Takarazuka?

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>>8903348

http://ti-project.livejournal.com/

Have you looked into that?

Jpopsuki also has a few DVD and TV videos uploaded, along with mp3 albums, but I don't know if they've been subtitled.

I'm gonna look around some for you. And also for me because I am very very gay and this is right up my alley.

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>>8903477
>http://ti-project.livejournal.com/
Yes, that's what I was refering to when I wrote TIP in the original post.

>Jpopsuki
WOW, I've never actually come across this site before. Thanks! Unfortunately, I need an invite, but I can try to get hold of one.

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>>8903481
Goddess bless you, anon.

I don't know what any of this is, but it looks kinda like a Japanese version of Tanz der Vampire.

There is a YouTube channel that has full length shows but not subbed
The western fandom is so snotty with people watching the shows illegally hence the lack of widely available subs

I have several shows that are subbed on my hard drive. If I figure out how to upload them I'll return with links.

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I love takarazuka too! It's my goal to go see a show in person. I'll dump some pics

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>>8903496

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>>8903497

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>>8903505

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>>8903507

>>8903477
>>8903483
I've been trying to get an invite for ages. I had an account years and years ago, but then they redid their servers and I lost it. I've been watching their twitter for ages, but haven't seen reg codes/must have missed reg codes.

>tfw you just want to download jrock like you did as a weeby teen sometimes

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>>8903508
This fucking show

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>>8903512

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>>8903492
It is truely beauty in its purest form.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NEY0H5VVfXQ

>>8903495
Thank you so much. It's not like us gaijin Zuka fans don't buy the (overly expensive) mech, but we'd probably buy more if we could frickin understand what was going on!

>>8903496
It's mine as well. I hope to reach a level of basic competency in the language first though, before I go. I know that Takarazuka fan culture has a lot of rules, and I don't want to make a fool of myself or make locals uncomfortable when interacting with me.

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>>8903512
I am soooo confused as to why the hell this exists. Please Takarazuka, just stick to the pretty-dress period of Europe & Japanese folk tales, please.

>>8903353
//screams

I'm hellbent on cosplaying a bunch of different Takarazuka outfits, obscurity be damned. Already did this exact outfit, actually, because Elisabeth is my favorite show and also bless up Ayaki Nao.

As for finding good subbed recordings online, there's not many. Russian community is strong though and there's a huge catalog of recordings on VK. Group is called Takarazuka Kagekidan.

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>>8903525
Cool tip about VK (despite lack of subs)! Here, have more Ayaki Nao.

>>8903525
I'd love to see cosplay pics, if you've got them!

>>8903513

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bXxdER-t4BA This looks like it's going to be good. The costumes and the movements are brilliant.

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>>8903547
Bless up

>>8903549
A little scared to post, but, as requested.

>>8903558
That's absolutely GORGEOUS. You did a phenomenal job.

>>8903509
>>8903483

mail me [email protected]

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>>8903593
You're a star. Thank you.

I think I have an invite or two as well

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TACOBAZOOKA YOU SAY??

agree that there's not much subbed out there....there is a tumblr that's releasing just translated text of songs and things, which could be useful to read before watching (like us oldfags had to do in the days before anime fansubs)....they also did a full sub of the 2010 scarlet pimpernel, but it's a .ass file, not embedded subs, so you need the vid file.
>zukalations.tumblr.com

through the years, i've found a few random raw shows via torrent also, if you look around. i have a wao youka/hanafusa mari POTO and an older elisabeth. fair warning, quality is not always the best, especially for older shows. a few unsubbed random shows and revues were available through a fan dvd distribution group called curious violet (also did jdrama dvds)....no idea if they're still active though.

as a side note, takarazuka loves to do shows that were originally done elsewhere (kopit's POTO, elisabeth, and pimpernel being the most obvious of these)....so sometimes you can listen/watch the show in the native language first to figure out wtf it's about, then watch the japanese version.

also throwing in my marie antoinette costume for fun.

For those of you who who live in America and didn't know about it, Takarazuka OG are coming to New York this July to present Chicago at the Lincoln Center . Mizu Natsuki, Kozuki Wataru, Asami Hikaru, Wao Yoka, Yamato Yuuga, Takashiro Kei, Zunko, Asaki Kaji and Saori Mine are going to be present!!! We got a FB group for the event, if anyone wanna join.~

Their costumes are so beautiful, I can't even, I would like to replicate too many of them. MizuTod is my cosplay spirit animal hahahaha <3

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>>8903728
So pretty and well detailed! <3 Must have been a pain to walk in though.

>>8904248
I live in England, so I'm super jealous of you US folks. Hope you all have a blast!

>>8903495
Not to bother or push you, but have you found a way to upload them yet? I can help you with weird file formating and/or uploading advice if you need it.

>>8903508
Rose of Versailles x Lupin III?

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Okay 'Zuka fans - Let's settle this once and for all. What was your favourite production of Elizabeth and why?

The Moon troupe 2005 version is just so wonderful to me. I LOVE all of Ayaki Nao's facial expressions and body language as Der Tod. She makes the character so mysterious, aloof and enticing, with the edge of danger. You really understand how Elizabeth could be drawn to this Death and frightened at the same time.

Sena Jun is also fantastic as Elizabeth - She brings a tomboyish innocence to the role that other actresses haven't quite captured, and I love her singing voice.

I also love Luchini's voice and character in this production as well.

>>8904766
YES YES YES THANK YOU. I hear people constantly jacking off to Mizu and Sena's performances being the most superior, but they pale in comparison to the depth of character that Nao achieves as Death. And her vocal capacity! Yes, please, YES!!!

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>>8905390
Yeah, unfortunately I can't really get into any performance that doesn't have Nao as Death now. She defines the character for me.

So err, anyone make any progress on finding subbed shows that aren't included in the TI Project? (omg thank you so much TI project for all your hard work seriously) I tried to use zukalation's subbed files of the 2010 Scarlet Pimpernel with the copy that I have, but unfortunately the subs don't sync up at all.

Does anyone know where I can find a copy of the play that actually syncs with these subs?

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>>8904766
>>8905390
I think it depends on what your looking for in Tod's caracter. The Wittlesback(Sisi's) family did have some prior case of melancholia and her first loss was at a very young age, her attraction for death could only grown as the years passed away.I think that at some point in her life she found it comforting and her death themed poems unfortunatly aren't that innocent...

Unfortunatly the Snow troupe 2007 vers. is my favorite cast, Otozuki Kei's Lucheni is crazy and broken, Teru's Rodolphe is simply gold,Mirai Yuuki's Sophie is wonderful, she got the roughness of her personality, Ayabuki Mao's Franz is a loving husband confused as he should be and Tonami's Sisi is simply stunning. ( well for me at least hahahaha) MizuTod made me fall head over heels for her so my point of view might be biased at this point.~

>>8905733
Can't argue with Kei's or Mao's performances. They're actually my favorite renditions of Lucheni and Franz, despite Moon 2005 being my favorite overall production. If only Nao could play alongside Kei. That would be something really incredible, I think.

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I think I'll just keep posting suggestive gifs periodically until someone comes along who would help a sister out.

Thanks, guys, for introducing me to another production that these ladies have done. I am now rather obsessed with the song Yami ga Hirogaru. The costumes for Tod are amazing. I must now scuttle off to think of how to use these for aristo wardrobe look insp.....

Man, I'm so happy to see this thread. I've been into takarazuka for years, and I used to be pretty quiet about it because Takarazuka fans in the 90s and early noughties were honestly like the theatre version of crazy BJD girls, but it seems like it's getting popular again and I'm so excited for it.

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>>8906401
Glad to have you. And indeed, the costumes are pretty wonderful. <3

Unrelated, but I keep thinking lately that the sad thing about being a Zuka fan without a lot of disposable income is that I can only afford the much older shows and productions. So by the time I see it and get obsessed with an actress, she's already retired. :'(

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>>8906418
Wow, really? I haven't interacted with the fandom much at all, but from what I've seen the small handful of english-speaking fans most seem pretty chill.

(not counting the sheer anger and vitriol that emerges when there is the tiiiiiiiniest mention of file sharing and subbing)

>>8903593
Bless you.

>>8903492
There is actually a Japanese production of Tanz, just so you know...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Nm_gOzZMFA

The Japanese version of Wenn liebe in dir ist is great. Herbert is even more scandalous...

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By the way, you can see a video of that Nijinsky kiss here: https://vimeo.com/98415811

Y'know, if you just happen to be interested. I swear I'm not a pervert.

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PLEASE HELP ME UNDERSTAND WHAT THIS SHIRT MEANS

>>8903593

I think I missed a mail since Mailinator deletes emails after a few hours so either try again (I'll be around for a few hours from now), or leave a throwaway email here.

>>8904419
Anyone ever thought of making this outfit?

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>>8907389
I'd be too scared to try. I think I'd end up spending most of my life trying to get the lace ruffles to look exactly right.

If someone does attempt it though, I'd love to see progress pics.

What are peoples' thoughts on the 2014 Flower Troupe production of Elisabeth?

>>8907627
Haven't seen it yet. Too expensive to get at the moment. Ask me again in a decade's time.

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ugh, i've been trying forever to sync up zukalations Pimpernel subs on VLC with my copy but they just aren't working, bizarrely?? I feel so stupid. I keep fiddling with the track sync and pray that I've got it this time, but sometimes it just doesn't play at all???

Ugh. I'm posting this image to cheer me up.

Is this that thing that the girls school in Ouran was known for or something?

>>8907868
That girls' school was referencing this. It's been a while since I watched Ouran, so I don't remember if it was the whole school or just those three (or their club), but yes, this is what they were doing.

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>>8907868
Don't let those episodes inform your opinion on the great Takarazuka tradition, anon.

Real Takarazuka is even more outrageously over the top than Ouran portrays. It's a beautiful artform.

>>8903495
The channel I've found with some of the performances of Elisabeth only has some of the parts up. I'm rather sad about this, as I'm trying to watch them. So far, I'm really loving Nao as Der Tod best, I also rather like Rio's peformance from the 2014 performance (turns out the first version of Yami ga hirogaru I heard was her's), and I'd love to see more of Sena Jun's Tod. I'm not at all keen on Mizu's look from 2007. Oops. Within a very short space of time, I am now well and truly hooked.

Damn, I wish I could find the videos I downloaded back when there was a blogspot with lots of videos + subbed videos. I think I had Romeo & Juliette subbed, as well as the collaboration with Morning Musume Cinderella subbed, though the song lyrics were just the English one, not translated...

>>8903477
Not OP but thanks. OMG I will buy all of the fansubs. I'm pensive yet curious about Hamlet. I have a feeling it is very very different.

>>8903508
Oh shit I need ittttt.

Is this the thing from penguindrum?

I just want to say ty to op. I have another thing to obsess over. These costumes are incredible.

>>8907389
i've thought about it, since i have all the underpinnings from marie (i'm >>8903728), but not right now, as i'm pretty broke. marie set me back about $800 all told between the silk, rhinestones, and sequins back when i made the dress in 2010.

>>8908460
You're not the only one.

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>>8908292
Hamlet!! is wonderful. Get it and you're in for a treat, unless you much prefer stuffy non-musical productions from the Royal Shakespeare Company.

For an elaborate rock opera in which all the male characters are dressed as Visual Kei stars and female characters are dressed like 1950s rockabilly, it's surprisingly faithful to the source material. Unsuprisingly, it is now the favourite production of Hamlet I've ever seen, and I've seen a lot of Shakespeare in my time.

>>8908157
That's a real shame. There has to be SOMEONE out there that has an archive of this stuff, right? We just have to find them somehow.

>>8908460
You are very much welcome my friend. Spread the love if you can.

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>>8908388
Okay, let's get this out of the way before it becomes a meme.

Yes, Takarazuka is that thing referenced in:
Ouran High School Host Club,
Mawaru Penguindrum,
Only Yesterday,
Kimagure Orange Road,
Sakura Taisen,
Lucky Star,
Wandering Son,
Anpanman,
...and any other piece of Japanese media that features a glamorous over-dramatic all-female theatre production.

While we're at it, Takarazuka has famously influenced the works of:
Osamu Tezuka
Riyoko Ikeda
Naoko Takeuchi
Kunihiko Ikuhara
Yōji Enokido
and way, way more than I can possibly list.

>>8903369
Is this suppose to be phantom of the opera? It looks like he is wearing phantoms half mask.

>>8903495
Please oh please give a link to the YouTube channel. Thank you.

>>8909299

anon, the filename is the name of the anime/manga...

Can someone post the pictures of the dress they made to look like Empress Sissi's beautiful white dress withe silver stars on it. Please.

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>>8907474
I've seen a few people try to make the dress

>>8909299
>doesn't know who Blackjack is
I'm getting too old for this shit.

>>8909355
Not even old enough to be irrelevant, a manga remake for Blackjack had an anime adaptation a few months ago

Do people have a favourite song from Elisabeth? Yami ga hirogaru's mine at the moment (still working through a full version of Elisabeth I found unsubbed). From Romeo and Juliet I adore Verona, and the reprise of Verona. I love the German versions of these as well. I'd love to see a Zuka version of Tanz der Vampire.

>>8909711
I've always been really fond of the song that happens at the beginning of her wedding. The church organs and haunting chorus of the guests are so ominous. I love it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A3exdtXE-8Q

>>8909914
That's my second favourite one.

I don't know much beyond the basics about Takarazuka but I'll be seeing them this summer and this thread is making me very gay and very amped about it.

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>>8911725
Glad to be of service.

Speaking of which, I find it really funny that the vast majority of female Japanese Takarazuka fans (and the actresses themselves) are straight, but the vast majority of non-Japanese fans are... not so straight. I like to think that my sexuality is purely coincidental to the fact that I enjoy Takarazuka, but although I like theatre, I've never really been a fan of conventional musical theatre at all.

It's troubling to think I'm probably drawn to it specifically because it's an all female theatre and the male characters are pretty androgynous. I hope the other Takarazuka fans don't look down on me. As much as I like posting suggestive gifs I really do appreciate the Revue as an art.

>>8912426

I've read some quotes between girls and their mentors from within the Takarazuka troupes and stuff themselves, and it sounds like there's definitely a little bit of polite under the table Japanese lesbianism going on here and there, which surprised me a lot because whilst I'm a lesbian, I never really got gay vibes. It always felt very much artistic, but nah it does seem like some of the actresses themselves are at least a little gay, and most Japanese fans just have the pure hearts of young girls and try to pretend the attractive ladies are attractive ideal men with a feminine sensitivity. I think it's an interesting discourse on gender and sexuality amongst Takarazuka troupes and their fans, but it's difficult to fully examine things purely because fans can be secretive, and it's difficult to get information.

>>8912448
Do you have any links on hand to these quotes/interviews? This is pretty interesting.

>>8912426
>the vast majority of non-Japanese fans are... not so straight

I'm male and attracted to women, but that doesn't make me entirely straight.. I like Takarazuka since its deeply rooted in shojo I read and matches my enjoyment in wearing lolita. I have fantasies of a female in an ouji coord kissing me.

>>8912426

Isn't it acceptable for girls' sexuality to be more flexible in Japan? Is it something to do with father's preferring their little girl being with another girl, or that the men took all the cute boys in the past?

>>8912426
I think it's absolutely possible to appreciate it as the art form it is while also feeling attracted to the actors' androgyny.

>>8912773

You can enjoy a musician's music and appearance separately, why not this?

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Does anyone have a full version of the 2005 production of Elisabeth with Nao as Der Tod? She and Rio (from the 2014 Flower troupe production) are my favourite Tods, based on the bits I've seen of the 2005 version and the full 2014 version I've seen. Anyone know if the dvd of the 2005 production is still available, or at least the soundtrack?

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>>8913296

>>8913296
I have no idea about official merch unfortunately, but you might have more luck in Yahoo! Auctions.

http://www.takawiki.com/tiki-index.php?page=Information:%20Buying%20Goods:%20online

Alternitively, if you're not too concerned with the video quality, you can get it cheap (and subbed!) from the TI Project. The TIP uses recordings from Japanese televsion, so it isn't the high definition quality of the official DVD. But it's still very watchable!

http://ti-project.livejournal.com/10202.html

>>8913311
Thank you! Much appreciated.

>>8913296
Where did you watch the full 2014 version? Was it subbed or do you speak Japanese?

>>8912763
The samurai had relations with their wakashu/apprentices back in the day because they wouldn't get pregnant and it built deeper bonds for the battlefield.

As for lesbianism is today the general idea in Japan is that a girl being with another girl doesn't taint her "purity." Meanwhile women who obsess over male stars and yaoi are "rotten women." Unfortunately despite this there's only maybe 1 lesbian bar for every 10 gay bars in Tokyo and gay marriage is only legal in a couple places. Few politicians want to push further on progress because the national birthrate is so low.

>>8913891

Wasn't there also young male actors/prostitutes?

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Their Shakespeare-based productions are so fun. I wish I could see Hot Eyes without breaking the bank.

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>>8914558
Yeah while Kabuki is seen as high art today when it started it was basically a flashy front for prostitution. Today only men perform the roles but it used to be men, women and young boys and pretty much everyone on stage was available after the show. At some point the government cracked down and banned women and boy actors when they caught on. So that's why all the roles are played by men now.

Why exactly are all of these costumes so over the top and crazy?

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There's actually going to be a troupe of Takarazuka graduates perfomring Chicago at Lincoln Center this July for 'Murican fans. Doesn't look nearly as flashy as their other stuff but I'd love to see it in Japanese.

http://www.lincolncenterfestival.org/2016/takarazuka-chicago

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>>8914810
Why not?

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I am soooo jealous of the girls who got this doll while they were growing up.

>>8914938
A lot of those costumes look like they would be extremely uncomfortable to wear

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>>8914992
Yeah. Looks like in Takarazuka, you really got to suffer for your art sometimes.
(You think the clothes are uncomfortable? Try falling in the orchestra pit with all that crap on and landing on the metal music stands).

The all end up hella strong because of it though. There was an episode of VS Arashi where one of the OGs (retired members) completely owned the Pinball Runner game because she was used to moving about with a ton of heavy shit on her back.

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>>8915018
Case in point.

>>8914792
I mean, just LOOK at the preview for Shakespeare/Hot Eyes:

https://youtu.be/u6JPKsSexVw

>>8915091
no seriously I need to watch this NOW because I just found out that there's a dance mix of God Save the Queen in it.

A dance mix of God Save The Queen

I am too ready for this

>>8915018
Not to mention all of them corsets and hoop skirts and panniers and high heels and those big ass headdresses

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>>8914992
Would this be more to your taste?

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...I'm only posting this for costume reference.

>>8913891
Fujoshi ("rotten women") is a tongue-in-cheek reference to yaoi fangirls not for women who obsess over male stars. Yaoi fangirls refer to themselves as fujoshi for fun so it's less of an insult nowaways (like calling someone a "dirty otaku" on 2ch).

Loving all the dresses and links but can we try not to give explanations about the very long and convoluted history of homosexuality in Japan? Especially if you haven't been raised in the culture.

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>>8916602
Agreed. There are all kinds of resources out there (from Japanese people) about the history of homosexuality in Japan if people want to know. I have no idea how talking about MY personal sexuality and how it relates to Takarazuka ended up with anons generalising attitudes and origins about sexuality in Japan in general.

I'm afraid I don't have many pictures of dresses as 'boystyle/ouji' is more my thing, but I'll post what I can for you!

>>8912763

Takarazuka actually paved the way for a lot of this acceptance and idea of "class-S" love. I guess it's less acceptance and more a grudging sort of contentment with ignoring or trivialising lesbianism. Look into the author Nobuko Yoshiya.

am going to do a presentation on Takrazuka and if you have ANY thing that might be helpful, or anything that you think I should touch on please give me any help or images that show how beautiful Takarazuka is!

There are some pictures that show you scenes of making costumes.

http://www.takarazuka-butai.co.jp/gallery/#costume

Maybe they wouldn't what you want...

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>>8904766

I may be biased because I'm the most involved with them but I'm in LOVE with Hanagumi's (2014) version. Ran-chan is my favourite musumeyaku ever and her commitment to the role really shows. Rio is kind of lacking in the acting department but gives Der Tod this super cool and cunty flair.

>>8917569
wow thank you so much, I also researched about what I could in english. I must include atleast one english reference, however I think that some english sources aren't very well informed. I speak and can read Japanese but I'm presenting my research in an American school, therefore I must include atleast once english reference...

>>8908859
>...and any other piece of Japanese media that features a glamorous over-dramatic all-female theatre production.

So basically 80% of all modern anime.

Get off page 10!

>>8903593
I sent an email too, hope you got it!

>>8922122
I don't know what kind of anime you're watching to pull that number out of your ass.