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>Say kys >Go to jail Defend this.

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>Say kys
>Go to jail

Defend this.
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>>741603255
Her fag boyfriend would rather kill himself than fuck her for the rest of his life, or even 1 more day. He tells her this at length. She loves him. She goes a bit crazy. She helps him achieve his goal.
Temporary insanity due to unwinnable situation. He was going to kill himself either way eventually.
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>>741603255
It wasn't nearly that simple. She was actively encouraging and helping him to an hero for months. It's less about free speech and more about domestic abuse. If it were that simple I'd be against it entirely.
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>>741603463
So I cannot defend her being jailed.
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>>741603255
Doesn't matter due to her pussy pass she will get off with probation or some shit. It's a known fact that court systems in western countries are biased towards women.
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>>741603255
lol maybe don't be such a fucking cunt
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>>741603533
yup
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>>741603533
>domestic abuse.

by his gf. strange times.
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>>741603657
Yeah because they are weak and less of a threat to the public. And she probably won't be able to convince another person to kill themself.
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>>741603657
She got 15 months, not probation.
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>>741603860
I'll date her when she gets out.
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>>741603255
>telling someone to commit a crime
>telling someone who's contemplating suicide they should just do it
>convince that person they should do it even though they're having second thoughts
>detail how they should do it, in great detail
defend her and how people who do this benefit society at all

>>741603860
and sued for 20mil
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Since when is it illegal to send specific words to someone, most smart phones have a block number feature, charging her is violating her free speech but American justice is pretty much overrun by leftists so she's fucked
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>>741603860
it will be cut in half and they'll prob make the rest of her time house arrest,
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>>741603255
A wise man once said, "Show me a beautiful woman and I'll show you a man tired of putting up with her shit."
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>>741603255
>bf wants to kill himself
>she says do it
>he gets in a truck with the exhaust pouring in
>gets back out
>tells her he changed his mind
>doesn't want to die
>she tells him over and over to get back in
>he gets back in the truck
>dies

Telling someone to kill themselves is not a crime. Actively encouraging someone you have influence over who is suicidal to kill themselves after they attempted then stopped is fucked up.

She should die in prison, bitch is a totally narcissistic attention whore who wanted sympathy that her bf killed himself.
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>>741603533
It was weeks not months. And she didn't help him, she just told him to do it and he bought everything and did everything. And it wasn't abuse because she only told him to do it because he kept telling her he wanted to for months.
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>>741603255
>Defend this.
99% misrepresenting the case is 99% misrepresenting.
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>>741604042
Good. I hope her entire family dies in poverty.
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>>741603758
you do know there are beta males in this society, right?
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>>741603533
>domestic abuse
Wrong term. She didn't provide help to someone in mortal danger. She didn't phone parents, police or suicide hotline when she knew he was going to die.
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>Adult wanted to kill himself
>Had tried many times before
>Keeps telling this to an underaged girl on psych meds for some reason
>She tells him to get help, see the same psychiatrist she went to etc.
>He refuses, wants to die too bad
>Tries to get this girl to die with him in a Romeo and Juliet style because he's a psychopath
>After months of convincing, she agrees with his decision as it appears it's the only way for him
>Starts telling him to
>One time she tells him if doesn't want to anymore that she will get him help, he refuses again
>Eventually he kills himself
>She's blamed and has to go to jail for over a year (if she loses the appeal)

Please explain how this is fair and how she's not the real victim in all this? Also explain why it would be better if Conrad was still alive seeing as how he was trying to get this girl to kill herself, he may have found another young girl to get to do it with him.
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>>741603758
So domestic abuse is only ever male on female?
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>>741604356

>killing yourself over the opinion of a woman
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>>741604117
She got 2.5 years. All but 15 months is a suspended sentence.

Stop posting, you're just wrong.
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>>741604117
It was actually 2.5 years, eligible for parole in 15 months. So 15 months is the minimum she'll be in prison.
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>>741604453

i hear it's an issue for the homos, but otherwise, yes.
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>>741604437
What you typed out IS NOT why she was charged. Maybe read more about the case.
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>>741604196
Exactly, he had already abused her by saying he wanted to die constantly. She was in love and the only way out was for him to do what he said he would.
She was his captive as much as he was her victim.
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>>741604042
Suicide is not a crime. Her freedom of speech doesn't need defending. She benefited society by letting this psycho die so he wouldn't prey on anymore young girls trying to get them to kill themselves, and also no more tax dollars wasted on him.
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>>741604112
>violating her free speech
"Freedom" does not mean "fuck you I can do whatever I want." Her actions and inaction caused a death. She was tried, got a fair trial and was found guilty. But I'm guessing you know more about the law then the judge involved.
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>>741604437
See >>741604142
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https://www.scribd

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here are the texts, judge for yourself
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>>741604635
lol wut
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>>741604196
>And it wasn't abuse because
>>741604635
>he had already abused her by saying he wanted to die

You 2 have little concept of how human interactions should work.
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>>741604142
How is it fucked up, he wanted to kill himself, told her it was the only way he'd be happy for months, he was having cold feet in the last moment like getting married, so she gave him some friendly encouragement to finish his desire.
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>>741604673
His own actions caused his death. Casey Anthony and OJ were found innocent, what does that mean. The legal system doesn't always work and many times they are wrong, like in this case.
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>>741604801
Yes I do.
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>>741604873
The vast majority of people who make a suicide attempt or talk about killing themselves are trying to get attention and/or help.

Most people who survive an attempt never try again.

Pushing someone mentally over the edge, just because you can, should be a crime.

Justice was served.
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>>741604437
comes down to whether that behavior is acceptable. How about when he left the truck and she said GET BACK IN. you forgot that part
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>>741605081
>obviously
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>>741604730
That's beyond fucked up. I really cannot understand how you can tell someone you love them and then tell them go to kill themselves...

She must have a great lack of empathy or some serious mental issues.

In all honesty I don't think prison is right for her, she needs help.
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>>741603255
kys op your a fucking faggot
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>>741605152
boom, roasted
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>>741605252
Maybe she'll get it in prison. Or beaten to shit, either way.
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>>741605134
Well he wasn't one of those people, he had tried killing himself multiple times before. I also doubt most people who seriously attempt a suicide are doing it just for attention. There is no justice. He wouldn't want her in jail, so there is no victim nor are you satisfying anyone, except his family who would ignore his desire to die just to keep themselves happy.
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Its also worth noting the law (at least in Australia) takes into account in these situations how easy it is to make good on the apprehension.
If I tell you to fire yourself into the sun, that wont be as serious as if I tell you to get back into a fucking car full of exhaust fumes.
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>>741605152
So she told him to kill himself, like in the OP.
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>>741604730

hah, i knew it was a fake media stunt
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>>741605542

>I also doubt most people who seriously attempt a suicide are doing it just for attention

Never studied psychology then, maybe learn something before asserting points.

> there is no victim nor are you satisfying anyone,

His family?

>except his family who would ignore his desire to die just to keep themselves happy

Please post any evidence supporting this retarded contention.
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>>741605252
How does she lack empathy. He told her his life was miserable and that death was the only way for him to be happy for months. She empathized with his desire to die. If she ignored his desires just to satisfy herself by keeping him alive, then she would lack empathy.
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>>741605771
wut
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>>741603255
MY FUCKING SAMEFAGGING SHIT U FAGGOT FUCKING CUCKS THE BITCH WENT TO JAIL WITH A SLAP ON THE WRIST. FUCK THE PSYCHO CUNT.

KYS ALL OF U AND SAGE
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>>741605856

it's an elaborate media stunt
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If you're seeing a psychiatrist for your mental problems and tell them that you've thought about suicide, and then they convince you to go ahead with the suicide, should they not be punished?
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>>741605037
Who's hotter between Casey Anthony and this bitch?
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>>741605810
>Never studied psychology then, maybe learn something before asserting points.
You just made that up. There's nothing to study.

>His family?
You don't punish people to satisfy a family.

>Please post any evidence supporting this retarded contention.
What are you saying? Obviously his family would prefer he lives, even though he wanted to die, just to keep themselves happy at his expense.
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>>741605347
Idk what you two faggots are bitching about, but this cunt will probably come out of this as a prison king pin.
Can't wait to see the marvel adaptation
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>>741605855
Trying to help someone improve their life so they don't want to die seems like the empathetic course.
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>>741605855
Look at the text messages. He's clearly scared and doesn't want to go through with it, he tried to do it but got out of the truck with the generator, she then told him to get back in.

A normal person (4chan users are not included in this group of people, mind you), would not tell someone they love to go back inside the truck and try again.

Suicide is a permanent fix to a temporary solution. A lot of teenagers are depressed during that age for various reasons, killing yourself because you have a bad couple of years in your twenties means that you are giving up the possibility of being happy in the other 50 years you're going to live.

Also, a phyciatrist who testified for the defence agrees with me. He's saying that because of the drugs she was taking her empathy was impaired.

fox25boston . com/news/doctor-says-medication-may-have-impaired-teens-empathy-in-texting-suicide-case/532555726
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>>741605967
I understand what you're trying to say.

My 'wut' was more of: how could you possibly be so retarded as to get that from the court documents?
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>>741603255
This is a significant milestone in the end times era of Western civilization.

Thought crime arrests are just around the corner.
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>>741606448

that's none of your damn business
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>>741606417
Thanks for this man
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>>741606357
How is some random 17 year old who he doesn't live with and only ever met him twice. Going to improve the guys life?
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>>741603895
This is your future
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>>741604650
>Her freedom of speech doesn't need defending.
and her freedom of speech doesn't prevent her from consequences from excersizing such freedom.
just as you can't tell someone else to murder someone for you, you can't tell someone to harm themselves.

if she did the smart thing (called the authorities) or simply dropped the loser from her life, society and her life would be fine.
instead she decided to act like a psychopathic sack of shit, and is now getting burned for it.
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>>741606135
>Psychology isn't a discipline
Got it, moving on.

>You don't punish people to satisfy a family.
Yes you do. That satisfaction has a name: 'justice.'

>Obviously his family would prefer he lives, even though he wanted to die, just to keep themselves happy at his expense.

What the fuck are YOU saying here?
They wanted their son alive so they can be happy? Yeah, sure.

In your previous statement, you're making an assumption that his family knew about, and decided to ignore their son's mental health in an attempt to "keep themselves happy." PROVIDE EVIDENCE OF THE CLAIM YOU ARE MAKING.
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>>741604112
Intent is intent.
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>>741606664
They were boyfriend and girlfriend, where are you getting they only met twice?
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>>741606973
They rarely saw each other though. Mostly communicated via phone and internet.
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>>741606417
The doctor was just saying that to get them to go easier on her like an insanity plea defense. The meds messed her up. Unfortunately a lot of people seem to equate empathy with wanting everyone to live while that has nothing to do with it, it's about being able to understand people's feelings. She understood his desire to die, therefore she has empathy. Anyway even if you think suicide wasn't the best option for him, it doesn't matter because he was an adult and it was his life, so he can end it if he wants to and there's nothing wrong with it.
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>>741606973
Thats what the family said. And I'm pretty sure I read it. They were barely boyfriend and girlfriend, more like text buddies. Doubt they ever had sex.
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>>741606417
>Suicide is a permanent fix to a temporary solution.
Want to know how I know that you have no idea what you're talking about?
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>>741607080
Ok...
WHERE...
are you getting this? Source?
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>>741607192
...where did you read it?
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>>741607095
There's a big difference between understanding that someone wants to kill themeselves - And encouraging them to do so, especially when they are not capable of doing it on their own without the encouragement, which he was not.

Read the text messages on the night that he died, it's unsettling.

Of course the doctor is trying to make them go easier on her, I think sending her to a prison to share cell with someone that robbed a store is beyond retarded. But hey, 'murica.
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>>741606770
You can't tell someone to murder someone because that's incitement, telling someone to commit a crime. Suicide is not a crime and also has no victim, therefore it's ok. It probably would have been smarter to just ignore him, but she had moral character and tried to help him out, and now she's being punished for it. She didn't act like a psychopath, she told him to die because he said that was the only way for him to be happy. And we don't know if she's going to jail until the appeal is over.
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>>741603255
she looks like arya and cara at the same time
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>>741607202
how is that? (not the guy that posted it but still wants to know what you have to say.)
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>He said the only way for him to be happy was for me to pour boiling oil on him.
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>>741603255
Wrong or not, she was a still being a fucking leech.
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>>741607528
For a truly depressed person, life itself is the problem, and it may never go away as long as they live. I understand people are trying to help when they say shit like this but it really betrays their ignorance.
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>>741606922
No you don't. If I get some kid not to go to college, against his family wishes, you don't punish me just to satisfy the family. That is not justice. Justice is when there is a victim of something, and then you punish the victimizer. No the assumption that I am making, is that the family would prefer their kid live, against his will to keep themselves happy.
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>>741607262
On the internet just look it up.
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>>741607662
>For a truly depressed person, life itself is the problem, and it may never go away as long as they live
>may never go away as long as they live
>may never go away
>may

Go be self important about your depression to people that give a shit. Or get back in the fucking truck you faggot.
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Why is this news? Fucking retarded bullshit, just let her go for God's sake
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so, lets say for example, a mother encourages her child to kill himself, offers him ideas how to do it, puts the knife in his hands, shows him how to cut, then when he is about to cross the line, she encourages him to go over the edge - life isn't going to get better she says, is that protected free speech?
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Forehead? More like a fivehead amirite guys? lol!
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>>741607866
Yup
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>>741603255
Her hair shouldn't be pulled back to expose her bulbous forehead. Sweep it over to one side.
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>>741607350
He had attempted to kill himself before by ODing, so he was definitely capable of going through with the actions that would lead to his death. Anyway the point was about her empathy, you haven't given any evidence that she lacked empathy, that would mean she ignored him or couldn't understand his feelings or something or didn't care about his feelings. You can say she didn't empathize with his family, knowing how sad they'd be about his death, but then why would she put his family's happiness above his own.
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>>741607573
That would be murder. This was suicide.
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>Carter: Well… I guess [that I am frustrated] just because you always say you are gonna do it but you don’t, but last night I know you really wanted to do it and I’m not mad. Well, I mean, kind of, I guess, just because you always say you’re gonna do it… but you don’t but last night I knew you really wanted to and I’m not mad.

Stop pretending that the guy really wanted to kill himself and there was nothing she could do to stop it. She literally encouraged him to do it when he had second thoughts.
Also learn the difference between a random guy online telling you to "kys" and your fucking girlfriend telling you to do it. But I guess you fedora wielding white knights will never even get close to a woman to know how that feels.
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>>741607709
If we're making assumptions then the family would prefer he lived happily, and would have helped him to get there.

If I deprive you of a family member, justice is my punishment and restitution. Your example is stupid because it can be undone and is not a crime.

You can't bring people back to life. Michelle Carter deprived a family of their son.
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>>741603255
dat forehead
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>>741607838
No need for the carbon monoxide meme. I have a gun for when I decide it's time.
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>>741608132
And in either case he lives without her intervention.
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>>741603255
looks curiously like steve buschemi
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>>741607662
I guess you have a point, but how many percent of the total amount of people who kill themselves does this apply to? But how do you research this?

If a person kills themselves, you will never know if they would be able to be happy in the future, they're throwing that chance away. Then again, if you want to kill yourself, that's fine with me. You decide what you want to do with you own life.
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>>741607950
you're one edgy bastard ain't you? :')
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>>741608144
Exactly.

We're literally debating this versus people who legit want to suicide aswell. They're biased.
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>>741607409
>Suicide is not a crime
what kind of a shithole doesn't have suicide as a crime?
not only that but you're missing the point entirely and are arguing the same bullshit others have brought up and been BTFOd in past threads identical to this one.

>suicide has no victim
yeah the kids parents who spent the time money and effort raising him aren't victims of this psychopaths harmful and disgusting actions?
the kid who died (painfully mind you) isn't a victim?
are you really this stupid?
i hope someone you love kills themselves.

>she had moral character
if telling someone who's backing out of a suicide to finish the job is moral i think we share the same gay earth, difference is you're too weak and stupid to see right from wrong, i feel pity for you

dying doesn't make someone happen, it makes them dead. you can't be happy, when dead anon, stop trying to justify the actions of some dumb cunt.

it isn't like she was some random shitposter on the internet, this was someone who he was intimate with and had a close enough bond with to say they were dating out in public. her actions lead directly to the death of this man, which makes it at the bare minimum manslaughter.
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>>741603255

>what is she thinking?
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>>741608154
Suicide is also not a crime. Doesn't matter if it can be undone or not. A family does not matter, what matters is if someone was victimized or not. But also, he deprived his own family of a son, not her, which is ok since he shouldn't be making his family happy at his expense.
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It spells out badly for some of the /b/astards here who have encouraged suicide and rolled for it.
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>>741608437
>How can you drink a drink but can't food a food?
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>>741608207
We don't know that, but it doesn't matter. He made his choice.
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>>741603895
No me
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>>741608532
Assisted suicide is a felony.
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>>741608631
Yep, to get out of the truck, and live.
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>>741608779
Do the words have magical powers?
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>>741608881
Persuasion and influence aren't magic, so no.

But you certainly seem to be a magical kind of stupid.
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>>741608779
she's not the one who started the car
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>>741608415
America. There is no where in America where suicide is a crime.
No parents being upset at what their child chooses to do with their lives aren't "victims" of anything.
The kid who died is obviously not a victim, he chose to do it. You're not a victim if you want what came to you. What's next, you're a victim if you choose to spend your own money? No you're only a victim if someone steals from you against your will.
If someone I love kills themselves I won't be a victim of anything.
He told her for months his life was miserable and the only way he'd be happy was to kill himself. So she told him to for his best interest, which is what he himself said, she didn't just come up with it. Therefore she had moral character.
It was not any kind of manslaughter because she didn't cause his death, he caused his own death.
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>>741608964
She's the one who cajoled him to get back in when he said he wanted to stop and live.
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>>741608532
Suicide only recently became decriminalized, although attempting suicide is actually still a crime.

Rarely was either prosecuted when suicide was explicitly illegal, and certainly not now when there's an extremely weird legal distinction between suicide and attempted suicide (and no, simply surviving isn't always counted as attempted; for instance in some places if your heart actually stops but you are resuscitated by a 3rd party then it counts as successful).

Law is weird.

But anyway, I agree. She didn't do shit.
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>>741608817
And then he made the choice to get back in and die.
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>>741608961
Go ahead and kill youself. I dare ya.
Did it work?
Didn't think so retard.
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>>741608881
Words can be pretty powerful when they come from the people you love/care about.
Then again, how could the sociopathic 15 yo anon ever understand this? :')
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>>741608779
She didn't assist him, she just told him to kill himself. He did everything and bought everything while she was not present.
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>>741608599
kek
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>>741603895
cool maybe you'll kill yourself too
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>>741609127
I agree that it is ethically wrong. Civil lawsuit would be better way to go about it. She's already suffering as it is now.
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>>741609256
>She's already suffering as it is now.
No where near enough.
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>>741609089
man I really hope this is bait
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>>741606664
Someone's never banged a 17-year-old
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RIFK

BITCH ASS FAGGOTS

PROTOVISION1 WAR GOD
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>>741609333
I guess the trip tells the truth.
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>>741609089
Not >>741608961 but you have to take a few different things into account; him being in a very vulnerable state of mind and she being his girlfriend, i.e, a person of infleunce to him.

Sorry about your autism but life it's just black and grey.
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>>741609337
You literally got assblasted. Admit defeat.
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>>741609389
isn't*..
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>>741609389
It's ethically wrong I agree. But legally? No idea as she was exercising her free speech right.
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The only reason this is even a talking point is because most humans are pathetic and stupid and so we aren't allowed to just take their own lives, there are LEGAL stipulations for taking YOUR OWN LIFE. As if human laws and mandates have anything whatsoever to do with the spiritual realm, goddamn humans are so fucked and idiotic, just end this retarded species now.
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>>741609497
I mean there are articles and videos on different ways to kill yourself. Should we charge them as well.
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>>741608653

no me
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>>741609558
Maybe you should start with yourself then
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>>741608993
you should watch one of the "saw" movies.

she directly influenced his decision to end his own life. there's irrefutable evidence for this. not only that but her actions directly lead to this mans death simply by neglecting to inform the proper authorities of his attempt at suicide.
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>>741609497
I mean I'm not arguing that she should go to prison, but I definately think she should be thoroughly examined and get forced phyciatric care, as she seems to have a distinguished lack of empathy.
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>>741609089
If he did it, we'll never know.
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>>741609710
Civil commitment? That one I can agree with.
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>>741608437
Her forehead looks a little off in that shot.. Or is it me?
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>>741609777
Trips are truth
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>>741609710

if it were real she would have gone to a psych ward
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>>741609337
every fucking shitty shitpost on this shitty site is bait.
just a bunch of faggot google spambots relentlessly spamming bait trying to get free workers to solve their streetname problems for their computer driven cars
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>>741609826

lay off the bud you dumb stoner
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>>741609902
Please kill yourself.
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>>741609963
you first poojeet.
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>>741609963
Now you go to jail.
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>>741609826
There is NO weed that increases energy. This meme is absolutely retarded.
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Wasn't he a nigger or something?
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>>741610008
that's not how it works dumbass
if you can't grasp simple concepts such as this, maybe you should stick to acquiring neetbux and stay away from the harshness of society for the rest of your sad idiotic little life
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>>741603255
You shouldn't encourage depressed people to kill themselves. What's hard to understand about that?
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>>741603255
Ok:

She is a real cunt.

See? Easy.
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>>741610097
Why not?
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>>741603255
they were not bf and gf.... the media added that to make it more dramatic. he was a friendzoned cuck.
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>>741609707
You don't have to tell the police when someone is dying. If that was the case then those teens in florida who watched that man drown would have gotten some punishment. Also you shouldn't be trying to physically stop someone from committing suicide unless they're on drugs or something, it's their life and body and so they can do whatever they want with it. Anyway he made his choice, she didn't threaten or force him into it, therefore his decision is all his.
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>>741610077
For all I know you could be psychotic and you would be following every direction on /b/.
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>>741603255
>say "The theatre is on fire"
>Go to jail

Defend this.
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>>741610119
Yes, but this sets a precedent. Bye bye, freedom of speech.
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>>741610076
yes
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>>741609082
Nope, court said that was all her.
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>>741610186
That's like inciting riots.
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>>741606004
Casey but she's a baby killer so how could anyone stomach having sex with her.
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>>741610274
Well there you have it.
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>>741610235
You're not allowed to scream fire in a crowded building either.

Creating a panic is illegal. Why shouldn't encouraging suicide be such?
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Have no ballz to anhero here. Wish this qt had my number. I could use some help crossing the bar.
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>>741603255

fake news.
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>>741604356
...that need to be weeded out

give this hoe a medal
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>>741607866
>let's compare a mother and her child to a child (the girl), and an adult

No. Also she didn't hand him anything for his suicide, he did everything and bought everything. Also those situations are entirely different.
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>>741610384
/b/astards encourage suicide all the time.
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>>741609710
It was already determined she does, and she coerced him into doing it for the attention a dead boyfriend would bring. Fuck 30% of inmates are mentally ill and need psychiatric care in the united states, no one gives a shit about them so why should anyone give a fuck about this whore?
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>>741610384
They're gonna do it anyway. They're a burden on society.
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>>741603255
There is no defense for this.

This is the worse trial in the history of mankind. Remember this as the downfall of society.

If this bitch is sent to prison for literally using words to manipulate someone into doing something then it is ALL OVER.

I don't give a fuck if you think she's a nice person or evil or whatever, this is at its core either 1) straight up first amendment case or 2) a "good Samaritan law" case. The first is fucking obvious. The second one is so retarded Seinfeld made fun of it for you.
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>>741610052
Usually true, but I smoke some before doing yard work and it makes the time fly by, and I have the strength of 10 yard-workers. Eventually, I get stung by a bee and have to go inside, but it works for a while.
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>>741609419
>>741609089
I was >>741608961

You don't mean anything to anyone, how could you possibly convince someone to commit suicide? You opinion would have to matter to me. I would have to care about what you think, and not like my life. Neither are true.
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>>741610384
Creating a panic causes victims, and affects a bunch of people negatively who wouldn't want to be affected that way, such as being trampled or whatever. Telling someone to kill themselves, if they choose to do it, there would be no victim.
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>>741610160
>You don't have to tell the police when someone is dying. If that was the case then those teens in florida who watched that man drown would have gotten some punishment.
being this ignorant
those kids are getting punished you fucking retard.

calling the authorities informing them that someone told you they were going to harm themselves is entirely acceptable and removes liability of said persons harm to themselves

>>741610183
doesn't matter, no where did the poster suggest he was contemplating suicide, nor do you have any influence over said posters actions.
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>>741610610
>They're gonna do it anyway.
Cite your source
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>>741610384
>I insult someone on the internet
>person later kills himself for one reason or another
>I go to jail because I hurt his feelings
Get fucked, eurotrash. Feels good to be able to say that while I still can, no thanks to retards like you.
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>>741610620
>If this bitch is sent to prison for literally using words to manipulate someone into doing something then it is ALL OVER.
But fraud is already prosecuted and has been for over a hundred years, most fraud cases are manipulating someone with words to fork over cash or goods.

The right to tell someone to kill themselves or be pro suicide is not lost, if you read the texts she sent the major difference is she coerced someone into it.
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>>741605152
Who the fuck cares. It's just words.

What the fuck are you arguing? That you don't have free speech? Or that you're legally obligated to help someone that is in need?
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>>741610160
>Also you shouldn't be trying to physically stop someone from committing suicide unless they're on drugs or something
you're disgusting, and don't know the profound effects trauma, deppression has on ones life, their views, or nor decisions.
being drugged and attempting to kill yourself is no different than being sober and trying to kill yourself
you have an obligation to stop or at least attempt to get help for someone contemplating suicide
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>>741610546
But they're not in a position of influence. Telling someone you've never met to kill themselves on the internet != repeatedly telling someone who loves you and trusts you that their only option is to kill themselves and then when they chicken out berating them until they go through with it
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>>741610601
She did not coerce him. That would mean she threatened or forced him to do it, and she did not do that. She told him to because he told her that was the only way he'd be happy. She told her friend "I couldn't have him go on living how he was living anymore". The idea that she just wanted attention, was just something the prosecution said in an attempt to vilify her but is not the truth from her own words.
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>>741610659
Dood. Nice. When I was doing yard work with a friend he noticed that I got a lot more done and quicker when I boned up prior. He said weed was like my yard working potion.
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>>741610714
I can pick out anyone who seems to be depressed here and try to encourage them to an hero. People here do that all the time, rolling for it.
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>>741604402
This
In the judge's verdict it was her saying get back in the truck to an obviously mentally ill person when she knew that would kill him that signified reckless conduct causing death
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i agree.

this wasn't some anonymous neckbeard at some board famous for being edgy and offensive on purpose.

this girl knew the guy and thanks to the whole "cruel, idgaf women are so cool and empowered" attitude that the media has imparted on women since the dawn of soap operas and reality shows, she told a vulnerable human being to kill himself.

everyone who says a woman isn't capable of abusing a man etc are just pandering to this shitty "women are more or less children and shouldn't be held responsible for their actions" attitude that poisons their fucking minds and release gigabitches out in society.

she should be put in jail along with all the other histrionic personality disorder and borderline personality disorder cunts who get celebrated every time they fuck someone over.
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>>741610790
>being this stupid
good for you.

>>741610728
>if they choose to do it, there would be no victim.
except for the person themself, their families, and the society which now has to clean up said suicidal shitbags mess.
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>>741603255
deserved she told him to kill himself that's enough
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>>741610868
It has nothing to do with free speech you incredible retard
It has to do with her actions putting a mentally unwell person in a position to die
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>>741610751
No they aren't. At least google something before saying something.
http://www.cnn.com/2017/07/20/us/florida-teens-drowning-man/index.html
"Florida teens who recorded drowning man will not be charged in his death"
"Police: Family of victim 'frustrated' in lack of accountability"

You don't have to tell someone when someone is dying. You are not responsible for other people, as long you yourself don't kill them or harm them.
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>>741610728
>family distraught
>no victims

Pick one.
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>>741610728
>i'm too stupid to realize this actually does affect people and society as a whole
wew you're stupid and now everyone on the internet knows it, how does it feel mr shitbag?

inb4
>i don't care!
because how much you care makes how much of a difference as to how pathetic and wrong you are?
that's right anon, none.
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>>741603255
she's ugly
also she didn't just say kys, she legit encouraged him. she wasnt just saying it jokingly
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>>741611186
If family members committed suicide you might have a point.
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>>741603255
i mean if a guy would rather kill himself than fuck this bitch for another day she should be fucking locked up so she doesnt suck out the joy out some other poor anons life
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*cough* fake *cough*
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>>741611156
all i remember was that they were looking for the people laughing at him to charge them.
you think prosecuters try and charge people for no reason?
or maybe they do so to remove cancerous shitbags like yourself from the rest of society? hmm
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The Emperor would be so proud of her for using her Jedi mind trick.
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>>741603255
Bad precedent tbh. SJWs win again .
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>>741610876
Being drugged means you are temporarily in a messed up state of mind, and you can assume if someone never tried to kill themselves before without the drugs, that the reason they're doing it now i just because of the drugs, so you should save them until they're back in their right mind. It's not your responsibility to, but I think you should. And you should definitely not try to stop someone who is sober from killing themselves, it's their life and body and they made their decision. You have no obligation to stop them, it's the opposite, you have an obligation to not stop them because it's their life and body and their decision on what they want to do with it.
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>>741610907
>the prosecution said
It was what the psychiatrist said. Psychiatrists must report honestly on the patient not take sides.

Undue influence is considered coercion in law, it isn't just threats of physical or mental harm.
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she committed murder by encouraging him and telling him to get back in the car as it wa shappening, l don't know why this has gotten so much attention, she should plead guilty and that's all
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>>741610868
you are legally obligated to help someone in need when you contribute to the danger.
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>>741604561
Kek
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>>741606417
bitch is a psychopath even without the drugs.
just look at her fucking face/eyes
goddanm cunt died long ago and looks like a demon took over her body.
just see
>>741611348 (lol)
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>>741611053
The person who killed themselves are not a victim, they chose to do it.
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>>741610235
If someone loves you, and you use that love to convince them to commit murder, and they repeatedly back out of it, and you repeatedly talk them into it, you're not talking about a free speech issue anymore.

Blackmail isn't free speech either.
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>>741610825
This has nothing to do with speech. Fraud is you violating other laws. If you go "I'll sell you this lumber for money cause I'm a lumber tycoon!" and then take the money and don't give them the lumber, that's theft. The fraud part invariably is direct theft.

The manipulation is slick words used on stupid people but there's an obvious, prosecutable crime that was injurious to a third party.

This was a single party, no fraud was involved, no laws were broken, and while "slick words" may have been involved, you can't punish a person for being smarter than another person or society will take a shit.
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She should absolutely NOT be held accountable. This is fucking ridiculous.
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>>741611186
A family sad at what their child chooses to do with their lives are not victims of anything.
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>>741611536
No, you are fucking not. Where the fuck do you live?
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>>741611465
>people don't suffer delirium or deppression/suicidal thoughts outside of being drugged
fuckoff baiter, i already bated myself todays.
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Hope all you fucking hypocrites on this site get locked up for everything you've said in anonymity, shitbags.
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