Gipsy, although I think they could never go back as being as good as the 90s Lareine, when Machi was in the band, maybe it's just my impression.

Could anyone explain to me the appeal you see in this fashion?

Not trying to be hateful or anything, just really curious. As someone who doesn't see the "appeal" of all of this, I'm interested to know what you see in it.

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>>9000518

There isn't really a set fashion for visual kei, especially in the 90s when it was less homogenized and more experimentation was going on.

Lareine in particular (the band in the OP) was heavily inspired by Rose of Versailles. They even did a cover of the opening theme
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qt9E3MdoEes

Then it varies from band to band. Most of them had a goth/punk/glam look to them but there was a lot of different sub-styles and others that don't even fit anywhere like da'vid shito al: >>8981900

A lot of the j-street fashion was influenced (and vice-versa) by many of these 90s vk bands.

>>9000512
They had a reunion concert with all of them last year

>>9000518
Just leave, troll. If you don't understand the beauty of a certain style, you can't be forced to.

>>9000574

Wow cool, I was just checking an interview and some pictures from their blogs. They were all still in their full costumes and Machi still loves red roses lol.

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>>9000673
a DVD of the reunion will be released in July, I believe, I'm really hyped to see it.

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>>9000971

>>9000576
I never said "force me to like it", I said "What do you see in it".
If asking for an opinion different to mine it's being a troll then okay.

>>9001006
Thing is, even if you didn't had that intention, it sounds like you did. Probably because of the way you wrote the question and also, because is really difficult to explain something like that, since is something really subjetive. We could tell you "because it looks elegant" or "because it looks like something out of fantasy" or "because it looks beautiful" and you wouldn't get it, because you won't eee it that way, anyway.

>>9000971

That's pretty cool.

I just looked up the set-list
http://www.setlist.fm/setlist/kamijo/2015/zepp-divercity-tokyo-tokyo-japan-13f27551.html

I see now, it was a Kamijo solo event, where Lareine returned for a short set, Versailles and even New Sodmy were also there.
It's similar to the Dix Inferno events where Mana often reunites with older members. I still remember in the first Dix Inferno Mana formed a super band where he played drums, and Kamijo with Sanaka from Fatima (who also was a MM roadie) on vocals performed Baroque by Malice Mizer.
Michiru from Aioria also did something similar a couple years back where Aioria also performed a set of 5 songs or so.
Anyway the songs they selected are good, still too few to celebrate a revival like that, wish it was a full concert, but still it's better than nothing. Kinda weird to open with a song like Lillie Charlotte though, would have preferred Death Piano or some other more iconic number.

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>>9001198
Agree with that. I'm guessing they just went with Sony era songs, if I recall correctly Kamijo only used major released Lareine songs/clips during all his 20th Anniversary tour. Or maybe they went with the ones they remembered the most, since Machi and Mayu haven't been on stage in ages. That specially applies to Lillie Charlotte where they usually just faked playing the instruments along the backtrack, meaning less practice needed for it.
I still wanna believe that now they got together once they will make at least another live reunion, or even release something together. Meanwhile, have more old pics, now from the time Kamijo started playing with hair bleaching.

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>>9001994

I was reading this interview

https://lambpatch.wordpress.com/2016/01/05/machi-lareine-2015-interview-translation/

It's pretty cool how both Mayu and Machi (and also Emiru) showed up spontaneously at Kamijo's show... if that's true it's awesome.

I'm looking forward to the DVD.

Here's some more rare old candid LALIENE

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>>9002331
Totally agree! In any case is awesome how after all those years, they managed to put any difference they had at side and worked together like good friends.

Thanks, didn't have that one! Have another rare old candid in return, this time on stage.

>>9001994
They didn't fake anything, there are just some songs with heavy backing tracks and simple arrangements for the instruments.

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Some obligatory bands that also need to be in this thread:

BAISER
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jIBeMbbpKag

Laputa
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b6-xCXCPReo

Deshabillz
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4gZyAZYPItI

ANGEL+DUST
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zaPptNanzgI

>>9007059
Yay! Thank you!

>>8984004

Aioria are easily one of my favorite VK bands as well.

Have you heard SyvaR? they were from 2003 or so, but clearly influenced by Aioria. Too bad they only released 1 mini album.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t6diN-Ot-RQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FOPBwzLxqJI

I figure people who like Lareine should also like this.

Why did Gackt going from Malice Mizer to this?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D9kHYv2Lqg4

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>>9010532
Because he wanted to be a media celeb person, not the singer of a gothic band.

>>9010548
down grade imho but he is probably richer now

>>9010548
>>9010720
I have so little respect for Gackt..

>>9010732
>>9010720
Totally agree.
He probably is way more popular or well known now, and that probably why took that risk, you know singing the hymn at Baseball matchs, being a regular on Hey Hey Hey and stuff like that.
Getting that level of acceptance seems way more difficult as a vampire roleplayer, and then on the other hand Kamijo was invited to see the Prime Minister and his wife... in costume. So, who knows?

>>9010849
I Would never trade what I am for normalfag social acceptance, ever.

>>9010861
I know, I totally agree with you on that.

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>>9010849

When did Kamijo met the prime minister? It's the same prime minister who's an X Japan fanboy? If so, that guy was awesome.

About Gackt, the guy took advantage of his popularity in MM.
In his auto biography he says that he was kicked out of the band by decision of the other 4 members, but Mana says otherwise.
Everything points at Mana having a fight with Gackt. Probably Gackt wanted to take Malice Mizer in a different direction than Mana wanted, but this is just a guess. I think Kozi and Gackt are still friends, and he was also friends with Kami until the end (Kami passed away after Gackt left), so I think it was mostly a Mana vs Gackt thing.

His first album Mars was enjoyable, it still had some Mizer-y stuff (illness illusion), while also going completely J-pop with songs like Vanilla or DEARS.
Gackt was always my least favorite MM singer, Klaha being my favorite and Tetsu my 2nd, both are wildly different yet represent the essence of MM. Gackt was OK, but Klaha completely blew the fuck out of him in terms of voice and skills.
Klaha's solo career was completely bizarre though. I admit I enjoy Nostal Lab and Marchen as a guilty pleasure.

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>>9011729
>Klaha
Man, that takes me back! I miss his weird shit.

>>9011743

Remember Pride of Mind?

I still listen to them to this day, never gets old

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uuchMmuf188
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rujpL8H2fuk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=73Z_7isT3bA

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>>9011729
That was last year, I believe. Not sure if the same Prime Minister, though, I don't really know too much about japanese politicians.
Here are the pics I could find online since I'm not on my PC right now.
Kamijo with Abe's wife and another model, can't recall her name. This was their first meeting. Don't know if he saw Abe that time.

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>>9012114
Later Abe invited him, amongs other artists, to Hanami. Pic related.
Seems there were also other meetings with Abe¡s wife but out of costume, there are a few pics of those too.

>>9011729
Totally agree with you on Klaha > Tetsu > Gackt.

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>>9012114
>>9012132

Then it's not the same prime minister I was thinking, but I was just looking up and it seems Abe also reunited with Yoshiki in Los Angeles.

Anyway, what's the story behind it? Why was Kamijo invited there? Is Abe a fan of his? Or maybe his wife?
The prime minister I was thinking of was Koizumi, he even used X Japan's "Forever Love" for his TV ad campaigns, and I believe Yoshiki performed on the piano for a national event once.

>>9011729
I feel like it's more than Mana vs Gackt though.
I keep reading that no one told Gackt when Kami passed away so he missed the funeral. He was on tour at the time, but still why didn't the other band members say something if they were on friendly terms?

If one of my band members wanted to sell his music by appearing naked in a commercial, I think I'd want him to quit too desu.

I guess this is all speculative, but I hope there's a reunion with Klaha one day.

>>9011750
Flowers was my fave.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wp8R5cW4wtE
They should've made more but I heard they were unpopular with Soft Ballet fans because the music sounded too similar to theirs. SB wasn't as industrial sounding though.

>>9012185
Ohh yeah, now that you mention it I kinda remember having read about Koizumi and X before.

About Kamijo, I'm not totally sure, but around that time he took part on a small fashion show where Abe's wife was too, I'm guessing she asked him to be there too, but I can't find any info in english on it. I do know Abe's wife has worked as a radio DJ too, so I guess it makes sense she knows about music, and probably knew or is a fan of Kamijo.
She seems really cool.
Here's a pic of him at the fashion show.

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>>9012477
And I dropped the pic.

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>>9012483
And this is from their New Years small reunion, had to post it because I find really cute how Ms. Abe is doing the horns sign with Kamijo. Maybe she is fan after all?

>>9012318

I didn't know that about SB fans. Well, both SB and PoM were hugely influenced by Depeche Mode and have a similar sound, but SB was a lot more popular, Pride of Mind was more indie and underground.

Anyone listened to Hisui (翡翆)? I came across them because the drummer is JUN who was a member on Matenrou, the old Mana and Kozi band pre-Mizer.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ASi2hisUnm0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZecSTKFlYi8

It's very indie but I like it.

What are your favorite hide songs?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZPdb5MBYte8

Can't believe it's been 18 years already.

>>9015226
Is there any recording of Matenrou? I'm curious.

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>>9016554

There is actually 2 live songs of them recorded professionally due to being featured on a V.A. VHS tape called Nervous Night

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=exOY7HTbN_8

The songs are U.RA.GI.RI (by Kozi) and Meikyuu no tobira, a Mana song that later got cannibalized into Shuumaku e no tobira for Malice Mizer's first demo, which was always a favorite of mine.

U.RA.GI.RI also got released on a demo tape, and there's also another demo tape which is self-titled and has 2 nameless songs.

>>9019950
Thanks! It really sounds like early Malice Mizer. Loving it!

>>9021393

They really do, it's proto-Malice Mizer. And with only Mana and Kozi.
The difference is that Mana was on bass here.

>>9021473
You guys are amazing, I never knew this obscure stuff existed.

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New band called Marco. I really think they're great, very unique. Please give them a chance.
http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLKoh96Tm6nQAy8Vvbd2vjn9nD9B5XcwaS

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>>9021997

There's even more!

Matenrou self-titled demo tape with 2 unknown tracks
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7aTlgIupwsk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5rumcXb3DYI

I remember for a while there was concern about whether or not this demo is actually from Matenrou, since it sounds so different than the other 2 songs. But maybe they're songs not composed by Mana and Kozi, and instead were composed by Kaie (the vocalist), since they sound somewhat similar to the stuff he released after Matenrou, on Dunexxxx. Could also be Jun (drummer) or Kenichi (guitarist) songs.
They're still good songs, I love the 2nd track. Sounds more like standard VK, but still good.

And this is an old one, Girl'e
Mana's punk band from before Matenrou, when he was just a teenager. He was on guitar here, and his stage name was Serina.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zPPYi6WWDlQ

It's funny because even if the music is nothing like his later bands, the guitar solo sounds like a Mana guitar solo.

>>9019950
>The songs are U.RA.GI.RI (by Kozi) and Meikyuu no tobira, a Mana song that later got cannibalized into Shuumaku e no tobira for Malice Mizer's first demo, which was always a favorite of mine.

Uragiri also got reworked and transformed into a new song called Hakuchuu no waltz during the Tetsu era. Sadly it was never recorded on studio but there are several good quality bootleg recordings of it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HTHIM5mGeaU

>>9026125
Fuck, that explains why It sounded so familiar to me. I'll have to hunt those bootlegs recordings.

>>9026391

There are a lot of videos of early Malice Mizer luckily. They were super rare and almost unobtainable for western fans back in the day as they circulated only within a few select MM fans in Japan, but eventually some western fans started acquiring these tapes, ripped them, and today they're almost all uploaded on youtube, both videos and audio recordings.

There are a handful of songs that were never recorded on studio, and forgotten in the Tetsu era.

I love this one, Portugal
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QJwYttJKqgc

And some of them were actually recorded later, for example Shi no butou on Voyage. Personally, I like the Tetsu vocals better, the song was obviously composed to fit his vocal range. It feels a bit out of place in the romantic, french poppy Voyage, it sounds like a memoire track.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AP8I-BMvQr8

>>9026917

woops, I posted another track, but it's OK because Freeze Me is also amazing.

This is Portugal:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hLn7FOEEoAE
I don't know why but this song sounds like Kozi wrote it.

>>9026917
>but eventually some western fans started acquiring these tapes, ripped them, and today they're almost all uploaded on youtube, both videos and audio recordings.
And that's why I love the internet.

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I present to you one of the best VK tracks from a band you've probably never heard of before

[pjuer] - All By Myself
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R_C8mg0aE70

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Mana just posted this on his Twitter.
He's savaging some really old MIDIs from Malice Mizer to use at the upcoming Malice Mizer session at the upcoming deep sanctuary event in August.

I'm dying to know what are they going to perform and also sad I'm not able to attend.

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>>9030609
I was just about to ask if anyone else is going to attend.

I just got my tickets. I couldn't pass up the opportunity.

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>>9030812

Very jelly.

Did you attend any event like this before? Dis Inferno or otherwise.

>>9030970
First time. Have you gone before?

Is it a bad idea to wear MmM? The clips I saw of Malice Mizer concerts look so tame. No crowd surfers or even much movement in the crowds.

I'm confused if this event more special than previous Deep Sanctuary events. I don't think they ever mentioned the name Malice Mizer before, but I could be very wrong.

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>>9030989

Never, but I know people who did.

Japanese concerts typically aren't as wild as western concerts (unless you go to really underground punk/hardcore gigs). I think one of the most recent MdM events was at a venue with all seats.
On MdM concerts people do headbang, but they stay in place, no mosh or crowd surf.
I guess it feels a bit cold and artificial, but at the same time it makes it easy to focus on the show.

They already had previous MM reunions, I think the first one was in 2010. They've done it a couple more times.
The MM sessions are short though, they perform only 2 or 3 songs each time. I think they've done Sakai no chi to bara, Beast of Blood, Hakai no hate, N.p.s N.g.s and S-Conscious, as well as a Rob Zombie cover (?).
Hopefully this year they'll do a longer set.

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>>9031045
Thanks a lot, anon! I'm so excited and I'll be sure to cheer twice as hard for you. I do hope it's a longer set this year too, but even if it's not, I'll still be happy. I hope they'll perform something off of Merveilles finally though.

Malice Mizer really has a special place in my heart and they're also a band my husband has loved since forever. Now we're going to the concert together and it's giving me a lot of feels.

>>9031045
Any clue who was singing when MM performed those songs?

>>9031830

Kozi

>>9031825
This has to be the brightest coloured Mana I've ever seen.

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>>9032352

What about green hair Mana?

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>>9032352
>>9032389
Feast your eyes

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Very old pic Mana recently uploaded on twitter.

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>>9031825

Have a lot of fun, I hope this thread is still here or a new one is made so you can report back, would love to read about it, although I'm sure the girl from the mana-sama site/blog will also write a live report.

I personally would hope for a Tetsu-era song, what's more, I'd hope that Tetsu makes a surprise appearance (he's still friends with Kozi, so it's not totally impossible, although unlikely).
Merveilles songs are also likely, they already performed S-Conscious before. Would be cool if they performed something like Bel Air.

This reunion seems to be the most hyped up yet, so I'm expecting something cooler than the previous short sessions they did.

>>9034154
>I'd hope that Tetsu makes a surprise appearance
That would be fucking amazing, the only thing that could top that would be to bring back Klaha from whatever planet he is on.
Then again, Kamijo somehow managed to do that with Machi.

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>>9033821
Mana has been posting a lot about Malice Mizer.
Does he always or is he really hyping it up so I buy his concert tickets?

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>>8985243
>>8981899

Da'vid is my favorite VK band along with MM.

Best song:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TEy0cdmiY68

>>9036074

That song got stuck in my head badly, it's so catchy. And it has a weird feel about it. Sounds like classical music mixed with bizarre punk... hard to describe, but where has this been all my life?

Anywhere I can get their stuff? CD Japan has nothing from them

>>9033821
Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't this one (and the other one he posted at the same time) the first sanctioned no-makeup Mana picture?

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>>9038917
I think we had these two before, can't find them with a bigger size at the moment though.
Third pic on the second row with the punk hair.
And the one with the obscured eyes.

>>9040106
Ah I see. The peak of my MM interest was around 2000 when the internet didn't turn to shit with social media yet, but MM and Mana solo pictures were few and far between and all very coveted. After the hiatus I stopped following really so I guess I missed out on a lot that has surfaced since then.

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>>9038917

There are a couple candid shots, also I think Mana actually has some makeup in that old picture.

I have a pic where Mana is without makeup and you can easily see all his face features without makeup, it was a candid shot taken when he went to Europe, many years ago.
He's wearing glasses though, as always. I'll post it if I can some other day, it's at another PC I can't access right now, in the mean time have some Mana smile.

>>9037486

Da'vid is really unique, but their stuff is somewhat hard to come by, but not expensive. You can probably find their hoshi no hako CD for cheap in stores like puresound.

Unpopular opinion in this thread but to me gackt was the best vo of MM, but to me Gackt is a freakin'great vo in general and the magical creature elf fantasy prince angel vampire theme suited him a lot.

I wonder if someone will ever find out what the heck 'went wrong'. I mean it's all just rumors right?

>>9042170

The only official source we have about Gackt leaving is what he wrote in his auto biography book. I don't remember in detail right now but it said something like he got fired for no reasons by decisions of the other members (mainly Mana and Kozi). But I don't buy his version 100%.
I think it's possible that both Mana and Kozi wanted him to leave, but there must be a reason he's hiding or not admitting.

I like Gackt in Malice Mizer, and it's generally the most liked and famous era. I'm quite surprised to see other fellow Tetsu fans around here, we're usually the minority.
Still, some of Gackt's MM songs are among my favorites, like Uruwashiki kamen no shoutaijou (by the way, there was supposed to be a Moi dix Mois remake of this song).
I even love Le Ciel a lot, and that song was written by Gackt, the only MM single not written by Mana or Kozi.
It's Gackt's solo career that steered me away from him, I liked a couple tracks on Mars but not the rest.

>>9030812
Why does this have to be on the same day of Versailles' resurrection concert?? :(

>>9042197
I cry whenever I listen to le ciel, and I can't even explain why. It's just so full of emotions, I have tons of Ciel interviews, life shows and the pv on my laptop lol

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>>8985375
Man I love MM's early 90s look so much. Their later costumes were amazing, but the thrift-store goth thing they had going in their early days was so cool.

>>9042197
>I'm quite surprised to see other fellow Tetsu fans around here, we're usually the minority.
Add me to the list. I think all three were great, each in his own right, but if I have to pick then Tetsu edges the other two if only so slightly.

Gackt's very good and all and he has the most popular songs going for him. But I also feel he wasn't very sincere and a bit of a tryhard sometimes.

Klaha is great but in the short period we got to see him he was so serious business. Maybe it was the concept, or maybe it was the legacy he stepped into that was holding him back. But his very goth and operatic but very serious business and expressionless performance gets boring to me after a couple of songs.

Finally Tetsu... Tetsu was the original raw energy and this maniacal insane tinge to his performance is what wins me every time, period.

Just compare the "Kioku to Sora" live performances by Tetsu and Klaha and you'll see what I mean. I never managed to find a Gackt version of this song - does one even exist?

This is the only Gackt solo song that I care about: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=11uI5i2GDiY

>>9042582
>I never managed to find a Gackt version of this song - does one even exist?

Yep, they performed it for a brief period of time before Voyage released.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GIQ-N2-dnkQ

You can hear it there, starting at 11:30

I personally think it sounds funny, like Gackt tries to catch up with Tetsu's rapid, logorrheic singing, but it sounds like he's running out of air.
Klaha made his version soother and slower to fit his style better.

From Gackt solo I really like Illness Illusion, it even sounds like it could be a MM song
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=960A7-Z5Bv0

>>9030989
The audience is mostly girls; from concert reports written by regulars I've read it doesn't sound like anyone's gotten their clothes damaged.
Could get kinda hot inside though so you might opt for short sleeves so you don't get too sweaty in that enchanted Moitie polyester.

>>9042630
>You can hear it there, starting at 11:30
Haha, thanks. Best proof that sometimes it's better not to know. It's good that he brought his own style later on, but one does not simply try and imitate Tetsu.

>>9042630
>>9042682
Totally agree, sounds like he is forcing himself too much. Nobody beats Tetsu at signing like Tetsu. I really like his look on that pic though.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LUJVdx5GqLg

underrated band

>>9045596
the best

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>>9045916

Nice to see another anon who appreciate them, truly legendary band. Yukiya is awesome.

By the way, have you ever heard GRASS? it's basically most of the first era of D=SIRE members sans Yukiya with Ya-su (from Ya-foo) on vocals, truly charming little band.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6TVprGdD9aY

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Ought to mention Velvet Eden

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oUHHufZuvio
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bVZwjRbtcdA

To be honest I haven't bothered with their new stuff, I saw a few PVs but I wasn't impressed, and the whole drama surrounding Dada on his facebook account kind of turned me off from him, I think his mystique was kind of lost over time, maybe it's just me.
Anyway, I still love old Kalm-era VE.

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anyone here into gille'loves/fiction or Lucifer?

One of my favorite bands Raphael. They came back to do some reunion lives recently and it seemed they might do more. But then they announced they will officially disband after their 2 day one man live on 10/31 and 11/1.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=29EBcmz2SRY
https://youtu.be/RiRmD9fkAHA

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>>9050064

I like her stuff! One of the few japanese artists who actually sounds like legit goth/death rock. I wonder what's she up to now, anything new? I think the last album I heard by her was from the early 2000s.

>>9050075
Raphael was/is grand, I posted one of their songs here >>8985245
Yuki is one of my favorite vocalists ever, his voice is unique. It's nice to see them together again, I also really like rice.

>>9049520
>the whole drama surrounding Dada on his facebook account

Details please

>>9051534
Different person, but maybe anon above ment him deleting a few 100 people from his fb?

I remember that Dada and I l often had a chat over there. Then he made a post about how he wants to delete some folks and first I didn't even bother. But after a few weeks it has been my turn, damn. He wrote me sth like 'bye forever'

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>>9051534

Lots of unprofessional handling on his part.

Don't get me wrong, it's nice that he tried to get in contact with his fans, but the way he did it wasn't good for him and it damaged his image (at least to me). He bitched a lot about inane things and then there's stuff like >>9051548

He actually reminded me of Kiwamu from Blood sometimes, which is scary.

Speaking of Dada, he's now designing for a new lolita brand

http://komachijapan.com/
http://komachijapan.com/designer.html

And seems the new way to stylize his name is "DaDa"

>>9051838
Can you give further examples of how he ruined his image to you? Never stalked him that much, he was always nice with me, even commenying on my photos or sending me photos of his cat

But I think he made one of this 100% changes from one day to the other. He was all nice and suddenly he turned into rage mode dada

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>>9052164

I actually never talked to him directly, or followed him closely ever, so I have no examples, I just remember reading about the FB drama and thinking, man... really Dada? It was kind of embarrassing to see him ranting a lot in engrish, I didn't expect that kind of reaction from Dada, thought he was a much calmer, cooler guy. Anyway, maybe saying it ruined my image of him is too much as I never had really that much of an image of him, but I think sometimes it works better when artists keep their personal stuff to themselves and use communication with fans in a more moderate way.

>>9052164
Well from what I've seen he posted on his FB that he hated all foreign Velvet Eden fans. I guess it was because people were spreading rumors about Kiwamu.

>>9052338
So are kiwamu and him homies or what?

I haven't heard of kiwamu in ages

>>9052354
Well Velvet Eden was on his record label. So Im going to guess they were friends. But since Velvet Eden disbanded, Im not sure if they are still in contact.

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>>8985243
>>8985245
>>9050484

What'd you guys think of pleur? They were very similar to Da'vid Shito:aL but without Misa, but they still had good songs.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kQFlHPIGzzY

there's even some live footage (including a da'vid cover which is sweet)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IMDAINyfAQE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6j7VO55x16U

I wonder where's Pietoro now, and the rest of the da'vid/pleur members too.

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>>9050484
Totally agree with you, I miss her a lot.
Sadly nobody knows what happened to her. Around 2004, I believe, she seems to have left music, and started working as a tarot-reader under the name of Nana. She made a new blog and wrote a lot on it and seems she answered fanmail too. Near the end of 2007 she had a couple of very depressing blog posts about quitting that job, having personal issues to deal with, money problems and feeling too old being in her forties. After that she has basically dissapeared from earth.

So most of her fans are just waiting for a miracle to have her reappear someday.
Now that Larene's Machi has a twitter I feel so fucking tempted to ask him about her, since they were really close friends back then (they even hosted a website and wrote a blog together) but I'm afraid it could make him unconfortable, or the fact that he maybe doesn't know either.

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>>9052790

Damn, that's really sad to hear.
Maybe try asking Machi on private? If twitter even has that option. Otherwise if he has a blog on ameba or something you can send private messages.

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>>9053716
Not sure if you still can send private messagges to people that don't follow you on twitter, but is a really good idea.

>>9052354
I think Kiwamu just wised up and stopped making a fool of himself publicly.
Supposedly he's actually a pretty competent band manager. People who've been to concerts run by his label have seen him running around working constantly behind the scenes. So he's okay when he sticks to the business side of things.

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Yu~ki-hakushaku!

Fans of early Malice Mizer should listen to Me-dousa. They were a short-lived band and only released a handful of songs, but what's out there is pretty good.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=is56QhOowig
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2xosErpO5EE

>>9057753
Thanks. Loved the first song. Will have to check more of them.

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>>9057753

Damn they're really nice, I can hear the Malice Mizer influence.

Another band that I think kinda sounds like early Malice Mizer is indies Pierrot, specifically their first album "kikurui pierrot".
Most of you are probably familiar with Pierrot (or at least Kirito), but the first record of the band featured Kirito on guitars and not vocals. Their sound was really different from what came afterwards.

Some tracks from kikurui pierrot:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6uGb9dbpeD8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c48L3k1dR2Q
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tFOJIkRydpI

I know it's not exactly like Malice Mizer, or not as close as those Me-douse tracks are, but early Pierrot always satisfied my need of somewhat intricate guitar work found in MM. Kirito playing guitar was much better than as a vocalist!

I still like some of the earlier Pierrot stuff with Kirito as vocalist though, their Pandora no hako album still sounded a bit similar to their first album.
This song is amazing, and whenever I listen to it I think "yes, this is visual kei"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHRq8ChTxYI

But then their sound became more and more mainstream until it became this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NyGJT-lgXIo

Still, Pierrot is in general a pretty amazing band in all its eras, but indies Pierrot will always remain my fave.

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Finally found >>9040106 one at a decent size on my old computer. Enjoy!

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I've got a picture of Mana in street clothes from Kera volume 4, published October 20th, 1998.

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>>9065338
>PC supergrafx

Oh Mana, you're such a /vr/ dork

>>9065397
I think I have seen a translation of that interview somewhere, he talked about how all his friends got a famicom and he got a supergrafx instead, and the games he liked. There was a picture of him playing on an arcade too. Let me google a little, I might find it.

>>8984004


That aioria song is bloody amazing.
they only released one album?

>>9067590
One full album. It was so good. One of the only visual kei albums I still really enjoy.

>>9067590
>>9068446

Yep! Kirameyuku Shunkan was their one and only album and it's one of the best VK albums I've ever heard.
They also have demo tapes that were released before the album, the songs were all redone for the album, but the demo versions are different and worth checking out too

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7w1igf1iEI0

This is my absolute fave by them though:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RPFz1AsTRbs

It's so beautiful.

Aioria was Malice Mizer-tier IMO.

http://headlines.yahoo.co.jp/hl?a=20160625-00000341-bark-musi

My Japanese is terrible and Google Translate is failing me. Are Versailles fully getting back together aka making new music or is it just about more reunion concerts?

>>9070054
As far as I have understood they are going to make new music. They have official reunion ceremony in August and Hizaki is also going to publish a solo album then.

>>9070054
They are fully going back to making music again. They will release a new album on september. 13 tracks, 2 new songs and the of it will be re-recorded versions of their greatests hits, and a DVD with a small documentary on the band's come back.

Seems they will also continue doing other stuff, probably to avoid feeling stuck with Versailles again.
Hizaki will release an instrumental solo album that has Silent Knight and Desert Apple on the tracklist. Not sure what will happen with Jupiter's activities, but Zin is doing solo lives already.
Kamijo will also continue with his solo work this year at the same time, since some of his live dates got pushed thanks to the terrorist attacks in France.

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>>9070715
*2 new songs and the rest of them will be re-recorded versions of their greatests hits

>>9069310

I just downloaded the whole album and I'm in love.

I want to get a hold of the actual demos now.

http://page21.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/j389998104

is this a good deal? I don't care for Syndrome, but it has 2 Aioria demos for only 400 yen.

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The two people behind Mana are from Art Marju Duchain, right?

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I don't know if Kinniku Shoujo-tai can be considered visual, but they're awesome.

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rare candid Mana shot

>>9086507
He kinda reminds me of Mr. Yang there.

>>9087619
I'm guessing you're so new that you don't know that the hat Yan often wears is a Moitie knock off

>>9087670
No, I'm just not too much into lolita. But that makes a lot of sense.