Have you got a good jawline /biz/?
t. CEO-tier ultra masculine jaw
>>1844599
the face of cosmetic surgery and hair transplants
Indian Institute of Vedic Sciences
>>1844599
High t.
Also lift. I swear to god it even makes your face muscles look better (I mean regular lifts not weird lifts for your face), even more than just losing weight, lifting changes the face. I don't know if it is the Groth hormone effect or what
/biz/ approved sales /lit/? What are your favourite books on selling?
but more important: How do I practice it? How do I actually get GOOD at it, especially if I don't work in sales or retail at the moment?
After I've read a bunch of shit, memorized the acronyms, learned how to think about how I can *add value* to my client *customize my unique selling proposition* to their needs how can I turn that theory into bona fide salesmanship?
Please when you list books don't just give me the title and the author, explain to me what you got out of it, why you think it's a worth my time.
>>1844584
The two best ways to learn sales:
- By selling
- By having a great salesperson work with you and coach you for a few weeks/months while you are selling
The books don't help that much. More so, every salesman has to find what works for him. Perfect example is that I am a quiet salesman. We are rare, but it works for me. When I first started I tried to be all Billy Mays loud and friendly and failed miserably. That works for other men, but not me.
> Done sales for 4 years
>>1844625
>- By selling
>The books don't help that much.
yeah this is pretty much what I assumed.
>Perfect example is that I am a quiet salesman
Do you find that it's a certain type of customer that you can sell better to than the Billy Mays types as you call it? Or is it if you can sell, you can sell to anybody, irrespective of your approach?
Anyway, looks like I got to find me a mentor
>>1844657
I'd say I am much better at selling to thinkers than doers.
The Billy Mays types are better at selling to doers, but have trouble with thinkers.
I explore what the customer needs, and then rapidly solve their problem in a trustworthy tone.
The Billy Mays types appeal more to emotion, leadership, bonding. That they are the king of all shit, have an amazing product, and the customer would be fuck stupid not to buy it right then.
I could go on about sales for days. What you want to know?
My current job offers extremely generous tuition reimbursement for graduate students and I'd really like to take advantage of it. Now, I don't have the time to physically go to class while I'm working 50-60 hours a week, and I don't live near a decent university in any case, so I figure the online route is my best option.
I work in the financial services industry, but online MBAs are widely seen as a joke so I wouldn't want to take that route. With that being the case I'm not really sure what I should study to make the most of this. Any ideas?
>50-60 hours a week
studying on top of that? sounds harsh. workin 30 alone would kill me
>>1844529
Why not just do a weekend MBA? I know the college near me offers that option. Takes like 3 years, but once class a semester over three years isn't that terrible.
>>1844529
I work on average 50 hours a week and am in a graduate program. Last semester I took 12 credit hours and this semester I have 11 credit hours. I didn't think it could be done either but you will find you are able to adapt rather easily. It sounds cliche but when people ask me how I do that I tell them it is almost like the Nike slogan "just do it". If you literally "just do it" you will figure it out. Don't make excuses.
>You studied WHERE?!!
"b-biz... t-told me-me... that c-college w-was a jewish s-ssscam...."
Montlake High School.
What are you going to do about it faggot?
>>1844483
>>1844484
>thank you for your time we'll be in touch
>can you call in the next applicant on your way out please? thanks
Hey /biz/,
How do I convince my friend to immediately gtfo out of this pyramid scheme he's trying to get people to join, including me? I know he means well, but he's naive as fuck. How do I explain it to him in the best way possible?
you can't
>>1844445
Don't. Why is it your problem? Let him learn the hard way.
>>1844454
He's a good friend. A bit retarded but a friend nonetheless. I just want to educate him before he's too far deep.
Is getting a pair of persian cats a good investment? They cost about $500 each and you can have 4-6 kittens every 4-5 months, which is roughly $5000 profit per year. It costs less than $500 a year to feed them and they provide returns for 12-15 years.
Yes buy as many as you can.
>>1844322
Factor in medical bills do, and also having their pedigree certified.
Or you can do what puppy mills do and put the ones to sleep that don't sell. Actually just do that instead with pitbulls then drink a gallon of bleach.
My grandma did this. Whole house smelled like shit. Had a room just for the cats full of cat trees and litter boxes. She would drag me to cat shows and everyone smelled like catpiss.
Is there any field more alpha than sales?
Probably hard-scrabble boostrap entrepreneur.
no. you definitely have to be a certain personality type though
>>1844094
No, I do it and it taught me a lot of important skills that I can transfer to other areas of my life. Closing a deal isn't that much different than convincing a drunk girl at a bar to go home with you.
So I got some new information.
How accurate is this list? What is the chance that the stores on this list will close?
http://www.businessinsider.com/jcpenney-list-of-stores-closing-2017-3
https://ratingagency.morningstar.com/PublicDocDisplay.aspx?i=f4wsiupP%2b68%3d&m=i0Pyc%2bx7qZZ4%2bsXnymazBA%3d%3d&s=LviRtUKXqs8kml5dHt7FTeE2SZmY0Fvqd4iX49Mk%2f9UapyiFTEO6TA%3d%3d
>>1844039
If you can help me make sense of this
me bump
Some guy I knew made at least tens of thousands euro from boosting people in league...that seems to be really profitable compared to most stuff u can do on the net. What category of earning money does this fall into? Do you know of any similar stuff like this?
Pretty sure it's like minimum wage? Can't really imagine this to be that much plus there's more than enough neets to meet demand.
I haven't played LoL in years but I played the first three seasons btw.
doubt you'd earn anything decent, maybe a tad above minimum wage if you are devouted enough
The pay is garbage unless you are currently working a shit job with shit pay, then you're looking at an improvement. I've been playing the game for years and hit masters. There's no way in hell i'd spend any more time boosting other people
I need capital to start my business and theres no way zi can gain the money without risking everything for this one shot.
Im going into the tech app industry and I NEED TO MAKE MY IDEA HAPPEN.
What do you guys think of me doing this, is there a better way. Im so desperate to start my business without the help of investors so I can retain control.
What does /biz/men think
>>1843805
it's fine. What could possibly go wrong?
>>1843805
how about you quit being a sperg and write up a well thought out business plan and apply for an SBA loan of 5k?
> > 20 % interest
> shit credit score
> no real plan
what can go wrong
I've got a bit more than 30,000 € from inheritance sleeping in a european account .
What should I do with it?
I want to become a millionaire asap.
Build a company or just hold Ethereum.
You only get rich owning something.
>>1843677
>build a company
My studies are quite time consuming, so I'd rather just invest my money somewhere.
Isn't ethereum just a meme? Can someone give me a quick rundown on it?
>>1843671
forex. only real alternative.
Baby I need money, but I can't rely on your bitcoin.
Baby I need cash, but I'd rather marry Kickstarter and cuck him with Patreon.
I can't rely on your cryptocurrency.
If I can't see a clear future,
If it's under a maybe then it's not worth betting.
So show me and promise me on how to secure my future in the billions.
C'mon /biz/. Cryptocurrency aren't reliable.
They're just your hot biker girlfriend,
Who drops you off her motorcycle and never looks back.
It's playing casino with your mind and you it's not healthy for you.
Just go to a programming university.
Just go be a beehive keeper, better than a drug dealer.
Just sell lemonade, and stop betting on adderall.
Just focus on flourishing your business and stop betting on the bitcoins,
They're too cryptic to be handled.
+1
>*lights a green candle*
Epic meme, bro.
>apply for job
>"Dear Anon, thank you very much for applying to us. After careful consideration, I regret to inform you that we will not be proceeding with your application any further. As we received a record number of applicants this year we apologize that feedback on your application cannot be provided.
I've applied to hundreds of places and still no luck. Even started cold calling directly to firms but they don't accept cold calls. I honestly don't know what to do anymore.
Before anyone tells me to lower my expectations, yes I've tried that by applying for fast food and retailcuck jobs but they see me as too "overqualified" just because I have a university degree. If I remove my degree from my CV they ask me why I have an "employment gap" during my university years.
Like seriously WHAT THE FUCK /biz/?? I just want to work hard and make a decent contribution to society, so why won't anyone hire me? But how do I do that if employers never tell me how to improve my application if they keep rejecting it?
At least you got a response.
I've been fired from 4 jobs after working there for barely any time after I thought I got along great with everyone.
Haven't worked in 9 months. Savings running out. Some of us weren't made to make it bro. Sad to say that's just how it is.
>>1842596
>so why won't anyone hire me?
because your uncle doesn't know the manager.
This is how most normies get their first job, not from applying to listings.
>>1842596
>mfw I hear the unemployment rate is 4.9 percent.
Any Vanilla Optionsfags here?
>be poorfag that started in October
>no margin
>cash only but cheap leveraged blue chip and index bets
>controlled 400 shares of AMD for total of $20 at one point
>as spot approaches strike I make money
>price my limit/stop orders in R
>discount broker
>call them on day of expiration to prevent exercise
>only lose what I put in
It's pretty cozy. Mixed results so far. Anyone else do this? Or more advanced strategies?
Can we even discuss vanilla options here?
>>1842587
>call broker
>we do cashless exercise
>locked in position deep in the money
>can't afford exercise
>they'll exercise the option and sell it immediatly to lock in profit
Feels nice being a liquidity provider
If you bet horses at least you get a show to watch.
>>1842690
We're on a board dedicated to cryptocurrency speculation and meme stocks.
I'm the safest gambler on this board.
I spent a lot of money on steroids I probably will not use. What do I do?
I got pressured into it and now I'm starting to want to turn back.
sell em
>>1842495
I don't know anyone who wants to buy them and I don't want to sell drugs.
>>1842494
>pressured into buying steroids
>being this insecure
I dunno anon, steroids might be right up your alley.