/ouG/ - Boystyle General: Goodnight Sweet Prince edition

>from an anon in the last thread:

I did some poking on archive.org and you can find copies of buttcape's posts there:

http://web.archive.org/web/20150322060355/http://buttcape.blogspot.com/2013/01/an-ouji-overview-introduction.html
http://web.archive.org/web/20150602045148/http://buttcape.blogspot.com/2013/01/an-ouji-overview-part-1-terminology.html
http://web.archive.org/web/20150602052909/http://buttcape.blogspot.com/2013/01/an-ouji-overview-part-2-basic-anatomy.html
http://web.archive.org/web/20150602013630/http://buttcape.blogspot.com/2013/01/an-ouji-overview-part-3-where-to-buy.html
http://web.archive.org/web/20150323213231/http://buttcape.blogspot.com/2013/06/an-ouji-overview-part-4-headwear.html
http://web.archive.org/web/20150321235421/http://buttcape.blogspot.com/2013/11/an-ouji-overview-part-5-tops-and.html
http://web.archive.org/web/20150322000313/http://buttcape.blogspot.com/2015/01/an-ouji-overview-part-6-pants.html

And from her twitter: "Taking a break from online activity. I took down my blogs, but I will still be using Twitter and Instagram."

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>>8759520
>Also, I went by the fabric store today and got some dark brown striped wool-rayon, and a black-on-black herringbone stripe wool. Probably going to make a coat with the black, but anyone have any favorite earthtone coords for inspiration?

posting a few

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>>8761200

anon, no aristo, we had the vote in the femme aristo thread to keep it out of ouji.

>>8761206
the vote was split evenly last i checked, 6 for and 6 against. most who wear male aristo want to stay here.

i made the poll and posted it to both threads.

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>>8761204

>>8761206
>>8761210
in any case, what i would suggest is, rather than derail, when the femme aristo thread fills or drops off the board, its next edition can be open to all types of aristo. this thread, which has built up a discussion community, will stay open to all types of boystylers. no reason to exclude or chase anyone out of a thread.

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Can I see some good examples of Sweet Ouji? I just bought pic related and need some inspo

>>8761227
the last thread has a few, starting here: >>8756343

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>>8761226

>>8761232
Thanks!

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>>8761227
and now for something completely different

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>>8761251
>>8761260
am begging iw to release more solid boystyle pieces/shorts.. i neeed them

>>8761658
have you had any luck with finding them secondhand? i see IW often on different Japanese sites, but they sadly are too small for me.

I am a guy with an 88cm chest who is thinking about getting a Roland the next time one pops up. Is the men's size going to be super baggy on me at 94cm?

>>8761942
Get a mens' Roland. You need room in the measurements for breathing etc. I have a mens' Roland despite being a woman with a bust of 80cm. They're fine. The ladies size Roland also has a ridiculously tiny waist - about 65cm on the garment itself.

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http://www.closetchildonlineshop.com/product/90360

this looks rather oujiable, yes? and only 3,800 yen, with around 40cm shoulders.

>>8762883
That's terrible, please don't encourage anyone to buy it

>>8762883
It looks like an old man cardigan. Def not ouji-able.

>>8762883
Buy it if you like it but casual mens wear is not ouji.

>>8762892
>>8762909
>>8763040
thanks anons, you saved a life today

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>>8761905
nope not with bottoms, but I did snag malonica rose bustier 2 weeks ago on closet child (its actually really pretty in person).. pants are stupidly hard to find

>>8763266
Congrats! Nice find anon.

quick bump because we are being hit by a spammer and threads are vanishing

Anyone know where to find cool hats? Preferably like tricorn hats, but cool top hats would also be ok. AatP's are pretty cool, but most of them are out of stock, and I feel like most of the ones on Etsy either look cheap or are overdone (too many feathers and things, to the point that it looks silly). I've heard there are some on taobao, but I'm not sure which shops to check.

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Closet Child's men's shop isn't a reliable place to find boystyle-appropriate pieces, but sometimes pic related crops up.

http://www.m-closetchild.jp/product/61918

for anons looking to pad their wardrobes, especially man-sized anons, it might be worth combing through the site for vests, tops, and accessories. do not hold your breath though!

>>8765517
>sometimes
*sometimes something like

>>8765128
i have not had luck finding a reliable source. you can find inexpensive hats to use as bases on eBay, Amazon, etc., then decorate as you like.

>>8765128
corgi corgi is alright and a lot of things are still in stock

taobao, check out stores like r-series, infanta, surface spell, rococo-soul and cutie creator

>>8766269
everything is sold out here: http://corgicorgi.theshop.jp

from what i have heard, they sell out quickly. is there another source for corgi-corgi?

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>>8765128
peacockalorum (on storenvy, not etsy) has some reasonably priced tricorns (pic related) and mini tricorns.

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Fellow oujis, I need inspiration! Last week I was bored and ended up making about 1,5m long and 2cm wide lace. I don't know what kind of garment should I sew for it so can someone dump pieces with lace on them?

>>8766296
sorry, maybe i last looked right after they restocked

>>8766464
this is niceh though not sure what you'd be able to use it for

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>>8766464
let me see what i can find.

you can use it to give texture to a jabot, like the lace trim on pic related

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>>8766483
this neckpiece has various dangling bits, including lace

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>>8766488
AatP uses lacelike trim to accent their hats

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>>8766492
this bow is edged with lace

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>>8766496
cuffs and tiered jabot trimmed with lace

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>>8766501
this guy's got lace coming out his ears

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should i get this? or is it too grandpa and nouji.. was thinking of coording it with dark brown jacket and shoes/off white jabot and socks + wine bowtie and hat

>>8766793
i think you could make it work. looks pretty comfy and teddy-bearish.

>>8766793
DON'T do it bro!
I would personally take that risk unless it was like $30 for the whole thing.
It looks like it's made out of corduroy which is hard to clean, and also it looks frumpy as fuck.
I would do red with that color I would do a cream instead much like the teddy bear ouji that was posted a little bit earlier.

>>8767099
thanks, i'll try!
>>8767135
it's actually just a little over 30 bucks, will let you guys know if i win the bid

>>8766793
Where is this from?

>>8767265
post worn pics if you win it. i have a feeling an iron could make a big difference.

>>8766483
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>>8766506
Thanks for these!

>>8767279
axes femme!

>>8769778
okay, will do it when it gets here

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These are up on tokyoalice right now, don't have the dosh for them but if I did I would probably pick some up.

Does it bother anyone else that h. Naoto doesn't make his clothes symmetric by the prints? For example, >>8771335 bottom left looks bad in my eye since the print isn't 'mirrored'. It looks like it's badly sewn because of the print.

I know it's related to not to get waste fabric. It just would look better symmetric.

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>>8771380
i own a few h. Naoto items and enjoy the asymmetry, but i can see how it would be troublesome for others. to me it feels a bit like the screens(?) used to fill patterns in comics and manga, a technique exploited for aesthetic effect in pic related.

>Boz still has men's New Years pack listed as available
>consider buying it
>tuition bill comes in
>have to make a down payment worth 2 Boz lucky packs

being a student is suffering.

>>8771893
i'm debating whether i should buy it or just get specific boz items secondhand that i actually want.

i can't afford it, but i'm doing one or the other anyways.

>>8771912
Specific items that you want are always better than lucky packs imo.

>>8771914
agreed, for the most part.

$200ish dollars for a brand-new shirt, pants, etc., though, sounds tempting.

>>8772125
I read that the estimated value of the contents is $600-900 but that was for 2014 and may have been for a more expensive pack

Let's discuss! What would be the ouji counterpart of wa-lolita? What kind of clothes would he wear?

>>8774383
Don't try to shoe-horn these together. I've seen only one wa-lolita coord done well as it is.

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>>8774383
this was made for Grandpa Adel but i have seen no worn pics

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we had been speculating if maybe AatP was not making mens sizes anymore. it seems they are, as this popped up:

http://www.babyssb.co.jp/onlinestore/p11vt352/

rejoice i guess

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>be kid
>watch Labyrinth a million times
>want to be the Goblin Prince

>be adult
>buy ouji shit
>all black, blue, and white
>tfw becoming a childhood dream

anyone else's aesthetic influenced by a non-boystyle figure?

>>8776093
Casper in the 1995 live action movie.. I watched it when I was like 7-8, all I remember thinking at the end of the movie was that he was really cute and I wanted to look like him

>now
>my boystyle is all shota-tier gg

>>8776093
I'm just getting started but:
>lady Oscar
>Utena
Military jackets everywhere.

>>8776351
SAAAAAAAAME

>>8776553
Haha, I'd like say they're an influence on my character too. Recently someone at a tea party said I remind them of Oscar. I died right there.
Anyway, rose themed coords here I come.

>>8776239
Are you the anon that got the hair cut too? You sound very precious

>>8776703
no, my family is very conservative
>chopper waist/butt length hair into buzz cut when I was 16, wanted to experiment with hairstyles as it grew out
>shocked parents, dad didn't let me keep it short
I'm almost out of college now, and when I can support myself I will probably get a similar haircut to casper's haha! I'm allowed to wear good quality short hair wigs though (short grandma wigs are legit, the boy cuts they have actually look like jfash boy hair not kidding)

>lost over 40lbs this year
>one new years resolution will definitely be to wear more ouji
>turn 21 in a few days and apparently thats important or something
>please give me money

i want pieces that arent bodyline ffs

>>8777590
that's awesome, well done! keep up the good work and i hope your ouji dreams come true.

we're all gonna make it, anon

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>>8766461
I hope someone who'll get some use out of this reads it - Peacockalorum's large/regular sized tricorns are $60 if I remember correctly, and I bought one thinking it'd be worth the price. It's comically tiny, but not mini-hat tiny, the feather is pathetic and the brooch was meh and cheaply made. I also bought some bows which came on uncomfortable, plain metal headbands despite no headband being shown in the picture (so I assumed they were clips) and my ivory bow has a white center (the knot part of the bow). I'm terrified of confrontation so I never made a review, which is my fault entirely, but I hope maybe I can prevent someone else from being as disappointed.

The bow in question was pic related in ivory, although now I do see the ugly cheap headband attached to it. Either way, for a $17 headbow ordered in a specific color, I think it's fair to expect the entire bow to be that color?

>>8778395
thanks anon, that is helpful.

>>8778395
Do you have pics worn? I am curious about how small the "big" ones are.

>>8776893
any pics of the wigs? worn or on a wig head is fine.

>>8777592
thanks anon, i plan to! i'm a manlet with a small frame who can probably get small enough to fit in most womens ouji, and i am gonna take full advantage of that by not being a fat fuck any longer.

>>8776893
>>8778879
seconding the wigs, please. my usual hairstyle doesnt work for ouji.

>>8778992
>probably get small enough to fit in most womens ouji
mad jelly. i am a 5'6" manlet and have to stick to brands with men's sizes. exploit your genetics, anon.

how tall guys does ouji generally accommodate for? I want to get a male friend into it but he's at least 5'10 if not more. weight would not be an issue since he's quite a twig

>>8779034
people always bullied me for being so damn short, but i guess the jokes on them now because im going to be small, frilly and happy, and they arent. good luck with you finding clothes that fit, anon.

>>8779051
The thing he will have an issue with is sleeve and pant length. It isnt meant for tall people, so if he is lanky he will have to go custom on this stuff.

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>>8779051
technotropism and ghostintheforest are quite tall, pic related, and they wear brand. techno did an unboxing video for a unisex AatP robe (Chat Noir?) on YouTube and mentions the fit as being a bit small compared to men's sizes. if he is twiggy he should be all right, shoulders and armholes might be his biggest issue.

>>8779066
yup, getting into boystyle after having been bullied for being small and unmasculine is a sweet revenge.

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>>8779443
another option is to shorten long pants and sleeves if length is the only issue. tailoring long pants to be short pants would fit the aesthetic.

you can also get away with a plainer but fitting blouse if you have a good gilet. something like pic related seems to be hiding a lot of tall person troubles: folded sleeves, tall boots concealing the ends of the pants, and an eyecatching gilet (sleeveless Roland?) that draws the eyes away from the rolled-up sleeves.

>>8779454
sorry, looked like boots in the pic but it's just shorts and dark socks. the point still stands: tuck pants that are not long enough into tall boots!

>>8763266
there's a couple up on ClosetChild now

>>8779446
Ah I fit right inbetween ghostintheforest and agentlemandoesnotconga.
I haven't had too many length issues so far, but I haven't bought any Brand yet either.

>>8780080
Look at their pictures to get a feel for what they fit into. Agentlemandoesnotconga wears moitie fine, and he isnt that skinny for an asian. Ghostintheforest seems to wear attp jackets fine but I dont see her wear brand pants or shorts.

>>8779446
Wow, I'm taller than Aerynsys and absolutely nobody else! No wonder everything's long and loose.

>>8779446
I'm 170. I'm going to feel even worse about being tall and un-cute.

>>8779454
I don't understand how 5'8 is considered tall, everyone in >>8779446 is manlet sized and some still struggle to fit in the MEN's sized BOYstyle?

>>8781178
yeah, if i recall, when she finally joined the Roland club she had to unjoin because ladies' size was too big.

>>8781630
tall can be cute, you just gotta work it. i do not know the heights of other boystylers but totentanzdandy seems taller than siriusc at least, and he can be quite cute imo.

>>8781704
japanese brands have japanese sizing, meme-kun

>>8781630
I'm 170. I mean, isn't some height an advantage? I like at least being the same height as my lolita friends when they're all in heels. Feels more princely.

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>>8781727
>be 167cm
>wear heeled boots with boystyle
>wear shoe lifts
>wear wig
>wear hat
>mfw 182cm

this convo inspires me to make a request of our resident vloggers and aspiring vloggers: a good video topic is height/size and brand options. just talking about and demonstrating your own size and fits would be helpful.

>>8781738
170. I'm higher than most of Japanese men. I've no chance for a boyfriend ever. Too big for ouji.

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>>8781784
aw anon. ouji is versatile, you can wear nice fashionable pants even if the shorts are too short or whatever. in pic related, the styles at the bottom say "Ouji Style" and "Ouji style in previous issues," and the look with long pants can work well for tall folk.

additionally, famous ouji technotropism is your height and makes it work imo.

cannot help with the boyfriend situation ofc

>>8781874
bottom right to be specific

>>8781704
It's a girl fashion, men's size is only s bit bigger and Asians are short.

>>8781709
The sleeves are too long on her.

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>>8781784
actually, even ghostintheforest is taller than you. pic related. you are fine, just avoid tiny brands and buy men's sizes when possible.

>>8781885
Which brands are considered tiny and which ones are considered normal or big? I'm curious. Additionally, despite being tall I can fit into most of big and medium sizes. How do I know if they're really fitting me and when I'm stuffing myself into too small clothes? I don't want to spend any more money just to end up being nouji in ill fitted clothes.

>>8781874
Uh, he's much taller than 1.7m
I'm a bit taller than that and he stands way over me.
I have no idea how he pulls it off, maybe because he's so skinny. Anyway you can always modify things and you don't have to use exclusively brand pants, for example. Especially if you're more aristo.
Shit anon, 170cm is barely 5'7" and that's just beginning to be slightly tall. Only insecure manlets would care.

on the subject of size, this street snap features someone 170cm wearing "gosu ouji" (gothic ouji), with a brand list of each item: >>8783070

street snaps often have model height info as well as brand names for different items. think creatively anons!

>>8783776
>170
*173, why does 170 keep rattling in my head

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>>8781784
tall girls are top tier

>>8779454
178cm
>>8781885
175cm

pic related is 170~

>>8761212
pretty sure this guy was 180

>>8781784
I'm the same height and wear ouji. I fit it pretty well, the men sizing is usually too big for me too.
I also have a boyfriend, don't get discouraged.

>>8784007
sauce/closeup of that rossette?

175cm, 75/64/86 measurement female here who fits into lady's sizes fine. Atelier Boz's lady's fits perfect even though the waist part somewhat starts to sit on my lower ribcage. I have yet to buy brand pants though and I am worried those might hit my hips and not fit.

Planning on buying a AaTP jacket soon and hoping it'll fit. The sizing seems larger than Boz.

>>8785083
Boz tends to be wider in the shoulders, i have found, but that is in their mens sizes.

a lot of brand pants in ladies sizes seem to be around 90cm at the waist, so i think you will be all right.

It's finally getting colder and snowier so pictures of winter ouji coords are welcome

>>8785083
Don't worry about your hips, worry about the length. Depending on my weight, my hips are 88-90cm (although mostly butt, so somewhat squishier than a wide pelvis) and I haven't had any trouble with brand pants. I'm only 158cm though and find the inseam and rise good on me, so I guess watch out for that if you're planning to get long pants not shorts

>>8785696
(snouji?)

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winter-themed or winter-wear?

>>8786830
meant to reply to >>8785696

>>8786758
kek

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What do you guys think of this bodyline set?

>>8786847
i don't like the shiny ribbon.

>be at lolita meetup
>girl in ouji calls herself a "sexy shota seme"

Are fujoshi the sissies of the ouji world?

>>8786830
Both are good

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>>8786937
k

christmas is over but have another coord anyway

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>>8787279
on the right

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>>8787280
velvet(een)/velour in rich colors feel very wintery imo

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>>8787282
fur too, though this one has a silly feel

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>>8787284

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>>8787288
also capes! i like the look of a short cape over a coat for dressier occasions

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>>8787290
a long cape over long coat can also be quite warm, but i am not sure it works outside of gothic looks

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>>8787295

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>>8787297
winter is also a good time to bring out more historic-inspired wear with richer fabrics

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>>8787302

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>>8787307
also try mixing textures in lots of layers

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>>8787308
deer can be a good theme for winter imo

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>>8787310
i do not like this cape but whay's underneath is good

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>>8787313
>whay's
*what's

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>>8787314

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>>8787318

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>>8787320

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>>8787324

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>>8787327
tartan tartan tartan

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>>8787330

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>>8787340
i like white in winter, especially with either red or metallic accents. not sure why, probably something about christmas and snow.

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>I want to buy something with Christmas money.
>After few hours going throught the few shops I have bookmarked I remembered the pain of buying ouji.
Maybe I'll try lolita? The only piece I found and liked has missing buttons and yellow stains and is very casual.

>>8789068
Link if anyone's interested
http://www.maidenclothing.net/s/search/detail.php?id=154061496001

>>8786867
>"sexy shota seme"
>fujoshi the sissies of the ouji world
I have to remember this.

>>8786847
Some of Bodyline lolita shirts look as if they were good for black&white butler-kei ouji.

>>8789068
i was checking out Deorart's English shop today. http://www.cdjapan.co.jp/products?term.brand_id=100000102&term.media=APPAREL&opt.is_group_default=1&order=new&page=1

they are a brand that consistently releases items labelled "ouji" that are often overlooked, and they have a wide range of sizes (small around 34cm shoulders i think, large around 41cm+) and items under $100. they release more punk than ouji but i thought you might find them worth checking out.

what is your ideal ouji "look"?

>>8786867
forget what the words themselves "really mean." if someone in my comm or on FB describes themselves as a shota, does this mean they probably like shotacon? or is there another meaning that became common among young women who are professed fujoshi?

i do not know whether to feel creeped out or not when a female boystyler uses words like seme/uke or shota to describe their look. i am hoping it is like when lolitas call themselves lolis, that is a playful thing, not related to porn, and therefore not an indication that they are getting off on the idea of little boys being sexy.

>>8790858
they probably just mean that they look like a young boy, not that they're into shota. (probably)

How hard is it to get into it if you're 5'10" 210 lbs? No, I'm not fat.

>>8790939
depends on your measurements. wide shoulders will have trouble fitting into brand blouses and jackets, a wide waist or long rise could impair your ability to wear brand shorts or pants. read upthread for discussions of height, and visit here to get an idea of what different-heighted boystylers look like: http://palaceofprinces.tumblr.com/MeetthePrinces

most brands are made for slim Japanese-sized people, but some Taobao brands do custom sizing.

>>8790942
Fuck, yeah I would probably have to tailor just about everything. Guess I ain't cut out, girlfriend wanted me to get into it, and I'm interested, but I'm probably not slim enough.

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>>8790939
Sure.

>>8790955
Brother, I'm into bodybuilding/power lifting, not sitting on the couch and eating cheetos. I didn't specify though, so you got me there.

>>8790956
That means you should try to get things custom made for your shoulders and chest, and rely on open coats for brand main pieces. You're tall and presumably muscular, so an aristo look is better than cutesy ouji would be.
Do you have a pair of quality black trousers?
If you were fat, your situation would be completely different. You can afford to wear form fitting stuff, but your chest, shoulders, and (praise Brodin) thighs will be your limiting factor, rather than fat people, who have most trouble with waist.
Check out fanplusfriend.

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>>8790956
if you are thick, cutesy ouji may not work, but historic-inspired ouji like pic related could. look to historic men's fashions and use brand accessories to accent.

aristocrat could also work, but it relies a lot on drape for its silhouette. either way, fan+friend is a good place to start like the other anon said

What does the rest of ouG think of coords without hats?
I used to be militantly pro-hat, but v-kei changed my mind.

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>>8791013
perfectly fine. Mana seldom wears them

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>>8791032
and ouji itself is good hatless as well

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>>8791034
Must have that vest! w2c?!
Byakuya-san in nice fit as always

inspo pic

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>>8776893
>>8778879
>>8778992
I've been moving around a lot and most of my grandma wigs have been missing, but I did manage to find this prisila one thttp://www.prisila.jp/products/detail.php?product_id=1726 in NA and this is very similar to my raquel welch granny wig that I have misplaced (also prisila cost much less with similar quality, though raquel welch is thinner and more everyday i guess, this prisila wig is like full on gyaruo/host hair but still looks real) I took pics from different angles/lighting for your reference, hope this helps!

>>8766793
>>8767099
>>8769778
>>8769997
>mfw when i was teddy bear ouji
here is a pic of the salo worn on the last panel of the collage! it fits really well on me and the fabric is surprisingly soft, its not rough but is sturdy with a soft texture. most of axes femme's stuff has some boob cut though, just so you know (didn't have my binder with me, was wearing sports bra) but there is a waist tie at the back to tighten things up as well.

>>8791309
not sure, but it is similar in style to Boz or BPN vests.

>>8791523
this looks really good anon! glad you went for it.

>>8791523
Oh it looks really good, suits you well

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>>8789095
I'm the anon that always takes ages to respond, forgive me, please!

So right now I'm collecting casual ouji and at the same time I'm aiming to collect clothes with kuroshitsuji-look (simple-ouji?).
>>8761314
>>8761309
>>8761305
>>8761272

But at the same time I love the 'mad-hatter' look with prints and accesories but it's much harder to coord with beginners wardrobe & costs more.

Def I'd avoid anything that leans towards aristo.

Sorry if I'm babbling! I guess I'm too new and too poor to know exactly what I want.

>>8787308
are these pants over pants
yuck

>>8793508
No its shorts, socks, boots.

>>8791526
>>8791541
thanks!

>>8793754
Oh right, my bad.
The sock's texture looks a bit off compared to the rest of the coord still. (Everything else is awesome)

>>8794911
really? I ask friends about their dds, so when I'm bored or looking at auctions I can keep an eye out..? My circle of lolita friends do the same, whether it's for cardigans or specific blouses

>>8794917
anon are you drunk

Does any one know of tags to find more every day tomboyish jfashion type of outfits? I used to see a lot scrolling tumblr but nothing was ever tagged.

>>8795023
wtf? I posted this in that daily challenge thread. I dont even frequent this thread?

>>8795690
that would be worth its own thread. i can share casual ouji and EGA but they are not tomboyish in the way you mean.

however, a thread for what you describe could be fun. we have had dansou threads before, so there should be an anon or two who would have an idea where to point you.

>>8795715
>I dont even frequent this thread?
so how are you here now?

>>8795720
You know when you scroll down... and you go past other threads..?

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>>8795722
i do not browse that way, i forgot the catalog isn't default for everyone.

anyway you must have scrolled a bit too far in the wrong direction when replying initially. i don't think 4chan's software allows for ninja-moving someone's post to another thread. somehow you came to us, and we welcome you.

>>8792640
I did overdo my post didn't I?

>>8792640
cool! have you put together a coord yet? I'm guessing you're edging towards a more classic ouji style?

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>>8796381
No full coord yet, I'm still missing some pieces. I'm really hyped for completing a whole thing.

>classic ouji style
I know how to name this now! Thank you. Is there a name for a bit more the style that looks like >>8792640>>8787310>>8761314 ?
>Also update about hairdo from 2 threads ago.
I got hairdo; but it's more of a bob cut than ouji cut, it's generally ok but I might try to wait how it'll look after hair will regrow a bit and maybe try to make it more bouncy?

>my prev post was all weirdly formated?

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>>8797652
they are closer to sweet and classic ouji than gothic. the first two are a bit OTT, and all three are definitely more princely feeling, the way hime lolita has a more dressed-up/royal feel than non-hime.

pic related has an example of "sweet ouji" on the left, with more examples below it. you can have sweet in dark or muted colors or jewel tones; what separates it from "classic ouji" (examples in lower right of >>8781874) are the motifs in prints, the playful or "younger" look.

but this is open to interpretation and discussion. i have never seen anyone discuss these 2 scans and what they mean for ouji substyles, if anything. a lot of people seem to think sweet ouji means pastels and girly motifs, but to me the playing cards, Mad Hatterness, florals, as well as the shape (shorter or poofier) mark them as closer to sweet.

but also fairly close to classic. if you want to define your style, perhaps "sweet-classic ouji" would get the least disagreement.

Anybody have any tips/examples of how to combine navy and black in an ouji coord? Is it ok to do?

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>>8797972
yes. the trick is to make sure it looks purposeful rather than accidental. if you have a piece that has both navy and black, like a pinstripe pattern, that will help. otherwise, maybe make sure your blacks are true and will not photograph as navy.

pic related, i cannot tell which pieces are black or navy depending on the pic. if the blacks were darker, and the legwear less bright, it might look more cohesive. (it is her first ouji coord and this is a nitpick, it's not nouji at all to me, just an illustration of a black x navy coord that almost works.)

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>>8798093
sorry for small low res image, but here, the colors are more clearly marked. the navy blouse has a clearly black jabot and trim. you can tell there are 2 distinct colors complementing each other.

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>>8798099
an EGA example, where the blouse has both black and navy, very distinct.

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>>8798112
a sweet example with different patterns breaking up the blocks of black, including a navy plaid.

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>>8797929
Thank you a lot! It's really helpful.

>>8797972
I'll join the question; I'd like to buy
http://world.taobao.com/item/42406762441.htm?spm=a312a.7728556.2015080705.15.7NFRmj&id=42406762441&scm=1007.12006.12548.i17065673521&pvid=46f993be-f111-41e7-b25c-14db9e9933b0
Would it go well with a white blouse and over knees black pants?

>RIPrinceclothes my whole savings for this year 2016-2016, but I don't think I'll buy anything cheaper anyway.

>>8799529
that is a cool vest but i am not sure black pants would look right, especially since the navy of the vest appears to be almost a faded black, so the result might be a bit muddy. i think it can work as a first coord if that is what you have to work with, but if you are looking to buy pants i would seek a pair in a color the vest uses.

it does look like the rabbit brooch has black on it, and you might be able to bring out the black and navy with accessories that use both colors.

but honestly, if it fits your body and you carry yourself with confidence and a smile, you can get away with wearing just about anything.

>>8798093
Thanks, anon! That was really helpful.

>>8799939
When I'll buy this vest I'll be out of money for some time so I won't be able to buy matching print pants. Maybe I should something else? Tho I was kind hyped to find something (less)expensive that looks pretty.

>but honestly, if it fits your body and you carry yourself with confidence and a smile, you can get away with wearing just about anything.
Thank you anon, you're being so nice!

>>8801056
yw

>>8801329
>I won't be able to buy matching print pants.
for a busy print like that i would recommend a solid color, just a color that is used in the print (a matching shade of blue, white, or red, for example).

i think if you really like this vest and have the funds, better to get it while you can and save up for different pants. finding a good print for boystyle is very difficult, and stuff like that hardly ever shows up secondhand so once it's sold out you might be SOL. you are taking a risk either way, but it is not like you're getting married, they're just clothes.

good luck and post results!

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i made you an image macro, /ouG/

an anon is selling an IW ouji set over in the BST thread >>8803306

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>mfw the fabric closeup is pinstripes

ATTENTION CLASSIC BOYSTYLERS: http://m.intl.taobao.com/detail/detail.html?id=524958336313

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have you worn non-casual ouji in public without anyone with you who was wearing jfash?

>>8805454
Yeah, often. I'm at a liberal arts college, and I make a point of wearing jfash at least once a week.
I've only gotten questions and compliments; if you wear something suitlike, trim, and black, people like it, at least where I'm from.

>>8805521
aside from pants length and accessorizing, ouji is not far from what i would wear daily anyway: collared shirt, vest, hat... i think the suitlike nature does help it seem more normal than lolita.

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doing my first fururun order, waiting for the invoice.

meanwhile, STYLE SURVEY TIME

what substyle(s) do you usually wear? (sweet, gothic, or classic?)

do you have an unusual style, like mature sweet, punk, or dolly-kei/classic fusion?

if you had to declare a boystyle chatacter/archetype to align your personal sense of style with, what would it be? (e.g., vampire, pirate, schoolboy, butler, aristocrat, soldier, stuffed rabbit, idk, etc.)

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>>8807583
EXAMPLES OF BOYSTYLE ARCHETYPES

1. Vampire

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>>8807601
2. Pirate

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>>8807605
3. Schoolboy

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>>8807610
4. Butler

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>>8807616
5. Aristocrat (not necessarily EGA)

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>>8807629
6. Soldier

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>>8807633
7. Stuffed animal (seated)

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>>8807641
8. Royalty

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>>8807645
9. Shoujo Manga Character

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>>8807650
10. Rockstar (on the left)

or something else? if something else, post example pic!

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>>8776093
son of a fucking bitch, this is too soon. he just released a fucking album.

goodnight sweet senpai...

What are some good, non-PoP ouji bloggers to follow? Ones that post original coords rather than reblogging releases.

>>8807583
I have NO idea. But most of my outfits so far consist of berets, military style jackets, tights, and shorts that start a few inches above the knee.

>>8810082
i think those may point toward classic, as far as substyles go, but military can also be quite gothic.

what colors do you go for?

>>8807583
I'm >>8805521
I'm a short girl, so even though I want to look like a cool gothic pirate, most of my coords are closer to a youthful aristocrat, with a few leaning towards cute schoolboy. I only wear black and white, and I often mix in Lolita, especially for blouses.

lolitadesu.com still has a boystyle luckypack available, if anyone is interested.

>>8810831
>tfw broke

finally watching Rose of Versailles thanks to a couple anons in this gen. it is definitely a good ouji anime.

>>8810187
Black mostly, since that's what my normal wardrobe is anyway. I've made outfits with red, cream, grey, and gold too.
Classic/gothic would make sense then. I don't aim towards any particular themes.

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>>8784662
It's a handmade rosette I got, but I removed the original centerpiece (first picture) and replace it with this metal crest I found or this Boz pin from AM

>>8810798
Aeryn is 5 feet even and pulls off some pretty cool stuff >>8807605

>>8807583
All ouji all the time. Early on I tried for 'prince' but I've ended up leaning more towards aristocrat, just.. with a splash of colour. I own pirate, military and vampire stuff but not enough to put together a proper coord yet.

>>8812162
Metal crest!

>>8808861
none consistently.

>>8812162
What ever happened to Aeryn anyway? She hasn't updated her blog in a while.

>>8813838
i will guess real life. i know she was in college, and in my experience a lot of people drop off the face of a hobby in their later years of college or when they first get a job.

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>new, unused basics from a favorite brand are up for sale in my size for super cheap
>mfw i am completely broke

fuck this gay earth

>>8814428
I dont think it was school because she would at least be active in the summer or be online in some sense. Loads of people get into the fashion while in college.

She isnt active on her fb at all, the last photo of her dressing up is from April from around the time PoP had their event. On her fb there are photos of her in the hospital for something in Sept.

I havent seen any signs of her selling her stuff, but she has been radio silent.

>>8815362
Actually with some super stalking I found a more recent photo of her dressed up. Which was better than what I thought at first which is that she may have sold/given away a lot of her stuff to some of her friends since it seemed suspicious that suddenly someone close to her had all the same stuff. I guess that she is not posting stuff on purpose then, but is attending some stuff locally.

I'm trying to find some ouji style outfits for my boyfriend but he's very picky with what he likes. He's okay with some of the pictures I've showed him, but he wants something that's more "pirate ouji". I obviously want to stay away from stuff that looks grossly halloween-costumey. Any ideas on where to start with this? Thank you in advance.

>>8815376
more power to her if she chooses privacy i guess. i am thirsty for oujis with good skills to follow though.

>>8815401
what's his measurements? what have you already checked out? got a pic of something he likes?

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i spoke to some indie lolita designers in the Marketplace at RuffleCon when i went last October, and various indie Western brands saw the sizable boystyle turnout this year and said they would definitely bring more ouji stock next time.

what indie designers would you like to see boystyle stuff from? i do not remember if i asked her specifically but i like Lily of the Valley's work and coords. her take on boystyle could be cool.

>pic related, imagine a Medieval art-inspired gilet or jacket

>>8818866
Sweet Mildred needs to make more fancy hats.

>>8818866
I'm still sad I was broke when elegy's albino accord salopette came out.

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h. Naoto is having a really good sale at kincs.ws

if you like their style, now is the time to grab good new things


>>8819200
i am sad that there are so few public coords of that.

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>>8808861
Non-PoP on tumblr:

lostprinceofmar (a lot of reblogs but also good OC, both ouji and lolita)
sweetexpedition (mostly lolita, but posts a lot so there is original ouji content more frequently than other bloggers)
splashu (kind of inactive, but showed promise, hard to say what the OC to reblog ratio will be)
konekoanni (lots of reblogs, and OC is divided between lolita, ouji, and cosplay; her handmade ouji is awesome)
victorfaretina (LOTS of OC, including lolita and ouji doll designs; one of the more famous oujis, a lot of people don't like his face, but he's still going strong after oujis like bakasoseji, aerynsys, buttcape etc. dropped off the online ouji radar)
matticus-nightshade (lots of random reblogs, not much OC, but has a unique cool sense of style; he's the one who made the Bodyline jsks into a salopette)

also: AP made another ouji set just for their fashion show. fuck them.

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one of these coords is not like the others

one of these coords doesn't belong

>>8822281
Dem sleeves.

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>>8822281
I don't know what they're going for with this... Even for OTT that seems costumey.

>>8822281
I like the hood idea and the high-low hem, but yeah the sleeves are ridiculous

>>8822281
I like the hood and the high low hem, but yeah the sleeves are ridiculous

>>8825184
>>8825187
once more, with feeling

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excentrique = underrated

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>>8826248
top tier for classic ouji imo

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OTT sweet ouji: yea or nay?

>>8827344
yay
its very cute

>>8827344
i vote yea, and i have nothing against men wearing it either.

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The placement of this print makes me uncomfortable.

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i like this coat, but never heard of the brand before:

http://m.intl.taobao.com/detail/detail.html?id=523840729238&spm=a312a.7700714.0.0.rXK6hh#detail

reposting the poll i made regarding future gens: http://strawpoll.me/6136158/r

i figure unless people in this thread are annoyed at aristo questions and discussions, nothing needs to change. there is also no reason to prevent the one male EGA wearer who would prefer to post in an EGA gen from doing so (they said they wear both femme and masc aristo). the amount of discussion and interest in male gothic styles in general is so low it seems a nonissue; people can post where they like if each thread accepts the discussion.

for me, my EGA has more in common with ouji and overlaps with it, which is what i also see happening in Japanese communities and in brand marketing.

but i noticed the lolita gen called this the "ouji" thread rather than the boystyle thread, which previous lolita gen OPs did not do. so i worry someone will try to force an issue where there isn't one and would appreciate /ouG/'s thoughts.

>>8827904

Just ignore the autists.

>>8827919
kek'd, thanks anon.

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>>8827921
kek'd because your advice is perfect and exactly what i should be doing, that is.

>pic unrelated

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>tfw this is labelled "classic"

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>>8829554
>tfw when this is labelled "sweet"

get it together, Japan

>>8829555
and yes, the kanji literally refers to those coords as "amai ouji," it is not just the English.

how do boystyle substyles even work, outside of gothic? i am trying to collect scans for a presentation and so much seems to conflict.

also, Buttcape's blog is back

>>8829555
That fjord vest is so huge on that girl.

I think the styles end up being that >>8829554
is classic since it plays up 'vintage' items such as the suspenders and the hat. While >>8829555 is sweet since its white and they are more cute looking? Idk just because they label it for kera spread doesnt mean that they are hard labels.

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AatP continues its trend of one-size-only, but it is a nice tartan set without too much trim abuse.

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>>8829745
>While >>8829555 (You) # is sweet since its white and they are more cute looking?
i think they might be seen as sweet due to being more fanciful or fantasy-like, while the ones labelled classic have, like you say, a vintage look.

unrelated, Connie Tuttle is a new favorite ouji. i feel like recently, many lolitas have been crossing into boystyle and elevating the overall "look" of it in the Western community.

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>>8830485
>leaving the "(You)"s

kek sorry, here is another random recent coord from someone i am less familiar with

>9th page. we're really slow!
what are good taobao stores for ouji? (read as; cheap and no ss required)

>>8832716
>what are good taobao stores for ouji?
some taobao shops, like infanta, sell on AliExpress. Infanta is all i know personally.

I would like to start wearing ouji to school but there's a problem: the field I am studying is very dusty and I need to change my clothes before going to the workshop. Sometimes I have to chance back and forth few times during the day. What I need is clothes that could be easily taken off. I'm lookin mosty casual coords and if it matters, I'm a girl.

For short, post some pictures of (casual) ouji coords that can be changed easily to other clothes.

>>8832893
Just don't wear it to school and Wear it in your free time.

>>8832804
I know infanta. Tho their prics on Ali Are twice as big as on taobao. Do you know any other shops on Ali?

>>8832893
I plan to wear casual ouji at uni too!

>>8832893
Why put so much effort into changing instead of just dressing for your field? Jfash isnt meant to be easy to undress.

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>>8779446
>want to wear lolita
>get confused for a crossdresser while wearing it constantly
>nothing fits
m-maybe boystyle will work?
>183 cm
good to know i'm fucked there too..

>>8832897
>>8832912
I need to change anyway so there won't be any more effort. I just want to be more classy when we have classes outside the workshop and when walking around the campus.

>>8832978
I think you underestimate what you would need to do. Casual ouji is very iffy because it can easily fall into nouji, so you will have to keep a level of complexity to the outfits. Which of course will make it more work to change.

Like many people have this idea that they will wear like lolita to school everyday but when it comes down to it there are so much more practical things to wear. Ouji is going to be the same way, you are going to have a fuck it point where you wont want the hassle especially if you are knee deep in the semester.

>>8830485
I get it is the whole no makeup look but it looks so weird to have only half of an eyebrow.

>>8832978
Just wear it outside of classes, such as at weekends. Like >>8832991 says, it can all to easily fall into being 'nouji' territory, and you'll end up looking scuffier than you otherwise would were to you say, look for a nice smart-casual look. Plus, that would likely be more comfortable. Especially when you ahve a full day of classes. Besides, what you think of as being 'classy' others might not see it as such.
I've been in the uni environment for over ten years now, and I wear both femme and homme aristocrat, with a little bit of lolita. Trust me, save the style for free time. Dress nicely by all means during class, but really go to town outside of classes.

>>8832991
>>8833018
Well sorry for asking pics of simple ouji outfits, won't do it again

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>>8832893
>For short, post some pictures of (casual) ouji coords that can be changed easily to other clothes.
i don't know about the "easily changed" part but here is a small casual inspo dump. may not fit the bill for true ouji at times.

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>>8833235
pic related is not casual, but it is ultra simple and would be easy to change in and out of. it is also obviously ouji, not just a blouse and short pants.

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>>8833243

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>>8833246
ignore the too-small blouse here

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>>8833248
this is super cute and super simple, if not truly casual

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>>8833251
more simple than casual.

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love his coord

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>>8833260
last one for now, let me know if any of these inspire you or if they miss the mark.

>>8832922
there is always the option of customizing, F+F, etc.

>>8805454
Yeah, and really enjoyed it.

>>8833009
I'm glad I wasn't the only one thinking this.

>>8808861
bakasoseji, manus baudelaire, shane shallott, victor faretina, fairytaleprince, karakuri.

>>8833302
>bakasoseji
doesn't really do boystyle anymore

>>8833313
Really? what a pity!

>>8810187
Black, brown, bordeaux.

>>8761225
A.....armin?

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>>8786830

>>8827344
This is stunning

>>8833251
So cute!

>>8786847
>Anonymous
Don't like the ribbon, but is quite good!

>>8761226
Is aquaphobicsailor very tall or is she just very skinny and proportionate? I wish I could do a coord like that but I'm the short-thick leg type so I'd look stumpy.

>>8833439
I'm not crazy about the white and off white together.

>>8833504
Very skinny.

>>8833504
That's not aquaphobicsailor though, that's victorianme. They're both quite skinny.

approaching autosage, would like to get useful info together for the next OP. also, buttcape's blog is not completely back; the Ouji Overview is still offline. (godammit...)

>PROPOSED TEMPLATE

Last thread reached autosage [or image cap]: [link]

This thread is for ouji and aristocrat (aka "boystyle") discussion. Boystyle refers to the masculine counterparts of lolita and aristocrat fashions. There is a lot of overlap between these styles, and different people use different terms to describe them. Consider this a thread for those whose style is on the right half of Buttcape's Lolita Family Triangle: http://www.kawacura.com/moripress/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/0dmmLH6-350x350.jpg

You can also discuss EGA in the EGA thread: [link]

Shopping spreadsheet: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1j7sg2_7CvXUeIgZGGSLvJ9lUUuSVXhW8FlWWFwiv1Yk/edit?usp=docslist_api
Blogs for current releases, news, and info: palaceofprinces.tumblr.com ; ouji-armoire.tumblr.com

Google your questions before asking here.

Read the whole thread before asking questions here.

OC and selfposts encouraged! Picspam discouraged; we've seen most of it by now.

>>8833815
Goodbye, otk boot dreams.

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>>8761183

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>>8807583
11. Sailor

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>>8832893
pic for ants, but this spread features "Preppy Ouji." as usual, KERA is on crack.

>>8834455
that was a glaring omission, haha

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What kind of hairstyle and makeup do you like/recommend for ouji fashion?

So my BF wants to wear this style when I wear Lolita. According to >>8779446 he should be wearing the style technotropism wears. He's 185cm with a slim figure.

Only problem is, I'm not sure where he can get a coat like >>8761212. What is this style of coat called? I can see one type of coat like this on F+F, but it's not very descriptive other than "long coat". Is there a specific name for this? Would appreciate any help!

>>8836100
That's a Roland coat from Atelier Boz, fan+ friend does a replica

>>8836214
f+f one is a poor replica. Boz has a long and short version as well as a ladys and men's size. There are many colors/fabric options as they rerelease the style often.

>>8836100
>>8836919

Rolands aren't exactly cheap, but they are worth it. They're wonderful coats. I have a few of them in different styles, and >>8836919
they are very adaptable for different looks. I wear aristocrat.

>>8836099
it depends on you, really. most people go for a youthful, short but full cut, with minimal/natural makeup. do what looks best for your face and coord.

>>8837492
adding to this, you can often get them under $200 on Japanese secondhand sites.

new thread, with sad news: >>8837877