I own several. Should have this in a couple months to add to the collection.
>Still falling for the "traditional gun" meme
Laser weapons are the future anon.
Me too, and that isn't stopping me from owning a gun. What if I get cancer or an autoimmune disease or something equally horrible happens to me? Gun ownership is the best hypochondria deterrent known to man.
>A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.
Read the 2nd amendment again, says 'regulated miitia'.
That's the National Guard and it should be in civilian control to oppose a tyrannical government from using the regular forces against its own people. That was the point as the British tried to enact gun control to control American militias prior to the declaration of independence.
I don't own "a" gun, I own many guns. About 30 handguns and another 20 or so long guns, rifles and shotties.
I carry a S&W 632 around the house and close to home. On the road it's usually a S&W 29 with a 3" barrel, outside my comfort zone I like a little more fire power.
I own glocks, M&Ps, 1911s, and other pistols, just like revolvers for carry.
>Read the 2nd amendment again, says 'regulated miitia'.
>That's the National Guard and it should be in civilian control to oppose a tyrannical government from using the regular forces against its own people. That was the point as the British tried to enact gun control to control American militias prior to the declaration of independence.
If that was true, why did they even put in the part about the rights of people? At that time the Militia was all adult males, expected to bring their own arms to war. Well regulated meant well supplied with ammo, etc.
Read the Federalist Papers.
Please read the federalist papers. You have no idea what you are talking about. In case you want the tl/dr version, every able-bodied citizen is the militia. Hell, even many state's constitutions spell that out in black and white.
It's supposed to be a civilian organization, and yes the rights of the people to own firearms in their homes too as part of that militia. Like Switzerland does I think.
I think, given when it was written everyone pretty much had a firearm at the time. It was a legitimate survival tool but also realize that the most advanced weapon of the time was the flint lock musket. Things have changed drastically, the population was almost entirely rural and hunted but today we're urban and the population has exploded. There's little wilderness survival or hunting as a daily means of feeding your family. The military and merchants or civilians of the day had similar capability, muskets, horses and ships. Today there's just no comparison to the might of the military to that of common merchants or civilians.
I have never read a state constitution, love a reference.
>I have never read a state constitution, love a reference
Sec. 30. Militia and the right to bear arms.
A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed; and, as standing armies in time of peace are dangerous to liberty, they shall not be maintained, and the military shall be kept under strict subordination to, and governed by, the civil power. Nothing herein shall justify the practice of carrying concealed weapons, or prevent the General Assembly from enacting penal statutes against that practice.
Doesn't sound like much changed except it was amended for concealed carry.
I live in Canada so while we can use lethal force or firearms if your life is in imminent danger, following the letter of the law makes it difficult and thus rare to do so.
We also have legal concealed carry but its about impossible to get. Some trappers or prospectors up north can apply and perhaps get authorized and occasionally people of high value if their life is in danger, but it's a federal process here and I've never met anyone with the authorization.
There are bases and militia in NC though, so how does 'and, as standing armies in time of peace are dangerous to liberty, they shall not be maintained' apply exactly?
This is a good reason. It's good to know yourself enough to understand your limits.
I bought a gun for my best friend, but I can't give it to her because I no longer trust that she'd be safe with it.
I think it only means that the state governor can't have his own military. Federal laws and state laws could clash but I don't think that the state law would prevail in this case.
Just fun to have. I don't have them for defense or hunting or anything, I just like them and have fun shooting them. It's the same reason I have multiple lightsabers or aquariums, it's just something I enjoy.
I don't own a gun. I own many. Why? Because I like shooting and military history.
Yeah all gun owners dream about that day. Just like everyone with a truck waits for the day when he may drive through a group of people on London bridge.
Did I say I also have a truck. Watch out
very nice, thinking about buying an Arsenal for my next AK......... hear nothing but good about them
>Can't, felon because of a DWI. So that sucks
Petition the Court to have that expunged. IF there was no injury, fatality, or excessive property damage, a lawyer should be able to walk that one through for you.
It's a 1911. The grip safety is a dead giveaway
That is a FEG PJK-9HP This gun has as a cool story with it in fact
Not real up on Supreme Court jurisprudence are you genius? Held, the second amendment is an individual right, not a collective right. Core purpose is self defense. It is a fundamental right and therefore incorporated against the states via the 14th amendment. Take your shopworn National Guard argument, toss it in the trash, do a little reading, and get back to us.
No nigga these are clones of the 1911. Just admit you're wrong you narcissistic virgin.
Thank you sir, I really like that SLR107
Yeah, they're miles apart
around here they run about 200-250, sometimes you can luck into 1 for 175
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FL anon here, there are NO license requirements unless you want to carry concealed. As long as you pass NICS you can buy whatever. NFA are 100% legal as well as long as you go thru ATF FORM 1 or 4 process
Very nice like the can. Just added an Octane 45 to my MPX
And a Sparrow 22 to my 22/45
very nice, I went with AAC Ti-Rant 45, they just started selling 300blk ASAP piston for it, good for 300 blk as long as you stay subsonic
why the fuck would they be expensive? the only reason they are over 200 now is because demand has risen, they used to go for about 80 bucks and even that was expensive for what they are.
I got one of the takedown lites but haven't bit the NFA bullet yet
They are becoming harder to find believe it or not. the days of the 100$ 91/30 are over. plan on 250 to 350 now. Remember when SKS's were $150? Mine was $200. Now they run 450 and up
I hate mosins with a fucking passion.
I am a gunsmith and one of the shops I do work for used to buy mosins by the crate for about a hundred bucks.
Then the kids pay to have them sporterised and "accurised"
waste of money.
but damn if I didn't wish I had invented the archangel stock for it.
So you've read the papers from the founding period and somehow came to the conclusion that the founders felt that an organized National Guard unit, controlled by the governor, and subject to federalization at the whim of the President, satisfies the constitutional recognition of "the right of the people to keep and bear arms"? I am not aware of a single historian, even anti-gun ones, that have read the documents from the founding era and come to that conclusion.
No, I believe the founding fathers felt a properly organized and maintained civilian militia was to be created and run outside normal government channels to protect the people from tyrannical government, as it had just happened.
Mosin is a first gun for people that think .22s are for pussies.
Personally I love shooting rimfire. I have an old Mossberg 44us that will out group most walk-ons at the range with their thunderboomers.
Also, I can shoot all day, cheap.
besides they knew about advancements in small arms and could have specified them banned, and didn't I am sure, for a reason.... regardless of your view the Heller ruling confirms it's a personal right so why argue a mute point?
>Mosin is a first gun for people that think .22s are for pussies.
that has not been what I have encountered.
I usually saw hipsters and history kids buying them.
that and kids who think it is a cheap entry into a kit bolt gun that they can make accurate.
I don't think it does anymore. If anything the right to bear arms is a feint to make citizens think they can successfully oppose the US government if it wanted to subdue them.
I like your style...
Simply a true /k/omando
Let me know when I can buy some rocket launchers, tanks, cruise missiles, warplanes and fighting ships so I to today can be at equal footing with the government.
Back then, you could equip yourself similarly.
well, I don't know if you are the same guy but the person who originally got this going here claimed that the national guard filled the role of the civilian militia that the 2nd amendment was referring to. i then thought that same person said the comment that I had replied to.
You don't get the whole package unfortunately. They strip the fighters of their avionics and fighting vehicles have holes cut in their armor and weapons removed or deactivated to demilitarize them.
>Let me know when I can buy some rocket launchers, tanks, cruise missiles, warplanes and fighting ships so I to today can be at equal footing with the government.
The might of the US military
A bunch of rice pickers with Chinese and Russian milsurp
replace the bags once a month or so, depending on how much I plink in the backyard
he actually used a variant and I am not sure if you are aware but finland has been lowering his kill totals over and over. Also, the kids that buy these things are not him.
no they aren't
Guerilla tactics work, ask the Americans in 1775 but you don't control the country. You only make those holding the ground grow weary of the conflict.
It doesn't mean supplied, though by definition of well working it would be.
If I ever need a gun I'll look for a fat white southerner, pound his face in and take it from him.
I just have no need for one at the moment. Guns are the refuge of the Republicuck chickenshits.
>Trust me, I've tried.
Watch the used racks at smaller gun shops.
You can pick up a good condition rifle for under 100, a pistol for under 150.
Blemishes and handling marks don't affect it's ability to it paper with accuracy, or protect your ass if necessary.
I can't find the source but the last I had read was that Finland was claiming less than 100.
But since I can't back that up I am not even going to bother worrying about it.
The garbage rod is at the most a 5 moa rifle, which is about the about the upper limit of battle rifle acceptable accuracy. I mean, at a hundred yards you aim at a chest you are likely to still hit it and the thing fires a massive frigging round.
>If I ever need a gun I'll look for a fat white southerner, pound his face in and take it from him.
Wait until I make some popcorn, I want to watch this.
(SPOILER: It dosn't end like you think)
Yup, but an American militiaman and a British soldier were equally equipped. The Americans were probably better off in actuality since it was their land and they hunted for survival, making them expert shots.
Today, you American 2nd amendment holder citizen with your moist nugget or AK vs the government forces would be very different.
You will not hold ground, it will not be an equal fight. You will live in caves or holes in the ground else try and blend into the population and attack with fury and vengeance before being quashed by overwhelming might.
How do you think foreign invaders can occupy a country like Iraq or Afghanistan for over a decade at will?
Would you relish the thought of being the equivalent of the Taliban in your own country?
Well Regulate as used at the time meant "well supplied, operating, and equipped with the latest and proper equipment." It had zero reference to government oversight or control.
Even today, a mechanical watch that is adjusted properly is called "regulated".
>Yup, but an American militiaman and a British soldier were equally equipped.
Aaaand back to Vietnam. Yeah we killed a shitload of gooks but we were run out by AKs and pits full of shitty pointy sticks before we came close to winning, and there weren't nearly as many gooks as there are armed Americans
You were run out because your politicians didn't treat it as a war, it was a police action with all sorts of stupid rules.
America is really bad at fighting wars too since WW2. Don't get me wrong, you're good at fighting just not at war.
>God damn, I sure hope that SHARE/HUSH/HPA passes sometime in the next year.
Won't do a damned thing for me. I live in the People's Republic of New Jersey. They'll figure some way to fuck it up.
I didn't know you had an M1 and F22 handy in your garage. How's the night vision, M320 and mk262mod1's (theres a newer one now) too? That weapon system even have burst? How many sets of heavy body armour do you have?
Are you able to call in air strikes and drop bombs on anyone with your laser designator over your encrypted radio?
You're nowhere close to equally equipped.
Then let's hope that SHUSH is the one that passes.
I think it is the act that would deregulate suppressors completely. Essentially making them an accessory. No ffl transfer.
It's not completely out of the question by any means.
NJ will still fuck it up. Adjustable (standard AR) stocks are considered "collapsible" here and illegal. As are "flash hiders", bayonet lugs, and mags (or other) over 15 rounds.
>Hence the National Guard replaces it today.
National Guard != Militia Never was, never will be.
BTW, do you know it's perfectly legal to own cannons and artillery pieces?
Also with the proper license full auto firearms. Oh, and flame throwers are legal, too.
Older than 50 years? C&R covers that.
Yes I do, and admit I always wanted a flame thrower, for home defense of course. =D
There's a couple companies that make aftermarket ones, but a good Vietnam era wand is about $5k. Problem is they de-milled the tanks from that era so they're hard to source now.
never seen a WW2 era one for sale, but in the 50's they were less than $20!
Canons I can see, but rifled howitzers and artillery pieces working from the modern age? I didn't think the US allowed citizens to have anything over .50BMG.
Something like this?
Several giveaways of AirsoftFag, mags in the back have the traditional winding wheel of an Airsoft HIgh-Cap..........fag doesnt even use mid caps
Secondly in Pic 2 there is a propane tank in the back left (used to charge gas pistols) right next to the charger with Tamiya connector for an airsoft AEG Battery,.
Source: USed to be an airsoft fag
Just show me a chamber kid, or at least ejection port in detail, please. without it you can take pictures the toy from all sides...
Moreover, really nice splitting line on the plastic in the front ;3
Collecting airsoft itself can be a pretty cool hobby.
Why do they always pussy it out and pretend it's the real deal.
If you can't purchase because of age, stand up and own that shit. Some day you will be.
I love this beretta storm. It's such a great
Gun. One interesting fact about that gun is the rotating cylinder which ejects the spent cartridges. If you have a weak grip (like every woman I've ever let shoot the gun) it results in a stovepipe jam almost 50% of the time.
Dont get me wrong, I enjoyed it a great deal and as a result handle realsteel with comfort now. Also made some good friends that way. However I never went around parading my toys as actual firearms. This bothers me.
>live in country full of gun violence and easy access to guns
>need a gun to feel safe
>the company that's selling the guns to me is the same company that selling guns to Jamal and friends.
>Gun companies win, everyone else loses.
>Don't tread on me Big Government. I'm doing just fine on my *gets head blown off by toddler who had access to gun on couch*
>he company that's selling the guns to me is the same company that selling guns to Jamal and friends.
Jamal and friends don't buy legal firearms.
Jamal and friends don't give a shit if firearms are legal or not.
The "Companies" don't want Jamal and friends to get firearms either.
Case study: Chicago.
How many guns we estimate get sold illegally or stole every year in this country?
Hundreds, if not thousands sir
And how many do we sell per year?
How many through state mechanisms that make it very hard to track the weapons?
Thousands sir. Maybe we should be more careful about how we...
STFU Gary. Business is business and sales are sales. It's not our job to give a shit unless it impacts sales.
It's meant to be read "[Because] a well regulated militia, being necessary". It's taking the militia part as given. I'm not going to say this reason is or ever was valid, because in the context of this law it's not important. It might have just as well said "because reasons".
I don't lean strongly one way or the other. Gun ownership taps deeply philosophical questions that are difficult to explore completely and difficult to reach consensus on. They're interesting for physical/mechanical reasons, but I hope I'd never be compelled to use one on a living thing. That'd just be a bad day for everyone involved.