I have been accepted into a couple of top-20 grad programs- one for Equity Research/Valuation and another for Corporate Banking/Credit Research.
I am essentially guaranteed a job in either industry upon completion. I've always wanted to be a buyside equity analyst, it just sounds exciting and challenging. But I don't want to work in NYC or SF and I dont want to work more than 60-65 hours a week, unless its earnings season or theres a good reason. This obviously limits my prospects, but I just dont think an extra 100k a year is worth me spending 12 hours a day in my office for 15 years or so.
Can you make money before 30 in commercial/corporate banking? I am fine with making under 200k until 30-40 as long as im working decent hours (which is normal in non I-banking). But I dont want to be stuck making 100k or less at 30 (bonus included).
TLDR I feel I would stand out a lot more and progress quicker with less effort in a traditional lending job, but feel I will miss out on a ton of money on the buyside. I would enjoy either but dont want to burn out.
Am I missing something here?
I don't have any experience in research so this is my only chance to break in.
>>1839454
If you want to make money as equity analyst you will need to work a shitload of hours and get into investment management.
Only way to make it up is to be a very successful relationship manager in commercial banking. Can you sell?
there frankly isn't a lot of money in traditional banking.
Well, either way, you probably will have to be damn good at selling. Either that or be a top 0.1% analyst.
source: dude in top 15 mba program trying to make it into a hedge fund and retire by 40 but first he needs to pay his dues. currently working in commercial banking (want to kill myself every day but its normal hours), but wanting to transition into equity analysis and hopefully one day hedge fund.
>>1839600
>>1839454
also what's this bullshit about 12 hours a day for 15 years. No.
even investment banking at a BB (which should be your lowest target), you will make 150K+ out the gate, and 300K in 4-6 years if you stick around. You should also be able to easily switch to a more comfy gig that pays $150-$200K after 3-4 years. the job opps out there for someone with top IB experience is huge (though still nothing compared to mgmt consulting. its retarded how much companies want to suck mgmt consulting dick, opps are nearly endless).
but again, the highest level is equity analysis. Anton is right; the less intelligent grinders/salesmen are who stick around in IB.
the truly talented people move onto asset mgmt/hedge funds and make real money.
investment banking and mgmt consulting is like 50% bullshit in my opinion; but competing and being rewarded for TRUE skill is of course 10000x harder.
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>>1839427
Don't go there. It's not 4chan friendly.
How about a nice fat IRC channel instead of this malware?
>>1839427
you guys care if i post the link to my friends over at reddit
I plan on starting a small business, I don't have much money now so I'm starting with this idea my friends and I came up with. Its not a big investment at all so worth a shot, right?
The basics are that my coworkers and I will deliver party supplies to people's houses when they throw a party. So solo cups, plates, plastic ware, theme items, etc... I noticed that many people don't know how many things they need to set up for parties. In addition, if they run out of supplies during the party then they (the host) would have to leave the party to get more; thus putting them at risk if they have been drinking, or they risk a lull in the party from leaving. So this would be a remedy to that.
I am very close to a huge college so I'm not worried about lack of parties. Btw not delivering alcohol because I would need multiple licenses.
Anyone have any questions, advice, or criticism? I would love to hear anything good or bad.
There are some very large party supply small businesses. They supply tableware clothes, tables, catering and go for the higher end shit no one owns. Not Solo cups
>>1839406
I'm focusing on like college house parties or small birthday parties. Not really people with a budget for caterers.
>>1839393
Solid idea. I had this as well.
Get that liscense if u can. Youll want a cdl and a box truck anyway for gear and advertising.
>use to be broke living pay check to pay check
>would spend everything on useless shit like video games, electronics and guns
>stresses nonstop but always wanted fancy shit like new speakers or a $200 keyboard
>got job that pays $6,300/month after taxes average a year ago
>live in a $700/month shitbox apartment and barely spend $100/week to feed myself
>drive paid off econobox and have shitbox insuranace
>save everything basically
>refuse to spend a single cent
>never do anything with my money
>always buy used shit and then resell when I'm tired of it if I do buy anything
>1 page of my credit statements is less than a month
>stare at bank account balance
>don't know what to do with my money but obsessed with hoarding more money
>stare at bank account balance even more
Anyone else like this? I've been a hoarder my whole life. I hoard all my money, movies, tv shows, porn, shoes, boxes, receipts whatever you name it.
>>1839384
It's called growing up, OP. you are officially a man now
>>1839384
OP i think you need to start accepting you have a problem and donate some of that money to me
>>1839395
My mom always told me I had a hoarding problem. I have over 6TB of porn that I've had for almost a decade, 10TB combined of TV shows and movies in full HD, a garage full of shit like car parts, boxes of stuff I bought, paperwork records and pictures. I can't even park my car in my garage. I have to use my guest parking space because I have so much shit.
I don't know what to do with my money but I want to make more. I can't spend too much time because I work nonstop. All I wanna do when I get home from working is rot, go to sleep, wake up and repeat.
I'm looking into creativity techniques and routines to think about business ideas.
Which do you find most useful?
Can you recommend good books on it?
I'm torn between reading The Creative Habit, Thinkertoys or Out of Our Minds.
>>1839367
I know of De Bono's six hats, but it is usually cumbersome to think so methodically.
I had better success when using the "almost falling asleep" method used by Dali and Edison. I don't remember who I read it from tho.
>>1839367
bump
You don't need creativity to think of a business idea, in fact that's a surefire way to think of a terrible idea for a business because it'll be something like "translucent hats shaped like a bear" or "an Italian style sportscar with an inbuilt espresso machine that uses the heat of the engine..." that serves no use to anyone.
All you need to do is identify a desire or a service that people or businesses need which is either unsatisfied or you can do it either
>faster
>cheaper
>better
>in a way that "adds value"
>more convenient
Best place to start is your own life: what is something you would pay a lot of money for that doesn't exist, or would pay a premium for if it could be done easier/faster/more conveniently/add value compared to your current options.
t. fine art grad. I KNOW creativity.
Coinbase asks you to verify your account via SMS every fucking time you log in. I'm traveling abroad from different countries and don't have a reliable number.
Does this mean I'm locked out of my account for good? Has anyone gotten past this?
Why the fuck do all these fucktard APPs insist on SMS verification these days? Why can't it be email?
>>1839363
>phone breaks
>have $1,000,000 on coinbase
>btc starts to drop and you can do nothing about it
hmmmm
>>1839363
use authy
>>1839363
Why dont you just store your bitcoin on blockchain.info and stop using cuckbase?
How do you pick a niche if you have no hobbies or interests. I'm slightly exaggerating, but there's nothing I can say, "yeah I'm an expert at that". (Besides what my employer pays me to do, but I don't want to cross contaminate).
You have to pick a hobby or interest.
It's OK if you don't like that hobby or interest, almost no one likes things once they work at them hard enough to make money
I'm doing Finance + Engineering at uni.
I'm starting to work at an accounting firm where I assume I will just be excel monkey for 2 days a week.
I have 20 hours of class time at uni and will be working 18 hours at this firm.
Will employers prefer my experience with a 3.0 or did I fuck up and I should have kept my 3.6+ but no relevant work?
if you are learning a lot at your work experience then it's worth it, if you actually end up an excel monkey then it's not
Do you think employers will understand if my grades slip due to working part time?
I learnt stuff last time, specifically finance stuff when I was working with the finance people.
>Finance + Engineering
How is this possible? Interested, because i was planning on double majoring in CS and Finance
Friend has been talking it up to me and sent me some pdf book about it i'm reading. Said he turned 70 bucks into a couple grand over 6-7 months.
>>1839308
If you absolutely, positively, have to lose every dollar to your name - accept no substitute.
>>1839316
Care to elaborate?
Most people lose money over the long term. Better to invest your spare money into reliable businesses and use your time learning something or creating something valuable that you can sell.
Such as: programming, any type of product (watch shark tank and see your product doesn't need to be amazing in order to sell), web development, hobbies that can allow you to freelance (photography, writing etc), affiliate marketing, blogging
>internet TV is the way of the future
>Sling TV
>Playstation Vue
>Now Google is getting in on the action with YouTube TV
How long until Amazon does the same thing, but cheaper?
>>1839273
Does Amazon Video count?
>>1839287
No, I'm specifically talking about services that give you packages of the regular cable channels to watch through the internet.
Amazon already make their exclusive amazon prime video shows.
>decide to spend $200 on a lottery ticket
>it turns into less than the commission needed to sell it
This Chinese company was posting good profits for a long time but the stock price evaporated and they filed to exit the US exchange and stop reporting. Their website disappeared. How do I find out if this company actually exists anymore? There is still volume and people are trading. Shouldn't a stock be removed from the OTC market if the company doesn't exist? Will my brokerage discard my shares for me so I can get it off my portfolio?
>>1839272
nigger you couldnt find a better lottery ticket than this chink compny
>>1839274
That's what I thought when I bought it. I know buying penny stocks is a longshot but I didn't think they would literally disappear off the face of the earth. They had a solid history of profits. My shares have been worthless for a few years now.
>Spends $200 on chink scam
It never existed op
Thank you Mister Donald Trump.
bump come on faggots
I will not state my brief business. What I would like you to do is tell why it wouldn't work etc.
>find a random guy who knows shit about cars
>find a car for sale
>go with the guy to see the car so he can take a look at it and decide if the price could be negotiated
>buy the car, pay the guy for consultation
>next day put up the car for sale for more than you bought it
>in other cases get a car with broken parts
>the dude changes them
>pay the guy for work
>resell
Low margins, too much work, too much chance for consultation costing too much. But yeah people do this all the time. Usually they don't get a knowledgeable "random guy" to do it, they just do it themselves.
>>1839230
it is too much work.You might as well just open up a used car dealership
My family has been in the car repair business for 40 years. We sell cars, my cousin owns his own car dealership that I helped manage for about 4 months.
It is a hell of a lot of work and people are very weary when it comes to purchasing cars, lots of time wasters.
Monero is the only truly fungible cryptocurrency available and now people are getting caught on DNM through Bitcoin. Monero is the answer:
http://www.praisemonero.org/
Do some research on the underlying tech and focus less on the marketing.
>>1839209
Dont forget the Monero 1%ers at cryptokingdom.me
Yep
You know I could just use boolberry or stealthcoin or any other "stealth" coin.
Parking my money for the next 30 years or so.
I want to put it in an S&P index fund for reliable growth, any tips tricks and suggested funds?
This is the one I use
https://personal.vanguard.com/us/funds/snapshot?FundId=0540&FundIntExt=INT
I'm very happy with it, Vanguard is the most popular because it has an extremely low expense ratio and mirrors the index quite evenly. It went up 12% last year, not too shabby.
>>1839213
I have heard of vanguard a lot, what are the fees?
>>1839245
just found the information on the vanguard shortlist.
for anyone else looking at this, it is the expense ratio and it is an annual fee