/ouG/ - Boystyle General: Communing with nature edition

>>8546384
I'm trying to start up an aristocrat wardrobe but I have no idea what I should invest in first. Any suggestions? I figured I could get away with a well tailored dress pant and a locally purchases button up for now. Should I get a vest or a jacket as my big ticket item?

>>8546423
that's not a bad idea. for aristo i would try to get a jacket or coat first, then a blouse. these tend to have the littlest in common with normalfag fashion.

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casual summery bump

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bro, how does it feel to have reached meme status?

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Just contributing.

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And another one. That's all I got on mobile so far.

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>>8548524
that's cool, /ouG/ is more about discussion than image dumps.

another summery coord.

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from the cof thread

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>>8548742

>>8546504
Should I try to save for an AATP piece or Atelier? I also heard taobao might have some aristocratic men's wear. Thought I'm not quite familiar with ordering through them.
Sorry for being such a novice! I appreciate the help!

>>8548823
i haven't found much on Taobao that impressed me, but i have only been buying for less than a year, and i have only checked Taobao resellers. Atelier Boz stuff is the nicest and comfiest brand that i have handled, and AatP is also very good. i would recommend them over Taobao for quality, aristo aesthetics, and comfort.

however, the advantage a taobao shop might have is their ability to do custom sizing. if you have shoulders wider than 40-45cm, ordering through a taoabao shop that can customize might be your best option. Fan+Friend is also used by people who are too big for Asian clothing, but i have no experience with them.

if brand new brand is too expensive, stalk second hand sites. fortunately most brands have English names so you can search without knowing Japanese, and use a browser translator to figure things out. right now Maidenclothing has a LOT of aristo-looking jackets, might be worth your time to see if any fit your measurements and budget: http://www.maidenclothing.net/s/search/?f6=&type=6&f14=&search=1

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>>8548883
right now the very first result is an h. Naoto coat with fucking amazing detail and a shoulder width of 48cm (19 inches, wide not around). if i had any money i would have bought it by now - the h. Naoto i own is really nice, and this coat is like 80 bucks (before shopping service fees and shipping ofc).

pic related, some of the detailing. somebody buy this and wear it well please.

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>>8548823
sorry for being Overly Helpful, but if you have a Facebook, join Ouji Sales. someone is selling a men's Boz Ryan jacket for $110, which is a good deal.

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handmade ouji (not mine).

>>8550350
>blacks don't match

>>8550356
dat handpainted galaxy design, though.

>tfw my blacks never match
>try to minimize the contrast with vests

>>8550350
wtf is this tumblr shit

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>blacks never match

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h. Naoto represent

>>8548883
>>8548934
No way, thank you so much for all of your help!! I had no idea where to start so this is just fantastic!

>>8548215
He's tiny. Like not his height but his body. Those arms and that chest.

>>8546384
>Is this someone posing as oscar wilde, I'm fucking crying

>>8546384
>how do you coord for outdoor summer meets?
I'm a lone fem ouji, but I wear it outside a lot, and I tend to wear offbrand short sleeved blouses and no/light outerwear. I also wear full-sized hats so I don't need a wig and I get some portable shade, and I tend to wear loose boots without socks that show.
Last, I always bring a water bottle. It may not be cute, but it's essential for health.

>>8550800
He's wearing that set really well. Good silhouette.

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another handmade ouji set, designs by Sasa who is also wearing it.

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>>8550994
you're welcome! come back with any questions.

>pic unrelated, just another Japanese coord

>>8550800
God I love this guy and his twin so much. They're so perfect.

>>8546384
>tfw only all-black main pieces and long-sleeved blouses
>one vkei sleeveless blouse that goes with nothing

i was not prepared for summer.

>>8551998
what kind of reactions do you get when you wear it out?

>>8554790
I don't get many reactions, but they're generally positive. I've had a few people say "I like your style" or "you look cute", but I'm a tiny girl, so it's kind of to be expected. I may be congenitally unable to pull off mature stuff, but I at least don't get the stink eye.

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>>8554849
well, that's good.

>congenitally unable to pull off mature stuff
i dunno, cute and tiny in maturer styles has a unique appeal. Buttcape is petite and makes military look kawaii.

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I would love to be able to wear ouji daily. I just don't know how to coord simple things very well. On top of that, I don't have a lot of blouses that don't have crazy amounts of ruffles.
Any idea where I can get some blouses that aren't super expensive and aren't super flashy? Short sleeves are preferred since it's hot out.

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>>8555401
if you look on secondhand shops, Rakuten, etc., you can get good general jfash blouses from BPN/BPN for Men, Putumayo, Deorart, and Algonquins. many h. Naoto sub-brands can also work for casual coords.

check the usual suspects: closetchild, Maidenclothing, Alice Fururun, etc.

pic related: Putumayo short-sleeved blouse. you can also do an interesting cutsew for an even casualer look.

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>>8555487
i posted pic related to the last thread, but it is an example of a casual ouji coord from one of the Japanese coord-sharing sites.

>>8555487
Thanks for the info!
I'm going to check those stores/brands out when I get paid. I haven't bought anything second hand except from FB sales or LJ sales, so this will be a nice change.

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>>8555494
good luck!

>>8558384
vendetta or misfire?

what does this faun shit have to do with boystyle?

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new coat from AatP with a giant pirate/Dracula collar. available in men's and women's size.

i need a better job

>>8558760
imo, an ok coat at best. that hugeeeee collar stops me from adding to my shopping cart

>>8558760
A little costumey, and that fucking trim. I already have enough clothing with that trim, get a new one AATP.

>>8559104
I agree, I have a jacket that has a big collar and it is maybe half the height of the vampire one, and I am afraid that it will be too big for me. I feel like a collar that huge will swallow me.

>>8548742
Those contacts with her eye shape is stunning.

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>>8559104
>>8559137
>2015
>not having a giant collar with which to defend your snacks

>>8561058
>top kek

i just found this blog post from buttcape about the BPN designers: http://buttcape.blogspot.de/2014/02/bpn-is-back.html?m=1

i knew one had moved to Sheglit, which only does ladies' sized things and so is not something i can wear. however, the other two brands supposedly do have men's sizes, and Elements,H does international shipping.

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>>8563341
MiDiom does menswear. some items seem good for casual boystyle.

http://midiom-store.com

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>>8563348
elements,H has stuff like pic related, which has a waist of 82cm (i wear size 30 US and fit best into 80cm Japanese).

their official site is elementsh.jp and the resell site looks like it has fuck all: http://www.cooljapanstore.com/default.php?manufacturers_id=109&sort=0a&page=1

>>8563366
this is damn cute!

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Did anyone else see this set pop up on tumbr?

>Little Dipper is currently taking reservations for this ouji set until September 20th, 2015. They need 100 orders of each set to produce them, so reserve yours now! It looks like Clobbaonline is able to take reservations for this set for only $69.95 shipped in the US.

I kind of want the blue or green, but it doesn't seem like Clobba has a preorder yet? Sorry, I'm pretty new to everything, but will Clobba have a preorder eventually or is there any other way to preorder it?

>>8564565
i have never ordered from Taobao or a Taobao SS, but i would recommend emailing them directly to ask.

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>excited about lolita and boystyle
>nobody i know is into it enough to have educated discussion
>chronic illness plus anxiety makes going to regular meets difficult
>tfw no jfash buddy to chat with

anyone interested in chats outside this thread?

about me: i have a modest ouji and aristocrat wardrobe (mostly second-hand brand with a couple new items). my daily wear is fantasy-influenced goth/corporate goth. when i am more skilled with makeup i will be getting into shironuri.

my favorite brands are MmM, alice auaa, h. Naoto, and Boz.

other interests include goth shit, horror movies, strange movies and tv, anime and cartoons, anthropology, speculative fiction, linguistics, constructed languages and cultures and worlds, writing, crafting, androgyny, and self-improvement.

i want to chat with other boystylers (also those who dabble in it) about the fashion, and about lifestyle elements related to it. i think it would be cool to just straight up invent an "ouji culture" Calvinball-style but i have no major expectations, just this whimsical idea of chatting about fancy or weird shit with other boystylers. i used to have many goth friends and i miss that type of individualistic but aesthetically unified subculture.

my throwaway email is [email protected]. if this interests you but you don't feel like 4chan is where you want to discuss it, hit me up.

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>>8565568
Whereabouts are you located, as far as time zone? I'd be up for talking to more ouji-inclined folks but if we're on opposite sides of the world it might be difficult. I'm in GMT-5.

Unrelated question, I just got AatP's White Rabbit Salo in black x gold and I'm floundering when it comes to headwear. I was thinking top hat but I'm having a hard time finding a nice one that's not full price AatP. What are y'all's favorite sources for ouji headwear (a lot of the shops linked in Buttcape's guide are now defunct) and does anyone have alternative suggestions for this salo? All my legwear is black x white, and I'll be wearing black shoes. I can either go with gold crown accessories, or black & white clock accessories.

>>8564565
Yeah just email clobba. I've ordered from them before and they're super friendly.

Just curious, why is almost all ouji black/navy/other dark colour? I don't mean it should be pastel or something but little brighter colours would be nice.

>>8565568
I'm still upset that the friending thread got deleted.

>>8568593
i'm guessing because those who wear it in Japan (the primary demographic) prefer the gothic look. there is still overlap with visual kei for ouji in a way that lolita does not have.

>tfw want to start wearing ouji or aristo
>tfw overall petite frame but thunder thighs
I guess I'll just stick to lolita. Sigh.

>>8570623
pumpkin pants and jodhpurs, anon.

boystyle stuff tends to always come in ladies' sizing, too.

>>8567819
i am also GMT-5 (eastern standard), in the greater NYC zone.

as for headwear, i have many hats, but only a few suitable for ouji. one is a boater i got for 1k yen off of yahoo japan auctions, one is a widebrimmed felt hat i picked up at a renfaire (plan to decorate it into a bicorner or tricorner hat), one is an excellent top hat from a gothic store that no longer sells them, and one is a greek fisherman's cap off of eBay. i have also purchased fairly decent top hats and bowler hats off of Amazon for cheap - read the descriptions and reviews to find the best bang for your buck.

to ouji-ify hats, i have ribbon, chain, pins, etc. so far i have worn my boater plan, and my top hat with a scarf tied around it to give flounce in the back.

when i am less sleep deprived i will return to this issue. i notice many boystylers skipping headwear and i would like to lay out my impressions and strategies on the subject.

>>8572493
>ladies size
You clearly don't have big thighs if you want to reccomend that. It's always better to go for the men's as they are a bit bigger.

>>8570623
I wish there was more info on what runs large or small out there for this stuff for that reason, it is hard to tell you what will fit and what wont. You are best to look at stuff that is looser and stuff that already is poofy in the butt such as pumpkin shorts, but you may get into an issue of that the cuff is tight even if your thighs physically fit into the shorts. I find that 'lolita brands' tend to have the worst sizing for ouji, IW pants are worse than their dresses for shirring and Aatp doesnt seem to care about if you have hips. But brands that are not so well known for lolita tend to be far better in terms of fit, Boz, Ozz On, BPN, Putamayo, etc all seem to be more accomdating.

>>8568593
I kinda feel like its because guys dont have a lot of variables for formal wear. Black, white and navy seem to be the choices on colors. It doesn't help that a lot of the brands do gothic leaning stuff anyways so it flows to keep with those colors.

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>>8572503
ah, i assumed that ladies' would allow for curves since they often specify both waist and hip size (with the hip size being much larger).

there is shapewear to compress thighs/ass but i do not know how effective it would be.

>pic unrelated

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i would like to take a moment to appreciate Grandfather Adel. may we age as graciously as he.

stay princely, my friends.

>>8565568
Are you okay with talking with someone who knows the fashion but doesn't dress in it?

>>8578491
sure, hit me up

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thought this was interesting

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Looking for more ouji coords with long pants for inspiration. My boyfriend is willing to loli with me but would look super awkward in shorts so I want to gather some ideas if possible.

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>>8581580
>ouji coords with long pants
i got you fam.

will try to keep away from aristo.

alternate suggestion #1: wear really high boots with breeches, like the ouji on the right.

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>>8581649
and now on to what you actually asked for.

to me, the key to keeping an ouji look with longer pants is a matter of adding flair or flamboyancy to the outfit. where aristocrat is restrained and mature, ouji is playful and sometimes extravagant.

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>>8581652
dunno how long these pants are since they are, again, tucked into high boots.

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>>8581654
youthful or punky hairstyles can also keep it closer to ouji

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>>8581656

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>>8581658

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>>8581649
Navy and black...

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>>8581663
this is a more casual look

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>>8581666
devil trips! i did not notice those are actually breeches-length. just imagine they are pants.

military-inspired looks work well with tailored pants.

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>>8581671
flouncy buttcapes can add visual interest to the lower half in the absence of socks/tights

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>>8581673

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>>8581677
also considee a long, full piratey coat

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>>8581684

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thread don't die

you are not a popular style, but i believe in you

Where can I buy cheap ouji clothes?

>>8584146
what's your size and definition of cheap?

>>8584146
Bodyline had a couple breeches/shorts for super cheap during their 1000 sale, they're surprisingly decent for how ridiculously cheap they were. With some alterations they are quite nice. I'm not sure how much are they selling for now that Bodyline has a new website tho.
I read that you might get lucky thrifting as well. mainly for blouses. Also seen a couple vests and blouses for cheap on ebay actions that could be altered nicely for ouji.

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don't do this to yourself bro. wear clothes that fit.

the coord is fine but not on this body. come the fuck on, have some dignity. not everyone can fit brand; that is why Taobao exists.

>>8586754
I think limiting the colors might be better on this coord

>>8586754
This is pretty good, but man he needs some shapewear. He looks like a sausage stuffed into that waistcoat.

>>8581671
shit if this is considered ouji half my wardrobe is there already

Any tips on altering things for ouji? Besides the obvious changing the buttons

>>8587009
what are you looking to alter?

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found

>>8564565
dude thats like on my-lolita-dress for $34.99

>search ouji
>very first thing

>>8586754
>mfw i know this person

>>8586754
i said he looked chubby a few threads ago and people were all saying he's really fit irl... is that really true?

>>8564565
There are other taobao ss, check the spreadsheet in the taobao thread. I'm ordering the set in navy, trying taobaoring for the first time.

>>8591512
That's for just the pants. The whole set is $83.99. Plus shipping.

>>8591525
Yeah he teaches fitness classes. He's just got broad shoulders and shit.

Is it really hard to find vests/pants that fit an 80cm waist or is it just me.
Also is it a fashion faux pas if the buttons are on the wrong side for a blouse/vest/jacket. As I tend to find a nice item but the buttons are almost always on the left hand side. Not sure if I should wear it if I am male.
I want to know if its something you should strictly stay away from, or you can get away with some exceptions.
This is mainly for ouji/EGA for a male.

>>8593934
the buttons do not matter. a woman's cut might have room for boobs, and might have a more tapered waist. if it fits you, the side the buttons are on is not important.

i also have trouble finding things with an 80cm waist. 78 is my minimum, 80cm is comfy.

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I'm not entirely sure if this is the right place to ask this, but I couldn't find a coord help thread. Baby's first ouji! Does anyone have a better headgear option?

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>>8595133
with those boots, you could push the coord toward equistrian or military themes. however, the flouncy blouse makes me think pirate.

a tricorn would be fab.

>watch a lot of lolita videos
>easy to find good things of good quality
>feelsgoodman
>look for ouji videos
>can't find shit
>rewatch Ouji Accessory
>feelsunfulfilledman

i am afraid of cameras and microphones

nonetheless, i feel obligated to make an ouji video, any video, about anything, so another ouji faces less of a content desert.

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>>8596254
I completely agree!
The only ouji youtubers I know of, that is still making content now a days, is Attitude Lolita and Lost Prince Mar.
I'm thirsty for some more ouji videos man

>>8596266
i was pretty excited for the Deerstalker "oujis at the zoo" video but they were in plainclothes. still a fun vid but not the fashion fix i am looking for.

looking forward to their next one, which i think will cover Nightfall in a vloggy style.

>>8596308
hopefully they dish the dirt on AM behind the scenes!

I wish they'd just do a serious ouji series tbh

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http://www.ralphlauren.com/product/index.jsp?productId=67749096&preOrderLabel=Pre%20Order

thank me later plebs

>>8596316
valet kei

>>8596316
Looks weird buttoned up.
I like their other military/band jackets better.

>>8596310
me too. they have a lot of good boystylers around, it seems (well, 4 seems like a lot). a series featuring them might be cool.

i know they have a Patreon and i am considering a donation with the request for more ouji content. when i have money ofc

>>8596316
>women's cut

not as expensive as burando though

>>8579819
I dropped you an email.

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>>8601032
Hnnng
Who is this?

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>>8601087
forgot what tumblr i saved the image from, and reverse image search isn't helping. i cannot even remember the brand. i am sorry.

let's try another from the set and see if google can reverse look it up.

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>>8601147
brand is Boz, images from this person's weibo: http://m.weibo.cn/d/cosxiaomeng?jumpfrom=weibocom

happy hunting

>>8601157
that jabot is really ugly but it works in the photo cuz it's overexposed anyway. Also I wish he had some buckles or some ornamentation on the shoes to match the buttons on the jacket. /nitpick

Nice to see some actual good ouji photoshoots with an actual dude

>>8601207
Post I found credits this page: http://weibo.com/cosxiaomeng

>>8601157
Whoops. Beat me to it.

>>8601157
>>8601207
Thank you anons
Agree about the shoes, bottom half looks rather plain, but I'm too distracted with his (surely photoshopped) pretty face.

>>8597381
As far as I'm aware, Technotropism is the only ouji in Sydney. Hence the caption for this photo having been something like "tfw you're the only ouji in the village".
>>8565568

I think the other Australian ouji-types live in Melbourne.

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>>8601880
i am living partly in the past because of saved images and watching old youtube videos... Deerstalker used to do Melbourne Tales videos, and they each would appear in Aletheia Nocturne's blog posts of meetups. there were a lot of well dressed male boystylers in one place at some point! (Technotropism, Agentlemanetc., Hominidwatching, Mr. Mizer; gif related.)

>tfw happen to have various pics featuring 3 of the 4 in different configurations but none featuring all at once
>not enough of a stalker to figure out where they each actually live
>still mirin' the frilly fraternity

>>8558760
That's a rerelease of their Vargossa coat, which has been rereleased several times. It's a really nice coat in person, and is comfy to wear. The metallic trim versions are a bit scratchy, but much nicer in the solid black. The trim clusterfuck is the Hugin jacket: http://www.babyssb.co.jp/onlinestore/p11jk305/.

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I recently bought the mens' size Tourinot vest from AATP for the torso length and waist measurement (as the ladies size runs rather small). Problem is however that it's rather baggy at the side-front panels below my bust (which isn't big), but above where the back panel joins the front. Has anyone else had this issue?

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>>8581665
It looks great. Navy and black can look amazing. That no navy with black rule is bullshit if you know how to balance it out.

is being tall an obstacle to this style? 6' here :/

>>8602019
Deerstalker used to travel to Melbourne and Sydney frequently before they ended up moving iirc

>>8602019
>>8602344
Elliot's tall as fuck but he's also skinny, it can be done.

>>8548215
That guy has an uncanny resemblance to my brother...

Looking at an ouji set on My Lolita Dress, but the difference between vest bust measurement (92 cm) and the suitable bust measurement (<86) is throwing me off. Is one better to abide by? My bust is 91, and the next size up has a waist measurement about 8 cm too big, and I don't want the thing to look baggy if I order the larger size instead.

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>>8603313
measurements always confuse me anon. bump so you get some help.

>pic unrelated, good handmade ouji

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fuck i really like this set and i have no money

AatP why now

>>8605712
hobouji?

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>>8605869
gothic ghost ouji. poor man's alice auaa.

>>8605894
those shirts are interesting but the set still reminds me more of a hobo than a ghost

>>8605712
Looks like a hot mess to me. There's nothing prince-ly about it. Definitely very hobo.

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What makes a good ouji shirt? From what I've seen, high collars and long sleeves tend to be really popular, but as someone just getting into it, are there certain things that should be avoided? For instance, pic related are the three shirts I'm trying to choose from (all in white) for my first basic piece, but I'm not sure if I'm even on the right path.

>>8607584
I personally love the first one, the other too seem a bit "too feminine" but hey, pieces that might seem inappropriate by themselves might work well if coorded right.
Though if you're trying to choose one for your first basic piece, I'd go for the first one or I'd look for something similar but without that neck ruffle, so it can work for more casual/simple coords or something more "dressy" when acessorized/layered.

>>8605712
It's cute but as the other anon said, just get some alice auaa, much less costumey and better quality. Second hand it might not even cost more than AatP.

I'm sure the plebs will hate this though.

>>8608036
>other anon

it was me though

definitely getting some alice auaa when other, more practical goals are reached

in honor of the Mana thread:

Moitie is one of the few major brands that releases regular boystyle items. do you own any, or are you interested in owning any?

>>8581665
>>8602289
It's not even navy it's blue. Also no, navy and black look terrible, black and blue, especially jewel tones like that are killer.

>>8608036
>I'm sure the plebs will hate this though.

Except it's just really damn ugly.

>>8609419
I think they meant the coat, it looks more navy than black in the photo but it could just be different blacks photographing weirdly

>order ipsy glam bag
>first one on the way
>website lets me see what i'm getting even though it hasn't arrived
>neutral tone (if sparkly) eyeshadow, natural tone lip crayon

awright, this looks like it may be good for ouji makeup.

>>8607584
can i get a sauce on the first one? it would be very good for ouji.

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found

>>8613498
It's from Infanta, that's the one I decided to go with http://world.taobao.com/item/44445177076.htm?fromSite=main

>>8615594
can you review it when it arrives?

>>8561058

topkek, flawless gif

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I know this may be a long shot, but I was wondering if anyone could be my ouji/aristo mentor? I've been a lolita for a few years now, so I'm aware of different shops to go to, but I just need someone who's more well-versed than I am to tell me if my collage ideas are crap or not. I just want to make my bishounen dreams come true.

I'm 5'7" and 34-26.5-35

>>8620211
you should post them anon!
we are the same height but you are bigger by a couple of cm, maybe I can help.

>>8620211
Yo anon you're my size too.
Ive been in ouji for about a year and a half now. I would love to see your coords and help out if you would like.
I agree with >>8620668 too, you should totally post them!

So what's 'ita' of ouji?

>>8622419
noji.

>>8622419
nouji
noji
just like how otome ita is notome

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>>8622419
you want the unofficial term (which other anons posted) or a description/examples?

i also suggest "kuhdoughnuh" as an alternate term since most noujis call their stuff "kodona"

>>8623284
I've seen kodon'ta. It's a bit easier to read than kuhdoughnuh

>>8623284
why not just

kodona more like kodon't amirite

>>8625940
kodon'ta would work if kodona was an appropriate term.

but it's not, and the way most people say it sounds stupid to boot. hearing someone say "kuh-dough-nuh" makes me think of them as a mental ita, even if their clothes are fine.

>>8620211
is this a fucking patalliro gif

oh my god, it's a fucking patalliro gif. i never thought i would live to see the day that my ancient gays appeared on cgl. god bless everything.

>>8623284
Some examples would be fine too.

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>>8626695

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>>8627060
to be fair, a lot of these are from the daily_lolita days when there was not a lot of ouji available. however, many of the outfits look bad by themselves, let alone as ouji.

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>>8627062
also a lot of ageplay looking shit.

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>>8627064

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>>8627067

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>>8627075
this should be enough.

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>this fucking coat

Why do i check Closet Child when i have no money?

>>8627064
Kawaii-ugu uke? And
>>8627067
Seems creepy, but
>>8627054
Seems borderline like'casual' ouji that Japanese sometimes post? What is noouji about it? (Ignoring if it's nice or not).

>>8627067
That's ageplay bro

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>>8631764
>Seems borderline like'casual' ouji that Japanese sometimes post? What is noouji about it? (Ignoring if it's nice or not).
ill-fitting. the fit and drape, as well as hair styling, make the outfit look cheap and do not fit the style imo.

here's a casual ouji from a japanese coord site for comparison.

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The fuck is this.
>not a bad coord but that facial hair
>ew

>>8629940
but anon it's so fucking expensive sweet jesus

it might still be around by the time you have some money.

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>>8633752

There's more now.

>>8629940
I saw this and thought the sameeee. Fite me irl!

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>>8633752
>>8634499
Is this a ftm person?
Because something looks off, like, they are ridiculously girly for a real male.

>>8634553

Pretty sure ftm, yeah. I remember a few years back he deleted his lolita blog and popped up the next week with the ouji blog like nobody would notice.

>>8634559
Eugh, how long has he been on T? I'm assuming not too long because god that face is still feminine, and the hair is just making him look like a bearded lady.

>>8634499
>neckbeard

if you want to keep your beard for ouji, please at least groom it.

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life goals

>>8596254
>career actor
>access to high end camera equipment, studios, etc.
I have everything I need and I think it would be fun, but I feel like people would dox me to fuck my career over or something.

My union isn't a big fan of letting people make videos that promote products or anything. I'm a nobody, but they would see my videos as a performance and 'acting' for free is basically against the rules.

I think I have the tools necessary to succeed at tutorials and guides/intros to the fashion and all that, but lolita are fickle and sometimes terrifying creatures.

>>8636632
that sucks. but if it's just you discussing a fashion, i would hope that wouldn't be seen as "acting for free." though i do realize now that i cannot think of any actors that also do YouTube videos, though many may do Vine or whatever.

it's social media, and not a threat to any other actor. i mad on your behalf.

>>8636632
Put on a mask.

>>8636632
>I feel like people would dox me to fuck my career over or something.
also: people's careers are sometimes discussed, but usually only by drama llamas who do not take it beyond the gossip stage. if lolitas had the power to "dox" anyone and ruin their careers, i can think of several hated persons who would have been targeted already.

the union thing is probably a bigger concern...

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>>8637059
a mask matched to a coord would actually be a good concept.

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this coord from CoF makes black x white look entirely not butler-kei

>>8548742
who is this?

>>8638603
http://deathanddresses.tumblr.com/

bumping for interest

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i am up late preparing for RuffleCon. what are some /ouG/ films?

currently watching Tim Burton's Sleepy Hollow. before that i watched Julie Taymor's Titus and coveted every coat i saw. what would you gulls recommend?

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>>8643794
also looking forward to the gothic aristocrat-ish eyefeast of Crimson Peak

what's your favorite ouji accessory?

i collect hats and socks

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i am glad that technotropism exists.

>>8650583
That hat is too exaggerated, it looks kinda dumb. I think his ushanka would have been nice with this.

>>8643800
>Crimson Peak
oh hell yes. So excited.

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>>8650583
i really want some cool fur collar stuff but i am a pleb and will go after cool main pieces and never be able to balance out the rest of the outfit

Thoughts on shorts length? I have stupid hips and a tiny waist so I'm making my own, so I'm wondering what length I should go. Right now I have over knee, but I know the short ones are seen more on girls. Just wondering if they're just rare or not as nice looking.

>>8650767
It's preference and depends on what look you're going for. Shorter is going to be more cutesy and feminine. I think it should be roughly knee length in general, shorter depending on whether or not you want skin to show while wearing OTKs.

>>8650808
I don't care too much about skin showing, but I do want to show off my OTKs. I was going for something more boyish than normal... right to the knee might be good.

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did anyone get this? i did not know it was going on sale and it is now sold out.

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life goals

Any aliexpress ouji stores?

>>8555489
How to coord casual-(n)ouji like this? Without hat and accessories it'd look like something that you'd see on street.

>>8656635
>casual
>something that you'd see on street
Problem being?

>>8655604
Oh god, when I'm 50 I want to be an old aristocrat lady with a husband who dresses like this

>>8656711
But what does make it 'ouji'-casual? I'd like to learn more about ouji and other boystyles so maybe one day I could wear them too.

>>8656726
The pants, socks and shoes. And hair.

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>>8656726
like casual lolita, which uses things like cutsews (nice tshirts, often fitted or with fanciful trim) and a less-poofy petti, casual ouji strips down the aspects of regular ouji that make it difficult to wear daily.

using shorts, breeches, etc., with high socks would be a good place to start if you are just starting out.

another method is to take a regular ouji coord, identify what makes it a bit formal for everyday wear, and replace those elements, while maintaining a flattering fit for your body. a nice hoodie instead of a swallowtail jacket, or a cutsew instead of a blouse; a newsboy cap instead of a top hat; trainers or funky shoes instead of heeled leather boots.

you can also find long knit gilets to replace more formal jacquard/brocade ones (like pic related). the long vest is a key style for many ouji, and brands like Black Peace Now, Ozz On/Ozz Croce, and Gadget Grow make a lot of knit long gilets that you can pair with shorts fitted near the knee for an insta-casual ouji coord.

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>>8657087
pic related is from Sixh. i do not like the pattern, but it is an example of a long vest that is "dressed down" and suitable for casual ouji. it is on Tokyo Alice for 2,800 yen.

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two sweet ouji coords from collageanon

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>>8657130

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>>8657107
another option: substitute the formal jabot with an informal tie or scarf. pic related is a Putumayo scarf on y!ja for 1,800 yen. the trump pattern is common in ouji so you could build a coord with other trump accessories.

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>>8653329

Arrived at Tenso today.

Unsure I should ask here or in the wig general but where should I look for ouji appropriate wigs?
I'm still very much in the beginning of building my ouji wardrobe, I have things in the mail for my first coordinate so I'm not very keen on spending a lot of money on a wig, when I still need to work on buying main pieces but I'd like to find something to go with my first coord for now.
Any suggestions? I know Cyperous seems to be a favorite but they're way too expensive for me atm so I was wondering if any ouji on a tight budget here had any luck finding wigs. Thanks!

Where do you all buy your vests from? I'm in need of a solid royal blue vest for a coord but am struggling to find one that goes with it.

>>8659046
exciting! can you post pics/video of the haul?

>>8659111
i have gotten compliments on my Arda Wigs, which i get in short styles on clearance for around 15 USD.

i tried out Lockshop's Prince wig (available from Lolita Collective) but it is a bit long and fluffy and my wig styling skills are noob-level. it is a nice wig, but i will most likely go back to Arda for my next one for a precut and cheaper style.

>>8659159
i buy from second hand places. if you are looking for a particular color, you might have luck with F+F, Bodyline, or a Taobao store. i have not tried those personally, though.

what is your shoulder and bust size? have you ordered outside of your country before?

>>8659111
Most ouji that have nice wigs usually style them themselves. I think you should try to get some styling techniques or look into cosplay wigs, sometimes they have nice wigs in different styles.

>>8659555
Thank you! I've been wanting to try Arda and Lockshop but I'm not in the US and the shipping costs always end up putting me off. I'll think I'll try looking for anyone selling them secondhand in my country.

>>8659806
Thank you! I'll have a look around cosplay wigs and have a go at styling it myself in case I can't find anything else. I'm a little out of practice styling wigs, since I haven't cosplayed in a while but I'll give it a go!

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crossposting RuffleCon oujis

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>>8662042

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>>8662045

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>>8662051

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>>8662052

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and then there's this guy. no one can be perfect all of the time.

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>>8662055

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>>8662063
i know there were more, still waiting for pics.

>>8660407
No problem! If you cosplay, it will be easier since you have some knowledge about wigs. Best of luck!

>>8620211
yeah i didnt read what you said just because of patalliro. i agree with you, whatever it is you said.

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does someone know where i can find boots like pic related. i need to find them preferably in white, but im having trouble finding anything similar to it.

>>8663089
where have you looked already? before i go off hunting

>>8663089
You mean engineer boots?

>>8663128
ive checked pretty thoroughly ebay, and even gave taobao a shot. I even looked at some womens boots but they dont come in my size ofc. I have also never used taobao, im pretty new to this as you can tell.

>>8663135
now i know the name, thanks anon

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this the back of a promo for Atelier Boz's new coat worn over a lolita coord. i want a coat that is this long, with tiered layers. i wonder if i can cut open a skirt to attach to a jacket or coat for a similar look. remove a panel perhaps, to transform it into a buttcape?

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>>8664666
the actual length of the coat for comparison. i really want a full, multilayered coat though. kind of jealous of what lolita and femme aristo can do with their skirts and pettis.

>>8655604
Best team <3

>>8662063
>>8662055
>>8662052
>>8662051
>>8662050
>>8662048
>>8662046
>>8662045
>>8662042
I appreciated that most oujis put out at this con.

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>>8665317
>put out

wut

>>8665356
...you heard me

>>8665419
that is a lot of oujis

you doing ok?

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>>8665317
>>8665425
The plural of pepperoni is pepperoni

>>8666205
oh jeez

>>8666205
Bhaaaaaa

>>8662048
When does sailor ouji become just sailor?

>>8668348
when it wears long pants, starts cursing, and sets up a still in the engine room

>>8669712
Excellent answer, thank you anon.

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>>8669752
np.

on that note, i did not know Triple Fortune released an oujo set, much less sailor ouji. it is not my style but i thought some salty gull might appreciate it.

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found a couple ouji makeup tutorials

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>>8674158

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>>8578246
>>8662046
someone in the lolita gen wanted more Grandpa Ouji pics. commencing minidump.

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>>8674611

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>>8674616

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>>8655604
missed one

>>8674625

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>>8674628

can a girl with a larger bust wear boystyle? Or should I just stick to lolita? I'm scared I'll look ridiculous trying to wear boystyle unless I wear a binder under the coord.

>>8674654
I've got a large bust too and I'd say no. You can downplay big boobs in lolita but you can't in ouji so it always looks awkward af.

>>8674654
why not? it's a fashion, not a costume. if you aren't bursting out of your blouse or vest or jacket, bust size is not an issue.

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purple is not a color commonly seen in ouji

>>8678099
I have a crush on her.

>>8548747
Is that... Blush around his eyes? Because that's actually really cute. I usually associate that with CPK.

>>8550350
I.... Like this, but I also hate it. It needs balance and a vest to feel less under-dressed. If the vest had colors from the galaxy, or if they had a sash.... Maybe a few brooches or something? I don't know, but it feels so off with that collar and nothing else to dress it up.

Like it has potential, but it looks Way Off as it is.

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>>8678374
yeah, it's a bit of a BJD look which i also like.

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>>8643800
>>8650661
my friend worked on the costumes in that movie! it makes me happy to know a lolita worked on all those beautiful outfits.

>>8674611
this man makes me so fucking happy wtf. i want him as my poppa tbh. why can't i have cool family members.

>>8678433
you will just have to commit to being the cool family member for the younger generation.

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the open neckline throws me but for a first coord, not bad.

>>8680528

Aww, babby's first tie knot.

>>8674628
now this is how you make a HP coord

>so many oujiable things on secondhand sites
>no money

fuck it all. who else a broke ouji in here?

>>8682500
Could you link these places, please? I'm beginner and I struggle with finding anything ouji.

>>8683574
sure thing. have you used any Japanese shopping sites before? if not i can give tips on how to buy.

google:

closetchild, violetblue on rakuten, tokyo alice on rakuten, alice fururun, maidenclothing, usagiyouhinten, wunderwelt, tenshi shop/chibi tenshi shop, and glassforest. each site is set up differently. for example, glassforest has a section called "outlet" where you can hunt through secondhand stuff.

also check auction sites: yahoo auctions japan and mbok.jp. there are others that may not be worth a beginner's time.

you need a shopping service for a lot of these. basically anything that does not have a page with instructions on international orders.

most brands that make boystyle have names with roman letters which makes searching easy, but if you browse a lot you can find more stuff.

finally, if you are bigger than the average Japanese, you might only be able to find accessories that fit. but those can add interest or quality to an offbrand, Bodyline, or Fan+Friend coord (two online shops that carry larger sizes).

happy hunting. when i have money i will fight you for good shit.

noob question: will the Lolita section jackets on bodyline work for men or are they made specifically for women? I'm trying to make my first aristocrat coord

>>8683846
Not the other anon, but holy shit thank you for this. I've been having a similar problem and this is a goldmine.

>>8674611

I don't object to the old guys 18th century threads at all. little lord fauntleroy shit with the super thick soled shoes is about the height of over the top sissiness.

>>8680528
It'll certainly benefit from a blouse and jabot but it looks pretty good for using what he has. Hope to see more.

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picked up new coat today, feels gud. might buy some more stuff from infanta now, their stuff is pretty cheap for how nice it is.

>>8678099
I saw this vest for 80$ ages ago and I'm so mad I didn't get it. I never seem to like any h.Naoto stuff until I see it worn, the stock photos are always awful.


>>8602261
I have the same problem with most of AATPs vests. I always thought it was just baggy because they designed it with women in mind, and I didn't have the chest to fill it out.

>>8684555
if the listed measurements fit you, i would try it and report back with results. there is not a lot of info about Bodyline for men.

>>8685084
looks good, is the vest part of it or separate?

>>8685236
vest is part of it, i think it's trying to do a boz impression

>>8686631
the collar looks a bit AatP, but the detailing seems more h. Naoto. what brand is it in truth?

>>8680528
Why are you making so many excuses for this guy? It's straight up nouji. Very unflattering.

>>8686834
are you speaking to me or the thread?

responding as myself, i did not make so many excuses: it is not bad for a first coord. it is not good, but judging on the basis of someone being new, i look forward to seeing his progress. first coords always get a bit of a pass from me.

>>8686853
>>8686834
What's wrong with it besides the awkward tie/undershirt? Genuinely curious cause I thought he looked fine.

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>"this is cute"
>"this looks like age play"
the struggle

>>8687718
what's with the whip? unicorn tamer coord?

a lot of sweet looks like ageplay or cosplay, in ouji or lolita. as long as you are not doing it in a way that eroticizes childhood, looking like a little girl is fine.

>>8685084
>>8686749
It's infanta, which reminds me.. it's a large and barely fits me. I thought it was just my shoulders but it's tight everywhere and a bit short on the sleeves. 29 waist 34 chest, I can't imagine what their small looks like.

>>8688027
i have seen brand pants with 62cm waists (24 inches). asian women and girls are small.

with those measurements you are a perfect candidate for men's sizes in Boz, AatP, and Moitie. i would keep an eye out for cheap secondhand if taobao brands are still too small.

>>8653329
>>8659046
>>8659551

here is a review of what was inside, for all pauper princes to live vicariously through: http://agentlemandoesnotconga.tumblr.com/post/131315782820/received-my-50k-moi-meme-moitie-lucky-pack

>>8683846
Are there any sites that don't require any additional services? I don't live in USA. Thank you for the list, it's so good that it should be part of OP.

Is buying second hand safe? Like won't I get skin diseases or Asian stink bugs???

>>8688976
Wow that's actually a pretty good deal. I might go for next time they're available.

>>8689747
>Is buying second hand safe? Like won't I get skin diseases or Asian stink bugs???
You sound like an idiot, stores would never carry items in that bad of a condition. These aren't Salvation Army shops or cheap taobao factories. Japanese shop in particular are known for having items in decent condition and going out of the way to point out any damage or minor flaws.

>>8689747
lots of people who order from japan don't live in the USA. if you don't live in japan, each store has its own policy regarding whether or not it will ship internationally. if they don't, you will need a shopping service.

how old are you, man? you gotta be able to figure some things out on your own if you want to be a competent adult.

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will adding chains to my coord make it better

>>8691064
Yeah. Like roses and military lanyards.

>>8680528
his head looks really big??

RIP our thread. Could we have a list of ouji stores and second hand places in new thread op, please?

Where do you draw the line for "too feminine" for shoes? I'm a lolita and just curious because I'd like to dress in ouji one day and have seen everything from creepers to really high heeled baby fluevog replica style shoes worn with ouji

>>8685084
Glad to know I'm not the only one. Do you do anything to get them altered to make them fit better? I've got a ladie's size Azure vest, and the torso length is too short for me on the false vest, and while less important, is still a bit big on the bust. Thus why I went for the mens' size here. BUt it doesn't lok as god in this case due to the cut. I was thinking of seeing if I could put in a couple of darts on the centre side seam where the side front long panels meet the back panel. Think that could work?

>>8694095
I'd like to know also because I bought some MMM pieces that are more aristo than lolita and I'm having trouble picking out shoes for my outfits. I know platform/elevated shoes used to be popular but they can be hard to find the right type these days.

>>8694095
>>8694153
There's more femme and less femme ouji. I think fluevogs wouldn't ever look really good with it. Just simple granny/Vitcorian lace ups would go well with the more aristo stuff.

>>8694270
Seconding this. I have some calf length lace up stiletto boots with pointy toes which look great, and some of Demonia's platform boots. For aristo, going for cutesy shoes like tea-parties just doesn't work, will swing an outfit more lolita if it could be either aristo or lolita.

new thread >>8697142