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How many businesses nowadays are actual meritocracies?

Do your bosses pay and promote people based on actual talent and ability?

Help me out here /biz/, I want to find out whether actually companies do this or I'm chasing an empty, unfulfillable dream
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In my experience they try to. But, very often, what they are looking for is NOT what the employee thinks they are looking for.

Working hard, putting extra hours, that's all invisible to management.

It's a sales pitch, like everything else in life. You have to self-promote, make yourself visible, do extra in ways that add value without adding time like taking a leadership role in projects without being asked. Things like this
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github. look how that turned out
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>>1759888
Talent at upper-management is based around your ability to socialize and lead your suboordinates

Without presenting those you will never succeed beyond wagecuck jr. level.
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>>1759944
You're absolutely right, I've already witnessed a relatively unskilled employee outshine everyone because he just made himself APPEAR better than everyone else

I really dislike that people are able to do that though, this isn't how it should be

>>1759966
>upper-management
wew, I'm not that far yet
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>>1759888

If you are skilled, but not liked, you will be kept in the same position, given some bi-yearly pay-raises, and that's it.

Bosses want the skilled to keep adding value in their field of specialty

Good social skills will make you advance, even if you are underperforming comparing to your collegues.

For leadership you need charisma and drive, not skills.
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>>1759980
Don't ever worry about how things "should" be unless you intend to change it. You'll only create needless frustration.
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>>1759991
>leadership
Nah, I don't want that, not yet at least
I just aim to be a higher-level specialist

But otherwise you're right

>>1760035
My idea was leaving for another company that better recognizes my ability
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>>1760040
That's fine, you can leave if you want. In fact, t might be a good move. But what I'm saying is don't stew over this kind of shit, it'll make you crazy. Either let it go or get on board.

Chances are, though, that this will be happening at the new job too.
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Meritocracy is only for the private sector.

Try working for a government contractor. Literally EVERYTHING promotion related is based on race & politics.

If you are young & black & the public sector, the sky's the limit... people will literally throw titles at you and ride you up to the top.
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>>1759888
>Do your bosses pay and promote people based on actual talent and ability?

It depends what you mean by talent and ability.

The people who climb the ladder are usually the people with good interpersonal skills as well as professional competence.

Being good at your job isn't enough. You have to be good at getting along with others.
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>>1759888
If its actually meritocratic, then it would be ideal, however, there are no true meritocratic system anymore. In ancient China, a lot was done to protect the identity of people applying for government jobs and meritiocratic system was well crafted to get the best candidates regardless of their income/looks/family connections.

In modern society, there is no anonymity protection when applying for jobs. Your name alone gives away your race/ethnicity as well as your family/history with online search. The type of college/university you went to gives away your wealth status.

Its pointless.
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>>1760073
That sounds like hell, hope I never end up there

>>1760255
>a lot was done to protect the identity of people applying for government jobs
Why is this no longer done nowadays?
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