Things that need to die

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>>8923089
People still wear these?! This is a fad that died tok slowly imo.

This goddamn dress needs to be burned.

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>>8923089
These wigs only look good in deco or more OTT outfits desu. And even then it really depends on the overall execution of the outfit

Cosplay prints.

I will always see it as making a profit off someone else's intellectual property and tacky to boot.

>>8923199
do you dislike artist alleys at conventions too ?

>>8923201
Not that anon but IMO there's a difference between selling art and selling prints of your photos.
Inb4 "b-but pictures of cosplayers is art too!!"

>>8923089
People wearing wigs with fringes for lolita when full fringes really don't suit them for the sake of looking rori

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>>8923091
is this the infamous LM Hello Kitty dress?
The trend of attempting to sell incredibly shitty handmade items really needs to stop.

The general lolita dislike list:
- peignors
- madonna crowns
- oversized flower crowns
- split wigs (especially with non-matching pigtails)
- Tagging maid/fetish/other jfashion/nymphet "lolita fashion"
- bad shironuri
- too many crosses (controversial)
- creepy cute

>>8923435
Pretty good but you forgot trying to pass off normie vintage shit as lolita

>>8923348
>>8923348
why has no one called her out yet? this shit is milanoo tier

Fucking wings with coords, with the exception of those lace Baby fairy ones. It's not a freaking cosplay.

>>8923313
But otherwise people bitch about someone not having bangs.

>>8923479

What would you call her out on, though? It's not like she's lying about their quality to try and sell them, the photos are pretty honest, which is better than Milanoo's stolen photos.

>>8923091
>>8923348
bedsheet rori?

>>8923507
Not taking a hint? She's bren trying to sell that shit for months!

scepters and sashes. you aren't miss universe. stop.

'Trendy' lolita needs to stop. I'm ok with trends in general but you don't need to shoehorn every single one into your coord. I don't even need a picture because I'm sure you've all seen at least one coord with a peignoir and those round glasses and a madonna crown and a scepter and gold shoes and whatever else is currently popular.

>>8923221
As an AA atender

what kind of work do u expect us to sell
Anime companies sell poster prints
Bands and fashion mags
If we sold the original canvas wede loose out on the money from it. Id rather easily sell 500 prints of the 1 character for £3
Than struggle to sell 1 image for £200

>>8923784
Gold shoes are horrid, there's a reason people say they look like tinfoil.

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Cheap chiffon overskirts

I'm looking at you, AP. Why you have to cover print with those cheap-looking shiny things? Are they trying to hide the fact that the quality isn't that good anymore?

Asspats and the idea that concrit = bullying. That shit needs to stop.

>>8924131
I think you have misunderstood what the other anon meant.

cosplay prints = copies of a photo of someone in cosplay
art prints = copies of animu drawings

>>8924159
I hate it even more when the chiffon is longer than the layer below it

>>8923507
It's not Lolita though, it shouldn't be allowed but so many sales groups are so fucking lax

>>8924159
I think they look great with solids but over prints it's just stupid

>>8924207
Yes it is, it's just really fucking ugly. You don't need a quality stamp for something to be lolita.

>>8923089
OTT

I love it but I want to see more simple coords too! There's needs to be a balance

>>8923091
I am sick of seeing that dress on LM.

people 'ironically' using Japanese words, you look just as bad as the weebs seriously doing it.

>>8924213
>You don't need a quality stamp for something to be lolita.
Actually, you do, because a major part of lolita fashion is high quality in terms of both design and materials.

SJWs getting away with shit-talking maleness at meetups.

Fujos getting away with perving over shotas at meetups.

It's not suddenly okay to be sexist or talk about your faux CP fetish just because you're female. You know damn well a brolita talking about his loli porn would be considered creepy, and what you are doing is no less gross. Save it for friends who are comfortable with 2D CP; don't wear it like a badge of fucking honor.

>>8924256
I wholeheartedly agree with this, quality is super important. Sadly though so many brands have declined over the years.

>>8924256
By that definition, everyone who wears Bodyline is not a lolita.

>>8924263
Not really, some of Bodyline's items are pretty good quality and designed well.

>>8924263
bl quality isn't that bad. the hk dress looks like bedsheets. say what you want but a poofy skirt =/= lolita and tons of things "intended" as lolita aren't.

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since anon didn't really specify in the OP this is a lolita-only thread: pic related, these two need to stop.

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Here I have for you, the ultimate head dress of hatred.

>>8924173
thisthisthisthisthis
Idk about cosplay but this bullshit is RAMPANT in every lolita community I'm in, including my local one. If you have such thin skin you wouldn't survive wearing lolita in public anyway, so you might as well go back to roleplaying as a kawaii rorita-chan in your tumblr safe space. I am 100% willing to help out newbies but only if they're willing to actually listen as opposed to bawwling as soon as they get something other than asspats.

>>8923201
>>8924131
they mean cosplay prints. as in prints of your cosplay photos. also good lord you sound 12. I hope you're esl

>>8924258
I feel like this isn't normal in lolita. I-I'm sorry for your local comm, anon.

>>8924285
100% agreed

>>8924268
FUCKING...
I saw one at a cosplay meet and I gasped when I saw her makeup from afar CAN THEY TAKE A HINT?
Just ... Less.
They are great people and lovely artists but their makeup is horrible all the time and they need to calm down.

>>8924268
I agree with a previous anon. They really do look like they rolled around in dirt. I really hate this style of make up.

>>8924173
Yes! And newbies thinking we all need to be super nice all the time!

>>8923089
if they're styled right and are used right in a coord, I don't think they're that bad. It's just that most of the time these aren't styled, and most of the users are a bit ita because their coords are crap. So it's not the wig per se.

>>8924233
I like OTT coords as well, but I feel like they're becoming the new standard for lolita coords. And then some people wonder why normies think their OTT Sugar Carnival ringmaster coord with a bedazzled scepter and a literal carousel on their head is a costume...

>>8924285
it's pretty rampant in cosplay, too.

>>8924337
No, the wigs themselves are bad, too. At best you look like a girly clown, at worst it looks like a pastel Cousin Itt is eating your head.
Stop. You're not an anime character.

>>8924266
Deaigned well because most of their items are some kind of brand knock offs?

>>8924363
I don't know if most of their items are like that but that's one of the reasons, yes.

>>8924285
seconding the "thisthisthis"
Also girls (looking at you Lonlon Edwards) thinking that /cgl/,btb,pull,lolcow,... are SUCH MEEN HATE SITES AND IF YOU POST ON THEM YOU ARE A HORRIBLE PERSON AND NEED TO GET A LIFE!!

>>8924268
who is this?

>>8924393
Pull and lolcow are in a separate class of creepy stalking and pathetic jealousy.

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>>8924402
Guzzardi twins, if I'm not mistaken.
More commonly known as "those AoT cosplayers with the nastiest make-up" or "why do you keep making that face?"

>>8924268
>>8924421
>those perma-concerned/sarcastic eyebrows
So punchable

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The tragic thing is that they can look presentable if only they laid off of the OTT techniques.
Okay, the contour is still somewhat heavy-handed, but it's miles better than "dip brush in shimmery mud, smear on face"

>>8924131
No one was judging for selling artist prints jsyk

>>8924416
Yeah, this is actually true though.
But i hate girls whining about how all of 4chan and btb and such is meanies

>>8924173
>>8924313
>>8924351

Story Time!

>Get message from a girl on FB
>"Hey anon! I'm pretty new with cosplay and I like seeing your outfits! Could you check out my newest pictures and give some feedback?"
>Check the pictures.
>Cosplay is a simple one, but looks pretty clean. The pictures however have really bad angles and most of her posing looks awkward.
>Respond "Looking good! I like how do you did your props. I do want to give you some tips about improving with posing and the use of light in your pictures [insert few lines of explanation]"

2 minutes ater sending
>"OMG anon why are you so mean, nobody ever said something like that about my cosplays!"

Another 10 minutes later
>"Seriously, nobody else is saying things like this. Why would you do that? You should stop complaining."

Seriously, what did she expect when she asked for feedback? Jfc feedback is meant so you can improve yourself.

>>8924462
abandon ship

>>8924278
Is that choke lmao
She always wears stuff like that

>>8924462
No anon, feedback is meant to show others you appreciate their work and effort, quality is unimportant uwu

>>8924462
Jesus fucking Christ.

Fawn prints and capelets, deer antlers, and fucking fawn makeup

>>8924497
It doesn't make it acceptable, Choke. I actually cringed at that.

"I WEAR RORITA AND I KNOW EVERYTHING ABOUT MAKEUP UGUUU"

Just don't say that to people at beauty counters. Especially if we ask you for your skin undertone and you just stare at us.

Also, DON'T visit expensive makeup counters in department stores in full Lolita unless you know how to control your fluff. I will make you pay for the $50 foundation and $100 serums you bust.

>>8924268
Also in regards to this:
First!!1'!!1!1 cosplays.
Or cosplays only done for the attention they might get.

>>8924674
i'm pretty sure that stuff already died out

>>8924462
So punchable

Miraculous Ladybug

>>8924885
My heart

I really loved the 2D concept

>>8924706
>Also, DON'T visit expensive makeup counters in department stores in full Lolita unless you know how to control your fluff. I will make you pay for the $50 foundation and $100 serums you bust.

Anon did this actually happen to you?

>>8924706
I don't know much about makeup but why do the sales women always try to sell me some shit that's three shades too light with a completely wrong undertone

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>>8924421
To be fair, though, their Boderlands make up is amazing. I can see them trying to apply the skills they have in art to their cosplays where they look like, you know, actual people, but it just blows up.

>>8923463
I hate this one the most.

>>8924706
>i'll make you pay for..
Don't they have insurance? Lol.
I knocked a thing over in otome once and i profusely apologized. They were being real dicks about it though. I said i was sorry and i even offered to pick the pieces up. Then the girl wanted me to pay for it but my friend dragged me out telling them to send a message to their insurance company and when she insisted she politely told her to eff off and dragged me out and when i told her "what the hell are you doing friend??" She said
"They have insurance anon. They will make you pay so they touch double. Lots of stores do that so if you ever happen to do something like that again tell them that they have an insurance to deal with such things"
But i am an eurofag so...maybe it's different in murica

>>8924357
Not everyone here likes classic

>>8925058
not that anon but pink and blue wigs are still ugly as crap. I'm more lenient towards natural colours with pink/blue/whatever mixed in...But a blue and pink wig is automatically horrible.

>>8925074
>>8925074
They also tend to be poor quality and really shiny. Even if you're into tacky OTT sweet there are dozens of better bright wigs out there. I have never seen one of these wigs pulled off well

>>8925028
That's really interesting, anon. I'll keep it in mind. I'm in the USA so it probably is different here, but god, accidents are accidents.

>>8925028

> break something
> refuse to pay for it

???

>>8924278
she's missing a veil, ten points off.

>>8925230
That's the point, anon, other anon is saying you shouldn't feel obligated to pay because they have insurance and they're going to make a claim regardless of if you pay or not to make double the money.

I've never heard of this but it really wouldn't surprise me.

>>8923435
Agree with almost everything except creepy cute. I love creepy cute prints but it's hard to do this style without being pastel goth in lolita and boring.
>>8924159
Ugh this, they look like taobao stuff not legit AP.
>>8924173
I love when people do constructive concrit about outfit, i remember when people said to me some suggestion about a almost larme outfit, i loved the advice they give to me and what is looking not good.

>>8923199
I'm 80% this
A small part of me thinks that if done right it can make for a cool type of fan art
But then the majority of people I know that try to sell cosplay prints don't make their own cosplays.

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>>8924159
The overskirts AP uses are actually organdy, which is why they're shiny and not matte like the chiffon pictured.
I usually don't mind the overskirts with AP because they can tone down the clusterfuck prints lol. I wish they could be removable like what other brands offer though.

>>8924952
I have the opposite problem. Makeup counter fags always try to darken me up.

>>8925206
i'm in usa and i know when i used to work in a liquor store, since we were constantly surrounded by so many glass bottles and breakable things, we had breakage factored in as part of our overhead. i think the distributors we bought from would give us some sort of credits if we kept the top of the bottle that broke and gave it to them, though i'm not entirely sure. but i'd assume most stores that have easily damaged/broken inventory like that would factor breakage into their overhead, because accidents happen. our customers never had to pay for something they broke. neither did employees, which is good because i definitely broke at least three bottles of wine and almost dropped a $100 set of tequila one time and nearly had a heart attack

polite sage for ot

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Huge, ugly flower crowns like this need to die.

>>8925058
Not all sweet is tacky OTT clown shit, anon. Also
>what is gothic

On that note, obvious anime cosplay wigs with gothic are probably an even bigger pet peeve of mine than those wigs with OTT sweet.

>>8924885
Thank you
Its getting extremely annoying

>>8924682
what, im not choke

The fuck ugly gothic "nun" dresses with the high necks and crosses all over them. Hate it and it looks like a costume.

>>8924939
the 2D version really did it for me -- I can't really get into the cgi animation
rip felix

on topic,
Undertale
a majority of the artsy-tumblr girls at my college will not shut up about it [with some of them having not even played the game itself] and I'm sick of it

>>8925783
On that note, I hate poorly matched solid color tights like this. I think it's fine for casual, but nothing about this coord is good.

>>8925783
>>8926100
On that note again I hate normie collarless blouses being used. This whole outfit is awful.

>>8926092
While I think the cgi looks too kiddy at times, the 2D concept looked way too messy and LB looked like a five year old next to Felix who just seemed like run of the mill asshole misunderstood leading man. I like the characterization of Mari and Adrien in the current show much better.

Maybe the 2D OVA will be the best of both worlds.

Back on topic, Undertale needs to die. One of my friends fell in love with the character that works fast food because she does, too and it's pretty depressing to hear her talk about how this game speaks to her.

>>8926092
I really enjoy undertale but it's overhyped,as always a part of the fandom is retards that ruin everything and fuck, porn of it needs to die. That's just...no.
But on the internet if it exists there is porn of it. No exception.

>>8925783
This. I hate flower crowns jfc.

>>8926092
Oh my GOD I'm so fucking sick of Undertale. I felt sorta bad because my friend bought me the game and soundtrack and I just hate it, it's trying so hard to be Homestuck back when Homestuck was actually not terrible, and it makes it even worse that I now see it everywhere.

>>8924159
>>8924199
I like them and I love it when it's a bit longer than the actual skirt.

>>8926445
I think they can look good if small and delicate but wow that huge mess in the pic is bad...It looks like flowers piled on top of her head.

>>8924337
>>8924357
I think they can work for fairy kei.

>>8924992
Except it's not amazing? The lines look like they loaded up a brush with powder, slammed that shit against their skin and drew a line. No delicacy in application, no variance in line weight. I say if you're doing the cartoony borderlands thing, you have to make the lines look deliberate and crisp, just like what's on the clothing there. Their face looks like a shirt that got put in the dryer with a sharpie; a mistake.

>>8926767
to be fair, its by the dude who did all the good music for homestuck and it was developed while in Hussies basement.

>>8927611
I mean the inspiration is obvious, and I don't blame him for that or anything, it's just so "Quirky!" that it drives me nuts.

>>8927671
Honestly though, quirky shit has always been a thing.
But Homestuck's popularity has made the concept verboten