>>743269817 It was a way for businesses to make more money. they don't have to worry about paying the servers as much, and they can also raise the prices on food. Currently in Korea, it's super common to not tip, and I enjoy it, don't have to do stupid math to make myself look like a decent human.
As a carhop i make $5 an hour and i have to deal with customer "im always right" mentality all day. Tipping just makes us feel better and it also allows us to keep working. (you can get laid off if you dont make enough in tips for quote "poor service")
>>743270763 Not true, lots of places take all the tips given that day and then spilt them out across employees. I've worked in a few places like that. I use to give no fucks and just sit back and smile as the young good looking women would rake in the tips.
I'm glad I've seen both sides of it, I've never tipped in my life, you're literally choose to pay more for something unnecessarily.
>>743269817 see >>743270763 Why do the french have a long tradition of waiters that couldn't care less if you starved at your table waiting for them to come around? Because they get paid either way. There's no incentive not to be as shitty as possible at all times. American wait staff are frequently all over your shit. Drinks refilled quickly and courteously, problems checked for and resolved quickly. Sure we get shitty ones, just like you guys occasionally get someone that acts like they have a job. If we get a shitty waitress, we don't tip, the manage actually has to pay her salary upto normal, the manager seethes and fires her. The end.
Yes it's cheaper for employers but it's actually better for servers. Waiting tables is one of the highest paid UNskilled jobs in America.
You can fail out of high school and still make $50k a year working at a shitty chain restaurant that heats up frozen food; and that's above median earnings for most age groups. If you're better than average you can make close to six figures at a nice restaurant. All you have to do is hustle and remember to write down a simple order.
Working for tips improves service overall because your average unskilled laborer doesn't make the connection between hard work and high income without it being a direct and short-term connection. This leads to a better experience on average for customers, cheaper labor costs for restaurants, and higher earnings for the waiters.
If you could make the same amount of money without visiting that fatass at table 23 asking for more ranch dressing for his French fries, wouldn't you make your job easier on yourself?
>>743269817 Because on average America pays less at restaurants for the same meal in other first world countries who do not have a tipping system. Lower cost of labor means cheaper goods for the consumer. Here in the United States, it is your option to tip. In one way or another, it's not your option to tip in other countries because it's being taken out of the higher costs in your food. I'm not saying it's a great system, but that's your answer.
>>743271514 How does a eurofag restaurant tell? Wait for complaints? If a server is just slightly shitty, they won't get that. And you know the little fucks will hustle when the manager walks the floor, so they'll never see them slacking. It's pretty obvious when the tips are missing that someone is either a) pocketing and not reporting their tips so they don't have to split with the cooks and busboys supporting them ( fired ) or b) they suck donkey dick at their job ( also fired ). It basically let's the customers give feedback on every go. Also, I like tipping people that serve me well. You shits probably bitch about tipping in strip joints too. Fucking fags.
>>743271785 Minimum wage is 7.25 here. $4/hr is quite shit, so is forces the employee to "work harder" to earn the tips. Employers want return customers, so a "friendly staff" (even by figurative gunpoint) is how they manage. I worked at a Waffle House for a while, and getting people to want to give you more money can be rough. You've gotta have either some level of charisma... or tits.
>>743271792 >he goes to strip joints I am an italianfag , and to be honest, I have never seen a waiter not perform his job at least decently enough, and I've never tipped in my life. Stop trying to defend a blatantly legal theft. I, the customer, am supposed to pay for the product/service, not pay the employees.
Not only you are being robbed, your culture has managed to even make you defend this! Amazing... Truly American culture at its finest.
>>743271284 Lel, noice try faggot. Whether you're on a fixed salary or not ,you should do your job properly. Tipping is obviously an incentive for americunts, otherwise the lard arses would do fuck all, as usual.
>>743272975 'muricunt at its finest, needs incentive to get more $$$$ Proof, once again, you people are shallow as fuck and that your lovely "capitalism" works fine. Some of the lowest wages on earth, yet one of the richest country, well done!!!
>>743273107 Fair point. All that being said though I dont personally fuck with peoples food bc i could really care less i get tips just bc i actually go out of the way to be extra nice to customers. Especially regulars i often give them free shit and all and in return they choose to tip.
Because during prohibition people used to tip the servers in bars so that they would get better service and because since it wasn't an on the books job it allowed them to have something kind of income besides what the mafia was paying them, once prohibition ended the tipping just kept happening anyways so it spread out to most food services industries. You don't have to tip if you don't want to but it's considered rude. It's just an excuse for companies to pay their workers less and it also allows customers to feel in control when they're paying for their overpriced food.
>>743273357 >plesant >ok Use your tips for nightschool Also, if you cunts were respectul in the 1st place, the "illegals" might not spit in your food. Hey, here's an idea, why don't you work in a greasy joint? If you smart cunts did, there wouldn't be aliens in your country pissing in the tacos you enjoy so muhhhh
>>743273650 >We have all of that too without tips You don't, obviously. I've been to europe several times. American waitresses are much more amicable. Tipping is a perfectly fine custom and allows for individuals to make a lot more money than normal via performance.
Try importing millions of muslim rapists and terrorists; i think that's a better custom than tipping.
>>743273839 >been to europe Where, exactly? It's a goddamn continent, you know. >muslim rapists and terrorists Try harder americucks. Just because I don't agree with tipping it doesn't mean I agree with the muslim invasion. I'm no leftist cuck.
>>743274091 Is that even an argument? Your "customs" help resturant owners, not unskilled laborers. The latter should learn how to do their job properly, actually. European leaders are undermining our civilization, I agree, but it has absolutely nothing to do with tipping.
This thread is proving again and again that americucks can't think logically.
Especially when frequenting an establishment, it gives me power to indicate whether my service was fair, poor, or excellent.
There's a lot that goes into good service from a waiter... Some things are excusable if you're busy, but in general: Dont let my glass of water empty. Don't get my order wrong. Don't say shit like "are you sure you want it that spicy?" Don't ask me how my meal is every 2 minutes. Ask shortly after it hits the table, once again partway through, and once as I'm clearly very near the end of my meal.
This might all sound stupid, but that proves my point of the benefit of tipping. Without tipping, I'd have to explain that to a server, but with tips, I can communicate to them how well they've done their job.
>>743275324 Are you for real? Ie: do you need a slave to fill your glass of WATER? Unless you miss both hands, screw you! I could go on with your bullshit but i can't be arsed! Please give me a "tip" on your culture.... WTF???
It's a flaw in out system, that restaurants are allowed to pay less than mimum wage, for tipped employees. They put the burden directly on the consumer. They Encourage Tax Evasion, begging, and a poor I didn't get my way attitude. I never tip because it's your fucking job to serve me food.
>>743276103 Basically i can make 7.50 doing the bare min of taking fat fucks their grease patties or i can make more by going above and beyond whats expected. >>743275859 They arent a slave they are getting paid to do something you dont want to do yourself.
>>743269817 Because employers are able to somehow exploit loopholes and pay waiters/waitresses less than minimum wage, so the only way for waiters/waitresses to make a living off the job is by getting enough tips from the people they serve.
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