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PIVX is showing the bull flag.

How many are you holding /biz/?
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150 PIVX

Am I /futurechad/ yet?
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Pivx has so much potential, fucking weak hands, when will they learn
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>>2002860

This is true. Pivx holders need to get their smug pepes ready

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I'm considering buying a car. Am I complete tard if I spend 35% income on car loan payments?
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>>2002845
What would you say is an acceptable effort rate?
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>>2002843
Yes. Instead spend it with ETH.
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Don't buy a car unless you can pay in cash. Also second hand cars work just fine as well.
Even if you get enough money to buy in cash, still think of what you're doing.

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Coinbase is legit right? I'm ready to get on this train but the whole 'scan your drivers licence thing' bugs me out a little. If I hadn't bought weed in 2011 I'd be a millionaire and I'm not letting that happen again.
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>>2002738
yes, it's legit. Now, go learn how to trade and manage crypto.
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>>2002746
I've been spending the last week watching BTCkyle, Chris Dunn and lurking on the comfy thread and /biz/ in general. I'm not an expert but feeling relatively confident now
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>>2002738
Just wait until you get to the part where they ask you to give them your online bank account login information. Then you'll really start to sweat.

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daily reminder POSW will never moon
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It's already did. Got in at 20k and out by 140k. Was an amazing trade but now my sights are on RNS, in at 1k and waiting for 10k minimum. Shit has an active dev, community, and masternodes coming soon which has been the latest fundamental formula for pumps.
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>>2002700
You paid shills really are formal sometimes I will tell you.
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>>2002711
there's more shills on this board than /pol/

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Whats keeping this faggot from investing in cryptos?
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>>2002666
Too intelligent.
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>>2002666
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>>2002666
He doesn't ever invest in technology.

>inb4 IBM & Apple
IBM's revenue comes from consulting and the decision to buy Apple was not his own

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So we have an app that actually works with impressive roadmap in cryptospace, yet Dogecoin have bigger market cap. Why are we so retarded?
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>>2002644
Just have patience. Good tech always prevail.
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>>2002644

Kek has blessed us, fellow BAY shill. Who /DamnNearAllInBay/ here?
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Doge has a very active community still plus it's coin supply is so huge. Also it being part of the margin Alts on polo makes it worth something still.

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Something that I don't see all too often on here is IM topics like SEO and the like. Just a lot of cryptofag shit.

I'm considering starting up an ecommerce store in a rather targeted niche with some pretty good 1-10K keywords and low competition. As far as legitimately ranking my website goes through whitehat, without Google (de/black)listing me, what are my best options?

I've read IG shoutouts and guest blogging are great ways to generate tier-one backlinks and get your site on Google's first page for some of your keywords. Then you generate the second/third tiers with shitty unsecured Wordpress websites that link to your tier-one pages.

If there are any IM anons here:
-how did you rank your page? or, how would you suggest ranking one?
-what do you do to earn? affiliate, PPL? etc.

Let's get some healthy discussion going.
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i'm new to all of this. i work for a small company and i just made a new website for them (it's not great, i'm learning webdev as i go, but it's a massive step up from our old website)
i did nothing for SEO or anything. i don't even know where to begin. any basics or guides out there?
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>>2002545
I don't have a source on the information, I just picked it up through years of lurking senpai. I know there are plenty of basics guides out there but you have to be really careful because the IM community's entire goal is to profit off of your entry, so I would recommend never buying into what they are saying if it sounds like it's either sales jargon or too good to be true.

How did you manage to get into making websites btw? I've been thinking about trying to step into that as well desu.
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>>2002570
really i just downloaded bootstrap with a good template and just input everything i needed instead. it's very simple, but it shows off our products which our old website didn't do.
without bootstrap i don't know the first thing about coding a website. but bootstrap makes it extremely simple and has built in phone/tablet optimization.
our website has no shopping cart yet (just needed to get our products visibility in the short term) and i'm not sure if i'll even be able to implement one in the business that i'm in

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Is it considered rational to help a good friend pay off their debts, specifically student debt? Not loaning, but giving.

This is assuming you get to a good spot financially.
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Yes. If it doesn't hurt you and they are that good a friend then I can't see why not.
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Depends. Will they become a leech?
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Rational implies you have an ulterior motive or another reason than your morality

But if you feel rational, I've got some debts myself, please feel free to donate 0x152C9C104e31fF7E7eD2FEfd9c69704c5B4739f4

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Going to the casino tonight with Asian qt and a 100 grand. Ask me anything

Biz related what's going on with the influx of eth?
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>>2002445
>and a 100 grand

Top taste in candy bars, my dude. I hope you enjoy the caramel goodness, but be sure to share with your ladyfriend.
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>>2002445
and a 100 grand?

do you mean that you are going with 100k $? to spend
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Is it long term asian qt? (envious)

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Hey Biz,
I am a super newbie to mining crypto stuff.
Could we make a mining sarter thread ?
how do i mine etherum and is it worth the electricity ?
how i build a mining system, do i need to cool it ?
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Guys hello ?
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Man just one time reply to a post thats a bit more abstract then only memecoin, explain how i can mine memecoins
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>>2002410
Not worth it friend

Unless you live in china

Look into staking instead

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I'm tired of seeing people posting that "mortgages are just the bank fucking you" and "owning property is letting the jews win" and all this shit.
Here's how to own a house and make more money with the bank's money than the bank is making.

Find a decent vacant lot for ~$50k. There are lots around if you look online in your area, it doesn't have to be huge but the more you can get over a half acre, the better.
Now the bank will fund you to build a house on that lot, it's called a builder's mortgage. They give you money in increments based on what the final value of the house/lot will be. They have no problem with lending you $200k to build a house that would sell for $300k.
Their first payment has the cover the cost of the lot AND get your house to 40% completion, though, which is where most people struggle to get through. You'll probably need to borrow some money to get through this part, but don't worry, you'll get it back once the build is done. They are giving you the FULL cost to build the house in full, they're just lame about the increments they give it to you in, in order to cover their ass. They don't want to give you the first payment and have you go to Vegas and blow it, and all they can take from you is a vacant lot that isn't worth what they've given you already.


Build a decent house. As in, don't build a piece of shit. Spend some time looking at floorplans and decide on what you're able to afford square footage wise. I just recently built a 1750sq ft home with a fully finished basement for ~$230k. The monthly payment on our mortgage is ~$1150. Make sure your building contractor is including the price of a fully finished basement in the total cost. Two bedrooms, kitchen, bathroom, laundry room in the basement, and there are two sets of stairs to access the basement. One is from the garage, one is inside.
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Complete the house, and rent the basement out to either a couple or two separate people.
Price the rooms comparatively to what a dorm room costs at your nearest college/university if you're near one, and if you're not, make sure it's priced comparatively to other rented properties in your area. If shitty ass two bedroom apartments that are small in an apartment complex are being rented for $1000/mth, you can get more than that easily. You are offering a brand new, clean, never been lived in, LARGE two bedroom apartment.

Now, use their rent to pay your mortage off. Where I am, shitty fuckin dorm rooms are rented for around $600/mth. That makes renting the basement to two students EASY for $1200/mth, because it's the same price as a dorm but a hell of a lot nicer. We're close to a university, so that allows us to be a bit more choosy with who we want living there as well.

With the mortgage being $1150/mth and rent coming in at $1200/mth, any amount of money you are able to save is able to be chopped right off of your mortgage. My fiance and I budgeted ourselves around $1100/mth, so I know we are comfortable with giving that up. So we put that on top of the rent, and the mortgage gets paid of way faster.

By renting the basement out and also holding ourselves responsible for "paying" the mortgage ourselves as well, we are able to pay off a shitpile of the mortgage over the course of two years. The interest in the first year was around $6500, and we're aiming to pay off close to $28k. The second year we'll pay off a similar amount, but the interest will be less.
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In two years time, we'll be able to sell a house that we initially paid $230k for, and have the mortgage paid down to ~$190k, for $450k.

That's $260k in our pockets, but we paid ~$55k into the mortgage on that. Now, we could have done that right off the hop (sold it), but the house value is still pretty much "brand new" after two years. Also, if you don't live in the house for at least a year (I think) you get taxed on all that. So you might as well live in the new house you just designed and built for a couple years.

So basically you start with fuck all, nothing, and go to SAVING ~$50k over the course of two years for living in a new house and renting the basement. You don't even have to sell it, if you stay there and continue doing that, you'll have the mortgage paid off in EIGHT YEARS. The bank gave you the money hoping it'd take 25.
Now, you don't have to pay the mortgage off that fast. If you're okay with giving the bank way more in interest, you can have your tenants pay the mortgage for you forever. You're still on the hook for property tax and utilities and all that, but not having a mortgage in a brand new house is pretty sweet.
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Here's the numbers because I know people will try to say that it's bullshit. You need to make enough money in order to support an $1,100 mortgage payment, that's it. If you can make the mortgage payment, the bank is happy to give you the money and rape you on interest over many years.
Those of you paying rent probably pay close to that already.
My bank is CIBC so I used their mortgage calculator for reference.2.79% on a two year fixed rate
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>First year
$230,000 + $6417 interest = $236,417 owed
Payment is $1,064/mth = $12,768 per year
1200 in rent x 12 months = $14,400 per year
You are paying $1,100 per month = $13,200 per year
So you're paying off $27600 total minus the interest per year

Which means, after the first year, you owe $208,319
>2nd $208,319
>3rd $186,028
>4th $163,112
>5th $139,551
>6th $115,329

So now you've lived in your house for five years. The bank will make ~$3200 off of you in interest the following year.

>7th $90,426
>8th $64,823
>9th $38,501
>10th $11,440

And obviously the entire mortgage is paid off in the 10th year.

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Anyone else mining or thinking of buying rigs?

6 x 480s here...
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>>2002372
how are you only getting 180 with 6x 480s? do you even know what you're doing?
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>>2002372
I have a 290 any guides to mining
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>>2002372
How much MH will 6x GTX 1050 Ti's give me? what about power consumption compared to the Radeon 480?

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Okay so here's the deal /biz/. Jump into my shoes. I'm a 23 y/o neet from an Eastern European country. Minimum wage here is 300 euros a month, My monthly expenses are around 150 euros.

I have 500 euros in my bank account, 1 eth. I want to know what are the best ways to make money on the internet. At least 150 euros a month.

I have a failing youtube channel which would take a lot of time to promote and make money on. I can edit videos somewhat but I heard that freelance video editing is terrible. I did some transcription stuff back in the day, made 40 dollars out of it and got kicked out for bad punctuation so transcribing is out of the question. I have a computer (i5 2500, gtx 750ti) with which I could mine some crypto.

I have at least few months before I need to find a job. Give it to me straight doc. What should I do? I mean 150 euros a month doesn't sound that scary and should be obtainable...

Should I start selling my dirty socks on ebay for desperate middle aged women or something?

Thanks mates!
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Buy Bitcoin
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Buy posw
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>>2002353
>>2002361
I'm actually interested in day trading some cryptos but it seems very risky.

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Does anyone else here feel like it's HELL MODE hard to get out of the poor class? (In the U.S)

- My 40 hour a week job BARELY pays for rent, food, and expenses, making it hard to save any money.

- It takes a large amount of capital to start a business that has a success rate of like 5%.

- Job markets are saturated and college does not seem like a worthwhile investment when you will have to owe a shit ton and odds of you finding a good secure job are nil.

Seriously the only ways I can think of getting to the upper class are:

1) Develop a fucking smash hit app or game which AGAIN the odds of that are very bad as google play store is SATURATED with other people doing the same.

2) Become a world class poker player and play at the best tables (a lot of you might laugh at this but there are tons of wealthy bad poker players who want to have fun throwing money around.

3) Become a savant at trading cryptos which will be quite the emotional rollercoaster but I'm sure some people are making bank doing it.

I really can't think of anything else. Why do they make it so hard to obtain great wealth?
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>>2002330
>falling for the college is a bad investment meme
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>>2002330
Stop
Being
Poor
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If it was easy, everyone would do it.

I need to preface this a bit. Ever since Uber's 2014 valuation, I've been predicting their demise. Long story short, none of the math works out for their company's operations and even their own internal review has said it's likely to never be profitable. Due to their insane VC funding, the company is hovering around 70B dollars. This is at a time when they're being kicked out of entire countries both by competition, the state, and labor laws.

Their saving grace supposedly was going to be automated driving, but as anyone with half a brain knew, automated driving has been under development forever by companies who actually have massive important patents that they don't license out for cheap (Mobileye being the biggest).

So Uber is in a jam. It either needs the first automated car despite it's current round of automated vehicles being unmitigated disasters that keep crashing and running reds, or it needs to start charging about 2x on each ride to make up for it's investment deficit.

Well, Uber's self driving car group lead developer has now quit. Long story short, he worked on google's self driving car and stole shit from google to take to Uber. Uber was probably 100% aware of this and probably even hired him for that reason, but they hoping they'd make it to market first.

This is part of a bigger crash that's going to happen in 2018 or 19. Obama's eagle like focus on maximizing the countries private equity and investment bank system has created a construct where tech VCs were getting fired for what they DIDN'T put money in rather than what they did. Failed investments were fine, but not being in on the new new was how you got cut, and that's a big fucking problem.
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Investors, especially private equity, value one thing above all else: the ability to scale. If you show them a market deficiency and say "I can turn 500k into 1m in just two years" your average private equity guy will look at it, see if he can replicate it all over, and if not ignore it. Even if it's completely turn key they'll say "Listen, your little po dunk operation will double my money but I'm looking at getting 50x in just a few years." Silicon valley effectively changed the game on that. Anything that's software instantly scales to whatever you need as long as it doesn't involve real people or real management.

The main issue with this is when Silicon Valley tries to enter the realm of the real.

Transportation, medicine, even HR paperwork.
I spent half a UBER AMA thread mocking them for claiming that an app changelog is not a bridge too far. Every developer in the thread instantly dog piled pointing out that entire OSes have change logs and a three screen app should know what the fuck changed. This small peak into Uber's lack of management gets even more intense. Supposedly entire large projects are being duplicated and there's large amounts of coders doing each others work because no one knows what anyone is doing. This is without even getting into the toxic aspects of of their corporate culture irt racism/sexism.

There's a common piece of hubris in regards to market momentum. As the idea goes, the more money tossed at something, the less likely it is to fail because of internal momentum. Put another way, Rich people don't lose money. This what we're seeing though and what we will see.
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Normally when a silicon valley company fails to demonstrate profitability, one of it's larger groups of private equity will just use another company to buy it. A great example is youtube which scaled wildly but even at scale couldn't turn a great profit because it's insanely expensive to run. Many of the early VCs with it however knew that they had something with marketing power and sold it to another firm they owned a ton of stock in, google. Not only did they get over a billion for it's sale, but they also curbed the costs the thing would have inevitably had when it died on the vine a year later because of their limitations.
Why is that important though?

The reason it's important is there's no bail out game ready for if Uber or similarly hyper oversized VCs go out. There's no Apple or Google that will pay out the 70b investors expect back, hell even a loss for fifty cents on the dollar will be too much for someone to pay as Uber fails. Some competitor will have automated trucking and automated driving and Uber's value will sink like a rock.

This is not because Uber failed from the start. This is not because there's even a flaw in their revenue, it's literally just because the investment class got over chubbed on it and inflated it's value so astronomically that it simply implodes on itself like a dying star.

Uber is not alone in this. The rate of billion dollar unicorns is falling like a rock. VCs are starting to hold money back. The ultimate irony is the Titanic has already been gashed along the side and it's because of the ridiculous valuations in the 2012-2016 block.
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>>2002285
This guy seems to know what he's talking about.
>>2002282
How can I short small businesses?

In general, if I want to short businesses that I'm sure will fail, is there a way to make money on that?

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