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>>1765580
Less than you would with a low cost s&p ETF

>>1765580
Have it in cash I'll meet you. Whats your address

>>1765587
this

>>1765373
that putting off investing until later is the wrong strategy.

>>1765373
try r9k

>get steady work of some kind
>put $5500 in IRA every year starting NOW
>invest as much as you can in index funds
>DON'T GET AN ARTS DEGREE YOU DUMB FUCK

>>1765337
small business owner.

the environment for small business was shit decades ago.

>>1765337
>Will he be Reagan on steroid?
better hope not. Reagan oversaw a significant recession and the loss of hundreds of millions of businesses.

are you really stupid enough to think the past is worth repeating? what are you, 12?

>>1765345
Is Trump a liar? Seems like thousands of small business owners agree with him.

Maybe you are just wrong

bamp

guess my idea is shit

> feelsbadman

> feelsBadMan with_a_gun

>>1765154
two options
1. pick a discount broker online that supports non-use investments
2. give a ton of money to some broker to do it for you

>>1765154
Interactive brokers?

Send me money and ill buy meme stocks for you for a fee of 30%

DO you think you can manipulate enough people here to change the course? Most likely not. Everyone knows that Bitcoin will drop now that the Chinese sold off their reserves.

>>1765053
i concur you never know for sure but if i had to bet i bet on fall.

>>1765050
it's in despair mode you dumb fuck, slowing bleeding til $300

>>1764940
i produced half a gallon of semen.
i thin it's a new record.

Trying to find a general contractor. Washed out two candidates already. Feeling like I'm going backwards. Need to find a deal

>>1764940
Been working my ass off and billing more than I ever have in a single month before. But I'm a wagecuck, so I'll have to fight tooth and nail to get my fair share of those billings.

>>1764787
open a forex account and trade

>>1764787
divorce and kill the kid

gamble your way to a 4 months emergency plan, then gamble harder for

Both are a jacuzzi

It really depends on how you do it.

Leveraged property does get better returns but with more volatility. And the returns are spendable cash, not simple paper gains

OTOH, an index fund is simpler and taxes are lower because the cash flow is very small. And there's no debt associated with it.

So what do you want it to look like?

>>1764697
The problem is, there is no such thing as an average stock and an average rental property. And since they don't exist, it's rather pointless to compare them.

If you are extremely luck at stock picking you'll outperform everything else, but at a very high risk. If your average returns come close to the market average (which is alredy more than most mutual funds can claim) the case is much less clear-cut.

The same way if you are extremely lucky at picking the future developmental hotspots your properties can easily outperform the stock market.
A close-to-average property can, but doesn't have to.

Both investments in theory (!) should be inflation-proof. Both can catastrophically fail or absolutely go through the roof. I guess what remains are differences in their nature: The stock market is much more volatile while real estate is usually a lot more stable. The stock market will have a larger proportion of your gains be in value increases (which only become an actual profit once you sell the stock) while your rental property will have more gains regularly paid out (the monthy rent). The stock market is very liquid and transactions are fast, while the real estate market is the opposite (which can matter if you need to liquidate your assets in a hurry). On the other hand, using real estate as collateral generally gives you more favourable conditions than using securites as collateral, which means real estate provides better leverage. Finally, stock profits are subject to capital gains and dividend taxes, while real estate profits are usually subject to normal income tax.

>managed?
Run the numbers for your specific investment. Personally I manage my real estate myself. I don't want 2-3 months of rent out of every year to go to someone else. Having the property managed completely will substantially lower your ROI. Dealing with all the local bylaws, rent control, financials, tax reporting and shitty tennants is challanging at first, but you get used to it.

>>1764661

Buy an appartment or a house in a city which is growing. 500000 is not enough to buy something big so you would probably have to take a loan, but then you could buy something for 700000 or so.

I'd put it into a low cost s&p ETF fund.

Buy 30k shares of AGNC and live off the 5k dividends per month

>>1764574
Where do you get a degree in communism at? China?

>>1764574
Why would you get a degree in it? How does that benefit you? You can study communism as much as you want in your free time at no cost, or you can pay way too much money to have it taught to you and then end up with a useless degree. I would just study it on my own time if I were you, anon.

>>1764574
Don't do it.

If things go the way they are, you'll get black bagged for being a leftist.

If things flip 180 and go left, you'll get black bagged for being an intellectual

Wanted a blizzard

>>1764571
He already owns tons of fast food places, it makes sense to buy something that can share the others supply lines.

>Buys randomly Dairy queen while everyone was shoveling money into meme techbubble stocks like fried-air.com


The guy knows what he knows and tech ain't one of them. But IBM seduced him and that was a mistake, he should have sticked to food, insurance and industrial businesses.

REIT.

>>1764535
There are also private deals people can buy into. Apartments often operate this way

>>1764510
From what I heard it is worth "investing" in an apartment if you can rent it out for 1% monthly of what it cost you.

Since that is near impossible, it makes no sense to rent out properties when you can just invest that money into index fund ETFs or REITs (although I don't know why one would choose REIT over index fund).

>>1764455
I noticed that too...

The weather forecast is saying there will be a MOONsoon.

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Either more accumulation or the rocket is taking off

>>1765152
/biz/ is always right.

Just start applying for qa jobs and dev jobs. You'll know how good you are by the results

>>1764403
Most of the decent noncodemonkey jobs will require a cs degree or a referral from someone in the company.

You make your own programs and such and display them on your gitcuck account.

If your programs are decent in language, logic, library utilization and optimizations, then someone will hire you.