I ran into a Born Again Christian at work about a month and a half ago who believed that the earth was both flat and hollow. I asked him how so satellites work, and he said that they work where because they exist in the environment. At which point I'm seriously flabbergasted because I'm really unclear on what he meant by environment... how far does it extend, isn't space an environment too? Literally what the fuck?
Why yes it is round. It's a round disc.
actually it it rounded to better deal with forces at hand. it'a a thing archs do.
BUT both pylons are perfectly perpendicular to the ground yet their tops are several inches further apart than their bases because of the curvature of the surface.
Why hide the fact earth is flat? If there is a ice wall that guards it's perimeter what is beyond that? How come everything else in the solar system and other cosmic bodies are round. Also how do you account for the fact that the amount of cooperation across all levels of multinational government to keep it secret is almost impossible.
easily explained by different distanced to the earth. the farther away away you are from a spherical object, the more of it's surface you can see. the closer you are, the less you can see and the more distorted the image will be.
smokes not moving the train is
need to be a bigger bridge to emulate the planet , moron
fish eye lens
film set vrs real life
do you even lift ?
Damnit u did it b4 me
>earth spinning faster than the speed of sound
>"orbiting" the "sun" at 55K mph
tell me then why we don't fly off? think of that speed
one way that you can tell ball earth is bullshit is that earth and it's supposed dynamics according to NASA can not be reproduced at any scale
>I don't get how taking pictures of the same thing can look different, it's almost like I don't have a concept of seasons, distance and perspective.
Fair, just seems like an overly elaborate way for a planet to form.
questions to "flat earthers":
how come gravity is different all over the surface of earth, if earth was merely constantly accelerating "upward", wouldn't differences in acceleration break earth?
how come I can see the sun go down behind the horizon twice, if I simply climb up a few meters immediately after if went first down?
weather conditions plus camera quality also come into it
flat earthers must think every other planet and star is facing its flat side toward us ..... its that or we are ment to be the only flat planet ? either way someones read too many terry pratchet books
Gravity, Air pressure, Centrifugal force. idk look it up
Of course we can't make planets dummy
But we can observe water spheres naturally forming in space, astronauts have made videos of it
The thing with flat earthers is that they believe the earth was created, I'm pretty sure.
>>tell me then why we don't fly off? think of that speed
because there is a thing called "gravity", you might have heard of if.
>>can not be reproduced at any scale
...what? if course it can, it's how we maneuver space probes through the solar system.
Whether or not the believe it was created is inconsequential though. They can't prove or disprove a creator of earth.
All we can do is look at the evidence around us and the best(most backed up) evidence tells us that the earth is an oblate spheroid.
Oh yeah that is true, except for the Terry Pratchett part, you can never read too many Terry Pratchett books.
No I don't breathe in and out unaided, I eat food and drink water in order to power my diaphragm, which then contracts and releases in order to suck in air and blow it out again.
>When scientists use the word theory, it has a different meaning to normal everyday use.
>In science, a theory is not a guess, not a hunch. It's a well-substantiated, well-supported, well-documented explanation for our observations.
>A theory never becomes a law. In fact, if there was a hierarchy of science, theories would be higher than laws. There is nothing higher, or better, than a theory.
>Just because it's called a theory of gravity, doesn't mean that it's just a guess. It's been tested. All our observations are supported by it, as well as its predictions that we've tested. Also, gravity is real! You can observe it for yourself. Just because it's real doesn't mean that the explanation is a law. The explanation, in scientific terms, is called a theory.
that didn't answer the question, though. you can call it whatever you want, it's still a fact that whatever it is that gives mass weight on earth is not evenly distributed and cannot be explained by mere acceleration which is the common explanation flat earthers use.
regarding gravity, I might just as easily say "flat earth has never been proven" and win the whole argument by using your argument.
so a magic bloke whos been around for ever thinks fuck im bored ill knock up a planet and fill it with stuff .... if its in his own image fuck me he had an off day when he knocked out retards who think this shit has an purpose beyond a bit ot trolling , if i cant explan anything i always look to fairys and magical people i cant see as the answer , saves thought , say an ahhhhhhmen in the sheep accent for me
we knew the earth was round from the age of classical Greece.Greeks even calculated its circumference,and they were pretty accurate too.In the middle ages everyone knew the earth was round.It is a myth that Columbus was the first one who wanted to prove that it was round.Columbus simply said that he was able to go to the Indies by crossing the Atlantic,the crown turned him down because the church(who knew the earth was not flat) rightfully said that Columbus could not successfully make the journey because he was a retard who thought that the earth was much smaller than previously thought and that his crew would starve because the food would not be sufficient to reach his destination.Italy and Portugal turned him down because they thought he was mad.Spain funded him because it was desperate of gaining an edge over other European powers.Columbus however,being a tard was persistent and when he gained the funds fro the Spanish crown started the voyage.He hit the Americas by mistake and pure luck which tends to favor the retards from the dawn of time.The rest is history.Columbus lied to his crew and didn't really reveal his true motives and didn't really tell them exactly where they were going.The crew was ready to mutiny when a sailor saw dry land and Columbus took the credit saying he saw it first the night before.
So yeah even the common folk in the Middle ages knew the earth was round.It was common knowledge.And we call the medieval period the dark ages not because of the myth that people were uneducated and stupid but because with the fall of the western Roman empire in 476 AD because few historical records survive of that time and it is a little unknown of what was happening at the time.Everybody knew the earth was round and they didn't burn witches and believed in hocus pocus.
I've yet to see an argument for a spherecuck that explains curved water
Yeah, I must be stupid because I don't have the same opinions as you, it couldn't be a difference of opinion based on evidence.
Also you shouldn't be calling out other peoples mental capacity and then misspell manage in the same breath(Yes I know you are typing, in this instance the breath was metaphorical).
watch this video. watch parts 2 and 3 and then return.
colorful pictures are nice and all, however the claim is still wrong because technically even the surface of the water on the flat container follows the earth's curvature. you could measure it yourself if you could afford the necessary precision instruments.
So if we reverse this idea can we say that there is no such thing as straight or horizontal?
I mean if we make a ring around the globe it seems to be straight to out eyes, but in reality it is curved.
"Flat containers" do follow the curvature of the earth. It's just so small you can't see it with the naked eye. If you had the correct precision tools to measure it though, you'd be able to see the curvature.
The existence of the horizon should be pretty much all anyone needs to confirm the earth is round
If the earth were flat, you'd be able to see for miles and miles and miles until the natual limits of the human eye (which is actually pretty fucking far, you lose detailed sight relatively quickly but can still see shapes and structures and stuff for miles and miles and miles, as evidenced by being able to see the ground and suuuuuper far away from airplanes because your elevated perspective makes the horizon much further)
Here is proof, not for debate
Shit is round. Gravity is real.
I don't believe you
The water guy is right, but I'd figure humans have found out how to make straight things that don't conform the the earth's curve.
What is that supposed to be proving
I don't think spherecucks are willing to debate in good faith, as always. We'll get em next time
I'm issuing a thread evacuation advisory to all Flatbros ITT
get out while the getting is good
We have found out how to make completely straight things, but having measuring tools as accurate as that isn't really needed for most people.
A simple approximation of straight is good enough to teach kids math and geography. Which is what a regular ruler is and does.
Also it isn't about belief, you can verify what me and the other guy is saying by reading books and doing web searches.
If you are using the Panama canal as a argument shit is dumb af. If water is confined to a small lock then yes will sit flat. Locks are need to raise the ship up over Panama basically. Raise the boat from sea level to the hight of gatun lake and then down again to the height of the Pacific. If they just dig it straight through to eliminate the locks all the water would drain to the sea because curve
If you had proper proof of a flat earth, people would take it in good faith.
Your issue is that when people prove you wrong, you yell conspiracy instead of amending your opinions.
look at a sunset when u are siting down look at the horizon then stand up and watch it again
>hey guys, lets make a group of all countries in the world, where we can discuss things with global implications.
>How should our flag look?
>Oh I know, lets put all landmasses there are on one flag, to symbolize all countries.
ok ill assume you arnt just a cunt
space station , .... what shapes the water , a clue it isnt flat and becomes a sphere , you explanation is complete
This is one of the best pictures I've ever seen.
Well how useful is it to know that a ruler isn't 100% straight from a school perspective?
I mean that is information I looked up because the subject interested me and because flat earthers prompted me to do it to refute them.
If the earth was flat wouldn't it go stright up?
Sphere niggers, its a sphere
that maps are usually centered at a certain country, usually the one it's being used in. the were looking for a viewpoint of a flattened out representation ("map") that included every country but wasn't centered at one specifically.
there are lots and lots of different ways to flatten earth, each with a different emphasis on trying to maintain equal distances or equal area. actually this is a problem that arises from...the earth being round. yeah.
Say this is fact, and you can actually travel to the edge and fall off. Gravity is no longer what we think it is in this case. What causes you to fall off the edge of your flat earth?
Actually, it is a tanuki. or a "raccon dog" native top japan.
Well I've never needed to know it either
Whadda want me to do, bend over backwards and suck ya dick?
I didn't believe you before but ya reinforced your case and now I'm inclined to believe it's true. What more do you want, my virginity?
did someone tech you a big world like metaphorical ? i know a big word also and its wheelbarrow
batterys are done for so some letters dont always land and to be fair i figure someones reading this out and explaining it to you anyway so grammatical nuanced synonym are superfluously expressed
"round earther" here, this is not an argument as satellites have to be brought into orbit whether the earth was flat or not, so shooting straight up makes no sense either way.
an orbit on the flat earth would be a circle above it. using conjunctive because it's not flat.
wtf is that? if i put that nonsense in a mirror can I read it then?
oh contraire , i fucked off to cut the grass , its your assumption that defys clarity of thought and requires explanation , in the i didnt start this shit you prove it , you`re statement you validate
I wish it was.
>tfw no cutie werewolf gf
Also just look at the moon. More exactly look at the Earth's shadow on the moon. The edge of the shadow is curved only a sphere can produce a curved shadow all the time.
I like how flat-earthers still haven't answered the question of why you can look further behind the horizon if you raise you viewpoint.
you guys only argue the things you have (pseudo) counter arguments for and just ignore the stuff that doesn't fit you view...
Not really, I'm perfectly happy with you changing your mind after me reinforcing my case.
That shows a willingness to look at the evidence and making a conclusion based on it. For that I commend you anon.
So your argument is still "You must be stupid, you can't possibly be disagreeing with me and be able to use a computer or language without outside help".
Good for you anon, why win an argument with evidence and honest discourse, when you can just proclaim victory and call people stupid.
You see, the jews that ruling the world wants you to believe that there is some bright future waiting for you when nasa will send rockets to other galaxy, but all this is just about your tax money.
Except if you're an americuck where all of my taxes go towards putting an ar-15 into the hands of an 18 year to shoot sand monkeys. feelsbadman
When you'd fall into a black hole, time will start to slow down for you, once you hit the event horizon, you will literally see the whole rest of time unfold in front of you
Not related, just neat idea
ok simplistic terms and why intelligence has nothing to do with stupidity
a 3 yr old will point upwards and see a Sun , a sphere in the sky , the kid will says its round
a moron will read and infer from others that theres something else and that it could be reasonable to assume its flat and thats its side points towards us
a screaming moron however will reinforce and broadcast parrot fashion to all who will hear brushing aside the concept that they could be misstaken , wipe the foam from the corners of you`re gob and move on knowing not that you came across a superior intellect .... for i am not .... or a mensa graduate of reason ... nope im a cunt .... but that purpose , heart and deire doesnt make things a thing when you`re thing is unthingable
dink .... dink .... dink...
thats the sound of my head on the screen , ive a friend called jack , off to find jack , wave pinkys in the pool , sit in the sun on this bright beautiful day
the truth does not fear investigation
Only in America is "I don't believe" a useful argument against the scientific consensus. DUR the earth is flat cause I think so. DUR climate change is a myth cause some brain damaged orange guy who has no fucking clue what hes talking about said so.
but many of these things have no connection. things are grey, not black and white. just because it's not "one thing" doesn't imply it's one specific other thing.
also, it contradicts general flat earth theory in which orbits *are* a thing, namely circles above the earth at different heights. it explains the moon in their thesis.
also it doesn't make sense. mankind wouldn't need to "wake up" and "they" wouldn't need to be afraid of us "waking up" if we ourselves wouldn't have build our world view over hundred of years. instead we could have educated ourselves about the real nature of earth and would be pretty much where and what we are today.
"Let's cover up the real nature of earth with fabricated stuff over centuries to prevent the population from waking up in a few hundred years!"
so again, why would you want to cover up that ea?
Because you retards fail to understand that your statements arent scientific at all, even though you act like you did thorough research. You don't even understand simple high school physics.
We could explain this to you again but we can't understand it for you.
Yeah because it's a fucking sphere. Try to find the edge of a basketball you faggot. If the earth is flat, explain the Magnus effect, the Corellis effect abs many other laws of physics that would be changed.
I don't get why the earth necessarily has to be flat for the existence of Creationist's god. Aside of Creationism itself, following a flat earth conspiracy has to be ridiculous even for young earth Creationists.
>The thing with flat earthers is that they believe the earth was created, I'm pretty sure.
Maybe, but most Creationists don't believe it is flat. Google up some of their zany websites, they usually explain why flat Earth is NOT implied by scripture, if they mention it at all.
if you ask me, both with mostly trolling.
I come to these threads because every now and then there is a new very good argument being brought forward that I can learn something from, may it be in favor of one of the other theory. I like educating myself and looking into older, rejected theories and the ones that replaced them in historic context. It is something you can learn a lot from, regarding our current state of knowledge. it's fun and I take everything written in these threads very lightheartedly.
>prove your assertions
I don't assert anything, I cast doubt on obvious lies such as the ISS (debunked).
changes in a visible curve depending on the date of the taken photo >>743372415
obvious composite images masquerading as photos or the "globe"
I don't care if people come to the same conclusions that I do about if the earth is flat. I do care that NASA and the UN have no problems with lying
You can watch a live stream of the planet you're living on genius. Not to mention that the ancient Greeks confirmed that the Earth was in fact a sphere due to lunar eclipses. How does it feel to deny obvious reality which primitive people confirmed thousands of years ago?
>what do you want to replace them with
nothing because I don't have mass indoctrination in my Agenda
it's already been proven to be a hoax ITT, NASA shill, don't waste my time
ok so now you just confessed that you have no idea about the theory you are defending. the sun is not rotating around the disk in that theory as that would not make any sense. if for half of the day it would illuminate the backside of the disk there would be no light on earth at all for half of the day which is obviously wrong. instead the sun hovers very close the the surface and moves in a circular pattern, only lighting parts of the flat earth at once.
I can't believe I'm explaining flat-earth-theory to a flat-earther.
the things 4chan makes me do, seriously.
Live in US. Call someone in South America. Ask them the angle of the sun with respect to a plumb bob.
If the earth is flat then the angles should be the same.
If the angles are not the same then the sun is really close to the earth.
If the sun is really close to the earth, we should be able to fly up there and mine it for sunshine.
If we mined it for sunshine everyone would be happy.
Everyone is not happy;
Therefore, the earth is round.
>it's already been proven to be a hoax ITT, NASA shill, don't waste my time
How? Where? When? By whom? You're not explaining anything. And again:
>You can watch a live stream of the planet you're living on genius
>nothing because I don't have mass indoctrination in my Agenda.
Neither do I, I want people to know about our planet and how it functions. If you claim the earth is flat and that a globe earth is mass indoctrination, you must have a valid scientific alternative to this notion. One which can be explained through experimentation and verified through a peer review.
Okay anon, I know this is gonna be difficult but please do try to keep up. If you were to get a ball that was exactly one mile in circumference and spin it at 1000 miles an hour, in that hour, it would make a full spin exactly 1000 times.
Now get a ball that's around 24,000 miles in circumference, let's call this one "earth", and spin that at 1000 miles an hour as well.
Oh wow, would you look at that, it takes about 24 hours to make one full spin!
>it's already been proven to be a hoax ITT, NASA shill, don't waste my time
Oh, and by the way, what's the name of that Nobel prize winner agian? Remind us all. I can only hope you're just shitposting at this point.
I'm not a flat Earther. I was noting the irony of a counter-flat-Earth argument that is accepted is a very bad argument.
Your explanation is impossible.
If you have light source, there is no way to only partially show that light on a flat surface. Try it with a piece of paper and a light.
You can either light neither sides (move the paper away), light both sides (light source at the edge, if you are precise) or light one side (light above one side of the paper).
Not sure if stupid or just a troll.
well yeah, it doesn't make sense, at all, but "they" just say it's the way it is. It has to be, in fact, in order to make the whole flat-earth thing work.