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The more I learn about science the more I become an agnostic theist, firstly because there was such a tiny chance that life would come about in a random, uncaring universe and secondly because of the way human consciousness can change reality on a quantum level.
Oh I mean the earth is 6000 years old, evolution is a scam, big bang never happened adam and eve not adam and steve.
The latter is what you retarded atheist fucks immediately think when you hear that someone believes in god, the former is what most theists actually are. We do not have to debunk your 'arguments' against god but I'm sure >>>/r/atheism would like to hear about them.

Read pic related and you'll know the truth.
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Hail Satan!
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>>1757064
Your argument: "I don't have to debunk your argument because reddit"
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>>1757069
>>1757072
>>>/r/atheism
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>jesus will help you
>but only in case if you will give the money to us
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>>1757085
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>>1757064
a god probably exists, that much I'll concede to
I wouldn't take man's word for what a god is, though
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>>1757120
I guess I kinda agree with this.
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>>1757085
EVERYTHING THAT SLIGHTLY QUESTIONS ME IS REDDIT WAHHHH
>>>/pol/
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I don't usually think I'm speaking with dumbfucks, but it turns out that way in 95% cases.
Greatest arguments I heard so far:
>Nazis were atheists (priest)
>all geniuses like Tesla were believers (my parents)
>atheists have no goal in life (priest)
>god exists whether you like it or not (friend)
>God exists because Jesus exists (priest)
>if you don't go to church you are a gypsy (neighbour)
>Bible is evidence of God (some /pol/ack)
>you were born because of God because all doctors told me to abort or else I'll die (my mom)
Ye, I go to church a lot so I listen to this shit a lot.
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The Old Testament is literally Demiurge worship.
Slavery, rape, genocide, Hagar the surrogate slave mother.
King Hezekiah begging God for 15 more years in material life.
Promises of world domination and great wealth by YHWH to the Hebrews disturbingly similar to Satan's temptation of Jesus in the New Testament.
Worship as nothing more than a commercial contract between YHWH and the "chosen people" with pointless tribal mitzvot sprinkled on top.
Not to mention the volcanic origin of YHWH.

YHWH is Satan. Jesus was the serpent in the garden, freeing humanity from the garden of Eden where it wallowed in ignorance (note how YHWH lied to Adam and Eve beforehand as rightly pointed out by the serpent). Since then, YHWH prince of this world reigns, with the chosen people as his earthly priest caste, controlling the world through the alchemies of finance and media.

Follow the path of the radical hellenic Jesus Christ. Follow Marcion. Follow Logos as opposed to the ramblings of devil-worshipping desert tribes.
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why do humans think they are special?
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>>1757171
Because normies can't deal with being forgotten through time and fear returning to the state before the birth.
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>>1757069
DELET BRITBONG
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>>1757204
H A I L
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>>1757211
You better stop it
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>>1757196
You get reincarnated after you die you mong.
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>>1757218
S A T A N
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>>1757228
[Citation needed]
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>>1757064
Why can't people like you accept there is not such a thing as a god that watches over us, do you think you're special? Just like you mentioned, the probability for something like humanity exist is incredibly low, but do you any idea how many other galaxies and similar sistems like ours exist? It was just chance, and your "god" is nothing but the egoistical manifestation of people without a purpose in life that think they're special snowflakes
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>>1757233
STOOOOOOOOP IT
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Hail the God-Emperor!
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>Mfw there is no god
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>>1757064
>The more I learn about science the more I become an agnostic theist
Maybe that's because there's a world of difference between "learning about science" and applying scientific thinking consistently.
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>>1757242
>not such a thing as a god that watches over us
You're probably thinking about it in limited materialistic sense, in which case yes, I think your conclusion is probably accurate. The problem is, "materialistic scientific" universe isn't enough to explain our being. What is consciousness? How does it function and where does it come from? Our current science certainly doesn't have much of a clue about that and thus it's not qualified to answer the question of existence of god. It's excellent tool for debunking fundamentalist fools who take bible for scientific truth though.
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>>1757293
>>1757302
You guys actually bothered to read it? lol.
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>>1757293
Fuck off jew, nobody likes you.
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>>1757307
Fuck you, I like him.
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>>1757120
hey that's actually pretty good
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>>1757302
>"materialistic scientific" universe isn't enough to explain our being
How do you know?

>What is X? Our current science certainly doesn't have much of a clue
Even if I accept this at face value, it doesn't prove that the "materialistic scientific" universe isn't enough to explain it.

>and thus it's not qualified to answer the question of existence of god
It doesn't need to answer the question of the existence of god any more than it needs to answer the question of the existence an infinite number of other metaphysical nonsense I can invent, and that's because science accepts that this sort of mental masturbation doesn't bring you any closer to actual understand of anything.
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>>1757307
Fuck off, this is one of the reasons you pseudo-intelectual religious people are one of the worse types, thinking you've got life all figured out and shutting others down
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>>1757328
>doesn't bring you any closer to actual understand of anything [as opposed to science].
Ok then. What does science say about the purpose of life? In the bast case fuck all, and if you really want something, it would probably go like "there is none, you might as well kill yourself right now". The question is too important to be left completely unanswered, and any answer that science by itself could provide is either not helpful at all or outright dangerous.
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>>1757372
>science doesn't answer abstract philosophical questions, therefore you should believe in god
Doesn't make any sense. What are you trying to argue?
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>>1757317
>>1757340
Fuck off, brainwashed nerds.

>>1757328
>>1757424
Kill yourself, jew. Hitler was right.
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>>1757480
>Oh no, I'm retarded and have no argument, time to resort to insults
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>>1757480
I don't think were the brainwashed ones, mate
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>>1757480
>being so butthurt about getting rekt in an internet argument that you wish someone death
How very un-Christian of you.
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>>1757491
Fuck off weaboo subhuman neckbeard dickfucking fedoralord faggot
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>>1757507
He's starting to doubt his own arguments now
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>>1757424
You certainly don't have to but you can look at god as abstraction or something like that. When people were looking for the answer in the past, it was way easier to connect the ideas with personified god. Throughout the ages, god actually has become less personified and more abstract as people were better able to conceptualize abstract ideas separately.
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>>1757532
The point is that this "abstract idea" of yours doesn't constitute actual knowledge about the physical or the metaphysical, so any conclusions you deduce from it (about the purpose of life, its origin, or anything else at all) are as unsubstantiated as the original concept.
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>>1757494
>>1757507
>>1757521
>>1757551
Kill yourself you cockmunching, asscracking, dicktickling, carpetmunching, cumguzzling, coochiesinning,
unclefucking, muffdiving, frogposting dyke subhuman faggots.
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Why is it always atheists try to say they are smarter based on a hypothesis based on theories they barely comprehend.

They are equally retarded to those theists who believe they are illuminated/saints in life without even knowing basic theology

When will everyone see it's a cock/tit size competition between a man and a woman and the parameters used to judge the knowledge of the universe are totally different.

For crying out loud the definition of HUMANITY is different by atheist and theist philosophy
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>>1757570
Theists are the only ones who are right.
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>>1757588
Dubs, and still lying, what a waste
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>>1757570
>Why is it always atheists try to say they are smarter based on a hypothesis based on theories they barely comprehend.
Why does a pseudo-intellectual retard like you have to enter a discussion he barely comprehends and "criticize" some weird strawmen? I mean, it's not even clear who exactly you are trying to strawman here. It seems like you're ranting about your own fantasies.
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>>1757599
that could be applied to you too
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>be me
>fijian living in australia
>is hindu
>browses 4chan for the tumour inducing cancer
>sees christian post about how god is gr8 and athiests are cucks

What do?
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>>1757601
YOU FUCKED IT UP, FUCK YOU JEWISH FUCKBAG
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>>1757601
Because it's not a strawman you nigger, i'm discussing an entirely different thing.

Both theists and atheists try to judge others in their own parameters and scientific parameters should be universal
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No ones ever gonna know the real story; I really don't get why people get so into this. I'm sure there's something were not seeing here but I don't think it's some man in the clouds
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>>1757615
>Both theists and atheists try to judge others in their own parameters
My parameter is internal consistency. I don't demand that your worldview must be consistent with mine. I merely recommend that your worldview should be consistent with itself, and unfortunately, theists don't have a consistent worldview.
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>>1757064
yeah, i'm not gonna read all that shit, it's probably a pasta too.
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>>1757551
The conclusions aren't scientific if that's what you mean. But that doesn't mean that they're not answers worth asking. The judeochristial culture certainly didn't come up with the best possible answers, but it lead to what we currently have so they certainly were good enough to make things better. People will always try to justify their own existence whether you like it or not, so you might as well try to find an answer that might make things better rather than worse.
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>>1757632
the same could be said about atheists regarding the consistence morality and the origin of knowledge

It's not like being atheist is a shield against basic human flaws
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>>1757639
>The conclusions aren't scientific if that's what you mean.
The conclusions are unsubstantiated. It is irrational to regard them as true, because they are baseless.

>But that doesn't mean that they're not answers worth asking.
The questions are worth asking, but any answers based on the concept of a god are unworthy of the questions, and that's because not only do they not constitute any knowledge, they are antithetical to knowledge.
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>>1757662
And he never claimed that, what he's saying is the theist in this thread isn't being consistent with his own arguments and viewpoints
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>>1757662
>the same could be said about atheists regarding the consistence morality and the origin of knowledge
No, it actually couldn't be said about atheists, because not believing in deities doesn't define your moral and epistemological views.
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>>1757679
easy when all you say is
>"he's doubting"
>"he's lying"

where are my frens?
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>>1757688
some see religion as a moral necessity and others see it as a handicap, that's not consistent at all since it was established that morals are part of religion and therefore have no use for the atheist
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Why can't pussies just accept that when you die your just gone? That's it, you're dead. You don't exist and your body becomes food for insects.
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>>1757718
>Furfag is retarded
What a surprise.
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>>1757705
>it was established that morals are part of religion and therefore have no use for the atheist
No, it wasn't. It's just your theistic delusion.
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>>1757690
I cannot say he's lying, just that he's not saying the truth
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>>1757718

Because you cant prove thats all that happens
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>>1757678
>not only do they not constitute any knowledge, they are antithetical to knowledge.
>only scientific truths constitute knowledge
I live. And I quite like living. Thus whatever idea or truth can make living better constitutes knowledge. Your scientific answer to those particular questions sucks cock and you know it, which is why you didn't even try to contest it.
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>>1757718
Because pussies think they're too important to just disappear, and try to find an excuse to live thinking they won't
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>>1757852
>your theistic delusion

there we go again
Why it always has to be a jew?
Fucking jews

I didn't even mention my posture in all this shit

>>1757857
same difference
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>>1757858
>Because you cant prove thats all that happens
You can prove it rather easily by noting that all aspects of yourself that you can perceive (i.e. everything that shapes your mental model of yourself) has been traced back to the brain, and when you die your brain gets destroyed. I can't prove that your mumbo jumbo godly soul energy doesn't live on, but that you still can't claim that you continue to live on in any meaningful sense. Not when every aspect of yourself that you understand (and thus shapes what you mean when you say "I") gets objectively and provably destroyed.
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>>1757064
Thats like saying no one is going to win the lottery even though there is always someone who does
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>>1757939
>lying
Making shit up ("I can't prove, but I have faith that God made everything and wants me to do X, Y and Z!") doesn't constitute knowledge. This is not debatable. Sorry.
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>>1757960
>m...muh jooz
The idea that you can't have morality without God is a theistic delusion. You will never be able to substantiate your claim.
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>>1757064
AND HIS NAME IS JOHN CENA
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>>1757964
>i cant prove your soul energy doesnt live on.


Exactly. So you dont know if it goes somewhere. Or if it stays floating around like a limbo.

This is where faith comes in. If nothing happens when i die then fine. Ill accept after im already dead and see for myself that theres nothing. But up until that point im going to strongly believe that i will meet god. Or end up in a heavenly or hellish place. You guys saying that there is or isnt anything does not matter.
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>>1757983
>Jews came from babylon
>Jews went back to babylon
>Jews went to egypt by their own will
>Jews fled egypt after trashing it
>Jews started jewish, christian and islam religions
>Jews started 1800 atheist philosophical boom
>Jews are the ones to blame for both the ideas that drove hitler to create nazism and the modern liberal push
>Jews are the reason why both modern art school and classical art school hate eachother
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>>1757975
Since you conceded my point about your scientific answer being terrible, that makes the (however inaccurate) judeochristian answer more useful to humankind and thus better. But keep arguing your semantics, if it makes you feel better.
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>>1758013
>completely failing to understand my post
The statement "I will live after death" is provably false because when you say "I", you are referring to a set of attributes that have all been traced back to your brain and body. Your hypothetical "soul energy" is not you in any meaningful sense.
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>Jews openly admit to be the ones causing ideological warframe
>Jews openly admit they are the ones behind the creation of both sides
>Jews don't know why
>There's not a bigger plan behind all this clusterfuck
>They just like to see people throw shit at each other while eating kosher snacks
>Individual jews negate the claims of transcendental jews to keep the shitstorm flowing
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>>1758013
But what is your supposed "soul energy" and what fact even proves it exists?
If we're just claiming, I'll go around and say that we're all pink elephants deep inside, and when we die, we go to pink elephant heaven; what fact is there that disproves that?
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>>1758041
>Since you conceded my point about your scientific answer being terrible
Theism in this day and age usually stems from mental retardation and an inability to read. Thanks for demonstrating that.
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>>1758024
>>1758063
>can't prove his retarded claim
>m...m...muh jooooooz
Typical theist behavior.
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>>1758073
Aren't you the exact person who claimed that all women are sociopathic because you rejected often for your /pol9k/ sperging? You're one to talk about mental retardation.

I also know what you're going to say and post next since you're not capable to avoid crutching on the same rhetorics over and over again since, well, you are hilariously awful at debating and getting anything across without making anything personal.
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>>1758063
don't forget they did 9/11
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>>1758060

And again how do you know its not myself?? You straight up dont. And have no proof. Look man. The only thing we can do is both keep living our lives to the end. We can argue about this shite when we pass on. Or not if it turns out youre right. Can we not agree to that? Or does the existence of my faith bother you that much?? Im personally keeping it to myself 99 percent of the time.
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>>1758073
I'm starting to find a correlation between people not being able to prove their points and insulting jews
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>>1758066
So you want to contest my claim that scientific answer to these questions is terrible? You're consistently avoiding this, the obvious assumption is that you don't have any argument against it. But if you have one, go ahead, I'm waiting.
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>>1758102
>projecting his life experience on others
Can you please stop doing [pic related] whenever a female Arab rejects you?
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>>1758064

Im not proving or disproving anything..i simply have faith that theres "something" after i die. I could be dead wrong but theres really no way for any of us to truly 100 percent be certain.
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>>1758112
>So you want to contest my claim that scientific answer to these questions is terrible?
I contest your claim on the basis of it being incoherent and irrelevant because:
1. Questions about "the purpose of life" are not scientific questions
2. The discussion is about fact that science doesn't deal with these questions doesn't mean you can make shit up and call it knowledge
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>>1758125
Not talking about you, as you weren't one of the fags insulting jewbro
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>>1758113
You're proving my points and predictions lmao, you're so full of spite and hate that you love to project the word "projection" often.

I remember that one time you and I debated about women rights. That was the very thread you were posting and crying about women not liking you not because of your toxic nature, but because of their supposedly "natural" sociopathy. Once I called out your shit, you suddenly did a 180 to pretend that you care about women and posted that exact same picture because you hate looking like an inept loser, despite proving yourself to be one on countless occasions.

Stop pretending you care about women or criticizing any of the acid attacks, I know that you secretly love it when they happen and have a folder full of them for your own personal use.
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>>1758073
>typical X

>jews are the ones behind both the advancement and downfall of humanity
>jews attack anyone who shows this
>when I was trying to post I was visited by jews

explain yourself
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>>1758132
Ok, so lets review your stance
1) These questions are worth asking. >>1757678
2) Science can not provide an answer. >>1758132
What now, smart guy?
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>>1758125
>i simply have faith that theres "something" after i die
Let's suppose a serial killer captures you and disfigures you to the point of unrecognizability, inflicts such extensive damage to your brain that you lose your memory and your personality is significantly altered (I can provide you with real case studies on this sort of thing), and to make things worse, he also pumps you full of personality-altering drugs, but you are saved before he kills you. In what sense could your friends and family consider the result of these extensive tortures to be "you"?
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>>1758148
Seriously, Mahmoud. It isn't funny. Stop splashing women with acid.
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>>1758180
that's another school of philosophy dude

first you have to see if personality is mainly intrensecal or extrinsecal

there's not consesus
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>>1758180
What kind of retarded argument is this? Why are you crutching on such an extremely specific scenario that's almost nill to happen as a method of "proving him wrong"?

>>1758187
Still not learning from your juvenile ineptitude? Tsk, and he says he isn't the monkey.
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>>1758176
>science doesn't answer questions outside the realm of science
>therefore if i just make shit up to answer such questions, they can be rationally regarded as true
You're a drooling retard.
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>>1758200
Also, stop chopping people's heads off for questioning your sand cult dogma.
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>>1758201
You didn't answer my question. What is your proposed solution?
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>>1758212
>aha! you can't tell me what the purpose of life is?
>therefore i can simply make shit up and rationally regard it as true
You are a drooling retard.
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>>1758222
The trips don't lie.
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>>1758203
Ah, you now care about people's human rights too? Maybe you shouldn't invade land that doesn't belong to you because zionism is, factually, cult dogma.

Come on, I'm sure you don't like looking like a drooling retarded hypocrite, do you?
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>>1757064
All things must,evolve,therefore there can be no such thing as omnipotence.
SOLVED.
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>>1757588
agree
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>>1758232
Also, you really need to do something about your IQ problem.
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>>1758222
I don't want a purpose of life from you. I want to know how should we go about trying to figure one out.
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>>1758240
Yep, still proving Point 1 and Point 4 in my capture. Perhaps you should redo your IQ level again because I'm sure it's impossible for you to have anything higher than a single digit.

I mean seriously, you were ranting to me about human rights of not killing human beings 10 minutes ago while simultaneously posting anti-gay violence that you are obsessed to death with.

>>1758017
>>1758028
>>1758080
>>1758097
>>1758236

Instead of looking like juvenile hypocrite whose parents didn't love, perhaps you should be the one jumping off the building, maybe that'll be the final redpill for you to consume.
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>>1758255
>I want to know how should we go about trying to figure one out.
If you're asking about the purpose of your life as an individual, then you should do some introspection to figure it out.
If you're asking about the purpose of all life, then your reasoning is circular in that it assumes life has an intelligent creator that has imbued it with a purpose, so you have not yet proven that it's even a valid question.
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>>1758255
Look up TOM CAMPBELL,my big toe,on Youtube (solved)
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>>1758271
>t. 84 iq points
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>>1758278
My work here is done. I'll leave you to run around and rant in circles before you exhaust yourself.

Hopefully you'll have more original material the next time we debate, you're becoming a bit too boring for my taste.
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>>1758291
>he thinks i actually read any of his posts
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>>1758275
>then you should do some introspection to figure it out.
Seems like a fancy way of saying "just make some shit up for yourself.
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>>1758308
>Seems like a fancy way of saying "just make some shit up for yourself.
No, because if you ask "what is the purpose of my life?", you're basically asking "what drives me?", and that's inherently a subjective question that only you are qualified to answer.
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>>1757064
>and secondly because of the way human consciousness can change reality on a quantum level
You're misunderstanding what 'observer' means with regards to the experiments. It has nothing to do with whether a person views the result; a wave collapse occurs any time a state is measured, as the act of measuring affects the state of object.
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>>1758360
>You're misunderstanding what 'observer' means
>observer
Possibly the worst choice of terminology in all of science. The brainlets will never leave it alone.
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>>1758144

Whoopsie daisy
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>>1758180

Okay this is a silly hypothetical you just posted. Btw. Ive experienced mind death twice before. Lots of mushroom trips. Im not the same me from two years ago. Or the me from 2009. But im still ME. Just not the exact me that i first was
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>>1758430
>Okay this is a silly hypothetical you just posted.
It's okay. You don't need to understand why this hypothetical is important yet, brainlet. Just answer the question.
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>>1758444

Why. What point are you trying to prove now?? It doesnt matter if others dont see me as me. Im still myself. Drugs do not erase. Only alter. Im still in there deep in my mind.
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>>1757064
False because of this, read the hitchhicher's guide again, retard.
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>>1758471
>It doesnt matter if others dont see me as me
Holy fuck... you are such a brainlet. It was just a way to formulate the question in a way that makes sense in the context of the situation. If that distracts you so much, let me put it this way: in what sense can the end result of these tortures be considered to be still you?
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>>1758483

Like i said. My self is just being suppressed by drugs. Thats not permanent so once that goes away ill be back to normal mentally. Do you think ill believe i wont be me after seeing my own mutilated body? What does this super specific question have to do with believing in more than just nothingness after death
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>>1758512
>My self is just being suppressed by drugs. Thats not permanent
Completely irrelevant.

>you think ill believe i wont be me after seeing my own mutilated body?
Incoherent and irrelevant.

>What does this super specific question have to do with believing in more than just nothingness after death
You'll find out when you actually answer it coherently.
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>>1758531

???? So now youre just dismissing my answers till you hear what you wanna hear? Looks like we wont be getting anywhere like this.
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>>1758558
>So now youre just dismissing my answers
No, you just didn't answer at all. Read the question and then answer it as stated.
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>>1758587

I guess idk how to answer it then?
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>>1758613
>I guess idk how to answer it then?
So you think it should still be considered to be you, but you can't explain in what sense it's still you?
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>>1758632

I suppose i cant? simply believe ill still be me. How would you answer your own question then? Also i would really like to know the point of it in the first place
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>>1758665
>I suppose i cant? simply believe ill still be me
Then you don't have any coherent idea of what it means to be "you" in the first place, so any statements you make about what happens to "you" are meaningless noise. Moving on.
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>>1758673
what happens to "you" when you die*
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>>1757564
take a puff and slow the hell down
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>>1758673

Does any of that have to do with believing in more than nothingness after death? Cause im still gunna keep doing that. Also can you answer your own question? Will you if you can? Or do you not know as well?? Im not messing with you. Just want to try to understand.
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>>1758699
>Does any of that have to do with believing in more than nothingness after death?
Yes, because it shows that your beliefs about "somethingness after death" are just vague feelings you have, not any coherent ideas that can be discussed.

>Also can you answer your own question?
Yes.

>Will you if you can?
No, because I know it will be wasted effort with you.
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>>1758716

Cmon telling me its a wasted effort is the same as saying you dont know how to answer your own question. Try me.
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>>1757064
The problem with being a fucking idiot... is that you're too stupid to know you're stupid. Try your best to understand that your brain can only provide you with so much, which is why when you see that picture that your brain uses all it's power to conceptualize... it couldn't possibly be more clear to you. You literally have no choice bec that's how stupid you are. I genuinely feel sorry for you. Have fun wasting your life trying desperately to justify your belief. Maybe towards the end of it you'll learn enough to know how stupid you sound to anybody with a shred more common sense and intelligence.
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>>1758740
>Try me
Okay. If I were to undergo such a procedure, I would not consider the outcome to be me in any meaningful sense, because it would have different properties from my concept of self, and there'll be no sense of continuity. By the same token, I logically cannot have "life after death". The "I" part of it invalidates the entire thing.
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>>1758844


Hm. Is that more or less what you were expecting me to say?? Cant say im satisfied with that answer. So what was the final point of that question that stemmed from the topic of believing in an afterlife of sorts and wether or not we can prove or disprove it.
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>>1758898
>Is that more or less what you were expecting me to say??
No. I expected you to not be able to answer the question at all, and that's exactly what happened.

>Cant say im satisfied with that answer.
Your "satisfaction" with it is irrelevant.

>So what was the final point of that question
That any statement you make to the effect that you will continue to exist in some capacity after death is meaningless noise, because you have no coherent idea of what it means for "you" to exist in the first place.
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>>1758945

Right. I understand what youre saying now. Thanks i guess. Although im still gunna keep thinking like i do and junk. Ill keep your words in the back of my mind.
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Fuck I'm too late to this thread.
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>>1760458
It's never too late to put in your two pesos, Paco.
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>>1760494
>Two pesos
two bricks*
>Wall.jpg
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>>1757069
If God is good and all powerful, and satan is "bad"and has no power other than temptation. So anyone in hell deserves to be in hell then and satan punishing them is actually good? Which would mean God created people knowing they would eventually spend the rest of eternity in misery making him a sadist asshole no?
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