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hey /biz/, can someone explain the great recession, the " global financial collapse" and in general how business and economics works to someone whos semi financially illiterate. I know it started back in 2008/2009 and it was riding on the housing market and over inflated stock market and everything came tumbling down 6 -7 years ago and the world is still slowly crawling out of it, it was pretty bad for a while millions lost their jobs and millions lost their homes and many big companies went out of business or were on the brink of collapse, I want to figure this out so I know what to prepare for in the future and learn from it and to find a way to exploit it and make money out of it in the future, please /biz/ someone whos a business major or who has knowledge of this stuff explain stuff like the great recession and how stocks and economics works to me, thank talk soon /biz/nessman!
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>>1100174
Basically the economy was doing growing and banks were handing out loans left and right.

Since the economy seemed to be doing so well, nobody worried and people took lots of loans.

Loans proved a very profitable investment, especially real estate loans. You see, amidst all this lending and buying the prices of real estate went up and up and up! So lending to someone who wanted to buy a house was incredibly low risk. If he paid back, well he paid back and your profit was the interest. And if he defaulted, you got the house for which the loan was taken. By that time the house was worth more than the initial loan and thusly, you could make profit regardless of whether the debtor paid back or defaulted.

Then once banks ran out of low risk loans to give, they figured they could still keep making money by giving out riskier loans and disguising them as safe

There were lots of complicated transactions done with loans, and there were these things called CDOs. A CDO was a bunch of loans put together and then sold as one security. Basically people invested their money into investment funds and those funds bought CDOs. This is important, because now banks gave absolutely no shits whether the loans were good or not, ie they gave no fucks whether people paid back or not. They gave out the loan, and sold it as part of a CDO. The buyer carried all the risks involved with the loan.

It was like the hot potato game with a timebomb. It was obvious this shit would blow up, but if you were quick enough to sell the hot potato to someone else before it happened, you made profit and were off the hook.

Once the real estate prices skyrocketed to the roof and it became extremely fucking obvious to absolutely anyone how overpriced they were, the prices plummeted.

This fucked everyone over and soon people ended up with debts that were bigger than the values of the houses they were taken on. So if they defaulted, the would actually gain money.
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>>1100200
And once everyone started defaulting, lots and lots of people with their money invested in CDOs, the real estate and whathaveyou lost the huge majority of it. Lots of banks went bankcrupt and those that didn't stopped loaning. All businesses dependent on loans for their everyday stuff we're fucked and had to lay off people to not go bust and still remain solvent.

So yeah once shit hit the fan everyone holding a potato lost, and as a chain reaction, others suffered as well.
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Will China or commodity/oil loans go to shit this year and will it spark a similar crisis?

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So about a year and a half ago I bought about 70$ worth of stock related to marijuana, thinking that with the legalization in CO, at least some of them might increase in value. Now they've depreciated to less than 10 dollars! What the hell happened to marijuana stock. I've checked on quite a few other companies related to the plant, and they've all plunged.
I ask you guys why? What is going on here, and do you think i'll ever see them increase in value again?
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>>1100148
did you think the value of marijuana would really go up after legalization???

its just a plant. Over the next 5 years I would expect the spot price of a pound of marijuana to go down dramatically. you may one day recoup your losses if the marijuana industry becomes big enough, which is totally possible given that it was a 1bn dollar industry in colorado, but who knows how long that would take.
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Everyone else thought they'd appreciate with legalization too.

The only thing that got high were the owners and govt income.
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DUDE

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How much education does a self-owned company actually need?

I mean, obviously you need to have your knowledge in economics, but what else?

I'm thinking about starting my own Snus Company as I live in Sweden where it's very, very popular and loved. Have allways dreamt making my own Snus and selling it. I think that the key to selling Snus is all about a catchy Snus-Title and a good taste, but mostly the Snus-Title.. I'm thinking of something like "Torped" (Torpedo in Swedish).

Any advice on how to get started? What's the minimum amount of cash required to start a brand like this.
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>>1099805
>Torped
Haha fyfan Martin. Du kommer bli så jävla rik xdd
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>>1099809
Några förslag på bra namn?

Have not decided yet, will eventually settle for a good title if I ever get it started.
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>>1099821
"Fhürer, mäktigare än General."
Köp knäskydd och läppbalsam Martin.

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Is RIGHT NOW the ideal buying opportunity? Has the global stock market correction been completed?

Please respond
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>>1098844
bull trap
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>>1098844
The market jumped on the news of the Russians and Saudis meeting for an oil discussion.
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>>1098847
What do you think gold's doing? It seems pretty inflated right now too. Sell for a modest profit or hold for sick gainz?

Someone explain to me how we are not headed towards a major, MAJOR depression with an impending currency crisis.

I am under the impression, per our graph here, that we have increased the monetary base by 400% due to QE.

What has kept the markets from responding to such a massive devaluation?

Looking for honest discussion.
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Although it's wrong, you should then logically expect values to appreciate by 400%, the devaluation is only reflected in term of other currency but that being said QE is happening in eu and china so idk
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>>1098440
There will be another recession in 3-8 years that will just be another good opportunity for young/inexperienced people to shift to a higher class. It happens every decade, and the reason it will never be "MAJOR!!!" is that there are plenty of people to exploit, both at home and around the world, to keep everything moving forward. On the other hand people think that a power outage for a few days or unusually bad traffic are tragedies, so you'll still be able to entertain yourself with "MAJOR" news stories about how hard life is for overweight Americans who can't find a sale that week or something.
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>>1098459
3-8 years...

You're crazy. The recession is already here. It will be a long recession given the nature of the recession. We might be out of it by 2020 if govt. doesn't fuck shit up worse.

This one is going to be many multiples worse than the Fin. Crisis for people who are unprepared.

So /biz/
What should an economics/math student be doing while still in college in order to not get fucked over upon graduation? I've started looking into internships, but don't have plans for student organizations or anything like that. What kinds of experiences are employers looking for?
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>>1098060
Internship above all

Do NOT let yourself graduate without one.
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>>1098060
Start working asshole. There are a million others just like you. Get yourself an edge. Get yourself an internship.
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>>1098065
This, experience is way more valuable than a degree these days. Internships are more important than actually going to class these days. Listen to this anon.

Is it really hard to make 30% profit 25 times?
Starting with 1000$ if you make a profit of 30% 25 times you will have 700,000. From than on you can scale down and aim for 0.05% per year. Making about 35000. Even if you lose the 1000$ you can start again from scratch. I really think this is the only way to actually make something out of trading. Whether it's stocks, futures or forex. Any other way takes too much time and it's practically useless with 1000. Other than learning.
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0/10
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>>1097918
>Is it really hard to make 30% profit 25 times?

yes
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>>1097918
No, it's very easy.
Why, do you think, are the people on /biz/ so rich?
Literally everyone here has at least 2-3 millions.
All they kept doing was what you said in your post.

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This thread was created to prevent anons from spamming new threads, for technology questions they have.
If you are that person, post your simple/small/stupid questions here

Don't bump. This is a slow board, and will continue to be. Wait for an answer or google it.

If you see other anons posting questions outside this thread, ignore or redirect them here
Use >>>/biz/sqt as a link to find the sqt thread

Naturally, I'll go first. Out of Mint, nYNAB and mvelopes, which is the best to use. been looking to YNAB but want something as automated as possible and track pending transactions.
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So I current have a Credit Card with $1121 being used and my credit limit is $1100 so I am over. I have an installment loan in which I owe $2770 to which I pay $200 a month but would like to pay it off sooner. I have a 401(k) Retirement Account with about $5000 in it so far (I am 22). I am able to take out a $1500 loan from my 401(k). I am thinking of doing this and paying off the Credit Debt and possibly pay off Installment Loan sooner but I wanted the advise of the general public before I go on with this.
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Is that bra too small for those tits?
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>>1095225
You are withholding too much every check for your 401k.

Change the withholding % and borrow the 1500 to pay it back then pay the 1500 back next month

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Hey /biz/, I have an opportunity where I could be making about 50,000$ a month, any anons know of any chemical chemical companies in your country? Doesn't matter where. Thanks.
P.s. I'm not intrested in ethereum desu
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>>1100170
Tell us more
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http://www.forbes.com/global2000/list/#industry:Diversified%20Chemicals
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>>1100173
Company A needs a list of chemicals at a set price, I need companies who I can contact and nagotiate a price lower than that of company A's asking price, so I make a profit. Tell me if you want the chemical list, if it will help.

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Hi all, first time posting. As someone who grew up in a tax haven next door to a largely socialist state, I'm curious as to what your thoughts are on this.

How right or left do you lean economically speaking?

How do you think your ideal would affect your individual quality of life and that of your countrymen?

How does it affect the development of your country?

I know this goes hand in hand with libertarian/authoritarian leanings but I'd ask that you focus on the economic results of this rather than the social.
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Here's a cute photo of a cat a dog and a bird together.
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>>1100181

That's lovely mate but it doesn't really answer my question(s)
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>>1100167
Ideally you want minimal regulation for maximum efficiency. But that makes your country a shithole (CHINA THE LAND OF SMOG). So instead you can maximize your citizens comfort but slow development because you banned construction from 5pm to 10 am because it hurts people ears.

Best case is to keep regulations high and just export your dirty operations to other countries or states. (USA OR CALIFORNIA ).

OR EVEN BETTER keep you own country clean and sell completely unregulated garbage to others.

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What where these guys told?

Bonus points for recent.
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>And then they said "TO THE MOON"
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"A 2-party system... 1990 and these people still think they have any control over what happens!"
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>and then we said super PACs provide crucial funding for candiates to get their message out but have no influence Congress

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Why didnt you buy the dip on bombardier when you had the chance? I have good reason to believe the canadian federal government will cut them a big cheque soon.

In short

>cheap as fuck
>canadian and quebec governments will never let it go out of business
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>>1098556
i would rather invest in mexico than canada desu senpai
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>>1098556
>I have good reason to believe the canadian federal government will cut them a big cheque soon.

Ok, why do you believe this?
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>>1098611
Nvm, I know now

http://www.fool.ca/2016/02/16/is-bombardier-inc-a-buy-on-governance-change-rumours/

Interesting OP.

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What are the pros and cons of paying employees with a % of the profits instead of a fixed income?
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>>1097841
The cons is that you can't be a massive jew and just keep the profits to yourself.
There are no pros.
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This can very cheap if it's a new company and you cannot afford a full salary such a position would command.

It's also a good incentive for employees to put a lot of hard work in.

Cons are that it is expensive once it matures.
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>>1097846
Of course there are pros. They will work harder because they'll know why they are working for. Not to mention they'll be happier and respect you more...

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This already made me 30K last time it went up. Currently ready to explode with minimal risk. Pic related ticker is TBEV.

You poor Autists are welcome.
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shameless chick bump for profits
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100$-100K confirmed
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>>1099617
>with minimal risk

Do index funds distort the market?

Or WILL they distort the market with increased popularity?
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>>1099511
No and no. While index funds do not require any active management by the investors, indices on a whole are still actively managed ie apple and the DOW most recently.
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>>1099511
What kind of index funds are those?
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>>1099511
People keep making this silly argument against index funds. It doesn't make sense. Index Funds don't distort anymore or any less than regular funds do.

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