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>be 17-19 years old
>make $10/hour
>20 yo make $15.50/hour
>21-22 (current age)
>make $21/hour
>still poor

Fuck what do you have to make to actually be able to save decent money (10k+) I'm guessing 100k a year with no kids and maybe I'll be able to save
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>mfw 21 making 110k and fiance making 65k

Try working smarter, not harder
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>>1384622
Oh, forgot to mention I put 40k a year into savings and investments.
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>>1384622

>its a faggot whos been handed everything with zero effort lectures people episode

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You guys hear any good rumors lately? Have a bit of cash I'm sitting on.
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>>1384566
i heard that europe is fucked. dow jones up! up! up!
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>>1384566
KNPD is a sure thing
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yeah i heard KNPD is merging with SUCC.

$$$

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Hi /biz/

I'm trying to decide which kind of house loan is better for me, and I'm hoping for some advice

House is $285k
30 year fixed rate is quoting 3.537% APR
15 year fixed rate is quoting 2.850% APR

I'm putting up 30K as down payment

resulting in a monthly payment of
30y: $1,452
15y: $2,048

My debate is is it better to save that ~$600/mo and try to invest

or bite the bullet and try to pay as little interest as possible.

my total paid at the end of the loan math works out to
15y: $312,871
30y: $416,036

A little about me, right now I pay 1.9k a month on a rental and am saving $500/mo to help afford down payment, so the cost of either of these will be less than what I'm paying right now with rent+savings. I make 90k/year, and other than what I'm saving up for down payment I have pretty much nothing in savings other than my 401k
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>>1384528
Paying off loans is for suckers. Get a short term loan with a small interest rate, only pay the interest. Then after 10 years or do take out another loan and pay off the old loan. Repeat forever
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>>1384528

if you plan to move 3 times within the 30 years you will be better off to have just rented and invested in indexes (by historical returns)

you're a smart guy, but when I buy my house I'm going to attempt to pay my house off within 10 years. Not sure if I'm doing 15 or 30 year though.

just know if you do a 30 year mortgage and keep moving you're fucking yourself of gainz
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>>1384528

Open up an excel spreadsheet, and put in your mortgage payments/balance.

Now, calculate your net worth after 15 years if you took the 15-year mortgage.

Then, assume some interest rate for investments (say, 5-6% in some index fund), and assume you pay the 30-year rate, and dump the $600 difference into investments every month.

Compare your net worth under each plan after fifteen years. Pick the plan with the higher net worth (hint: it's the 30-year mortgage.)

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Told you so. doubled my money and still soaring goes to show don't listen to /biz/.
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who else has invested in bombardier?
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>even a broken clock is right twice a day
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>>1384449
Bombardier going up?

... b-better buy buttcoins!

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WHICH ONE OF YOU FUCKS TOLD ME TO BUY
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only two memes you should go all in on are MNKD and NXTD.

everything else is, and will remain, a meme.
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>>1384423
Why are they called meme? I never really understood that
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>>1384423
I'm never trusting you faggots again.

I'm sticking with safer bets like AMD and Sprint which have done me solid the past couple months unlike meme stock SAEX.

I even remember the smug Pepe that /biz/fag shilled the stock with. Pic related.

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Hi Anons. I'm going to be attending a Liberal Arts School starting this fall. It's not a top school, but it's decent (top 75 LAC).

Anyways, I already know I want to major in Economics. However, with all the AP credits I have, I have come to the conclusion I'll be able to double major pretty easily. You take 36 courses, and I need to take about 10 or 12 more to fulfill my general graduation and major specific requirements.

Because I'll be able to potentially finish up Economics my second year, I figure a double major might be a good solution. Being a LAC, many of the degrees are meme degrees, but after narrowing them down I came to these possibilities:

>computer science
>creative writing
>journalism
>mathematics
>political science
>physics
>statistics

After undegrad I want to go on to grad school to get my Master's for Econ and after that become an economist or economic advisor for a corporation/governemnt.

I included comp sci because it seems generally useful, but being at a Liberal Arts School it probably won't be high quality education.
Creative writing/journalism because it's a good writing school and as an economist I would be doing a lot of writing.
Math/statistics for obvious reasons, but I've already filled all my math requirements (besides one stats class) and idk if I want to devote that much more towards higher level math.
Political science seems to go hand in hand with economics.
Physics because I liked it in high school.

What do you all suggest?
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The only thing that matters is that you graduate with as little debt as possible

Don't fall for the top school meme. It's just a way to get people to over pay
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>>1384393
College advice belongs in >>>/adv/

Also, congrats on getting into a shitty school
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>>1384397
I have a good merit scholarship and my parents are paying the difference

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Soup /biz/.

So I'm about to come into a large amount of money, and I want the absolute safest investments one can make.

No stock market gambling and shit, I mean real secure, like government bonds.

Suggestions?
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Nothing is totally "safe". Right now govt bonds pay very low interest rates. If it's really a lot of money I'd break it into pieces:

40% Income Property (Commercial, Residential, etc)
40% Vanguard Low Cost Total Market Index Fund VTSMX
15% CDs and Bonds
5% Liquid Cash

This mix protects you in many ways. No need to trade or gamble or time the markets if you don't want to. Just buy, hold, live off the rental income. You can get a property manager if you don't want to handle the day to day. That's what I do. :) Good luck!
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>I mean real secure, like government bonds.

hm i wonder
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>>1384337
tbills maniga. not greece tbills though.

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How are these places for gaining work experience in the finance industry?

I'm talking about less then a year, just to get your foot in the door. Anyone have experience with these types of places? I imagine it's pretty shit but is it worth it?
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>>1384310
believe it or not the ceo of goldman sachs worked at one of the early payday loan places as a teenager.................nah

try /r9k/

pleb
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>>1384329
What a constructive post, hows first year business school going?
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>>1384333
have you tried /r9k/ yet? i think you'd love it there!

If I'm convinced that a security will go up...why would I buy it instead of buying stock options?

Stock options are much, much cheaper and will provide me with greater leverage.

Any reason not to do it?
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>>1384215
time decay
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Unlimited risk.
Margin expense.
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>>1384224
unlimited risk is only if you're writing a call

i guess technically you could write a put at any price you wanted and thus have essentially unlimited risk that way too

if you're buying a call or a put, the worst that can happen is the option expires worthless

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How do I short Turkish Lyra against Nintendo?
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>>1384165
should've bought nintendo a week ago and sold it off today, then bought usd/try or eur/try or some shit
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>>1384314
>selling nintendo
>before the asia launch
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>>1384318
he's asking how to short try against nintendo, i am telling him how to do it

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So I am a programmer at a vending machine company. Me and my friend applied for a project 6 months ago. Project is a software for vending machines. They told us that the project should've been finished 2 years ago, it is their last chance. Project deadline was 1st of July, machine shipments arranged for 18th of July. We couldn't finish the software in time as there were unexpected modifications, other coworker just finished sequences on 11th of July instead of June, there are still no translations etc. The thing is that the company's future depends on this project, we should finish it by tomorrow otherwise 15 people will lose their jobs along with us. Software was working fairly ok, yesterday we updated its settings and everything else in it (final modifications). We are going on a holiday roght now (which was planned and paid many months ago, we didn't want to lose our money we spent on it) and we got informed that the software doesn't start with the latest settings so they can't ship machines this way which means the company loses around 600.000€ (they must pay this in case of breach of contract) and it likely goes bankrupt after that. The problem is that I can not really help tomorrow from this far, everybody lost their mind, I just feel bad as fuck. Everything is on us right now, I just don't know how to take it if we fail (we most likely will). Any advices on what can I do to at least do not want to kill myself?
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>>1384151

>shit doesnt work
>im going on vacation
>feel sorry for me

i hope you end up homeless faggot. its a fucking vending machine plz tell me more how you havent dicked off for the last 6 moths.
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>>1384158
We got the finished sequences last day, without testing it likely won't work. We have tomorrow, if I'd be there I couldn't do more, why would I cancel a 2000€ vacation if it doesn't help? If the deadline would be e.g. 24th of July I would've cancelled it, but right now we'd just lose more money as we can't make it tomorrow (not in the office either)
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>>1384158
Guess you missed the part where somebody else dicked around for 2 years before OP got involved.

I've been on a project that was years late before I came on board and the employer, after tying my hands for 6 months, had a shit fit over the lack of progress. It's not a fun place to be, especially when you need the paychecks to keep coming in.

I also see OP was held up waiting for others and encountered "unexpected modifications" which is often code for "the business area is fickle and lied on the spec."

If OP really tried, how can we blame him? Missing his vacation is not going to do a damned thing to help the situation. He needs to detach from the situation and realize there's plenty of blame to go around at the company.

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Can someone explain to me what "Financial Aid" really is? The technical college I want to go to said Financial aid and grants pay for most of the school there. But my mom told me that financial aid is a loan you pay back, and she makes too much money for me to qualify. Is there truth to this? I dont want to pay the 6k for the schooling
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>>1384081
Financial Aid is a mixture of loans and grants. Mostly loans though
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You fill out a free form called FAFSA. If you are under 24, you are a dependent, and so you need to fill out your parent's income information. Once you are done, you get a number called the Expected Family Contribution(EFC). This goes to your school. The school uses this information to give you financial aid.

Financial aid comes in several forms. Financial aid from the government comes in both grants and loans. The name of the grants are the PELL grant and SEOG. There are several loans from the government. Each college can also offer their own grants and loans. For the matter, there's no reason not to apply for financial aid. You can also turn down your grants and loans, or even selectively. I accepted my student grants, but I turned down my student loans.
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>>1384153
I am 22 and my mom makes to much money so I shouldn't even bother right because she makes too much? And isn't it tons of paperwork that will poss her off?

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Short on Turkish Lyra guys and become filthy rich.
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funny how the TRY has had the adverse reaction..It soared shortly before market closing. hmm
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5% down already.
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>>1384067
i think this is most likely turkies only chance to become a civilize place... maybe the army can teach these roaches some manners.

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Turkey Coup -
PayPal Turkey shutdown weeks ago. The only way Turkey/Anons can move cash now is BTC. Here we go boys MOONSHOT time!
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>>1384065
>only way
Kek. To be young and naive again....
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there's no way someone as dumb as op has money to invest - meaning he's taken up the cause of bitcoin shitposting on 4chang without a stake in the game

mental illness truly is a terrifying thing
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go fuck yourself - mr mental illness. I'll have you know my trust fund is substantial. I do not work but I def have skin in the game. BTC is one of my many investments but I confess I spend more on coke and bitches.

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I would like to start making money in cyber security industry on my own name (freelancing / my own business). Currently, I work for big international company (~100k people) as a penetration tester, but I would like to work for myself.
I have skills (and proveable experience) in the field, so I would like to do something like ethical hacking contracts and such services.
My question is, how do I get contacts? How do I prove people that they need me, and should pay me to test their networks? It's not like I can "hack in" out of blue and then tell them that their network is not secure.
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>>1384061
bump, since I am completely out of ideas
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>>1384061
My idea was to do tests for free, and companies would pay me only if I would be able to breach them. But that doesn't resolves my problem - lack of contact in such companies.
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Bug bounties

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