Lain Thread Layer 43: Cloudy With Occasional Lain

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>>2965120

What's lain thread's interpretation of episode 13? I like hearing you guys' thoughts on the series.

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>>2965765
Not much to say. Lain sees that her actions have psychologically scarred Alice, and she decides the best thing to do is to erase her memory from the world. The world reverts to how it was before Lain, and as a result the new protocol doesn't lead to everyone becoming connected (or not since it seems like normal people can't enter the wired intact). Lain is surprised and disturbed that she still has to exist in the world where no one remembers her. She sees Alice in the future with someone else, and Alice seems to remember her, but although Lain says they might see each other again, they probably won't. It's a sad existence for Lain, all she can do is watch over our world and try to be a benevolent god. She brings her father into her world, I'm assuming so she has company. If you want my philosophical interpretation of it, I think there are some interesting parallels between Lain's godhood and the theologies of Hinduism, Buddhism, and Christianity, but that's another topic altogether. Also this moment right here always brings me damn close to tearing up. Lain's facial expression...

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>>2965791
>Lain sees that her actions have psychologically scarred Alice
I tend to see this as Lain returning to her self doubting and occasionally loathing self, especially when you take into consideration that Lain most likely had no idea that if she denied the god of the wired as a capital G God it would curse him with a physical body. Which means that it wasn't really her fault, but she still needs to deal with the consequences.
>I think there are some interesting parallels between Lain's godhood and the theologies of Hinduism, Buddhism, and Christianity, but that's another topic altogether
Please, I would very much like to see you go into this topic. By the way, I've seen some people claim that SEL proposes a theory that suggests why God, specifically our God, does not get involved with us mortals. Do you agree? If so could you explain this theory a bit further? Please excuse my curiosity.

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>>2965798
Regarding that theory about our God, I could see that being the case. It seems to be a theme in SEL that Lain's actions have unwanted consequences, and I imagine the same might be true for our God.
About the theology, from the Christianity point of view, Lain is very much a Jesus figure. Interpreting Masami as the father figure, God in heaven(the wired), creating Lain to exist in the mortal realm as a human, but with divine powers, much like Jesus. Interpreted like this, maybe the global unconsciousness, represented through Lain's sister, is the holy spirit. However, at the end of the show, Masumi is shown to be powerless at the hands of Lain, that doesn't fit with this interpretation.
Hindus (and Buddhists, since the two religions agree on this) have a somewhat different interpretation of gods than we do in the west. In these religions, gods are often depicted as having many arms or legs, not to imply they literally have many arms, but to grasp at the idea of a god as a force of the universe, able to be in many places and do many things at the same time. Lain certainly seems to have this property, existing everywhere in the wired. There also exists in Buddhism the idea that, through learning and meditation, an individual can become enlightened and can in extraordinary cases recieve divine powers, as in the case of Guanyin, the goddess of mercy. It /might/ be that Lain was indeed a perfectly normal human girl at the beginning of the series, and through enlightening and some extraordinary circumstances, gained her godhood in this way. That would run contrary to the idea that Lain was a goddess all along and only woke up to this fact later on. In my opinion though, there's probably truth in both these perspectives.

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>>2965798
Another idea in Hinduism/Buddhism is the idea that the entire universe goes through cycles of awakening, beginning in an infantile state of ignorance and slowly "waking up" as we all discover the truth of our existence.(This usually isn't regarded as a good thing by the way, it brings with it apocalypse and bad times.) I see a parallel between this and the show depicts an awakening the physical world begins to experience as the lines between the wired and the real world begin to blur. However, I'm struck by the line Lain says to herself in that last episode, when she says the Wired indeed isn't a higher level of the world, it is only a means of communication. What is Lain then? Where does she really exist? I guess that's the biggest question of the show. I've got no idea, but the show seems to say that Lain exists in our memories, the viewers of the show. That's her form. I don't think it's just a friendly send-off that the last scene of the show is Lain speaking directly to us.

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Some anons on /g/'s pen thread posted pic related.

Are pilot v-ball and v5 Lain's choice pen ?

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Well, my computer bit the dust this morning. And I was just getting to the good part of the psx game. Looks like I'm a phoneposter for a while. I wish Lain were here, I'm sure she could fix it for me...

>>2966235
you need a bear onesie to increase your problem solving skills and reduce electrostatic discharge.
sorry about your computer tho. any idea what went wrong with it??

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>>2966235
Did you lewd the Lain at all? I think she gets really embarrassed by that and might take it out on your electronics.

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>>2966254
That's true, Lain is rather self-conscious. It's probably why she didn't want to go to Cyberia in the first place.
Did anyone else feel like Lain's friends were a little bitchy at first? They really pressured her into going out in that first (second?) episode, even though she pretty clearly said she didn't want to, and of course, that turned out swimmingly.

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>>2966253
Yeah I could use a bear onesie in general. I think the graphics card is shot, and since it's a laptop there's not much I can do.
>>2966254
I uh... May have had some lewd Lains saved. But I never did anything gross with them, I only saved them cause one anon pointed out that they are the rarest. Funnily enough I thought of this possibility when my computer died. Also funny is that, this morning, my phone did a weird thing. Sometimes when I pull my headphone jack out, the music player start playing a random song although at zero volume. It did that today, and you'll never guess what song... Duvet. I wonder...

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>>2966272
A shame, you seemed an honest man.

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>>2966272
Well they ARE the rarest. And Lain is cute and beautiful even in the lewdness. To deny a part of her is something I couldn't do: forcing such artificial purity is, to me, worse than acknowledging it and accepting it.

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>>2966253
I actually bought a bear onesie at a convention recently.
They were showing lain so I wore it to the screening heh

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>>2966283
Hmm, I agree with you on the artificial purity thing. I feel like if you do that, it builds up and distorts your image of the person, and not just with anime characters. Besides, Lain isn't portrayed as completely free of lewd thoughts herself, especially in the game.
>>2966258
Tbh all Lain's friends except Alice never sat quite right with me. Maybe if the anime was a bit longer and developed them better I wouldn't have that opinion, but as it is they seem to have Lain's best interests in mind only superficially. I think Alice really did only have pure intentions though.

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From a purely aesthetic perspective, which Lain do you prefer, the anime version or the game version? I like the game Lain, but I'm too in love with anime Lain's hair color.

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>>2966338
I'm too in love with Lain!

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I'm playing the PSX game right now, but the game is very slow, for exemple, when i give Lain a command to walk forward she takes too long to respond, is it the way it should be or does it have some way of accelerating?
Also sorry for my bad english

>>2966365
I think there's a way to speed up the emulation with most emulators. I wouldn't recommend those though. They're usually very janky.

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>>2966365
That's pretty much the nature of the game, unfortunately. It's been a complaint since the game came out, the menu is in general very clumsy and slow. Like the other anon said, you could mess with the emulation speed but I've never tried that.

https://twitter.com/nakiriico/status/898893886055104512

Lain nation, could you help me out a little? This guy was working on a Lain fangame but has not sent a message in a while on Twitter. I Google translated his last non-reply Tweet, and it mentions something about death, as well as the replies mentioning him being in bed. Just in case, can someone with knowledge of Japanese translate this so we know how much we need to worry about? I'm getting kinda worried.

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>>2967612

According to my poor knowledge in Japanese, the first reply in the last Tweet means "You will not die".

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Is it just me who cried in Lain's scene talking to his "father"?

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>>2967622
Yeah that scene hits me harder than I would have expected. That along with this one for some reason. I think it resonated with me and my own parents.

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>>2967691
Lain has a lot of her underwear exposed there. What on earth is she doing when she's connected?

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>>2967756
It's to prevent static electricity from building up, b-baka!

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Some OC for you guys

what

Where would one get so many cute anime pics?

>>2968104
pls no

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Would Lain make a good Tulpa ?
What do you think about Tulpa ?
Did someone here try to create a Tulpa ?


I feel pretty lonely...

>>2968422
>Would Lain make a good Tulpa?
Only as good as you can make her.
>What do you think about Tulpa?
Could never make one. Maybe I'm not mentally vulnerable enough.
>I feel pretty lonely...
It's ok, lain will always be there for you, and so will I.

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>>2968439
I feel like I can't see her that much at this time anon. Thanks for your kind answers though.

>>2968445
Nice theme anon. Would you be willing to share it?

>>2968447
I just use 4chanX and oneechan scripts with the skins packaged in it.
Maybe I had to upload Lain's render though.

>>2968449
Oh. Thanks for the reply.

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LOVE
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>>2967612
i think they're just trying to say they're losing motivation and taking a break from twitter. 精神絶賛 is ambiguous to me but it seems like they're talking about twitter hype. I'm hoping this means they'll make some progress on the game and come back.

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>>2969814

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>>2969826

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>>2969967

>>2969814
>>2969826
>>2969967
>>2970072
We need more pics of Lain conducting cereal experiments

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>>2970184
This is the last one I have, by ABe himself. Translation: https://safebooru.donmai.us/posts/21380
I think there's a decent hardsub edit around here somewhere...

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stoned lain is best lain

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I kinda wish we had seen more of the wild lain from cyberia, it would have been cool to have seen her in action

>>2973221
yeaah.

i want an adult Lain, and she'd be like, super cheeky, and hot.

also, you guys delivered another great Layer.

New thread
>>2973772