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What would you do about the North Korea problem?

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What would you do about the North Korea problem?
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>>741803375

Not antagonize the situation with empty threats
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>>741803804
What if it isn't empty?
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>>741803375

Let the moron make the first fatal mistake and then nuke him into the history books.
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>>741803851

Then the answer would change to: Not antagonize the situation with threats
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>>741804015
So what would you think about a preemptive nuclear strike against NK by the US?
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>>741804149

I think that's a terrible fucking idea
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>>741804149
that situation didn't happen when the ussr had more nuclear weapons than the usa, why would it happen when NK struggles to make one thats incredible unreliable ?
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>>741803375
Ben Garrison... Sperglord Supreme, Laird of Cringe.

never ceases to amaze me.
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>>741804254
I think it's a very good idea :)
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>>741804441

That's why you're not the Presid...actually, you probably could be considering how shitty this whole situation is
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>>741804287
Because in the Cold War and esp at the Cuban Missile Crisis there was rational dialogue between the US and the Soviets, both of them agreed that nukes should NOT be an option at all. That's how they deescalated the shit

With Kim Jong-Un, the fucker is a madman with nukes and no conscience.
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>>741803883
this. I mean just ignore him until he calms down or fires something at guam.

at this rate Trump is going to nuke the shit out of best korea because kim went na-na-boo-boo at him. and china isn't going to help if trump keeps flapping off at the mouth winding kim up
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>>741804287
because they insulted trump and he thinks he needs a war to make his presidency great again
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>>741804615

Kimmy doesnt want an actual war, he wants to say that he does so he can stay in power.

The more that Trump tough guy bro talks, the better position Kimmy gets put in. Trump is giving him exactly what he wants.
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>>741804615
>With Trump, the fucker is a madman with nukes and no conscience.

fixed that for you
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War time mutha fuckaaa
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>>741804728
China is going to keep their fat mouths shut and not do anything. Don't worry about China, they got nothing here. Lol
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>>741804940

China doesnt want NATO troops on their front door. They'll do everything they can to keep NK from falling
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>>741804907
No. And I support Trump because he's cleaning out the world's shit filter, good for him! We don't take bullshit from this fat ching-chong anymore
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>>741805063
I don't think they'll do shit except shut the fuck up and deal with it. Trump doesn't play
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Stop the US developing military power countries on the borders of other super powers and you solve the problem overnight
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>>741804940
I don't think any world leader, especially china, would/will actually do anything to help Trump.

I mean they can't lose, Trump either keeps coming off as a jackass begging china to fix his problems and blowing his lid over n.koreas hollow threats OR he actually nukes Kim out of existence and best korea becomes a slightly hot peninsula of south china. They can't lose by doing nothing.
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>>741805218
>overnight
because everything we've done over the last 50 years just disappears in a whuff of smoke?
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>>741805159

You think Trump wants a war? Fuck no, he's playing the part of tough guy. All this tough guy bro talk is hot air.
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>>741804441
Then you're the first person we're sending, on the front lines, through that minefield we call the DMZ. You'll be on your own with a long rope, good luck not getting shot or blown up. I don't care.
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>>741805249
I like how so-called Americans or allies of Americans actually sound like they prefer Kim Jong-un over Trump in light of this situation.

I hope there is a nuclear war so the patriots of this country can find your ass and treat you like the enemy you are
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>>741805339
Bombing and splitting North and South Korea was the result of America attempting to take the lot during the Korean War

So yes, the last 50 years is solved too.

Everyone in this thread is ignoring why North Korea exists and hates America and is a shit hole in the first place.
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>>741803375
China supports DPRK tho
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>>741803375
north korea needs to chill tf out
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Get China to stop feeding them and as they slowly die see if they are more open to diplomacy
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>>741805580
trump needs to chill tf out

what kind of tard gets riled up by the poor kid insulting him?
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>>741803375
I would've said just leave him alone until he makes the first move, but unfortunately leaving him alone buys him time to make the first move be a nuclear strike on American soil.

So I'd say get Russia to back us up on a full on invasion and/or nuclear strike against North Korea. If we have Russia's support, and we know we'll have Europe/NATO's, then there's no way China will come to North Korea's defence. It's mean a world war with the whole world against them (except maybe like Iran or someone).

This way, no world war, no nukes against the US, and while yes South Korea and parts of Japan may get bombed, they were probably going to get bombed anyway, and there would only be even more deaths if Kim Jong Un could hit more cities in Europe, America, or even places like India.
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>>741805595
yeah cause that worked during the last famine, it all does is punishes the people
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>>741804287
because autism is involved this time round
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>>741804149
I think the US and its leaders would be tried for war crimes. I also believe a pre-emptive strike without congressional approval is a violation of the constitution.
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Americans need a war because there empire is collapsing, country is broke, alliance are falling apart so lets pick on the country who cannot even manage to keep power in most parts of the country for more than 12 hours
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>>741805791
Fuck em, fuck em all
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>>741805767
Why does everyone keep saying we would nuke them back? Realistically if they nuked us we would invade conventionally seeing as they would have no nukes left.
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>>741805767
>first move be a nuclear strike on American soil.

do you honestly seriously believe for one fucking second that given another 50 years north korea could make a missile that would carry an active nuke through and passed all our cold war defenses?
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>>741806012
Lol the executive branch has been expanding itself since George W. They can do whatever they want. The last declared war was WW2. Read your history.
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>>741806066
why take casualties fighting a giant standing army?
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inb4 CIA coup
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>>741806040
Lol if you think it's collapsing you have never read your history books. America has gone through much worse than this. Give it time and we will bounce back.
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>>741806041
well brother, you just made a enemy of hulk hogan
https://youtu.be/fKJDAVvs_JA
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>>741806241
North Korea is already the result of American bombing after a failed CIA coup

Nothing new here other than how many americans are ignorant of their history of bombing it back to the stoneage
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>>741806041
My god man they are still human beings! They still have families and hopes and dreams like all of us. Have you no conscience or empathy??
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>>741806196
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>>741805767

Kim Jong Un would never put his current position at risk by attacking first. Even if he had emergency fallout shelters a mile under a mountain he would have nothing left to rule when he emerged.
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>>741806194
Dude we invaded Iraq in 2003 against millions of troops and hardly took any casualties. We would easily wipe the floor with them and their big army.
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>>741806196
Probably not. The age of conventional warfare is over. It's essentially cyber now. Russia is giving it to us good with that...
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>>741805063
China doesn't need that little strip of land to stay safe and they know it. They've got a million man army and strong trade relations with the whole world, they're as safe as they're ever gonna be. God knows why they give a shit about North Korea, it's probably just cuz they used to be commie bros but now that doesn't matter anymore, but they still have to keep the promise they made to protect them to save face. I don't understand the Chinese sometimes
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>>741806196
did you change your diapers, robe and wizard hat before or after you posted that?
faggot
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>>741803375
Cut them off completely economically/financially. Sanction into oblivion any country or company that does any kind of business with them. Put significantly more missile defense systems in Japan and South Korea. Track and covertly sink any submarine that leaves a North Korean base.

That'd be a good start.
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Norks are just a puppet from the chingchangchong cannibals...watch the fireworks soon!
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>>741806271
Who will pay the 20 Trillion in debts?
Cities going bankrupt
Media hoping and pushing a civil war agenda.
Not having a successful war in over 40 years
Good luck
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>>741806456
the situation is completely different, the nk army is over 3 times as large as saddams was and unlike saddam's most of them are actual trained professionals and not militia
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>>741803804
Pussy ass bitch.
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>>741806456
Lol
Yeah Iraq went really well, fucking moron
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>>741805477
Nice bait mate
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Chinks are in the hole for 100 trillions. asshole!
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>>741806597
Concentrated cyber attacks against weapons systems and nuclear facilities. Maybe do something similar to what we did to Iran with Stuxnet in addition to what you said. Cyber is the future of warfare.
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>>741806726
>actual trained professionals
[citation needed]
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>>741805340
if he gets a war he gets to be the wartime president, which could throw off investigations into him, maybe even give him some censorship powers. sounds fun for him
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>>741803375
Call China and South Korea, tell them with all due respect one of y'all pussies better final solution north korea before we go all in.
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>>741806685
Holy nigger fucking christ, you're retarded.
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>>741806799
seriously? they're are standing army. they're drilled every day under harsh discipline
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>>741806726
This is a blatant falsehood on numerous levels.
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>>741806788
They own America. Could bankrupt them in a minute. You really are clueless. Wow.
Keep chanting Usa Usa Usa. Help ya sleep at night
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>>741806560

NK is a convenient buffer and a necessary one at that. Of course they have a large standing army but imagine china having troops in Mexico, that would put anyone in the US on edge
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>>741804817
Implying it has not been great the whole time.

CHOO CHOO TRUMP TRAIN FULL STEAM AHEAD.
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>>741806889
so were the romans. being a professional soldier is hardly a quantifier for victory over the US military
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>>741804149
I'm ok with sending a couple armies of tanks and infantry and just kicking doors down till kim is dead, but nuking them isnt really the best course of action.
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>>741806796
Yes, good addition.
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>>741806842
Phew... argument really swayed me.
Forgot to add education system one of the worst in the world. Clearly showing in this thread
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>>741806928
China owns less than 8% of all US debt, and almost all of that is in treasury bonds. Treasury bonds have set maturation periods and cannot be cashed in at will.

Read a book you dumb fucking cunt.
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>>741806986
>so were the romans
yeah and the romans REALLY sucked at fighting
>being a professional soldier is hardly a quantifier for victory over the US military
never said anything about victory, i said why take the casualties of fighting them
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>>741806726
With soviet era technology. And their morale would be so low to start. Like any dictatorship they only operate out of fear. Most don't even want to be in NK seeing as hundred defect each year. Their ranks would break as soon as the invasion started. Mass surrenders would be inevitable and many would gladly great what many living their see as an inept and inadequate regime...
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>>741805383
Try sending North Korea a poem you fuckin snowflake. Maybe he will suddenly shove a dildo up his ass like you do to your dad while you cry about your feewings in your safe space.
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>>741806456
And the majority of those "millions" of troops ran off and ditched their uniforms. The ones we didnt kill and the ones we released became the first wave of what we're seeing today.
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>>741807008
Your claims about the nature of debt economics are wrong. Period.
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>>741806826

I doubt he's that oblivious.

Granted he's QUITE oblivious but I like to give everyone some amount of credit.
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>>741806755
It only went to shit with occupation. Gulf war was probably the best example of American Foreign intervention in recent memory.
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>>741806940
actually wouldn't bother me at all
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>>741806352
Throw this guy with them.

History/winners are determined by the Victor's, not the waambulance.
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>>741806889
THe last time the north korean ever fought a war was during the korean war, and most of them were fucking chinese anyway. We would fuck kims army up like a pitbull snatching up a cat.
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>>741806796
how do you cyber attack windows 3.11 machines tho

I mean a virus would take 11 hours to download and if Kim picked up the phone in the middle...
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>>741803375
North Korea has gone on long enough
>it's poor as fuck
>poor leadership
>no way of actually sustaining itself

I really think it's time to take over North Korea and merge it with south. It would be better for everyone even their own people.

I'm not even worried about their so called 'nuclear threat' because it's all talk, North Korea can't even afford to keep their own people alive let alone a war that's put some of the greatest superpowers into bankruptcy.
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>>741807097
>Completely ignoring GDP share and trade with China and other massive economical requirements
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>>741807281
>that comic

trump would actually kick him for gettting dirt on his boots tho
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>>741804615
Kimmy isn't doing anything he hasn't done before. The only difference is the moron we have in office that can't handle a situation that has a lot of precedence.
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>>741807343
That statement has ZERO meaning and I know for an absolute fact you have no idea what you're trying to say.

Kill yourself. Now.
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>>741804834
Exactly. Trump is absolutely lost in politics and is getting played by a pro.
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>>741807343
You didn't address anything that was said. Explain precisely how China's ownership of debt is structured and how said debt is paid and over what period of time.

Oh wait, you can't.
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>>741806928
Only about 2 trillion of our debt is to China. The lion share of our debt is owed to the American people. So really we are the ones the Government owes money to...
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>>741807281
Would SK even agree to do that? They may not want to handle that mess unless something's in it for them
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>>741803375
Nuke the whole country off of the face of the earth.
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>>741807544
Nor did you, you just spouted nonsense then got butthurt when someone illustrated how ignorant it was
Also I'm not the person you initially responded to
Fail some more
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Tell China to get their bitch in line or we will.
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>>741806417
If he was so rational he wouldn't be talking about offensive nuclear strikes, he'd be playing up the classic dictator moves of "we are building this for defence from aggressors" like Hitler did. Hell, he could probably even make a sympathetic case to all the Western liberals that he's just defending himself from the big scary imperialist US. And as far as things go at home, he has already consolidated power, he owns a totalitarian police state that has continued uninterrupted for over 50 years. While there's always something to be gained from playing war drums all day, making the US a big scary enemy, and endlessly building up a military, you could do that without saying you'll ATTACK the enemy. Hell, you know what, he'd be fine saying he'll attack the US as long as he doesn't say he'll NUKE us while also building actual nukes and researching ICBMs.

There's nothing to be gained from threatening us like this, these are the actions of someone who wants to nuke the US, not someone who wants to talk about it.
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>>741807544
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>>741806940
Lol if they suppressed the cartels then I would actually invite them. You do have a point tho in all seriousness, although I think China is less concerned about it then say Russia. Manchuria is pretty desolate and even if all of Korea was in Nato, that's still thousands of miles from their industrial, economic and population core.
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>>741807643
Yes you are you samefagging nigger piece of shit. You made a claim that is 100% false and got explicitly told how and why you are wrong.

Deal with it.
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>>741806597
oh you mean like we've been doing for the last half a century
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>>741806955
If anything Trump showed us without a doubt that a significant portion of this country is helplessly retarded.
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>>741807730
Keep digging that hole deeper. You don't have any idea how basic macroeconomics or sovereign debt works and you've proven that on multiple occasions in this thread alone.
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>>741806995
Thank god someone is reasonable here..
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>>741806685
everyone's in debt dude, money runs on debt

the civil war thing might actually bring us down tho
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>>741807643
Answer the fucking question.
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>>741807621
It would stop the constant tention between the two
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>>741807861
That's not what has happened ever. There has been no point in time where there has been a complete and total 'sanctions blockade'.
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>>741807113
**greet the idea of seeing the regime end
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>>741807940
>retard thinks its me hes been arguing with
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>>741808133
It is. You know it. I know. Every single person in this thread knows it.

You're dumb as fuck and couldn't even explain how national debt works when challenged to.
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>>741807116
I am sorry you clearly have a small penis and have thoroughly molested by all your male relatives.

Go fuck off to /pol/ you brainless cuck.
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>>741803375
As for most long lasting conflicts there is no easy solution. From what I have read experts seem to conclude that the NK atomic program is not for debate anymore. That imposes a problem because neighbous and US think sooner or later they can mount an a-bomb to a missile - which is currently not yet the case. It seems US is opting in for excalation in order to force china to shut them down. To me it seems the only viable option. This of cause implies that china has more interest in shutting them down then letting them have their way. Do they really? I think we'll find out rather sooner then later.
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>>741806940
It wouldn't freak us out so bad if they had already had troops in South Mexico for 50 years, and the North Mexican presidente was threatening to nuke China
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why isn't anyone freaking out about the Russia collusion?
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>>741807719

He's not doing this for the outside audience, he's doing this for all his subjects glued to state owned televisions, he needs his people scared and he needs his generals to think he's in control.

The more that he gets threatened the more he gets to show off and say "Look! we have nukes because of me! We are stronger than ever because of me, we are going to finally be thought of as equals because of me.

Kim doesnt give a shit if the world doesnt support him he needs to keep the peoples leash tight, all of this blustering and posturing makes him stronger
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>>741807123
Well the mistake with Iraq aside from invading in the first place was the occupation. Things didn't really start to go bad in Iraq till 2005-6. In this case South Korea would handle that way better than us. Plus it wouldn't have the outside influence of two regional powers competing over it and funding radical groups like Iraq did with Iran and Saudi Arabia(The real reason the middle east is a shit hole rn).
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>>741808230
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>>741807225
You don't have to be a fucking sadistic cunt to win. Tzu Tzu said "The best way to win a war is to never fight it."
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>>741806995
it'd be a good idea to start with, especially since a majority of his troops might surrender and the DPRK state might collapse. however, if a huge number of American troops were hit with a few nukes and killed before Kim Jong went out, it'd be hard to forgive
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>>741805159
is that why he pulled our of nato? or had mexico pay for the wall? guys a pussy
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>>741807281
Question would be would they ever fully reintegrate. Decades of communist repression and economic turmoil would most certainly take a lasting tole even after reintegration. East Germany to this way is still significantly poorer than the western areas that escaped the iron curtain.
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>>741807225
good idea, we can send Victor over too, they'll never stand a chance
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>>741805477
you hate china but cancelled tpp. that makes perfect sense. sit the fuck down america, the grownups are talking. china will turn your missiles back at you
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>>741806189
>they can do what they want
And it's unconstitutional.
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>>741808367

....what the hell are you talking about?
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Once Kim builds a doomsday machine, he will be invulnerable.
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>>741805563
shhh don't tell them that, china has them all confused
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>>741805595
yeah put tariffs on china and keep saying ch-I- Naa
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>>741805762
the american president. hahaha
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>>741807972
There's not gonna be a civil war. Why bother? Everyone still has food, water, electricity and unemployment is very low. No politician is behind it. There's nothing worth it. So many Americans think it's getting bad cuz they never lived through something bad enough to get us to that point and probably never will.
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>>741806747
the only pussy here is lord emperor. lets send everyone a fucking thank you letter
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>>741807375
oh i'm sorry, maybe we should reuse Obama's strategy of "kicking the can down the road as long as he can so he has nothing to mar has shiny perfect legacy"
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>>741807555
this, glad to see someone knows this
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Let's just get it over with, Hair Hitler will do the absolute wrong thing, as he always does
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>>741808747
Gemanfag here. This is exaggerated. Although in core true it's not that much of a difference. It's a different shade of grey rather then black and white. Incomes in the east are a bit lower, but such are the living cost. This of cause is generalized over the whole region. On the other hand the fall of berlin wall is 28 years ago. So I assume a full integration takes at least one generation presumably two.
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>>741808855
It is, but no one cares. Apathy is the greatest killer and the most incurable disease a democracy can get. That being said go out and vote damn it, your country and world depends on it.
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>>741807515
>>741804834
>guys what if
>guys
>what if we
>fbfbppf
>guys
>what if we did the same shit we've done the last 50 years
>fppffbpfpbpfpbfpbpfpbpfpbfpbpfb
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>>741808311
no, china will not shut them down. that's like asking america to shut down south korea.

honestly, south korea is tired of america's war mongering. as is every nation in asia
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>>741803375
Mandate all of the Syrian refugees have to move there. solve two problems at once.
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>>741808230
newfag
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Reminder not to fall for the propaganda kids
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>>741809632

>Guys lets...what if we just start a nuclear war?

gtfo
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>>741809493
It's kinda fun watching a modern day Nero run our country... So many great memes.
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>>741808422
>mr trump what about russia?
>i'd like to tell them thank you for expelling our diplomats

fuck russia, blow those fuckers up
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How about tell kim to kys?
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>>741809697
this
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>>741803375
Send Trump over there for a nude mud wrestling match with the midget. Televise it worldwide. Take bets on it. Money to be made. Trump would be all over it
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>>741808441
north korea is definately winning so far
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>>741809761
>nuclear war
>NK has one nuke
Woah

Not even to mention that we have anti-missile defense systems with a 43% success rate and that was years ago. Assuming they can get their single missile past, they're done for.

or
>just keep saying 'bad korea, bad!'
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>>741803375
World war 3
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>>741809698
Said the dipshit that doesn't know what a bond is.
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>>741803851

It's already been shown to be empty.

Trump said one more threat and you're in for it

they made more threats

he did nothing

that's literally the definition of empty.
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>>741809494
Lol well in America here it's been 150 years since the Civil war and the South still hasn't fully recovered. But you're probably right. Then again you guys do have the EU and the Western portion was 3 times the size of the East where as North Korea is almost twice as big as South Korea. Y'all Germans are smart af and hard working tho so I'll give you benefit of the doubt.
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>>741808422
imma need a source on that one
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>>741810081
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>>741803375

Spec Ops Assassination of North Korean Leadership, All of the main powerful figures taken out in one fell swoop. If they can't be reached immediately, drive them into hiding.

Simultaneous full invasion, strategic bombing of all of their military bases and missile launch sites

Put a western backed leader in charge, end communism in the area.
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>>741809975

So what should be done then? Posturing until WW3 starts?
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>>741810050
>china openly says if NK attacks first they won't help
I understand you're a shallow brained retard but just try to take everything in to account and not just facebook headlines
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>>741810138
What sides do you see WW3 being? Have you put an ounce of critical thought in to this?
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>>741809420
Congrats, you just described every President from Eisenhower's 2nd term onward.
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>>741809653
I think they are more tired of Kim tho. It's like the 2016 election, either way is gonna suck but one is definitely better than the other.
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>>741808441
true, i just think he can get the same kind of result by telling them America is about to attack while not actually prodding America into a possible nuclear war. He does own the whole media, after all.
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>>741810149
That claim was written in a national state owned Chinese newspaper.
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>>741809722
He says posting obvious propoganda
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>>741805767
Russia won't do fuck all because Trump is doing exactly what Putin wants.

Get all blowhard and tough on a country with nothing to gain and look like an idiot while the clown in power keeps poking the eagle and making him sqwak.

Putin is laughing at all of you right now.
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>>741808863
read the post it was in response to?
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>>741806560
It's racism- they can't stand to see another asian lose.
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>>741803375
what would obama do? that's what I'd do.
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>>741810275
What's your point? China has said that if the US doesn't strike first, NK will get no support from them. This is a clear, direct change in pace from previous administrations. NK has become even more isolated.

>>741810318
>mfw you can't disprove a single one
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>>741810127
have you not seen iraq and afghanistan
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>>741809939
KEK
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>>741806685

>civil war agenda
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>>741803375

I'm usually as strong a voice as any on favoring diplomacy over military action - both for ideological and practical reasons - but with North Korea I honestly don't know. Up until recently I would have said we should just leave them alone to collapse in on themselves, but that was when I still believed that they were doomed to be eternal failures who would never be able to build a working, nuclear armed ICBM. But recent events have shown that they may eventually be able to do all that afterall.

So seeing as they may very well be capable of creating a nuclear arsenal the question that I have to ask is: Assuming the world is going to have to take North Korea out at some point, then isn't it better to do so as soon as possible before they increase the amount of damage they can do when that time comes?

Granted, this administration is hardly the one to oversee that operation. And using nukes ourselves and potentially opening a Pandora's Box when we can wipe that regime off the face of the Earth just fine with conventional weapons would just be idiotic.
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>>741809653
Won't they? Then why is the US escalating? if that's not the plan? Trump admin going rogue?
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>>741803375

Another POS gone, now comes miller time
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>>741810201

Kim Jong Un doesnt want a war, he wants to keep his people thinking that hes capable of fighting one.

Trump is handing him the excuses he needs to continue developing his program. A war isnt likely but you cant threaten North Korea into stopping.
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>>741803375
What problem?
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>>741810232
you need to understand asian history a bit better. north korea came to chinas aid in the past. they won't forget that. not when america slave labors the chinese and puts continuous propaganda out about china
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>>741809632

So what should be done? Dont see your solutions
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>>741809653

Thats funny, at a time when most asian nations are arming themselves for Chinese aggression in the South China Sea.
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>>741809632
kek
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>>741803375
I'd nuke them. Then when they asked who did it, act like I didn't know what the fuck they were talking about.
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