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/ouG/ - Boystyle General: Classic Ouji edition

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This thread is for ouji and aristocrat (aka "boystyle") discussion. Boystyle refers to the masculine counterparts of lolita and aristocrat fashions. There is a lot of overlap between these styles, and different people use different terms to describe them. So, consider this a thread for those whose style is on the right half of Buttcape's Lolita Family Triangle: http://www.kawacura.com/moripress/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/0dmmLH6-350x350.jpg

>Shopping spreadsheet
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1j7sg2_7CvXUeIgZGGSLvJ9lUUuSVXhW8FlWWFwiv1Yk/edit?usp=docslist_api

>Blogs for current boystyle releases, news, and info
palaceofprinces.tumblr.com
ouji-armoire.tumblr.com
buttcape[.]blogspot[.]com (Currently mostly offline but we hope for a return soon; currently has a better-organized list of shops though!)

Google your questions before asking them here.

Read the whole thread before asking questions here.

OC and selfposts encouraged! Randpm picspam discouraged; we've seen most of it by now.

DISCUSSION TOPIC: Where can we find some good fucking hats already?
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>>8955984
will post the Gothic and Sweet tutorials from this set also, just because
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>>8955985
that is the goth, here is the sweet
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3rd for nouji & fujoshis being the sissies of ouji world?
New nouji task: self-made mad hatter hat.
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>>8956094
Oh actually hats are in op. I'm considering making one myself. I was planning to use cardboard as a base, sew over it with a black non glossy material and then add a ribbon and accessories. I'd like to use something brand made as I don't plan to walk around with a deck of cards from a corner store. Tho Idk what???
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Does anyone know a good place to find a navy blouse that would be suitable for ouji? Putumayo is the only place I can find one, but it looks see-through, and I'm not sure how good the quality is. I've tried checking taobao, but haven't had much luck there either.
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>>8957865
Boz sometimes do navy blouses, as do Moitie. Alice and the Pirates occassionally as well, so worth a look?
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I'm trying to identify a Moitie gilet I picked up on Alice Fururun. I've found similar, bt does anyone recognize what year it's from, and whether the piece has a name? It's a halter-neck gilet with a lace up back, double-breasted, and longer at the back. It's a mens' size EGA item.
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>>8957904

Search for the SKU located on the clothing tag.
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>>8957963
Thanks.
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>>8957963
this, the item number will usually be prefaced with "EGA" and you can search from there.

not every release is archived on Lolibrary, though. my wide pants and one of my blouses are not on there, last times i have checked.
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>>8958329
I've searched high and low on Lolibrary for it, to no luck. Thus in part why I'm asking here. I've trawled through al of the Moitie coats and vests and gilets, to no luck.
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>>8957865
I feel like Infanta has several navy blouses. Also check Surface Spell.
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>>8958429

EGA-77384
BEHIND LACE SWALLOWTAIL GILET
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>>8958555

Thank you so much! Much appreciated.
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>>8958429
yeah, i guess it's up to us to add them ourselves. if we can be assed.
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wtf is this?
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>>8961453
A Nouji
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>>8961453
>>8961496
>top kek
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>>8961453
illfitting Hamilton cosplay?
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>>8955984
i actually did show this photo to hairstylist.
now i count days until my hair will grow back.
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>>8962606
pic?
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Speaking of hair I actually want to get it cut like >>8955984 anyone got any hair references or tips?
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>>8962757
invest in a curler
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>looking at Japanese oujis
>pics are all low quality and/or Meitu'd to hell and back
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>>8963891
i just want some clear full-body shots, damn you Japanese photo culture
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>>8957865
do you stalk secondhand sites? what size range are you?
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>>8963898
It evolved from tiny rooms and not enough space to take photographs, combined with shitty mobile internet sites designed for galakei and mobile apps that output small resolution photographs. I don't see it going away any time soon.
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>>8962757
not the same, but here is a style tut for a similar look
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>>8962606 here.
My hair is a bit wavy so I never thought about iron-straightening it to make curls curlier in the desirable way.


Also
>I'm still feeling guilty over my rabbit vest.
>I did discover many cheaper brands that still look cool on taobao.
I want to scream a bit.
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>>8967465
Yeah, I do. I've been hoping something I like will pop up, but haven't seen anything yet. I'm like a women's size small, so most things should fit me.
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hey /ouG/ i heard you liked diamond harlequin socks

http://www.my-lolita-dress.com/japanese-gingham-overknee-lolita-socks-tr-1
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>>8969544
don't feel guilty, feel fabulous. you're halfway to princedom.
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>>8969544
Which rabbit vest?
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Is there any option to dress Ouji if I live in a very warm state? I mean, unless it's full-on winter, coats and such are not an option. Can this be pulled off? Does anyone have inspo images?
If it matters, I'm a guy.
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>>8973388
ouji is great for warm weather, better than lolita. will dump some simple/light coords.
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>>8973524
I am in love with the fabric and design of this.

I wonder who made it.
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>>8973529
not sure, but it is nice and clean

>>8973530
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>>8973532
<-fucking love pic related, like the EGL of ouji
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>>8973554
top left
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>>8973582
and done

because this is probably enough of a range for now
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>>8973527
Are those leggings photoshopped on?
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>>8973571
What do you call that type of pants? I'm having a hangover brain fart, forgive me
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>>8975824
I think they're called breeches but I have those exact ones and they go above the knee for me. I thought this guy was suppose to be tall, or maybe the mens cut is longer.
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>>8973529
http://www.lolitadesu.com/a-p-check-vest-in-brown-from-alice-and-the-pirates/
http://www.lolitadesu.com/a-p-check-pants-in-brown-from-alice-and-the-pirates/
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I'm dumping ouji from CoF
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>>8977705
And that's it unless I feel like scrolling back to March.
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>>8973521
Anyone know if the vest is brand, and if so, where it is/was sold? I want a few vests to coord with Ouji and other lolita looks, but I can't find much on lacemarket. I have one that I found thrifting but it has no boning and the part the overlaps on my skirt/petti area rolls up.
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>>8973537
A. What a beautiful person. B. That coord is on point.
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>>8977842
It's easier to find decent vests on closetchild.
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Poll time
>how long have you been wearing ouji
>how many vests/pants/coats do you own
>what is your favorite accessory
>your favorite brand
>what kind of print would you like to see on ouji wear
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>>8973537
man, life goals now
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>>8956094
>fujoshis being the sissies of ouji world?
just keep fujo talk out of meetups, especially ones out in public. and if you feel like a sexy bishie or shota when you wear ouji, keep that ENTIRELY to yourself.

>>8956097
help thread might have ideas, cosplayers often make hats.

>>8977667
CoF is a nonpublic group, so i am always uncertain how to utilize coords i find there. it seems wrong to share an image onto 4chan (which has outside sites that archive EVERYTHING posted to /cgl/) when the owner uploaded it to a semi-private group. it is common to do it, and we have a CoF thread that reposts (and thus archives) every coord, but it feels different than uploading an image from a public source like tumbl or daily_lolita's public entries.
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>>8979379
>how long have you been wearing ouji
almost a year, dabbled in EGA a decade ago and vkei off and on since then

>how many vests/pants/coats do you own
not counting offbrand (and including brands like BPN): 6 vests/gilets, 4 pants/shorts, 3 jackets.

>what is your favorite accessory
this versatile offbrand scarf that works as a belt, hat trim, jabot, and as a scarf. i wish i could say "my hat" but each of my hats is problematic.

>your favorite brand
Moi-meme-Moitie

>what kind of print would you like to see on ouji wear
gothic non-cartoony shit like the best Moitie lolita pieces used to get. Iron Gate, Church Gate, Silent Moon, etc. such prints are both elegant and gender-neutral and would really suit a unisex fashion like ouji.

pic related, like fuck, put this on my body. imagine a long gilet or jacket with arches and spires and towers and bats flocking up toward the waistline, in a color that matches the lining or trim of the garment. why doesn't this fucking exist
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>>8979379
>how long have you been wearing ouji
7 months

>how many vests/pants/coats do you own
7 jackets, 3 vests, 7 pants

>what is your favorite accessory
Rose pins from a bonnet.

>your favorite brand
Atelier Boz

>what kind of print would you like to see on ouji wear
I don't really like prints (my lolita wardrobe only has one print in it), but something simplistic or maybe just a interesting pattern.
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>>8977850
>>8979393
i think this is the same lolita in ouji again, sorry for the antpic
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>>8979379
>how long have you been wearing ouji
7 years

>how many vests/pants/coats do you own
About 20 vests, 5 pants, 10 coats

>what is your favorite accessory
Handmade rose brooch. Works nicely as a hat accessory or on a vest.

>your favorite brand
Alice and the pirates.

>what kind of print would you like to see on ouji wear
The typical rose, cross, bats, iron gates. Anything goes since there aint much of a selection anyway.
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>>8956097
Some tutorials that look decent:
>http://www.cosplaysupplies.com/tutorials.php?id=12
>http://www.instructables.com/id/Leather-Steampunk-Top-Hat/
>http://tombanwell.blogspot.ca/2010/01/steampunk-leather-top-hat-tutorial.html

I wouldn't use cardboard, it won't do complex curves like a nice top hat brim, and if it ever gets squashed you won't be able to reshape it. These all use leather or fosshape, though traditional is heavy buckram, which is reasonably priced and steam-shapeable. I'm a hat newbie myself but the friend who taught me makes /tons/, if you want more advice.
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Just want to give a shout out to all boystylers on a steady journey of self-improvement. I am deleting old agentlemandoesnotconga coords from my inspo folder because he's so much fucking better at it now than he used to be. Everyone, whatever your specific fashion style, please continue to mature in elegance and grace.
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Time for the weekly post!

>>8972684
Picture related. Infanta.
>>8972620
Thank you!

>>8970786
They're nice, so many colour options in one place.

>>8973530
These coords are so varied!
>That rabbit in a cage @ top-right.
>Please.

>>8973558
I love his coords and photos. They're always amazing. His photo with an Alpaca is my favourite ouji photo ever.

>>8980557
>>8977667
What's CoF?
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AatP has some new ouji stuff up (possibly re-relases? Lolibrary isn't loading for me right now)

>http://www.babyssb.co.jp/onlinestore_cat/ap/

Nothing I love enough to pay full price for personally, but it looks like they're still doing men's sizing, hooray!
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>>8985380
>What's CoF?
Closet of Frills, a closed Facebook group for sharing daily lolita (and ouji and aristocrat) coords. you need permission to join, so technically the photos are not public. i try to pull pics from blogs, tumblrs, lookbook, and such.

>>8988698
good to know! still too costumey for me. but at least they have not forsaken their broad-shouldered clientele
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>>8957865
saw this and thought of you anon

http://usagiyouhinten.ocnk.net/phone/product/17438
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>making a list comparing prices of some staples/filler items to flesh out my wardrobe
>look at different taobao resellers, most are priced about the same
>check out Bodyline
>can get one of each basic item on my list, and the combined total would be the same price as one item i want from a taobao reseller

wew lads, should i bite the Bodyline bullet? i'm thinking it might be time to give my cash to Mr. Yan.
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>>8993003
That depends which items.
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my-lolita-dress is doing preorders for 2 Classical Puppets ouji sets. i really like this blouse. shoulders go up to 42cm.

http://www.my-lolita-dress.com/newly-added-lolita-items-this-week/new-released-ouji-outfits-from-classical-puppets
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>>8973771
They look like blackmilk leggings.
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What is the general consensus on swallowtail coats?
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>>8996618
they are classy and awesome when they are good quality and fit the wearer. they are a boystyle staple.
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>>8996633
Was thinking on something along this line, plus generic vest, necktie and the pants inside the boots, dunno
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Where can I find dandy aristocrat clothing besides F+F?

My bf wants to dress up to match me (I wear classic and sweet) but does not have the look to pull off ouji and doesn't like it anway.
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>>8996707
that looks like a really solid coord base. some neckwear (jabot, necklace, or a jazzy tie) and a cool bag would complete the look. you picked items with gothic details so the ubiquitois bat or coffin bag would be easiest to find if you get stuck.

not sure if the pants are slim enough to tuck, but if not, the boots look slim enough to drape the pants over.
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>>8996713
Also I did look through the shop list, but couldnt find anything that wasn't just ouji or really gothic other than F+F
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>>8996713
>dandy
thrift stores mostly. "dandy" isn't jfash, F+F just uses that term because it sells.

aristocrat is gothic, which can make a cool contrast if you are wearing sweet or classic, imo. but if you want to match, what is it about ouji he does not like? there is such a wide range of styles (as wide as lolita), and many aristocrat outfits can also be classed as ouji (and usually are in Japan).

can you describe his bodytype and general tastes?

meanwhile, check out Elegy. they are a Western indie brand with affordable men's blouses.

http://www.elegyclothing.com/ouiji

have you checked Buttcape's spreadsheet?
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>>8996713
>>8996734
adding to this, though, if you are after 19th century style dandy, rather than modern dandy (which can look sometimes like pic related), try the LARP or historic costumes thread.
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>>8996734
Ah ok thanks I wasnt sure because last time I asked about something like this dandy is what came up.

I was worried aristocrat would end up clashing, but I could see it working along side classic actually.

Its just too feminine, I dont know anything about ouji and neither does he really other than what pictures we find. He doesn't like the idea of dressing like a little prince and the shorts are definitely a no go.

About my bf
>probably about 5'9"
>little bit of a baby face he likes to hide under a full beard (but not like hipster full beard, one that someone could get away with keeping for a job)
>pretty skinny, would fit into plenty of things straight from japan
>likes punk music and is open to, as he calls it "dressing like a pirate"

He just wants to look good with me basically/

I'll check those out though! I was thinking for matching with my coords it may be as simple as getting blouses and pants from like F+F and then getting vests that match my colors.

>>8996744
Yeah definitely was looking at 19th century instead of modern as I thought modern might be too off next to lolita, thanks for the ideas!
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>>8996744
However do you think modern dandy could work? He does like modern dandy clothes and that picture sure is colorful enough to match sweet lolita lol
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>>8996713
If you're looking for Aristocrat clthing, there's n Aristocrat specific thread.
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>>8996750
Thanks, Ill check the catalogue too then :)
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>>8996749
Different anon, but I'm a fan of modern/neo-dandy looks; it can range from preppy Ivy League looks to teddy boy meets hipster looks to Andre Benjamin's flamboyant coords. I don't want to post a non-ouji style in an ouji thread, so I recommend browsing Neo-Dandyism's tumblr and Dandyism. n et

I don't see how a lolita and a dandy can't be dressed up together. To regular people, they look like a pair of really dressed up people.

>tfw no qt dandy bf to dress up with

>>8996618
imo, they're hit or miss. I used to work in a tuxedo shop and my recommendation is that it works best on tall, non-bulky figures. As for anything, make sure it fits around the body properly.
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>>8996747
I originally really disliked ouji, but it grew on me. Dressing like a 'prince' doesn't have to mean looking like a little boy. You could be elegant to match classic, without going fully aristocrat. Take the colours of ouji and the maturity of aristo and you can get a pretty nice blend.

I don't know any other ouji who have full beards but neatly trimmed it can still look nice. Don't describe it as boy-prince wearing silly hats and shorts - that's one way to do it, but there's much more variety than that.
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>>8997037
Honestly he cools with everything up until the shorts.

He likes what you posted other than that and the ruffles on the bottom of the vests.

Like I said all we really know about ouji is the "little boy" look, but this thread has given me a lot more to look at, it looks like a good mix for him, that he thinks, is just mixing and matching ouji tops/vests with more mature pants and coats
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>>8997045
Does he dislike shorts in general? I hadn't worn them for over 10 years before ouji, can't say I blame him.

Ruffles and lace can be hard to avoid, particularly on blouses. If he's willing to shell out the money for Boz that's great, otherwise I'd probably look for Ozz On and h.Naoto.
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I want to get a shaggy short haircut like this but I don't want to be mistaken for an actual boy, wat do? Are there more cutesy girly ones?
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>>8997099
The way you style the same short layered cut is the difference in a boy look versus a girl look. I have a short shag cut and choose to wear it boy-like because it's my aesthetic, but a little hot ironing or whatnot would make the style feminine.
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>>8997045
>all we really know about ouji is the "little boy" look,
that is usually specific to sweet ouji, since sweet usually translates to looking more childlike (and not looking like an actual child, children don't dress like this!). you can wear mature sweet ouji as well--pic related.

classic, gothic, punk, and military ouji are common styles that tend to veer away from the childlike look (well, punk often looks juvenile in a mallgoth sort of way).
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>>8997045
>mixing and matching ouji tops/vests with more mature pants and coats
totentanzdandy (pic related) often does that.
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>>8997154
more totentanz
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>>8997157
and here's a super feminine coord just to make your man uncomfortable
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>>8997037
>tfw when i have a copy of each of these pics in full size

bruh keep keeping on, you are a mini idol of mine

make some videos sometime
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>>8997045
Aristocrat tends to be the more mature look, if we separate 'ouji' into how we see it in teh West, as ouji and aristocrat, with ouji being more the side leanin towards the more playful and younger look. If he's fairly slim, Atelier Boz's mens' sizin, and Moitie'smens sizing could work for him. There's also BPN (gone but, but second hand stuff still pops up), and some others. Buttcape's blog definitely a good resource.
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>>8997272

Oh, and in case you haven't found it, here's the Aristocrat general: >>8966666 .
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Stupid question: What kind of armwear oujis have when wearing short sleeved shirts? Some doesn't have anything and others wear usually arm cuffs or gloves. Is there anything else?
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>>8998534
wristcuffs, bracelets, watches, armwarmers if you go on the punk side of things. you can go bare too. whatever matches your coord best.
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>>8998551
pic related looks fine without wristwear
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>>8998558
here is gloves plus wristcuffs for an interesting effect
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>>8998560
and here is an example of what to do if you regret your wristwear choices
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>>8997166
T-thanks anon I'll do it for you.

>>8998534
most ouji I see leave them bare, and it looks fine. try to just wear a matching bracelet or wrist cuffs that really fit with the rest of the outfit like >>8998551
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Anybody have any examples of ouji coords with shako/marching band hats or mini hats?
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>>9000202
not much
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>>9001015
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>>9000202
don't have any examples but if you'd like to go ahead with it anyway, i just found a couple tiny ones.

page7.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/g172517029

page17.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/v458853125
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a H!aV comic for all the oujis and aristos who get awkwardly hit on by internet lolitas
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>>9001613
Link to the artist? Not sure what H!aV stands for but I'm very curious now.
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>>9001626
Hark! A Vagrant by Kate Beaton - I love her comics
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If I'm looking for info on "Boyish" style like Dansou is this the right thread? Or is this just for the boyish equivalents of lolita and it's related styles?

Sorry if it's a dumb question, not really well informed about this stuff.
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>>9001674
did you read the OP?:

>This thread is for ouji and aristocrat (aka "boystyle") discussion. Boystyle refers to the masculine counterparts of lolita and aristocrat fashions.

a dansou thread would not be a bad idea, start one and see who jumps in.
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>>9001960
Alright, I wasn't sure what falls under which category. Thanks for the heads up. I might start one if I work up the guts to do it.
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Where is your favorite place to find ouji suitable shoes?
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>>9004750
Tokyo Rebel/BtSSB NYC, where I can try them on and pay too much for the conveniece
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>>9002162
hng if you're going to make a dansou thread please do! last time I linked up fudanjuku nobody replied and I got sad
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new AATP, mens and ladies sizes
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>>9007821
set features another majestic taco hat
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>>9007821
spoke too soon, looks like the blouse and buttcape are one size only. the pants come in two sizes.

closeup of buttcape fabric
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Qi ouji: this taobao brand thinks it's a thing.

i think if it were a thing, it wouldn't look like this.
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>>9007896

Someone on lolita updates said the shop might've been going more for xxxholic-style cultural-inspired outfits rather than any existing fashion.

.......I guess I can sort of see it...even if I'm not sure I like it...
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>>9007821
That looks kind of tacky to me. Especially in the close up.
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>>9007935
well the model in the black ver straight up looks like a watanuki cosplay
that's the only reason I'd buy it desu
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>>9006430
Yeah it must be a slightly different demographic than you find in lolita circles I suppose.
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another mature sweet ouji made from a dress and modeled by Adel for Life's Sweet Essentials. Akira picked this for her fave at Under the Sea.
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>at introduction to jfash panel
>says ouji is inspired by Victorian fashion
>ouji model is clearly in a Rococo influenced style

just going to share a couple common ouji silhouettes comparing the Victorian and Rococo influences. pic related is closer to a fantasy interpretation of Victorian fashion
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>>9012536
whereas pic related borrows more from Rococo, by way of fantasy/history like Rose of Versailles.

these are each iconic silhouettes and even hats for their respective sources of inspiration, and many ouji mix things up, and not all can be identified as being closer to one period or the other. but these are the two most common ouji shapes/looks. just wanted to vent a bit about the difference.
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where the neckbeard oujis at
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>>9012540
>by way of fantasy/history like Rose of Versailles.
*fantasy/history series, that is.

i kind of like the occassional attempt to use pumpkin pants in a coord with other articles inspired by periods in which men wore puffy pants, like pic related borrowing a few ideas from the Elizabethan era. but usually, ouji coords tend to follow either the "Victorian earl" template (Cain Hargreaves/Ciel Phantomhive) or the "Rococo swashbuckler" template (Oscar de Jarjayes/Andre Grandier/generic pirate).
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>>9012536
w2c boots ?
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>>8975839
they're supposed to go slightly below the knee
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puffy newsboy hat from Deorart: http://www.cdjapan.co.jp/product/NEOAPP-41100
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>>9014076
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>>9014077
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>>9014076
why dump old coords anon?
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>>9014088
Because I had them, I think they are cute, they match the thread, and I didn't see them posted already in this thread.
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>>8955984
how do i find the ouji on those sites
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>>9014198
look for specific items. sometimes brands will list an item as "prince" but generally you will need to dig through each section to find ouji stuff. it's never in its own category.
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>>9014077
This is still one of my favorite outfits.
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is this pirate coord beautiful or is it just the lighting

goals either way
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>>9014082

Forgive the noob question but is the coat/shorts AATP?
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>>9018527
there is a built in reverse image search function on this board, newfriend.

using it leads me to http://aerynsys.tumblr.com/post/74352455336/white-rabbit-coordinate-for-valentines-day

each item is not labelled but it is a start
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AATP stop
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Bakasoseji and his gf make me also wish for an SO to share closets with, just a bit
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>>9022470
i would rather keep my brand to myself 2bh
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>>9022470
>not posting a full outfit shot
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Time for more nouji-aliexpress!

HAT
http://www.aliexpress.com/item/2015-Vintage-Fall-Winter-Wool-Blend-Beret-Hats-For-Women-and-Men-Embroidery-Imperial-Crown-Olive/32498865685.html

>All hats are 58cm
>I have 60cm head
[spoiler]Does anyone else here hunt on ali for casual nouji accessories?[/spoiler]
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>>9026456
anon don't do it

you are worth more than this
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There's few mediaval festivals in the upcoming summer so medieval and other coords that would fit there, please?
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>>9028154
what kind of medieval? i have only seen one straight-up medieval ouji coord but i did not save it because the tights bugged me.

instead, here is a sort of renaissance looking thing
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>>9028196
maybe this one?
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>>9028198
and here is the medieval one, tunic and hosen and all. not sure if it counts as ouji but it is what she was going for.
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>>9028200
vaguely old timey
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>>9028122
I'm sorry. I thought it was good enough to pass.
Could you recommend any better nouji stuff for this month, please?

Also
>I might use TB and SS for first time.
>I have 75 Euro total to spend
(yay!)
Any recommendations for casual or inexpensive full-time ouji stuff, pretty please?
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>>9028198
>Fidel David and his wife
Nooooice
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>>9028247
not specifically, but you can find hats in that shape without the embroidery. plain ones can be trimmed yourself to suit the coord; the design on those looks cheaply fast-fashion.

>>9028251
i had to look this guy up and although i am unsure who exactly he is, damn i like his style.
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>>9029134
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>>9029137
how did i not know about this dude
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>>9028196
That's just clown-esque.
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>>9029141
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>>9029143
probably intended to be, for a carnival/pierrot/jester look. it is not a daily coord
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What have happened in tumblr, I mean the palace of princes? It seems some of the members strated to shitpost but why?
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>>9034083
i didn't see the damage, but here is a cap of what happened.

feel kind of sick desu, buttcape has been my hero and i don't understand
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>>9034101
like what fucking drama could this even be? ghost's tone is a bit suspicious and bitter but buttcape and grimy (if they were the ones) did act like shitheads. what is happening, oujis are supposed to be lovelies
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>>9034103
>ghost's tone is a bit suspicious
and i say this partially because i usually get a notification when PoP updates, and it tells me who posted/reblogged, and agentleman has been contributing content also (but it has mostly been ghostin). i don't know, she may just be upset but the "alas for me" is a bit weird.
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>>9034101
When I first read about this there were also 3rd member mentioned but it seems he's been taken off the list. So don't lose your hero until this is solved.
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>>9034122
k. hoping it was hacks or something rational
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>>9034101
from lolita gen
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>>9034101
>>9034103
>>9034122
>>9034527
it's almost as if there's no proof given for any of what the first person is saying right now!!
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>>9034552
yeah.

well, for new releases there is always Ouji's Armoire. they have been pretty on the ball.
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>>9034552
At least some sort of shitposting happened, PoP was reblogging/posting some sort of SJW and feminist stuff few days ago. Also I needed to think who I had followed since the name was changed. So those parts are true.
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>>9034101
agentlemandoesnotconga was originally named in that post, too, and now it's suspiciously gone. I'm reserving judgement until more proof is offered, but this seems like it might be a setup.
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I always felt second hand embarrassment for the PoP people but this just takes it to a new level.
I'm not sure I even want to follow the new blog.
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>>9036443
i like ouji's armoire better because they tend to focus on new releases and professional shoots, often uploading new content. the coord reblogs PoP does are nice but can also be found by following specific tags boystylers use.

and Buttcape's blog will probably continue to be the most reliable source of info once she gets everything back up.

i feel bad for the apparent fallout between friends, but it does not involve me and i will never know which claims or accusations are real. it is difficult to muster a stronger feeling than that.
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>>9036443
Just curious, why did you feel second hand embarrassment for them before? I'm not sure I understood what you meant. I agree with you about their current situation though.
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>>9004750
I'd like to know about ouji shoes too.
Any places to order big, but not very big sizes? Pref without heels or huge soles?
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new AatP. not my style but not half bad, despite the same old trim.
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>>9036754
I guess it was things like announcing themselves as guests at a con they created, having merch with their faces on it and etc.
While it doesn't bother other people it always rubbed me the wrong way.
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>>9037910
To be more clear: an apparent lack of humility.
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My dude wants to do ouji for a tea party, but he has a beard. Should he shave it? He's one of those proud beard guys, ultra groomed and shaped. Tia
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>>9037958
The look is boyish so a beard kills the look. But if he looks good he should be able to rock it.
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>>9037958
lose the poofy pants and silly hats and you can pull off an aristo look, i only know of one boystyler with a full on long beard but i can't recall his name.

i don't think it's quite right to confine ouji to 'boyish' looks, and i'd be interested in seeing a well groomed beard with a long coat and pants.
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>>9037910
That makes sense. The selling merch with their faces on it was a bit much. Thanks for elaborating!
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>>9038022
>lose the poofy pants and silly hats and you can pull off an aristo look
>implying

Japanese oujis would like a word with you.
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>>9038169
both coords in pic related are marked ouji style. shorts, pants, silly hat, serious hat, it can all be ouji.
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>>9037958
>My dude wants to do ouji for a tea party, but he has a beard. Should he shave it?
yes. or trim it and shape/style it. or just wear nice clothes. an ouji or homme aristocrat with a beard is like a lolita or femme aristocrat with a unibrow.
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>>9038174
this guy's beard works because he
keeps it super neat, but even then many people may dislike it.
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>>9038176
another trimmed beard, this time with stache.
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>>9038177
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>>9038174
>>9038176
Goat man strikes again.

Beards can work if groomed, yea but I still think all these guys would be better clean shaven.
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>>9038183
last example. ouji or aristo, trim it or lose it.
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>>9038177
He looks like that guy who made castlevina
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>>9038157
Np!
I just thought the ouji community wouldn't have Drama until it had way more people.
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The drama continues...
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>>9040029

TL/DR 'I'm just randomly accusing people without evidence to make them leave PoP to me.'
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>>9040029
Here's grimy13's response from twitter.
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>>9040040
>>9040055
this comes off as collectively a bit salty to me.

clearly none of them are paying any attention to the group if they don't know there's been an event planned for AN for months, or they're pretending it doesn't exist. grimy's pretty immature so i could see her getting annoyed and reblogging kuroshit yaoi but the others are a bit of a stretch.
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>>9040068

If ghostintheforest wasn't kicked out of PoP why isn't she in that picture? She went to their event and AM, as far as I can recall.
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>>9040068
It seems really fishy to me, what are the chances that all of them collectively distance themselves from the event? I'm sure they would've checked up with the organizer before posting in public.

>>9040072
I thought she was kicked out? Is she still pretending to be PoP?
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>>9040079

She's still claiming to be PoP, hence the members making a point about them not attending Anime North.
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>>9040072
>>9040079
afaik she flipped her shit on aeryn for stealing peoples hotel money or something, a bunch of people ended up without rooms
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>>9040079
Animenorth did not ask PoP before using the picture. So that is why Buttcape is saying that, the only person who is in that picture that went is local and wasn't doing boy style. Notice that ghost isn't in that picture. She didn't go and was kicked out by then.

Gentleman posted on his Tumblr that he did it, mystery solved.
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>>9040100
You could tell the guy's a miserable cunt but I'd expected better from him than behaving like a child. baka senpai
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>>9040100
>Gentleman posted on his Tumblr that he did it, mystery solved.
might just be memeing

never trust an Australian 4chan user
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>>9040055
This isn't a denial, which makes it seem pretty shady. It sounds like she doesn't care what happens to the blog, but she definitely isn't saying she didn't do it.
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>>9040100
She wasn't kicked out of pop, just the nightfall event, for shitty reasons. Something about aeryn losing the hotel rooms for some 60 people and the venue, then kicking out the only person who called her out on this.
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>>9040100
Ghost was there at nightfall, they just pulled some mean girls shit and invited everyone except her to take the photo
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>>9040508
She was there as a paying attendee, not a PoP member.
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>tfw love ghost's coords
>tfw love buttcape's
>and gentleman's
>and aeryn's before she stopped

this will not greatly change my opinions of them. i can't care too much about drama when i will never know for sure what happened., especially when i was not involved and have no stake in the conflict outside of morbid curiosity.
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>>9040508
>>9040517
who are you that you know this
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>>9040526
pretty sure one of them is gentleman from the level of salt
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>>9037575
I would try getting boots from name brand stores. Plenty of ouji just use name brand dress shoes or boots and it seems to work well enough.
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>>9040504
She was kicked out. Look at >>9040193 that even mentions it.
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>>9040639
Considering what he did to the blog, I'm not sure we should take his word as gospel anon
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>>9040660
If you believe he did it why do you not believe his motive of why he did it?
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>>9037910
>>9036754
Tbh I've never really liked them because they came off as being really narcissistic for not being that great looking of a group. It's like when a person is the first to discover something and think they're hot shit and try to stay in the front as other people surpass them.
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>>9040722
Tbh I don't really care. It looks like she was the only one updating aside from a few sporadic boz posts that he made, and the only one still hosting events. Seems like a bunch of petty infighting that they should have kept to themselves
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this Susin release looks basic enough for boyfriends of lolitas to wear without their masculinity feeling threatened.
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>>9042947
>without their masculinity feeling threatened
kek
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yo so i was at Joann Fabrics and they have this seasonal decor set that looks pretty ouji imo. i have never seen decor that made me think "ouji" before so i wanted to let you guys know.
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>>9042947
>>9043376
No joke my bf is one of those, this looks great for him
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>>9042947
You managed to put into words why it looks so boring. Thank you.
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BIG POOFY SHIRTS: yea or nay?
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>>9047766
Yea! We need more Inigo Montoya style shirts in this world. (I could google the era...but nah.)
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>OC and selfposts encouraged

rate my (simple) fit, around late 2014 (loliday or something). Thanks!

BPN for Men Asymmetric Vest
BPN for Men White pointy shirt (and tucked in jabot)
BPN for Men Strap pants (adjusted)
Zara Men leather shoes
H.Naoto leather bag
BPN rings and pins
off-brand ring, bracelet chain and feather corsage
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>tfw no money for h. Naoto hat

why live
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>>9049492
What is BPN?
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>>9049492
coord is decent, fit is wrinkly though. and sleeves seem short. and hair needs something. solid idea just a bit off in execution.
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>>9049879
what is google

what are the links in OP

what is your deal, newfriend
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>>9049886
I looked at the shopping guide in the OP, didnt see anything BPN, asking was easiest.
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>>9049893
Black Peace Now. Went bankrupt 2013 (http://www.japanesestreets.com/reports/2303/peace-now-files-for-bankruptcy), now designers are divided into 3 others distinct brands:

elements,H:http://www.elementsh.jp/
Sheglit: http://sheglit-store.com/
Midiom: http://midiom-store.com/
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>>9049910
>Black Peace Now. Went bankrupt 2013
and Moitie may follow soon. reduced floor space in Marui, and now excluded from the GLB. not looking good for gothic companies.
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>tfw /cgl/-tan now has an ouji form

aw yis
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>>9057541
Damn and they actually look good.
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new(?) Pumpkin Cat ouji set, Beauty of Rose or somesuch
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What is this cloth thing called what you put on your waist and it sticks out on one side? I'm thinking of getting one but can't really search without the name of it.
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>>9060935
A lot of ouji call it a "buttcape" but you can also try some variation of bustle.
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>>9060935
some sites list it as an overskirt.
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hair guide from a previous GLB, posted by ouji-armoire

a lot of Japanese ouji have hair similar to this, but i am not sure i like it much
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>>9061266
however, this look (i think also marked ouji, but much more suited to what we would call aristocrat) appeals to me.

i would like to get better at gothic styling.
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Any ideas on how to style ouji-bangs for naturally curly but mostly straightened hair?


RN I have my bangs cut equally and it doesn't look good really good and straightening is going to be a nuisance during summer

Also thanks to ouji I did learn a lot about hair styling and appearance. It feels neat.
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>>9061266
I like it, but that style tends not to look good on a lot of people. I think I could pull that style off but I'd terrified of teasing and ironing my hair, I rather not damage it. Classic hair styles like pic related is what I normally go for and I prefer it for ouji/aristo. Much easier to throw a bit of wax in my hands and scrunch my hair back.
>>9061268
Center and left look great here, but that rat's nest on right is just goofy.

>>9061945
How curly we talking about here? Theres a lot of curly inspo in historical prince/king portraits. Slicking it back and tying in a ponytail with a few strands loose I personally think would work well.
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>>9061973
Idk, middle one seems to be the closest one to mine assuming I heat dry once in a while and not straighten. Maybe without drying it becomes more wavy.

Tbh I was hoping for something like >>8956094

I would feel bad without bangs altogether.
>prince/king portraits
[spoiler]They kind of, possibly are actual males rather than ouji. I'm uncertain if I'd like an hairdo for men and my forehead looks bad already.

Picking a nice princely hairdo is a such important part of ouji.
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>>9061973
>Center and left look great here, but that rat's nest on right is just goofy.
agreed. left is goals, if i can gather courage to grow my hair out
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>>9062476
Yea that hair would be more than fine with ouji, it's on the cutesy side but if using one owns hair and female then it's a safe style to go with for ouji.
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what is your limit on shorts length, /ouG/?
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>>9068688
i'm all for booty shorts but that eyepatch is horrible
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So what's the deal with PoP now? Also, anyone know any ouji blogs I can follow, other than the super famous ones (everyone who is/was in PoP, ouji's armoire, bakasoseji, etc)?
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>>8993003
Do it. Yan is fine.
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>>8998534
Generally I go with goth bracelets or a watch.
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>>9007827
Why can't I afford a majestic taco?
>>9018338
Definitely beautiful.
>>9049877
Me too anon.
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>want brand pants made with good quality materials that do not look like formalwear
>brands continue releasing pants in formal or costumey styles

i envy the range of options lolitas have for daily wear.
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>>9075111
bpn, hnaoto, ozz on
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>>9069180
check the new prince tags on pop, there should be a couple of interest
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>>8955984
just showed this guy I've been seeing what ouji looks like and he says it looks like yaoi or borderline shotacon. Kind of upset at him right now, especially since I dabble in ouji sometimes and I find the look to be attractive on some men
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Femme ouji here and I have problem with shoes. I think most men shoes look ugly and I can't really wear high heeled ones since my back aches easily. I have only one pair of oujiable shoes, similar ones in the pic. What kind of flat shoes would be passable and not too masculine?
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>>9076554
flat foot boots, flats, etc
Its not really hard just dont buy cheap shoes, tennis shoes, or orthopedic shoes.
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Excentrique makes really good dailywear type of options
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h. Naoto has oujiable items, under their Steam label I think
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>>9028196
Reminds me of Tonio
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>>9029145
>>9029141
>>9029137
>>9029134

Wow this is crazy inspiring to me as a dude with more masculine features. Does he have a tumblr or just an instagram?
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How many people here wear ouji and lolita?
Do you find your color/theme preferences vary depending on which style you're wearing?
Do you ever behave or feel differently in ouji vs. lolita?
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>>9085487
I wear both and my wardrobe is about 50/50 and I share most blouses inbetween. Most of my ouji/aristo is all black but I am trying to add more color, practically red, ivory and browns like my classic, print-less lolita wardrobe has.

I don't think I behave differently, I will say ouji is a lot more easier to move in though.
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>>9085487
No changes in preference for colors, materials, themes as far as I can tell, so like >>9085549
a lot of items I have work for both styles and I mostly find ouji easier to use public restrooms in and the outfits typically have fewer layers.

Other that being more comfortable, I act the same, but other people treat me slightly differently. The group pulls you into more photos and pretend flirts with you because it's kind of a novelty when you are the only one wearing ouji, and strangers always address you first until the organizer makes herself known.

>I like to wear my printed tights with solid pants and solid tights with printed dresses, so it's a great way for me to break up full sets that I really like but are overwhelming when worn together.
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>>9085876
>I act the same, but other people treat me slightly differently. The group pulls you into more photos and pretend flirts with you because it's kind of a novelty when you are the only one wearing ouji, and strangers always address you first until the organizer makes herself known.
I don't wear lolita a lot but I definitely noticed the difference. I've never experienced random people singling me out of the group to talk to though, unless I happened to be closest/not obviously busy. Curious why. Unless you're obviously a guy.
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Thread is almost dead. Ouji rooms. How do they look like?
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>>9087310
Very femme presenting female and people always use female pronouns for me, but you may be on to something. I go from "miss" to "ma'am" in ouji, so perhaps the footwear or comfy pants is subtly changing our overall posture to look more imposing or subconsciously making us feel more confident, which is something you'd usually expect from a male or person in charge? I'm also pretty quiet so probably not busy looking. In a dress, I guess this looks standoffish but in pants it just looks "in charge".

>>9090546
Mine just looks like a regular lolita room, but pretty lolita room pic just to keep the thread going.
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>>9090546
I know how I'd like my room to look, but when your boyfriend pays the rent you can only do so much.
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Can anyone post some good aristo? My inspiration folder is pretty tiny
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>>9001613

God this was so magnificent
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Is Dracula Clothing a decent place to buy a few affordable starter items? looking at a vest and jacket there, but unsure about the quality

I also read that they were a reseller of punk rave on taobao, but the taobao store doesn't seem to have the same items, is that true?
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>>9091488
not typically

>>9090766
EGA aristo or "ouji with pants in a classic look rather than childish sweet" aristo?

will post some of former
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>>9091892
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>>9091895
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>>9091896
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>>9091898
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>>9091899
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>>9091900
that one could also be called ouji, it is a good example of where the styles can overlap

here is a more solid EGA coord to finish up for now
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>>9091902
couple more
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>>9091990
and done for now again
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>>9091992

Thanks for the pics anon!

>>9091992
>>9091892
Top favs. Pretty envious of how perfect that couple looks
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