>>740288080 This is their money the're paying you. So unless you lied during the application/interview process, you'll be OK. Because they're not gonna spend their money paying someone who can't do the job that they're hiring them to do. In other words if they hired you, you can do the work. The most important things you can do is to listen carefully, and learn by watching. Then work hard and be someone they can rely on.
Never place your hands where you haven't looked first. And always wear protection (even though saftey is often placed third). Don't wear rings or watches. And have fun cos it'll make you a man and feel good about working hard.
>>740288658 "Laborer" means you'll be helping out where needed, basically running around doing whatever needs to be done. They'll show you how to do whatever it is. You'll be fine. Be prepared to work hard. But if you do you'll move up quickly. What do you want to do is get some skills
>>740288080 I'm a construction manager What are you supposed to be starting as? There's only 2 jobs you'd be able to do in construction with no training >labourer basically sweeping up keeping the site clean and tidy doing any shit that's asked of you, nothing complicated , if you don't know anything just fucking ask >cabin cat You look after the canteen areas, clean the toilets, open the site up and any cabins Not too hard for you is it you fucking faggot, going on like a tit worrying about nothing will get you seriously hurt or killed now man the fuck up
>>740289354 What about steel beams protected by an asbestos coating? None of you fucking retards ever mention the fire proofing on steel beams in any fucking building or every fucking building. Why do you think there's so many dying or dead who have been around controlled demolitions where the asbestos hasn't been stripped
>>740288080 Seriously Anon. I'm a tech guy but I have a couple of contractor friends who ask me to help when labor is tight. I've done concrete, framing, roofing you name it with their regular crews. Here is my advise FWIW: they will bust your chops. Take it. Give it back. Don't be offended. When you start, you are labor pure and simple. Do what they tell you but be willing to learn and offer to do anything. At least act like you are willing to learn. And for God's sake if you're not sure about something no matter how stupid, ask for explanation. They will bust you bad, but respect you way more than if you cause something to get ruined or wasted.
>>740288080 Mexicans go from building mud huts and a week later they're building high end homes in the US. If that doesn't worry you it should. That's why so much money is set aside to pay off the inspectors.
>>740288080 What branch of construction. Best advice is to be careful for yourself and other around you. Can be very dangerous job if you don't pay attention all the time. Don't come in tired or hung over. Learn by watching. Don't ask many questions. Try to be intuitive with what comes next. Don't stand around if nothing to do. Grab a broom, clean up, organize. Just stay busy looking.
>>740291335 There's not always shit to clean up on the job. Chances are he's gonna get asked to measure something for someone or make a few cuts on the mitre saw. Showing up with a few tools looks good. Plus then he won't have to borrow someone else's when the time inevitably comes
>>740288080 Use baby powder on your ass crack and dick before you go to work, trust me it makes a world of difference. Also as the saying goes measure twice cut once. Learn how to use a speed square really well its the master tool really
1. Use common sense 2. Don't be a retard, if you're unsure of something FUCKING ASK but don't ask dumbass questions every 2 seconds. 3. If you're slightly more intelligent than your average hood nigger and work slightly hard and make it look like you care even a little bit, it's easy to move up, because most of the guys who do it are dumbasses and spics who don't know left from right. 4. If the supervisor gives you more responsibility or puts you in charge of something expect to have to baby every dumb cunt there.
>>740291795 Dude let me tell you there is nothing more annoying then trying to lay out a wall or fix a masons shitty work and having your laborer asking a million question about shit he doesn't need to know right now. There's no time for Q&A when doing carpentry. Job is got to hurry up to get to the next. If you can't learn from watching then you should be there. Try actually being in construction before giving advise retard.
>>740292286 >huuurduuur i cant hold conversations and work at the same time >>740292741 >>740292913 ^ these two faggots get it. In some lines of work (mine included) guess work can get someone killed. better to ask than to not know
>>740291868 These rules the best way to move up in any intro job. Do the shit no one else wants to do and make sure that the important people know you did it. Don't brag but find a subtle way to say "I did this, and x did that."
Also if you find people being annoyed at someone for being a shitter, don't do what they do, make sure to always be doing better than someone else. You don't have to be an asshole about it, but secretly treat it like a competition that only you know is happening.
>>740292391 Also this. My very first job was to move tools and a ladder around for some old fuck. He gave no instructions to me at all but I figured out what he wanted me to do. I felt like I wasn't doing jack shit but at the end of the day he gave me a beer and said "I like you, you're a good worker. Rare to see of kids your age".
>>740288837 >>740288658 Dont saw off your hand Avoid jamming your thumb when nailing Expect to carry many pounds of wood up stairs Take lunch even if you cant eat the first day Tie off when on roofs with steep gradez Drink tons of water its summer Grow a pair and expect to be treated as an adult Reminder many old old farts were drunks when young so expect these fucks to be readily annoyed at dumbshit, particularly excuses Move your ass as shit needs to get done like yesterday
>>740292741 Ya right. 22 years framing houses. I'm as good as a structural engineer. If you knew anything about carpentry you would know that there are a million little things that you have to remeber and asking questions will not help you. You learn as you watch in construction. This isn't middle school fuck head. It's real life mechanical hands on engineering. You want to ask questions then go to college for it otherwise you'll piss off the boss when he has a ton of things on his mind that need to go smoothly. There's no room for mistakes as a carpenter and you don't need a broom pusher asking you why this and why that and make you loose your concentration. You watch and you learn. you or anyone would never kick me off their crew. I'm a money maker. I get the job done. When my boss fucks up I'm the one who can fix it fast. If my boss don't know what to do, I'm the one who figures it out. There are no nice people in construction retard. It's brutal work and you have to have a brutal mental attitude about it. I don't need some little prick like you asking questions like a faggot when I'm trying to line up my double 16" lvl offset hips on a 12/12 16/12 pitch 30 feet in the air. Are you fucking kidding me man? Go back to your sensitive basement zone
>>740288080 Pick up the physically demanding tasks and do not complain. Show interest in more complex/mentally challenging jobs and excel. Be humble, develop relationships with artisans. Following this you will accelerate quickly. >Stonemason advice
If the workers pull out a bottle of liquor or weed or even smokes don't partake. Old timers can get away with things you can't. Plus you run into people that like to get others, especially the "new" guy in trouble.
If the boss tells you to wear your safety gear, wear it like it supposed to, don't wear your hard hat on backwards, because the others do.
If you have your hands in your pocket, you aren't working hard enough.
>>740293170 It's not about holding conversations. It's about having to explain something to someone when you are trying to get a job done. That shit eats up time and time is money. I can tell you have no idea and you flip burgers for a living.
>>740293321 >"I did this, and x did that." Faggot i hate your kind of cocksucking How long before you lie about what you did and didnt do Btw your the type of pos who turns and snitches fuck you Instead bust your ass and learn your trade, stay late, show early and have a brew on saturday after some overtime
I'd wait until the second day for this, ask first. Probably are using nail guns nowdays. Show up with a tool belt and a bunch of tools and all they want is have someone sweep or cleanup, he'll get a nickname that he won't want and will look stupid.
>>740293876 Na I'd rather have a job with the government, which is what im trying to do. I worked for the state doing landscape like work and it was the shit. If you stay and do your time in those jobs you get amazing benefits.
>>740293817 No man If you hire a newb youve basically taken on the role of a teacher if you expect him to be productive at any point. If you want experience then you have to pay more. But you're Jewish so you expect newbs to know everything and pay them minimum wage. It doesn't work that way, faggot.
>>740294000 I chose to frame houses. Still do it. I'm very skilled and a wanted man. I give my boss orders. I know my shit. Took me about 3 years to learn everything while humping lumber. There isn't anyone more respected then a knowledgeable carpenter. I don't know what reality you faggots live in.
>>740294045 I never lie about what I did and didn't do. And I absolutely snitch on people, do your fucking job you retard and this won't be a problem. I get priority on working overtime because I do my job well.
The only people worried about snitching are the ones fucking up or slacking off.
>>740294180 I'm not a boss. So I don't know what you're getting at. If you were actually a framer you would know you learn by watching. I can tell you all day how to lay out a rafter but you need to physically see it to really understand. Go to school to be a framing then let me know how your first day in the feild was.
>>740294497 No sir. It's very real. I've been living it for a long time now. Try actually doing something before pretending to know what it is you're talking about. This is the problem with you young fags. Think you know everything watching all those DIY shows and shit
>>740294675 Sick comeback. I'm sure everyone will turn the other way when a death is investigated and they try to figure out who was driving the forklift covered in blood. Good thing shitlord monkeys like you have no pride in doing a good job get laid off first.
>>740294528 6 months isn't enough time to build 100's of different styles of house and experience 1000's of types of structural failures. Stop trolling nigga. You don't even know what u talking about. How many house do you build in 6 months? I'm not talking about your Legos or minecraft games either
>>740294723 Not him but it's about being noticed and therefore moving up faster. Most construction companies where I live are 20 people or less. So it's easy to get noticed if you're first one there, eager to work. Also, unless your boss is a prick, you'll get paid for that half hour. It's not a "punch in, punch out" job.
>>740294940 That's what I'm saying. Those guys don't get how stressful the boss is all the time. That guy has to bang out the jobs quick to stay on schedule and make money so he can give it all to Uncle Sam and workmans comp. this isn't Union work/pay. Shit is for real. It takes a certain type of animal to do this kind of work and be intelligent enough to learn its complexities. I don't give a fuck I'll talk all day but then the boss usually yells at the guy to leave me alone so I can work. This is why you watch to learn in construction.
>>740295233 I work in a 3 man crew. Not a large company. Small business owner. It's a very different world and that's how it goes. That's all I'm trying to say. I don't give a fuck if OP gets fired on the first day. I'm just giving him solid advice for carpenters. People don't like my answer. Well, too bad cause that's the reality. I'm not going to sugar coat shit for anyone. I'm gonna give an honest answer.
>>740295536 Notice it no time wasted Reminder your health and well being is not always entirely in your own hands I mean watch your back Anon you have been alerted to the realness of jobsite conditions
>>740295529 Yea I get what you're saying. However I was the opposite. If I didn't know something I'd ask, more importantly I wanted to know why it was being done a certain way rather than "how" it was being done so when I came across a similar situation I could apply that knowledge. This pissed off the boss at first, but as I said in another post I'm his right hand man now after 4 years where as the guys that were working for him for 10+ years are in the same spot they were 10 years ago.
>>740295686 Ive lived so very well its a burden now even making decent money, i never expect to be rich Im good with health and good humor Sadly fucks like you around here suffer from some foggot disease where your happiness come from anothers suffering We have places for you on the jobsite, its called the union hall
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