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I have an idea that will earn money but no initial capital. What

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I have an idea that will earn money but no initial capital. What do I do?
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>>1693938
tell us your idea we'll tell you if it's shit

if your idea is good, have some fucking balls and use a credit card whatever it takes. we'll tell you if it sucks though
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>>1693938
what's your credit score
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>>1693972
Well I was thinking of hiring cute girls at slave wage to clean. I figure cost is only wage uniform and cleaning material and advertising.

Looks like you guys are suggesting I get a loan lol. I guess I'll just save some money first cause loans are scary.
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>>1693972
>have some fucking balls and use a credit card whatever it takes.

This. if you have a "good idea" OP then it'll be worth your while to bust your ass and save up money to put invest into it.

Also remember, not that anyone will ever give you venture capital, but remember that no body likes to be the first person to sink in money: if you can put your own money into a company even if it's not fully funded you give potential investors a lot less to worry about.

Also what you can do is create working prototypes of your business/product/service that can be realized on a smaller scale, or bootstrapped.

In other words: Kneepads.
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>>1693981
There are a lot of ways for attractive women to use their bodies to make money and most of them pay quite well and don't require a significant amount of physical work.
Why would they want to work for you if you're going to pay them minimum wage?
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Alright so the response here is get money and start small. Once you get good take money from revenue and get bigger.
I feel so dumb I wish I realized this
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>>1693987
Because I will hire the stupid ones who don't realize how to use their assets
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>>1693938
If you have a decent credit score I'd get a long term loan and try to pay it off gradually. If you have shit credit score but a good idea try to create a prototype and use whatever available funds to create a professional gofundme or patreon account. Better be good quality no nigger tier presentation.
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>>1693988
I will prey on the desperate ones.
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>>1693938
I think your idea is shit. Just tell stupid, hot women you have a business to fuck them but don't really start the business
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>>1693991
Nvm I read your idea and it's fucking your idea op and it is fucking autistic kys
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>>1693938
that's amazing. certainly you have a business plan, projected costs, and estimated profits. above you already probe the market to see if there is a market in the first place, right?

with all these you easily could approach any small bank or union to make a presentation and apply for a loan. and of course, you have assets to back it up.
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>>1693994
I don't wanna do that tho. They might get mad. Hot chicks are usually cray and you don't want cray mad at you
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>>1693990
Where are you going to find women who are attractive, willing to use their bodies to make money, and unaware of how much money is in stripping and whoring? It's not like it's a big secret that good strippers make hundreds every night or that hot escorts can charge $500/hr as long as they don't mind fucking a few creeps.
You're going to need more than just two or three.
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>>1693997
Well I mean I'll do those later but I am trying to figure out what I need to do. Thank you for informing me
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>>1694001
High schools. Ppl are dumb some also have self esteem. I'll prey on the ones that don't want to whore and respect their body who also would like a job
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>>1694001
Have you never been to a bar? Hooters? Basically any restaurant?

Also escorts don't charge $500 a hour. Not even here in LA. $200 is about average. Even the hottest escorts around here make maybe $5k a month and that's it. Follow them on Instagram or Snapchat.

And not every woman with "assets" wants to be a whore for losers like you.

Graduate high school bud.
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>>1694006
>the ones that don't want to whore and respect their body
They aren't going to like dressing up in skimpy outfits while some creeper watches them dust a shelf.
Not for minimum wage, anyway.
Not to mention, if you hire high school girls for a job like this you'll probably get your ass kicked by an angry father.

Your idea sucks.
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>>1694021
Projecting this hard
I never once said skimpy. I mean I can make it available where they can choose prude or skimp uniforms is only going to affect their tip. Sure some might whore on the job but as long as I get paid idc. And if the customers just want some clean house they can have that too
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>>1694021
I think it's great idea. Thanks for all the helpful anons.
I'll go draft what this guy said and get started
>>1693997
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How do you have no initial capital?

Get a job, save away money til you have a good amount in the bank. From there, sell everything you own that isn't completely necessary. Downsize your life and live frugally. If you still don't have enough money, take out a loan. Pour your heart out into your idea, because if you just half ass it and don't put your life on the line, you will fail just like over 80% of business owners.
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I mean I just thought of this line just now so all my capitals are for me rn. I can save some for this idea but it takes time.
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>>1694025
So your idea is just a maid service, then.
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>>1694044
Yeah, why reinvent the wheel lol. I mean it's proven to work I just need to make it happen
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I think 100k should be enough for a 6 month project. If I'm not taking greens in 6 month I should shut down. Is that a reasonable amount and a reasonable time frame?
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>>1694030
>take out a loan

This is the stupidest piece of advice for anyone. Don't get a loan to start a business. You may consider a loan while your business is flourishing, but the best course of action is to find investors. If OP has a tech startup, ycombinator is good for seed money and mentorship. There are other investment agencies.

Never fucking take a loan out on a business you think "might" work. A majority of small businesses fail and by taking out that initial loan and going into bankruptcy, you not only lose reputation but a chance for a loan in the future.
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>>1694047
And how do you plan to compete with other housekeeping services?
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>>1694062
Steal their customers cause our girls are waifu tiers certified by me. And I'll go find new customer bases. Bring more to the table than they do per dollar spent. If I need to be more affordable I can do what I need to adjust or better quality then better training. Just be better
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>>1694060
How the fuck is op gonna get investors. He has no idea wtf he is doing. And he has a shit maid service idea with no experience in house keeping or management. If I was an investor I'd tell him to fuck off
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>>1694066
>wifu material guaranteed

Op is autistic
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>>1694068
So mean lol. can you tell me why my idea is shit? It would satisfy me greatly.
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>>1694075
That was a joke. Jesus, can't we talk like friends here
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>>1694066
Why would I hire a cute girl who's likely going to do a shit job when I could hire a middle-aged Mexican who'll do a better job for the same price or less?
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>>1694068
>If I was an investor I'd tell him to fuck off

Family and friends can be considered investors, but there are plenty of idiots with capital willing to roll the die on dumb ideas. Op's idea isn't going to pan out, it is a bad idea. Too susceptible to sexual harrassment or illegal prostitution.
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>>1694080
Who said I'm going to provide a shit service? I could make those Mexican girls trainers lol they never go to houses but train new girls
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>>1694076
Ok answer this:
Are u experienced in management or housekeeping?

What stands out from other services?

And how are your investors going to benefit from it?

And don't say the maids are gonna be hot
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???
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>>1694084
Agreed and theft is very common in housekeeping
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>>1694084
I thank you for pointing out legit flaws

>>1694086
1 no
2 it's going to be better price/service
3 they make money?
Our maids are totally going to be hot
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>>1694085
You're losing money by doing that.
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>>1694084
>>1694089
I'll hire the girls as contractors so they sue them instead
>>1694092
Mexican labor is cheep
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>>1694060
>Never fucking take a loan out on a business you think "might" work.
if you're not 100% confident in your business you shouldn't bother with it at all. taking a loan is perfectly acceptable if you're willing to put in the work to make your business succeed
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>>1694090
>I don't have any experience in this field or in management in general
>I'm going to pay my employees minimum wage to compete in an industry where most employees are paid minimum wage
>I have no idea what the costs will be or what my projected profits are
>My only business strategy is hoping that people would rather have hot maids than trustworthy, hard-working maids

>>1694095
>I'll hire the girls as contractors so they sue them instead
So you aren't even going to offer any kind of guarantee to your customers that your employees are trustworthy or competent.
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>>1694090
Ok you admit to having no experience in housekeeping and management. And even if the investors are family they're not going to give you money. Your idea is flimsy. Poorly thought out. Too risky and unlikely to yield profit. I'm telling you it wouldn't get off the ground.
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>>1694099

Confidence doesn't make a business work.
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>>1693938
Ok I recommend that you learn about housekeeping services by reading up on them or try shadowing a successful one in your community. Try marketing trustworthy and hard working maids. Learn about occupational hazards try to avoid them. Forget about sexy maids. Do heavy background checks and strict policies on the maids to ensure that they don't steal. and word of mouth is all the marketing you need cause rich friends love to compare with each other.
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>>1694020
> doesn't understand tipping
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>>1694101
>>1694102

had to switch id cause fone died
>no experiance
i'll hire someone if i have to and absorb his knowledge before i curb him or a dare i say it a "consultant"
>peanut wage no incentive
i'll pay paenut +0.01
>no projectd cost revenue
i'll do the math when i am actually sriously considering this rn its just for fun
>hot != hard working
that idea is flawed
>contract no responsibility
lol they have to be trustworthy and shit cause its on them if they fuck up. i do the hiring and training so i'll make sure they get someone hot and good

>>1694112
thx
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>>1694112
they are still going to be hot
now they are hardworking and background checked + hot i'll get a couple uggos for the more affordable pricing plan lol
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>>1694123
First off by hiring a consultant you're losing more money.

Sexy women are not working peanut wage get that through your head.

Lastly any actions on their part reflect poorly on you and your business. People will avoid you services all together. Then they will tell their friends about how shitty your maids are. Fucking you over harder
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>>1693972
>if your idea is good, have some fucking balls and use a credit card whatever it takes


99% of all startups die

if you start out with a credit when you don't even really have a concept of trading equity and consistent value the credit route will fuck you in the ass long term faster than you can say bye.
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>>1694129
You didn't learn at all did you
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>>1694134
>First off by hiring a consultant you're losing more money.
i can hire a manager who knows their shit and pretend its a full time management job before i can them for redundancy. its cheaper than consulting with the same result
>sexy woman dont want peanuts
yes but desperate ones do. the worker supply is not going to be an issue here.
>maids gone rouge
you know i have some sense of judgement right? i am not hiring stupid in competent maids. that argument could be used for any maid service. that one nets you no point friendo
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>>1694136
That was when we thought he was making some new ai or Silicon Valley shit. Not his hot shit stain of a housekeeping service.
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i miss the (you)s
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Op is an autist. There is nothing I can do. Bye bye
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>>1694137
why cant they be hot and all those things?
i don't understand, those are not exclusive traits
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>>1694153
no dude i think you are just really negative for no reason
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>>1693938
You have three options:

1. Wageslave and save until you have enough capital (least time effective)

2. Get a business loan or use credit cards (most risky to yourself financially)

3. Get a business partner (will eat away at your future profits if your business takes off)
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>>1694161
>Wageslave and save until you have enough capital (least time effective)
im considering doing this then
>>1694161
>Get a business partner (will eat away at your future profits if your business takes off)
then buy the shares back if the business is good
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>>1694143
>yes but desperate ones do.
Desperate ones would go into stripping or whoring or Hooters.
If they aren't willing to do any of those then they aren't going to want to be going into strangers' houses dusting shelves for $9/hr while working for a company that advertises itself mostly on the appearance of its employees.
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>>1694175
there is a scale of desperateness I'll pick the one that are just ripe and leave the over riped ones to rot on the streets
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>>1694182
I am positive you have no idea what you're talking about.
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>>1694175
btw slightly off topic but i am detecting a strong sense of misogyny from you. there are self respecting women who don't mind flaunting their body while working a respectable job. think of this as a tease not a full blown naked girl k? i hope this comment resolves some of that misunderstanding you have with girls (they aren't all money digging whores)
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>>1694185
you can think however you like man!
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>>1694186
>saying that not all women are willing to use their bodies for money means that you think women who use their bodies for money have no self-respect
Nigga you high
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>>1694191
i never said all women bruh. you are the one making that assumption i said there are women desperate enough to do things like this yet still respect themselves enough to not whore. there are 7billion ppl half of them girls and there will be enough girls that falls with in my and your condition of not b a whore but want to make some dosh
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>>1694199
Women who don't want to be literal whores but don't mind being objectified for money have options that pay better than cleaning houses for the same wage as all other housekeepers.
What about this are you not understanding?
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>>1694201
objectify != prostitution and stripping
those are like completely different levels what are you talking about.
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>>1694201
slutting up is for their tip they don't have to if they dont want to but they still have to be pretty lol
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>>1694205
How dim are you?
Prostitution and stripping aren't the only options, they just pay the best.
An attractive woman working as a waitress is going to make more than an ordinary waitress, who already makes more than a typical housekeeper after tips. This is something even the most prudish woman wouldn't have a problem with, and it doesn't require spending hours inside a stranger's house.
A Hooters waitress probably makes even more.
There are also a lot of ways to make money by being attractive on the Internet.

Your strategy is "hire attractive housekeepers for less than what ugly housekeepers make" and that's retarded.
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>>1694209
>>1694209
>"hire attractive housekeepers for less than what ugly housekeepers make
i never said this statement i said slave wage as in the minimum i have to pay for them to still be employed. they can dress provocative for their tips idc i just want my cut.
think of this as a hooter girl coming to your house and do your chores. i think you are kinda dim desu
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>>1694209
their wage would look something like this (base pay + tip) tip is going to be (attractive modifier + quality of service)
if they want to get more money just be prettier do slutty things and work harder thats it. im not cheating them out of their fair share
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>>1694215
>i never said this statement i said slave wage as in the minimum i have to pay for them to still be employed
The median wage for a housekeeper is a little over $9, which is above minimum wage.
You want to hire attractive girls for fuck-all money but you're competing for workers with restaurants and strip clubs where those girls will make more, likely for less work.
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>>1694223
dawg i don't know what kind of strip club you being to but that shit is hard work yo. pretty cardio intensive. waiters always bitches about how their feet hurt and what not. avg maid service is 150 dollars. i'll pay them a base pay of peanuts + enough to make them not quit which will be under 20 dollars there is no way they would get the same kind of money waiting tables and shit for the same amout of work. if they do it fast they can just do enough houses in a couple hours and go home not have to wait 8 whole hours like a waiter or strip the entire night away
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Imposter
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>>1694239
wrong thread
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>>1694154
If they were hot and all those things, they wouldn't be working for a pants-on-head retard like you. They'd be out actually making something of themselves.
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