Old School Lolita Thread

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Kera Issue 37, October 2001

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>>8918706
Kera Issue 37, October 2001

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>>8918708
Kera Issue 37, October 2001
Wig advert

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>>8918710
>Kera Issue 37, October 2001
Meta

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>>8918715
Kera Issue 37, October 2001
Metamorphose

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>>8918715
kera 37

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>>8918720
Still Kera 37

Man the timer on posts is annoying.

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>>8918722
Still Kera 37

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>>8918726
More hair adverts from Kera 37

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>>8918727
Hime Cut wig, kera 37

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>>8918728
Boz, Kera 37

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>>8918729
Same

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>>8918731
If I say "KO" people are not gonna get the brand name from that are they...

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>>8918733
If it's just me posting, it doesn't ever get bumped up, does it...

>>8918728
Does anyone still use these? I think ringlets are making a comeback but I never see hime cuts.

>>8918744
I actually know plenty of people who rock it with their real hair.

What is your favourite pair of shoes to wear with oldschool, gulls?
I'm trying to decide on a pair to buy since the only ones I have that go with my oldschool pieces even remotely atm are a shitty pair of mary janes (and I'm always worried I'll run into a lolita when wearing them!)
I wish bodyline would restock their rhs!

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>>8918742

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>>8918762
This is more old school otome...

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>>8918744
not often. A true hime cut tends to be unflattering on a lot of people

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>>8918772
Pretty sure this is ancient ETC from 2001

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>>8918774
Miho Matsuda, Kera 37, 2001

OP...

got anything with platform shoes/ boots/ sandals
2001-2003 era ?

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>>8918777
This is from Kera issue 26, November 2000?

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>>8918776
more miho matsuda from kera 37. Sorry about the last one, do a handstand or download and rotate it.

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>>8918777
Also kera 26 from late 2000

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>>8918777
Lots of fans of Mana-Bana-Sama with those type shoes, still kera 26 (it's the one I happened to have on the scanner)

>>8918744
I have a hime cut.

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Kera issue 26, Nov 2001 Victorian Maiden

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>>8918816

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>>8918777
Still Nov 2001.

I can grab a newer kera after this one if you want, just give me a more exact date?

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>>8918827
2000, not 2001, sorry.

This is kera shop mail order, 2000

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>>8918777
In my mind every person dressed like this is a mana-fan

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Meta, Kera 26, November 2000, Left side

>>8918827
Anything with platforms would be good!
Platforms makes me stare down at plebs XD

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>>8918845
right side

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>>8918744
Maple sells hime cut wigs in the same section as their ringlets, actually. So I assume someone still buys them. I've been thinking about one myself lately.

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>>8918758
Heart buckles for sweet, chunky platform mary janes for gothic

>>8918840
>>8918727
>>8918710

Ugh I would kill to get my hands on a wig like that

>>8919116
Are there any good tutorials for oldschool style ringlets? I want to try doing them on my own hair

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>>8918846
Kera 33, June 2001

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>>8918860

Kera 33, June 2001

So I understood that white aprons with black main piece isn't a good idea but can I wear black main piece and colored apron? For example, red or blue one, or even black one?

>>8918758
RHS, I've a Montreal pair and a BTSSB pair.

>>8919327
Red or blue might look a bit odd (though I guess bordeaux could look interesting if the coord you had in mind is classic or gothic), a black apron will add texture and detail to your coord so that's a good option but I have to say I don't think that a white apron will be a bad idea necessarily; it'll make your coord look more maid-like and, consequentially, more costumey but if it's a look that you like then just go with it. As long as all the pieces are good quality and your coord looks good then you should be okay.

>>8918744
I have a hime cut too.
Looks cute with a pony tail as well, but every time I get a new stylist they double check
"anon, you're sure you want me to cut it like this?"

>>8918744
I have a hime cut too, although longer on the sides than the usual one. It's a bitch to get cut, like anon above said. I once had a hairdresser who straight up cut them slanted into layers after I told her twice not to touch them.

I really like ringlet wigs but can they be worn outside of oldschool? I'm mainly classic but I think it could work. Thoughts?

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>>8919334
Yeah, I'm into gothic lolita. I was thinking about apron made of nice cloth like silk or jacquard. Or maybe embroidered one, so it won't look like usual apron for kitchen

>>8919357
Yet another person with a hime cut here. I don't really trust stylists to do my hair how I want so I just cut it myself. I've been doing it since middle school so I've gotten pretty damn good at it.

>>8918744
There was a girl who posted on CoF recently with a hime cut wig but I can't find it now. If you look at Tokyo Fashion you'll see that a lot of the dark trendy fashion student looks have hime cuts.

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>>8919526
I'll try to dump what hime cut stuff I've got.

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>>8919529

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Posted last time and trying to improve but still haven't found a pair of RHS in my size. What's the best way to buy antaina, through taobao or a reseller? Is it OK to wear the flower headdress until I find the bonnet (I've been searching for it). And finally I followed one of the makeup tutorials and rag curled my hair but my eyes are still a bit dark even though I totally eliminated eyeliner and I think I just need to buy a ringlet wig

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>>8919532
What's your size, anon? If your feet are unusually small rather than unusually large I'd go for lolita-lola over An*Tai*Na as they're much better quality. Personally I prefer Bodyline RHS to An*Tai*Na, although you can email An*Tai*Na direct to place an order as well as using an SS.

>>8919534
Isn't she Luna? (the "living doll")

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>>8919536
Nope, that's Laur-an. She was living in Japan in 2004-2005 and active on old EGL.

Quite a subtle hime cut here, not sure if it qualifies.

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>>8919535
I'm a US 8, i was trying to find some secondhand since bodyline doesn't appear to have the ones I want in my size in owh anymore (the ones with the long straps). No one emailed me and I've posted in the wtb about a month ago and then again recently. I would take just about any used black/ white/ owh oldschool friendly shoes at this point. Antaina has a pair I'm thinking about that are 52$ on qutieland. Inb4 newfag, I am but I lurked for about a year.

I have kind of rectangular face. Would hime cut suit me?

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>>8919551
An*Tai*Na has loads of oldschool shoes that aren't RHS, look for some chunky platforms instead.

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>>8919573
This thread is an exercise in suffering as I try to distinguish true hime cuts from early 00s layering using only grainy scans.

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>>8919575

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>>8919590
Stopping there after the fourth bible because most of my oldschool pictures are on my mobile and I can't be arsed going through so many magazines.

>>8919553
No guarantees if it'll have the same effect on you, but I have a squarish jaw and I find the sidebangs soften my jaw as long as they don't get too short.

>>8919591
Not lolita, per say, but there are some ETC swim suits here (kera 33, 2001)

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>>8919597
Helps when I attach the photo

>goes to oldschool thread
>original content
Bless you op

>>8919596
How long are yours side bangs

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>>8919601
*sneezes*

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>>8919331
Where did you get the Montreal ones?

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>>8919602
Around chin length or half an inch longer. I curl them a little inwards too, not with an obvious curl at the end, but slightly straighten them in a curve with a hair straightener if that makes sense.

>>8919616
On Ebay. I don't have the link right now (I'm on my phone) but I believe I got them from the seller bathingcat. Be warned though that while they loosen up a little over time, they run pretty small.

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>>8919628
kera 43
april 2002

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>>8919644
boo. I flipped some of these using something that didn't re-write the way it should display...

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>>8919646
nooo that one too.

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>>8919648
Meta advert art

>>8919633
Thank you!! I googled them a while back and could not find a sauce

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>>8919649
If I could drink without it like killing me, I'd swear I scanned this issue drunk. I'll have to re-do it. Sad, because it's one of the like 5 issues I've even done part of...

Guess I'll go back to sharing stuff as I scan it after I go pick up some groceries.

>>8918758
I like RHS and basically any shoes that lace up the leg. Chunky platform heels are my favourite aesthetically but they're a bitch to walk in compared to RHS or lower heels.

>>8919650
No problem, anon!

>>8919649
I wonder what was on the video? Just a fashion show sort thing or what

Goddamn I love this thread, thank you for all the sweet delicious content.

Is it ok to wear 'non-lolita' clothes with old school lolita?

>>8919861
What clothes specifically are you referring to

Can anyone suggest some high quality mary janes? I'm thinking something like doc martens without the yellow stitching. I'd like to get something that lasts and will be comfortable.

>>8919865
Jeans

>>8919908
gr9 b9 m9 i r9 9/9

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>>8919662
Part of it was a fashion show

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>>8919662
More photos from the fashion show

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>>8919662
You could buy tickets to it, this is from Kera 39 (Dec 2001)

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>>8918777
Kera 40, Jan 2002, Shoe advert OlOne

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Kera issue 40, Dec 2002 BTSSB

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>>8919945
IDK. but I felt it was important to share this weirdness.

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>>8919983
I think this might also be in one of the GLBs?

>>8919613
I have that dress on middle left

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>>8918860
I have the all black version of this and the lace is all cotton and amazing. You can't tell from the photo but it's velveteen and the sleeves are gathered.

>>8919650
The Montreal ones are shit, don't get them. Try for Lolita Lola ones

>>8920069
It says one size, do you have to specify somewhere? Also can you choose the heel height?

>>8919865
Like blouses, cardigans, shoes, etc

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Just bought this old AP skirt on a whim. Saw the tags were old school and this hits all my old school weaknesses (except for not being velvet but eh)

Considering going back for the Baby bustier that seems to match. But it had quite a bit of staining on the lace

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Not technically old school related, but nostalgia related, my introduction to Lolita fashion was accidently stumbling onto Victoria Suzanne's blog back in 2008. Lolita Charm was sort of my "Lolita Bible" though my beginning years. I'd come home from school most days and check her blog with so much excitement and romance in my heart. I still follow her blog, but I haven't enjoyed any of her posts in years now.

>>8920459
My dream is to own something like this one day (that, and an old tartan BABY dress). One of my favorite elements of old school is the amazing lace and I love how white lace on a black skirt makes it stand out. It's gorgeous, I hope you enjoy it!

>>8920716
Tartan Baby is adorable. I love the lace on it too, it's so thick and detailed. If I dated the tags right it's from roughly 2003, meaning it's been kicking around for over a decade but it still looks new! The black is so rich, and there's only a little discoloration on the lace (which I find charming). Whoever had it last must have either taken excellent care of it or almost never worn it. I'm -highly- tempted to snag the bustier, but I'll think on it. Sadly the blouse I thought would match it is the wrong shade (it looks navy next to the skirt).

My old school goal is to get a couple timeless early 2000's meta velvet dresses, preferably in black. I'm a firm believer in the classics of the fashion.

>>8920736
Oh, and thank you! Let's keep the best parts of old school alive.

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Kera 40, 2002

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>>8920757

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>>8920762

How do you keep velvet dresses? I have a cat and a velvet cardigan and the cardigan is always in cat's hair and down!

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>>8920771

>>8920757
Bless you RD and bless your image labelling system

>>8918860
I love how goth this is, nice one Innocent World

A few people from the previous thread suggested that they were going to share some of their old school wardrobe and/or post some coords. Anyone still on that? I would absolutely love to see.

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>>8920774
I keep mine hung on velvet hangers with clear clothes protectors over them. I also very occasionally wash by hand but it shouldn't be done too often, dry cleaning is always preferable.

If you do decide to hand wash your velvet items I would only do it with items that aren't irreplaceably precious to you and have say, absorbed too much smoke smell and the other methods haven't worked - it's a last resort thing. I have hand washed in cold water with a tiny bit of detergent and white vinegar, rinsed with a tiny amount of fabric softener and then left to air drip dry hanging up. When the fabric is nearly dry you need to gently brush the velvet in the right direction so that it fluffs up and becomes soft and luxurious again. Brushing the velvet is the most important step as not doing this will ruin the fabric.

For cat hair, as well as storing items as mentioned above, always keep a sticky roller around to get rid of any stray cay hairs before putting them back into storage.

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>>8920806
Kera 40

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>>8920816

>>8919005
Me too. Damn those old school threads.

>>8920809
Hopefully your covers aren't plastic, that's what causes yellowing if they have white lace. I keep mine in linen and muslin

I believe Alice's look is very oldschool and I have a question about it. I often see it with stripy tights while originally in cartoon they were solid white. Where did stripy ones came from?

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>>8920893
In "Through The Looking Glass" Alice wore striped socks, and I assume this is where it originated. In "Alice in Wonderland" they were solid like they are in they Disney animation. But it's also possible that the popularity of striped socks in general meant people just wore them with whatever and the look stuck.

The lack of make up is what I like in old school style

>>8920893
If by old school you mean dressed like a victorian era child sure, but that's pretty limited and not generally the case with most coords

>>8920881
that's a good point to mention anon, although I do use muslin type covers, they go over the garment like an oversized nightshirt.

Is there any old school related video on Youtube, like make up / hairdo tutorials or reviews/unboxing?

>>8921057
There are quite a few older lolita videos like this one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AGJpV5A2OAs
and this one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6_O_W7BYD-E
There are more but I can't find them at the moment. If you're looking for newer videos there's also this one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8_LAvG6NjFc

I love this 'don't touch me, I can put a spell on you' vibe in old school gothic lolita. It's quite raw, wild despite all this lace and ruffles.

>Elizabeth red and white op nwt sold for $750 with headdress
Wooaahhh

>>8921057
This one is cute and features Nana Kitade: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=daUWU2C9yFo

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>>8921258
Angel Party Report, Kera 40, 2002

>>8921212
I find it so bizarre that it always goes for so much when it's been rereleased so many times

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>>8921263
Putumayo model channeling her inner mana-sama. Kera 40, 2002

>>8921263
Wow look at all the different events, a make up counter, puri kura service (or does サービス mean free?), mini teddy bear creating (?), tea service, brand vending area, looks so fun.

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>>8921269

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Kera 44, May 2002

When I was in my ita phase I was told that loose hair is a big no-no in lolita and I need to curl them or braid or do twintails/buns etc everytime.

However, I see many pictures depicting girls with just straight loose hair. I'm confused.

My hair is nice, it is thick and soft. Can I wear it that simple with old school coord?

>>8919177
Look into rag curls, tutorials for little girls if necessary.

>>8919340
>>8919357
>>8919497
Same here. I have to tell them at least three times not to layer them or try to blend them in with my bangs and then watch them like a hawk when they get to the front because the sneaky bastards practically always ignore my wishes and just do what they think is trendy. Nowadays I cut my bangs myself and only see a hairdresser maybe once every few months to straighten out the rest of my hair.

>>8921300
Sure you can. Some people might consider straight hair "boring" but as long as your hair doesn't look limp and lifeless, you're good.

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>>8921300

>>8919107
Where do you find heart buckle anon i have been searching for some light pink ones for AGES but i can't find some for a decent price

>>8921300
As long as it's done nicely, sure. Nice styled loose hair, yes. Frizzy unbrushed loose hair, no.

>>8919558
Where is AnTaiNa tho i typed on google to no avail

>>8921379
Taobao. They have two store fronts
https://shop35767391.world.taobao.com/
https://shop33988685.world.taobao.com/

Don't bother with a SS, they have someone who speaks English, so you can save money by buying direct from them.

Just email [email protected] with a link to the shoes you want + the color + the size.

Sizes are in Chinese sizing; if you don't know what size you are, measure your foot: http://www.rainedragon.com/getting-the-right-japanese-shoe-size/

and tell them your foot size in CM (like "My feet are 24.5cm long"), and they should be able to help you figure out sizing.

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>>8921446
So Misako totally said she was first in Kera in 2004 in a street snap in an interview!

This is from 2002! She was already modeling for Baby in 2002!!!

>>8921450
That doesn't look like Misako, there's something about the eyes that's different and the jaw looks wider. I could be wrong though.

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>>8921462
Caption says the models are Melon and Misako Aoki. I'll post the other girl too, one sec.

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>>8921467
I think this is melon

>>8921467
Oh wow! That's really odd! Guess she's been sneaky for a lot longer than we thought

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>>8921535

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>>8921539
Not strictly lolita, but I thought people might like to see this old school guro

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>>8921546
Old school Ouji, still kera 44, 2002

>>8921369
I know Antaina has some. I suggest avoiding real heart buckles from Baby though. I had a pair once that broke after only a few wears and refused to stay glued. Baby's shoes tend to be really cheap in my experience.

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What do you gulls think of these? I like that I could wear them with an old school coord but also the rest of my normie fashion and they won't gather dust sitting in my closet between meets. I'm a total sucker for patented leather.

>>8921568
I thought I just had weird feet! I got Baby hb shoes a few years ago and they broke on the first wear, I was devastated. Brought them to be repaired, broke again on the next wear. The Bodyline pair I'd had a few years previous had lasted infinitely better.

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>>8921550

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>>8921670

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>>8921674

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>>8921678

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>>8921680

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>>8921683

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>>8921687

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>>8921690
Popeye kei?

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>>8921700

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>>8921714

>>8921718
Ugh, dream dress on the right

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>>8921718

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>>8921825

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>>8919526
This girl? I searched "hime cut" on CoF and it was the only actual hime cut that came up.

I also searched hime cut on tumblr looking for material but it was 99% porn, anime and anime porn. This girl came up a lot, but none of her coords are oldschool enough to repost in the thread.

http://huberschwinkel.tumblr.com/tagged/hime-cut

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>>8921829

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>>8921835

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>>8921837

>>8921638
Baby's shoes suuuuck. At this point, I swear by Bodyline shoes. Initially, I figured the heart buckle shoes sucked cause they were a lower quality plastic or something so I parted ways and eventually got another pair of Baby shoes. This time they were made with real wood and leather. I was sure they'd be nicer. Guess what! They broke. Fortunately, shoe glue works much better with wood and leather so they've stuck together pretty well so far.

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>>8921840

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>>8921850

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>>8921450

This one is Misako too:
>>8921446

The name here is 青木美沙子 (Aoki Misako)

>>8921467
yup those are definitely Misako, I think she may have had some minor cosmetic work done as well which is very common, especially for people who go on to become more prominent models. I've always known the '2004' thing to be completely untrue because she appeared in street snaps even before she modelled for any of the brands, around 2001 I think (wish I had the photos). I suspect she may have shaved a few years off her age too. Again, no biggie really, this is also a very common practice in Japan.

>>8921901
>tfw you are the same height and blood type as Misako.

Wonderful.

>>8921630
The thumbnail looked good but the awkward ribbon really throws it off. Take the ribbons off and you're good to go. I'm not a fan of creeper soles but I feel it might actually be cute (depending on the coord) , without the awful bows on the sides.

Sometimes when I try to fit into old school dress I feel like a Cinderella's sister who was told to cut off her toe to be able to wear a glass shoe.

>>8922830
How old is Misako?

>>8921901
I'm shorter than Misako, this is a happy day for me!

>>8921300
You generally still have to style it. Model snaps with straight hair have still had someone style their hair, usually to give it a small amount of volume at the crown but keep it looking sleek and straight rather than frizzy, and often the ends have been straightened or heat styled so they don't flick out. If your hair looks limp and flat in pictures then of course people are going to ask you to do something with it, no matter how nice you think it is in real life.

>>8922885
I find I have the best luck with jsks.

>>8922856
>ugly bows
You're absolutely right anon, thank you for pointing it out.

>>8922897
supposedly 34 but I suspect she may be a couple of years older than that.

>>8919587
Does anyone know where to get UTKs with lace like this that won't break the bank? Ebay doesn't seem to have shit and I'd rather not order bodyline if I can help it.

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Tarot card illustration, Kera 40

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>>8923660
Kera 39

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>>8923665
Hello Kitty x Street Fashion Kera 81, 2005

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>>8923669
Blast it all that last one was upside down.This will max out this thread; Kera 81 again

>>8921276
>or does サービス mean free?
It can, yes. "Service" often means a freebie tacked onto something. My guess is that as part of the event, they had free purikura for guests to enjoy? I can't read Japanese well enough to be sure, but it says something about an original set, and photos with friends. So maybe you got a photo book for purikura from the event, and you could fill it out with pictures you took with your friends later. I'm not sure.

This thread maxed out on images.

New thread:
>>8923755

>>8921700
wtf?

>>8921687
I love me some old school but damn that's ita.