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Okay so for the majority of my life I hated spiders. But I accidentally ended up here, and now I can see the appeal of them.

Thank you spidey bros of /an/

pic is the prettiest spidey imho.

centipedes are still scary though.

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>>4273
Congrats on curing your arachnophobia, anon. Good taste in purdy spider

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replying to the dude from last thread that said he doesn't have much room

you can cram a lot of stuff into very limited space

and you'll soon ask yourself "do I really need to be able to move in here or should I buy a few more spiders?"

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>>4275
Eh

It's the landlady I'm worried about. She doesn't really have beef with me doing it, but she's a very "Honest Abe" type person and I'm doing this both against he complex owner's permission and her knowledge, so whether or not I end up buying more, it'll most likely not be here. I don;t wanna lose a spider I've been yearning for for over half my life.

>>4276
I had the same problem but my landlord was surprisingly tolerant. I kinda just dropped it on him when I already had a little zoo going. He was quite alarmed and came over, I gave him a "tour" and he was actually ok with it after that.

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>>4277
Well ,let's hope I'm just as lucky

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>tfw Plistospilota guineensis male is starting to become nervous since he's been adult for quite a while
>female only molted a week ago

pls don't die
just two more weeks dude, I know you can do it

How long can these big spiders live outside terrariums made just for them?

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>>4280
NO one's been able to conduct studies on that, far as I know
Tagging a spider doesn't seem like it would be as easy or practical as tagging a dolphin or a bear.

>>4281
Even in cold places?

>>4282
wut

>>4279
keep him cooler and feed him less

>>4275
do they ever fight through the glass?

>>4284
That's precisely what I'm doing but its a warm room.

>>4285

Nah. Where that's a possibility I've put a piece of paper betwen the enclosures to block line of sight but for most animals that's not necessary as their vision is just too bad.

>>4282
You're thinking about releasing tarantulas in the wild and somehow becoming established, right?

If that was possible it would have happened already. There are no big north/south barriers preventing tarantulas from spreading further north but they don't, because they can't. It's just too cold for them.

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I should be getting spooder this weekend

I am excite

>>4289
congratulations fampai. what kind?

>>4290
Albo

>>4291
You getting a sling or adult? I really want an albo, heard their quick growing for a brachypelma.

>>4292
Actually I changed my order. I'm getting an A. seemanni. Adult grmale.

But yeah altos are fast growers for their genus

>>4293
Female

Curse this phone and my big fingers

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>>4293
Nice, they look pretty cute. Who are you buying from?

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>>4292
I've had my B. albos for 3 1/2 years and they're like an inch and a half long. I don't know why the fuck they're taking so long.

>>4293
What color form you getting? I have two of the blue kind. IME seemanni are a bit more skittish than North American aphonos, but very enthusiastic burrowers and fun to watch.

>>4296
They didn't specify. Judging by the picture they had, my money's on black

>>4295
Reptiles and critters

>>4275
>tetra brand food
Dropped

>>4272
>those long fingers
Nice try Drax, Lord of Gouvachech.

>>4299
It's the cheapest I could find and it's for my feeder insect colonies. Thermobia and dubias in particular.

>>4301
Ahh for insects. Never mind. Tetra has fucked my fishes water parameters even when not over feeding.

>>4302
Oh alright. For a second I was worried you were gonna tell me there's some awful stuff in there that I'm unknowingly enriching in my feeders and then giving to my animals.

>>4303
No. My only problem with tetra is they use ethoxyquin which has been rumored to cause many premature fish deaths.

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THE DUBIAS HAVE ARRIVED

and they're all hiding

Is this setup ok? Should I get more egg cartons?

>>4305
substrate m8, an inch is enough but the young burrow in there and they eat their parents feces for the first few molts almost exclusively

don't worry it doesn't smell if you keep it dry

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>>4306
Alright.

Staring to wish I asked before I put the roaches in. now i feel stupid

This is gonna be a pain in the ass.

>>4273
I've also been an arachnophobe all my life, and since coming to /an/ I've just forced myself into every spider thread I see. It used to be terrifying but now I can look at pics of even the freakiest tarantulas without it bothering me. These threads are great. I'd still probably shit myself if one appeared on me with no warning but now I can at least look at them in pet stores without getting the heebie jeebies.

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>>4308
You know what your next step is though, right?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=59NLFoowviw&t=325s

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>>4308
Sounds like you're about ready to get a pet spider. Get a tiny babby and watch it grow.

>>4309
Yes, I definitely want to try handling one sometime soon. They are very interesting animals.

> Seeking to turn my spare aquarium to a mantis home

Any guides or tips on starting up?

Do you guys think A. metallica is okay as a first tarantula? Thinking about getting a 1/2'' sling but I keep reading that avic slings are really easy to fuck up.

>>4313
They are actually difficult to handle.

>>4310
I found a new one today than I suspect it's female dendryphantes, that means the specie it's more than fine and if I find a male I can witness some never before seen mating dance.

>>4314
Really? Everyone seems to point to avicularia as the beginner arboreal species. Or does metallica behave significantly different from a. avic and versicolor?

>>4312
Make the top of the tank out of wire mesh for good ventilation. If you're looking to keep any mantis from the family Empusidae make sure it isn't metal mesh, as they could hurt their tender legs on it.

Keep some open spaces in the tank to allow molting.

Stay away from crickets, they are shit tier feeders for mantids.

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4/8 of my chinese mantises have molted without a hitch. Hoping the other 4 are all sorted out by this morning.

>>4313
Depends. Do you have experience with other inverts?

>>4315
Not really but people kept them too moist and without good ventilation for a long time and they really don't cope well with that. A box with good airflow (top + side mesh or lots and lots of air holes) and not too high humidity and they should be completely fine.

>>4312
How big is it? Not in gallons, the actual dimensions. An aquarium is generally not an ideal enclosure because it lacks cross ventilation, I'd get some clear plastic boxes instead, they cost next to nothing anyway.

There are several things you chould do. Most mantis species need to be kept solitary and you want to get them as small nymphs, your aquarium might simply be too big for that, at least initially so you'd have to set up some other boxes until your mantis is big enough to go into the aquarium.

There are some species that can be kept communally. Look into Gongylus, Heterochaeta and Phyllocrania (not too sure about this one). All of these, with the exception of Phyllocrania are considered "medium" difficulty though, not beginner species.

Other than that, do what >>4316 said. Except just don't use wire mesh ever, it just heats up and hurts their feet, regardless of species. Get fibreglass fly screen. Try to replace as much of the top with that as you can. You're gonna have to DIY it.

Decorate sparingly, very sparingly. They need open spaces to molt, at least 3x the length of the mantis hanging downwards, 4x is safer.

One or two halogen bulbs on the top to heat it up, check the temps before you put anything in.

Feed with flies of different sizes, no crickets, as >>4316 said.

Make really sure it doesn't get too humid in there, mantids die quickly in stuffy air (like I said, not cross ventilation in an aquarium).

>>4317
Nice m8. Good luck with the rest.

It might be a few days before they all molt though, the timing on that is pretty variable.

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SHE'S JUST A FEW HOURS AWAY, BOYS

I'm so hype right now
I've been waiting for this for so many years.

>>4321
Don't worry if the spider seems really sluggish and a bit dazed when you unpack her, that's just how they cope with the stress. They just need a few hours to a day to recover. Don't give her food yet, she needs peace and silence for a while.

>>4322
Okay, got it

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>>4311
You need to try it. They're crazy soft

>>4324
This is true, there are now words to describe just how velvety soft a tarantula is

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How do you debeak a headcrab?

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>>4326
with ur peepee

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>put P. guineensis female on plant on window so she can enjoy the sunshine
>give her a locust
>she catches and eats it, head first
>a few minutes later, suddenly wing sounds
>head of locust missing, half the prothorax missing
>somehow trying to fly like nothing is wrong
wtf

>later
>mantis almost done eating, gets to the end of the abdomen
>suddenly lots of locust eggs
>takes a bit
>stops eating
>has been staring at the eggs for the last 5 minutes, not sure what to do

Ok.

>>4328
I'd be kinda spooked to if a,) the fish I was eating started wiggling its tail and b,) encoded in a mass of caviar before my eyes.

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She's here

And she's beautiful.

I cannot tell you guys how happy I am right now. I've been waiting 14 years for this moment to happen and here it is. I cannot wipe this smile off my face

Now, her enclosure is coming in tomorrow, so i'm keeping her in this tupperware while she recovers from her trip. Will that be enough for her for the moment? Tupperware's about twice as big as her shipping container (pic related) and rectangular and 2/3 full of soil.

>>4330
Give her some sort of hide, place her away from the light.

>>4331
K

Also, she's got a 4' legspan. Is she ever gonna get any bigger than that?

My pinkie has been running in circles recently - something to be worried about? I'll call her name or make a noise and she'll stop for like one second before continuing to run in circles on our hardwood. The sounds of her scuttling is cute and all, but I'm worried.

>>4326
I've had enough of these entry level headcrab hobbyists inhumanely debeaking them! Everybody wants their own Lamar, unaware that she was in constant pain from the traumatic debeaking procedure. The risk of zombification is just the price you pay keeping these beautiful animals, and if you can't deal with that then get the fuck out of the hobby

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>>4333
Pinkie what? Pink toe?

They're pretty energetic, so i imagine she's just letting out some pent up energy

Either that or she's autistic

>>4330
Now that seriously cute. Have fun with your spider.

>>4332
She should get a bit bigger than that.

>>4330
Pro tip: Get cheapass RGB LED lighting kit (the TV moodlight stuff or similar), set it up abover her enclosure, set to red at night and watch your spider actually DO STUFF (!) without disturbing her.

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>>4337
sounds good

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>>4338
link to thread? should we educate these normies?

>>4339

>>/v/372315127

>>4340
whoops

>>>/v/372315127

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Educate these fuckers instead

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>>4342
>The Washington Compost
>Credible
>e v e r

O I am laffin
Even before their recent episode of eceleb dramas, they've been garbage.

>>4343
I know they're bad, but this is the same type of smear campaign they have against wolves.

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>>4344
And it better stop

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>>4341
I say we shat that thread up pretty good.

>>4346
You didn't shat up the thread. We highly enjoyed the spider/scorpion talk and it was lots of fun!

>>4307
>and anon was never heard from again
>his corpse was later discovered, stripped to the bone by roaches

>>4348
But anon
>>4330
this is me

>>4349
Well, did any escape?

>>4350
Nope. Got substrate in there and now they're all lazing around in it and totally leaving the egg cartons alone

>>4309
did he fuck the zookeeper?

>>4352
Not that i know of

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I'm in a bit of an /aphonopelma/ mood tonight

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>>4355
you're speakin my language

The Pamphobeteus nigricolor sling I got a few days ago seems to just sit outside without even attempting to hide. Is this normal or should I be worried? It's eating and not curled up but I find it rather strange that it's not using the hide I provided at all.

>>4357
Different individuals have different personalities. That said, i do hear pamphobeteus species like to stay in the open sometimes

>>4358
But as an L4 sling? Then again, he has some attitude.
I breathed into his little cup accidentally and rather than run away he actually came towards the source, quite rapidly too.

>>4359
Sounds like he's just a bold little individual.

>>4357
I have a couple slings like that, I sure hope they'll keep it up when they're big and pretty.

>>4362
>these file names

Are these your spooders or where are you getting these images from?

>>4363
>
Most of them are from archnoboards.

I only have one spoder right now>>4330

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>>4364
Only one spider, huh?

That's not gonna last very long I guess. I mean just look at this Chromatopelma cyaneopubescens. Very active spiders too. And cheap, like $30 for a decently sized one.

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>>4364
Speaking of her, I got her a new enclosure today.

Also, I couldn't help but notice her colors are kinda dim and brown. I know she's a blue morph, as I can see tinges of it on her chelicerae and prosoma, but it's kind of faded.

Is she getting ready for pre-molt, /an/? I know we aren't seeing the black bald patch on her yet, but is there any other indicators I should look for? She won't eat, but then again, I've been told her species isn't a very rabid eater. I know she's out of her post-transit grogginess because she walks around with ease now, so it most likely isn't that.

>>4366
>Is she getting ready for pre-molt
Could be, but be aware that the colors of tarantulas in images are often exaggerated, partly because of the flash, partly to make it look nicer. Especially iridescent blue is a lot weaker in person (unless you put your spider into sunlight). Also it's much more pronounced after molts and then slowly fades.

>>4366
In my experience, AF aphonopelmas only molt once every year or two.

>>4321
are you getting a fucking spider delivered in the mail?!

absolute madman.

what a world.

>>4368
She's only 4' right now. I don;t know how to tell if she's sexually mature, and she could easily be a subadult.

Should I provide an epigastric shot?

>>4369
that's the standard procedure m8, thousands of spiders and other inverts get shipped like that every week

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Hi /an/, my gf and I impulse adopted a tarantula we saw on craigslist. We have experience with inverts but not any tarantulas.

Her tank was LITTERED with silverfish. If I had to guess I'd say there was around 20-30 of them living in it. I had to transfer her temporarily into a tupperware container with a cup to clean the entire tank. Now she refuses to use the hide I bought for her in favor of the cup.

Her previous owners say shes around 11 years old and that she hasn't molted for a year or so, and that shes only ever been fed crickets. I tried to feed her a dubia roach but she didn't seem to be interested even though the roach was right in front of her. Is it possible that she only recognises crickets as food, or that she's molting soon? She has a bald spot and these weird white patches but she seems fine otherwise.

We also don't know what kind she is, but I'm guessing a g. pulchra. Pic related is her, that's her cup.

>>4372
Leave a dubia in for 24 hours and see if she eats it, a small one though, she might be intimidated by adults. You can also try killing a dubia and offering that.
If she doesn't eat then she doesn't eat. She looks well fed, half a year without food should be no problem.

Also just maneuver her out of that cup, she'll find the proper hide at night.

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>>4372
Poor baby..

but yeah, do what >>4373 this guy said, plus get her more substrate

>>4373
>>4374

Thanks for the advice! I added more substrate and took the cup out. Last time I did that she just sat in the corner but hopefully she'll find the hide ok.

>>4375
give her a day or two, or rather nights

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>>4337
would those light strips you put on aquariums work too? Or do the RGB lights behave in a way that's better for the spider or something?

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Ok, that's eight for eight successful molts for my chinese mantis collection.
I even had the privilege of seeing the final one in the act, albeit with no tripod at hand and poor focus and kinda translucent plastic

vid is sped up to 5x

>>4378
noice dood

Do mantids not have a good successful molt rate?

>>4335
Oh great now I have to take care of two autistic children.

I just wanted to make sure it wasn't some balance issue like other animals get - rabbits who run in circles for too long usually have an ear infection or something.

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>>4380
Congrats on your autistic spider, anon.

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My Rhombodera megaera female finished her final molt tonight. A pretty massive species.

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Also got a bit orange on the thorax now.

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>>4383

Very nice. You must have graceful hands. I would be afraid something would spook it and my clumsy hamfists would cause injury. I just dont feel I have the dexterity to handle such small delicate creatures with confidence.

>>4377
Doesn't really matter, I just use the cheapest stuff I can find. As long as you can set it to pure red it should be fine.

>>4385
On second thought, the RGP strips have the advantage that you can put them to white during the day to make it look nicer.

>>4378
Congrats dude. Now they just have to do that ~8 more times.

>>4379
Depends on the species and the conditions. Some mantids are pretty sensitive to the wrong conditions and if you fuck up they won't molt correctly. If the conditions are right it generally works though.

>>4382
>>4383
Neat. She's a big girl.

How big is she actually? Bigger than a Hierodula or?

>>4384
You don't really "handle" these animals. You let them walk on you as they want

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Since we are apparently /can/ now, post cute inverts!

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>>18325

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>>4387
>How big is she actually? Bigger than a Hierodula or?
She's about 9,5cm. Got another female at L6, so I'll see if that one gets any bigger.

Here's in comparison with a female ghost.

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>>18341
Nice, so that species is actually a bit bigger than the standard big guys, though not quite the size of Plistospilota. I never knew Rhomboderas could get this massive. New species on the wishlist then.


Do you have any males you plan to mate her with?

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>>18623
I wish I could show you the wings, they're gorgeous but I don't like harassing my animals

Fuck April fools day and fuck the mods who let obnoxious seen cancer flood this board.

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Well /can/?

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Invertebrates are cute, yes?

>>18846
It's just for one day(hopefully). /c/'s secretly mad too.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Diu2N8TGKA
I feel this is somehow relevant.
>>18877
Yes

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>>18877
Yes. Look at these cute tarantula feet.

>>18846
>>18877
>me they combined /pol/ with /mlp/

All is forgiven
This is absolutely hilarious

>>19128
>mfw
I hate autocorrect so much

>>19128
Hahahaha, he really did it the absolute madman. I was checking a few boards to see what else got combined but it didn't occur to me to check /pol/

10/10 absolutely perfect

>>19161
>al that butthurt

It is glorious is it not

>>2347065
Well, when I first mentioned that I was raising them from an ooth here I felt like the consensus was that keeping 4 would be risky since mantis nymphs are finicky and it's my first invert raising experience. So I was expecting a few fatalities but got none

This
>>19343
was meant as a reply to >>4379
but april fools happened

We're gonna need to bump this thread more often as long as this is going on

>>19861
That's the worst of it really

>>19343
It can still happen, and it usually happens completely unexpectedly. Don't be sad if you get your first death, it just happens some times. Could be a fungus, could be a birth defect or something else entirely but it's usually not diagnosable so these deaths are kinda just taken for granted. If they live to L5 it's usually very safe to say they're gonna make it.

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>>18623
Ye, I've also got a L5 male that is growing rapidly. It really surprised me how active of a hunter it is, always darts across the tank as soon as it sees prey.

The Plistospilota is looking amazing, I love the different green and brown tones it has.

>>20398
The weirdest sudden mantis death I've experienced was with a Hierodula. One day it put its arms behind the eyes(pic) and kept shaking as if it tried to rip its own head off. It died later that day and I have no idea what was the matter. Didn't even vomit or anything.

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She sure love her fake plants.

She's found the hide, and I've seen her use it, but seeing as how she's dug around the plants, I think she's made it her new little burrow. Kinda cute, really. Anyone else's spiders do this?

>>20451
Yeah, they decorate their tanks as they see fit. Some are like little bulldozers. Very persist too, don't try to put anything back in order, that's a fight you're not gonna win, the spider definitely has more patience than you.

>>20495
Oh, I never had any intention of forcing her to use her hide. If she wants to use the plants, it's fine by me. I can see her constantly, and she's all cute and cuddled up against the plants.

>>20512
What do you mean "cuddled up"? Like just crammed in there but with the legs relaxed or all curled up? Because the latter one would indicate discomfort.

>>20539
If anything. the lack of space between the plant and the terrarium are what's making her scrunch up, but you bring up an interesting point.

Her cage readings are 75 degrees, 60%humidity. Is there anything I should adjust? Should I mist her cage? Look for dry parts? Wet the substrate? What do you think could be wrong if it's not just crammed space that's ,making her behave like this?

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>>20564
If she's sitting like in the image everything is fine, that's just a relaxed spider being relaxed. Pic related is what you should be looking out for.

Temp and humidity are fine. You can let one half of the substrate dry out and see which side she prefers but other than that it sounds completely fine. They just like snuggling up into tight spaces, it makes them feel safe.

>>20564
I'll tell you what though, she seems to only really hang out around the edges of her enclosure. What does that mean?

>>20601
> like in the image
*like in the image you posted, that's a relaxed spider
my image is a spider in "death curl"

>>20601
yeah, I tried to place her elsewhere in the cage to see what happens, but it just looks like I just woke her up from her beauty sleep.

Still, I have to wonder about
>>20605
Maybe I'll do what you said with wetting one side and letting the other dry to see what she likes.

>>20605
>>20613
they just don't like open spaces, so they follow the walls, tarantulas are usually very shy and careful animals, open spaces are scary to them

at night she probably runs around the entire enclosure when she feel safer

if you want her to use the entire space giver her something to follow from the edge to the middle, like piecec of bark

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>>20624
>at night she probably runs around the entire enclosure when she feel safer

I just might install one of those lamps the other anon was talking about later then. There's traces of her being all active from last night, what with some silk laid down here and there. Could be really fun watching her waddle around and being curious.

>>20624
>if you want her to use the entire space giver her something to follow from the edge to the middle, like piecec of bark
I just might do that too.

why are big spiders and bugs so cute
but the small ones are creepy
except flies those r always gross

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>>20705
but smol spiders can be cute too

>>20740
up close yeah
but if i see one crawling i get scared because all i see is an outline essentially

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Can we have some molluscs?

>>20765
That'd be fine, yes

>>20765
Yes please. Post some cute snails and slugs.

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dunno if this count as cute

>>20802
>small colorful sea flap flap snail
>somehow not cute

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Notice how we get no /c/ posters in here? Is it because of the OP pic? Are normies really that scared of cute spooders?

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>>20820
this thread is a fragile ecosystem, we're trying to keep it a conservation area

>>20820
Is that your spooder

>>20887
No sadly not. I'd love to have a Grammostola pulchra but I haven't found one at a good price. Maybe I'll finally find out at the convention I'm going to tomorrow but the chances are slim.

>>20438
>put its arms behind the eyes
one of my friend´s P. paradoxa males did this too, a few weeks back.
But that fucker ripped his own head off..
He lived a few hours without a head, then she decided to freeze him..

really strange
Never seen it before, never seen it since, really interesting that one of your mantids did the same. Makes me wonder why

>>20808
don´t forget the fucking tentacle mouthparts they shoot out of their head when coming close to a prey item

>>20608
Seeing your spider in death curl is terrible.

>>21310
What usually characterizes the "death curl?"

because my girl has moved out to on top of her hide and her legs are still close together, but nothing's going under her. I feel scared. I just got her and I really hope she's not sick with anything.

>>21407
if she moves it's not a death curl m8, your spider is fine

you can also try softly breathing on her, if you get a reaction she's ok

>>20820
I only came to this board because of the April fools shenanigans. I gotta say this has been one of the most interesting threads. I don't know squat about spiders but being seeing you guys talking in depth is fascinating.

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>>21606
Alright, she's okay, thank goodness, Maybe I'm just a bit paranoid

>>22107
They're absolutely wonderful animals, m8

>>22107
Get one m8, talking about them is nice but having one is nicer. Amazing animals, if you have 80 or so bucks to spare (and yes, I mean $80 for full setup + spooder)

>>22202
Can confirm. Felicia was only 29 bucks.

>>21407
Curled up, usually with the legs below the body due to loss of hydraulic pressure.
And, obviously, no reaction to external stimuli.

>>22107
Spiders are great. I used to be quite arachnophobic, but it was always annoying to me, so I started to look up things about spiders on the net and watch videos.
This took about a year. After this I got my first spider, but she died last year due to a bad molt.
Didn't get to look for reputable sellers around here since then.

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>>22212
man, that sucks. Poor girl. What species was she?

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>>22228
Paraphysa Scrofa.
Copper on black ground.
Looked so great after the molt.

She used to present herself at the same spot all the time. That's where she died as well.

>>22251
Man, that's so sad shes gone. Here's hoping you have better luck next time, my man

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>>22251
Rest in peace little spiderbro.
Do you know what caused the bad molt?

>>22273
No idea.

>>22282
That sucks. Those deaths are always the most depressing, if you can't figure out what you did wrong and it leaves you in doubt if you could have done something to prevent it.

Do you still have any other spiders or was she the only one?

>>22288
The only one.
There are no reputable sellers in my area, so I'd have to rely on mail-order.
Further, I'd probably have to re-do the terrarium, but decent substrate is hard to get.

>>22304
>but decent substrate is hard to get.

no it ain't m8.

Even Walmart should have some organic soil you can use that's free of additives or chemicals. Mix that with some peat moss and coconut fiber and you're good to go. If no one sells coconut fiber around you, just order it online for like, 6 bucks.

>>22315
>implying I live in the US

>>20820
Well I guess I'd count as a /c/ poster, but I'd post cute scorpion[spoiler]girls[/spoiler] rather than spooders

>>22333
oh, now I see. Sorry m8

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I only people could love their fellow man as much as you guys love your spider babies.

>>22365
Because spiders don't behave illogically or based on feelings.

>>22404
>spiders don't behave illogically or based on feelings.

Well, I dunno.
Some can be silly sometimes.
But it's an endearing silly, rather than an annoying silly.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=af8NCAOSTY0&t=34s

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>>20451
I would give her much deeper soil. Both of my A. seemannis made big tunnel systems. If you put an upside down container in the bottom of the enclosure before you fill it with substrate, they'll have to burrow along the sides, so you can watch them underground. Sometimes you get a shy spider that will web over the "windows", though.

>>20912
>but I haven't found one at a good price.
You're not gonna. They take sooooo long to get big enough to sex. Either shell out a few hundred for a confirmed female, or buy a couple slings and prepare to wait the better part of a decade.

>>22333
You can probably find cheap bricks of cocofiber online. Mix that with additive-free topsoil and you'er good to go.

>>4383
You have such a lovely lady! What I'd give for one. Congrats. Really nice coloration and eyes.

>>19077
If I could pet my pink toe's footsies all day I would, but she'd likely not appreciate the sentiment.

>>21310
It's happened to me only once, immediately made an ER case for her with heating pad and the works, but it seemed I was too late. She was so docile and cute - really broke my heart watching her try to hang onto life. She really put up a fight at the end. I miss petting her cute lil legs ;___; any time my Ts decide to cozy up for even two seconds it scares me.

So these things are capable of affection?

>>23117
Nah.

>>23123
That's a shame

in case anyone from /c/ is actually interested, thread continue here: >>>/an/2344578

>>22936
I'll see what I can do to get her a better enclosure then. I bought a really shallow one hoping it would mean she couldn't fall, but I did see some aquariums earlier I could fill up deeper. How deep would you suggest?

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>>4382
>>4383
>>18341
>>18623
>>18658
Cool

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So uhhh.... Cute inverts?

>>23367
I try to make the soil 1.5-2x as deep as the spider's legspan. It's not necessary, but I like making sure my spiders have room to burrow if they need. One of them has sub filled nearly to the top, but refuses to burrow, it makes me feel claustrophobic looking at her enclosure, haha.

The more important part is keeping the distance from the lid and the top of the substrate no more than the legspan of the spider, but it sounds like you knew that already.

A large Kritter Keeper (or equivalently sized tupperware if you're cheap), should be good for her.

>>23820
K.

she seems kind of shy to burrow right now, but if she ends up digging and needs more to dig, Ill get her the new enclosure and fill it to the brim. I'm just glad she's using the hide now