For the love of God, how do I get out of the Friendzone?
>inb4 give up If your solution is to cut her out of my life, you aren't providing a solution that results in her becoming my girlfriend and are you are just merely advocating quitting, which isn't a real solution that gets me what I want.
>>739261228 HOW TO TRY TO ESCAPE FROM THE FRIENDZONE 101 : - Be strong - Be independent - You must show her that you're not obsessed about her - You must show her that you are able to socialize with other girls - Have a clean face - Wear correct clothes
It will not make her fall in love with you BUT a curiosity can be created If she think you're ugly well..
Just because YOU couldn't figure out how to do it, doesn't mean there isn't a way. I won't give up.
You don't now how to make it happen and your are only discouraging me because you fear that if I succeed where you failed, my success will only emphasize the fact that you gave up too easily and could have had the girl of your dreams if only you were not too weak to persevere.
By saying there is a friendzone its already to late for you thats an excuse therefore only course of action is either kys or stop thinking friendzone and make approaches till you are either shotdown or accepted personally i hope upu choose route one.
>>739261898 Kill yourself you stalker faggot. She doesn't like you. In fact, you probably scare her. This isn't a video game where you can get her affection meter up by behaving the right way. Are you a virgin?
>>739261228 >>739261228 you cant, you fucked up by getting there in the first place. learn your mistake and move on. trying harder will only make you less attractive to her. your best bet is to act better than her and not want anything to do with her for a while, do something interesting and see some other girls and let word get back to her somehow, then circle back in a couple months
Tell her you think she's sexy, and you want to fuck. If she says no, then tell her you can't be her friend, and stop being her "friend". She is using you for attention without giving you anything in return.
On the other hand, you can use her to fuck other chicks.
>>739263015 She has a boyfriend! I've been waiting for her to be single before asking her out because it wouldn't be respectful to make a move on her while she's in a relationship. That's why I've been trying so hard to make her see that I'm the better man, so that she'll break up with him and give me the opportunity to ask her out respectfully.
There's no "better man" for a chick who has a boyfriend and spends all her time talking to another dude She's just a teenager who doesn't know what she wants so she needs a dick and a shoulder, and you're the shoulder. You want to have a chance of getting into her pants? Start ignoring her.
>>739263279 tell her you like her 'but you have a boyfriend' give her a chance to think it over without blowing ur friendship in the process. when she breaks up she'll be thinking about you. it's the perfect excuse to friend zone yourself and build future prospects.
if she was single you'd only just be bringing it up now that she broke up and she'll be like 'wtf this whole time u weirdo'
waiting for her to be single before asking her out Btw, bitches don't do that. They jump ship, and there's always another ship. You've never had a girlfriend? Never been dumped, never had ur cock sucked in a public bus. She'll do that for the right man. But that's not you. Beta.
I was in the friend zone for 3 years. I gave up and lost interest but still remained good friends with her. 2 years later we went to Japan as friends and she told me she loved me. Now she's my girlfriend so that's pretty great.
>>739263786 I want to be there to see OP cry sad stalker autism tears when she sucks off some stranger right after (or before!) dumping current bf. OP's chances are 0% because he is obviously retarded and repulsive to women.
OP focusing on a girl who has no desire for him. Think about it this way. If you were friends with a really nice girl, had absolutely NO attraction to her, didn't find her cute, didn't find anything about her attractive, would you end up dating her? No. You could fuck her out of desperation but chances are the bitch you want isn't desperate. Give up pal.
I just tricked this pathetic pussy into the friendzone.
I'm a little disappointed at how easy it was. I like a challenge and this one was like putty in my hands. He tried to do the nice guy routine, pretending he didn't want to have sex with me, which really turned me off. It's disingenuous, dishonest and obvious. So I flipped the script on him. If he was going to be fake with me by hiding his true intentions and try to trick me into a relationship, why shouldn't I be fake with him so that I can exploit him for emotional support?
I told him I just wanted to be friends. He said he was fine with that (I still laugh with my girlfriends when I mimic the facial expression he made). Then I waited. After about two weeks of us talking about my sex life with my ex-boyfrieds in facebook chat, I invited him to come over and drink beers with me at my place. I had invited some other friends and they were already at my place when he arrived. After he arrived, I put on some music and started dancing seductively while constantly staring at him. I ignored the other guys in the room and I treated him like a king. I constantly brought him beers when the one he was drinking was empty. I sat in his lap and touched him a lot. I laughed at all his jokes. Basically, I gave his ego a hand job.
I repeated this process two more times, and by the third, he made a move on me. I shot him down of course, which was the plan all along, feigned surprise at his sexual attraction to me and apologized for giving him mixed signals. He accepted my apology and left.
Now he goes shopping with me, always answers the phone when I need some advice, helps me repair my car, and buys me flowers from time to time. He's a good little beta boy, who knows exactly how to please me. He's my pathetic little emotional tampon.
>>739261228 Kidnap and rape is the only way. Because if a person doesn't like you, you'll never get them to. Same question could be asked of why you aren't dating some half brained overweight gimp that lives in a home, but would love you harder than you could ever love the hottest woman in the world. You're the dick friendzone the chicks you're not into right, well it's in your control to change that situation and flip the tables on that situation. The chick you're after is a cunt and will never be with you. Face that shit and face your own shit.
>>739263786 She would never do this to me. I've been waiting to be the next guy for over 2 years. There is no way in hell she would have sex with some stranger after breaking up with her boyfriend when I'm clearly the logical next option.
Unlike the numerous summerfags, I am willing to actually help you.
You won't like it though. The path out of the friendzone is a one way only, there is no going back. Someone hit a key point earlier, and the point is that this is reality and not a romantic comedy. If choosing between a greek comedy vs tragedy; life is defiantly a tragedy.
So you can do this two ways but the end result is the same.
1) Stop being a white knight stalker faggot and following her around like a lost puppy(and we all know you do this, because you come off so cringey in this thread). Don't initiate anything and don't act enthusiastic when she contacts you, She will eventually ask if something is wrong or if you don't like her anymore or something similar. That's the sound of your trap card being activated. Just lay it all on the line and don't be too much of a faggot. Try to be alpha without being a neanderthal.
2) Don't waste time, get her alone and tell her you like her. Low key, not overly alpha and don't be a cuck or anything. Don't push it. Let it sink in.
Result) Likely failure and either way the friendship is either outright over or forever changed. 1 is fast and 2 is slow. You should base your judgement on her current boyfriend and if you can out alpha him or if he is the sensitive type.
>>739264687 >>739264687 >>>739263786 >She would never do this to me. I've been waiting to be the next guy for over 2 years. There is no way in hell she would have sex with some stranger after breaking up with her boyfriend when I'm clearly the logical next option.
This is a true master class in real autism. God bless you Anon.
>>739261574 >>finally gives up and pursues his own interests
>yeah, what you're gonna want is to get some friends to vouch for your character
Are you retarded? The whole reason people get into the friendzone in the first place is that they try to please a woman rather than just being real human beans with their own hobbies, careers, and life goals. Without that, you're about as interesting and useful as a vibrator, at best.
>>739264687 >>739264706 I am that anon and you are insane if you think she will choose you as her next. Not even a chance and for so many reasons. Either you are going to plant seeds and steal her or she will be bouncing on another dudes dick.
Women are not logical and their choices in men are generally batshit crazy.
>be me >friendzone with girl of my dreams >tell her how I feel one night >she just her heart broken blah blah blah >says she wants to be with me but isn't ready >thiswillendwell.gif >wait like 7 months >all fun times in between >we can both see she loves me >some drama here and there but all good >she tells me I should stop waiting for her >fucking kek.jpg >I go over to her house to confront her and say I'm done with the shit >tears.gif >I go sit on the couch next to her and comfort her >she stops crying >head on my chest >she's listening to my heartbeat >we're talking about things >it'll be fine.jpg >she looks up >she should not have fucking looked up at me.fml >we kiss >intensifies >clothes come off >pants stay on >we make out and talk for a couple hours >next day she calls me over to discuss what happened >we both agree it was a one time thing that just happened >throw off our clothes again.exe >we spent the next couple months as basically a couple >she tells me it's done >we argue >shit happens >don't talk for a month >worst heartbreak of my life >started talking again recently >kinda hate each other >she's leaving the country next month anyways and never coming back >mfw there is no happy ending even when you escape the friendzone >fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu.png
Whatever image of this girl you have built up in your head is not real OP. She is probably using you for something. Tell her how you feel and see what she says. If she is not interested in something more then what you have now, just cut her loose and get her out of your life. She will just continue to fuck with you for as long as you let her. You'll find someone else eventually, but you never will if you are held up on this one that is not interested in you at all.
>>739264100 Although it's obvious pastabait, it does raise good points. Like, don't lie if you don't wanna be lied to. You wanna fuck this girl ? Tell her, in a subtle way ofc. You play the platonic nice guy, that's what you're gonna be.
>>739265376 The friendzone is the exploitation of unrequited love. It manifests when a girl realizes that a boy is so socially clueless that he don't understand the phrase "let's just be friends" really means "I believe that I can do better than you" and then she consciously decides to keep him on the hook to get a steady flow of kindness coins.
I only got out of the friendzone once. I did it by getting a girlfriend, then my friend starting making out with me and telling me how she's always liked me. One of my male friends told me not to follow through and play her games, so I just stopped being her friend.
>Met a girl we'll call her S >We hit it off immediately >it was like we knew each other forever >Every time we hang out with each other we have a good time >Definitely about letting the good times roll >Realize oh shit I'm falling in love with her >We both hook up with other people occasionally although never tell each other about it >he friends become my friends my friends become her friends >thats where it was game over >now if we were to date and break up it would make things awkward >we have a reference already for what will happen >Told her I loved her when we first met >She said I did too >I said did we miss our window? >She said idk but now I am upset I wish I said something >Starts to cry >comfort her >sex >dating >you only live once fuck it man >we both think its better to have loved and lost >side note her dad is the man and our families like each other shes recently been talking about babies and marriage I am skurred.
>>739265669 Then interpret, "the friendzone doesn't exist," the same way. It's like saying you're stuck in imaginary jail. Getting out is literally the simplest thing: disclose your intentions. She either wants you or she doesn't.
>>739261228 OP, you are a bitch nigga with no game. This girl is lost to you. What you must do is prepare for the next girl who, you will want to fuck but the girl will try to friendzone you. It is obvious from your post that you are a whiney spoiled bitch that says shit like "I always get what I want" and "I will succeed where so many have failed". If you had succeed you wouldn't be here, you would be banging your girl. <br> How to prepare for the next girl who tries to friendzone you (there will be more because you are a beta cuck)? Well first you need to change your mindset about women. You, a male can never have female friends, unless you are a fag and the girls are your shopping buddies. If you like a girl you will ask her on a date and not a "date" where we hang out as platonic friends. On these dates your goal should be "how do I get her naked in my bed.". The mantra is known as "Always Be Closing" (ABC). You have 3 dates to close the deal; 1st you should attempt a light goodnight kiss; 2nd date your goal is to get asked back to her place for some kissing action, maybe more; 3rd date is when you will try to fuck her. If she tries to friendzone you on the first date but wants a 2nd, you should make yourself scarce and tell her you already have enough friends to hang out with. Remember you are a hot commodity and she is a cheap slut (basically she made you the cheap slut by using you as a shoulder to cry on). Turn the tables
OP has all the advice he needs. If this is real (and I doubt it is), he has shown no signs of even understanding the basics of how women think.
He will likely wait her out, maybe she will do some random guys before her next serious relationship, and that should be fun for OP. Maybe he can cuck it up and be hanging out with her when her booty call comes and he has to listen from the closet, bathroom, or outside the door.
She will likely even lead him on that she will be with him when she is done screwing around, but ooops she fell for this other guy. Sorry maybe next time. Hey maybe he can cuck it up and listen or watch. Maybe pose as her gay friend. There he will be in the bathroom drinking and licking on used condoms.
>>739263004 >>739266143 b/itch you are friendzoned because you are acting like a friend. You need to make yourself scarce, bang other chicks, hang out with guys. For Kek's sake stop being her goddam girlfriend. Let the dumb ho cry to her gf's about what her alpha male bf made her do.
>>739266174 I wasn't addressing you, OP, but since you bring it up...
You're being retarded if you think she'll date you merely because you're the first person she sees after breaking up with her boyfriend. She already doesn't see you as anything more than a friend and until you become more than a dull, directionless autist who only lives to serve her, you'll never appear as anything more than her emotional tampon.
Go do what makes you happy. Find hobbies. Follow a career. Study. Grow. Live on your own. These things make you confident and interesting and will automatically attract women who are better suited to you.
>>739266174 Yeah you let her know you are interested in her ... The best thing to do would to then stop talking to her. Fucking guarantee you you'll be one of the first people she starts thinking about or talking to after they break up, might even cause them to break up if she is interested in you. Seriously so many dinguses nowadays who whine and complain about being alone/single when all you have to do is fucking try and tell a girl you are interested in her and see what happens.
Beyond your actions and PUA mind tricks that you have learned, there is chemistry.
Chemistry are the little things your body signals without you knowing. Your hormonal balance etc. Womens' bodies catch that, subconsciously. That's generally why sometimes you are attracted to someone and you don't know why.
>>739263004 >>>739262283 >I'm doing everything I can to make her happy and yet for some reason, she doesn't love me romantically. She loves me, but not in a sexual way. I don't understand what I did wrong. You're a vibrator. You exist to please without having any interesting qualities of your own. She wants to date a friend with whom she can share life, not a stamped piece of plastic who doles out ready pleasure.
>>739266419 b/ro that is my policy. By the grace of Kek I managed to fuck 70% by the first date. It takes some pre-date work, laying down the foundation (sweet talking them, making them laugh, finding out what they like sexually), so by the time the 1st date comes around we are both ready to fuck.
>>739264687 Op I just want yoy to know I have been masterbaiting to this thread and this post made me blow my load. In sure you will get her. Just keep doing what your doing its worked out for you so far right? Make her eat eggs.
>>739261228 You're a beta cuck. You aren't good enough to be her lover. Get stronger, smarter and more successful or fuck off. Seriously, you aren't high enough in the dominance hierarchy so fix that or you'll never make her want you.
Actual advice? Stop being such a pussy, and act confident. Ask her out. If she doesn't want to be with you, that's it. There's no way to -convince- someone to like you. She either does or she doesn't. All you can do is be confident(all women respond their best to confident men. That being said, she could also just not be into you, so if that's the case, confidence won't help)
If she isn't into you, move on. There are billions of women on the planet. I can personally guarantee you on my life that she's NOT the best woman for you, especially if she's not into you.
>>739261228 it's your own fault for sticking around on the hope that "maybe she'll get with me" You're wasting your time and she is getting a shitty friend that assumes he gets her just because he's nice and has a dick. It doesn't work that way. Your 'inb4' bullshit was a shit way to seem alpha, it made you sound clingy and desperate.
>>739261228 Be forward about what you want and if she doesn't want to be with you then yes you have to stop feeding her attention and start looking at other women. Why the fuck would you waste your affection, time and energy on a woman who doesn't want to be with you?
It depends how deep into the friendzone you are. If you aren't too deep, you can just stop being too nice (I'm not saying become an asshole, just don't do nice things that no one would do for you), start by having an interesting life for yourself, maybe it will make her want to follow you. Most girls don't like boys who are willing to follow them, they want a boy worth following.
If you confront her about not wanting to be be in the friend zone don't be a nervous little bitch. "I ..uh.. i.. always.. liked you.. uh.. do.. you " if your going to be anything like that her vagina will dry to the point of pain. It has to be a natural and confident scenario. Best advice, find another girl, you start seeing patterns after being with enough and I can tell you the one you are into isn't a unique snowflake. There's hundreds more of her to be found outside your limited little bubble
>>739261228 Dude, bitch's not worth the time and attention you are giving her. Just to get this straigth, you probably are her "best friend" she knows she can trust you and tell you whatever she wants cuz you won't tell it to anyone. How mom and dad are mean to her, how she was "raped" when she was 15 or shit, asks you "why do you think my bf is so distant ? he won't answer me for days some times, omg I'm so sad :'(:'(:'(:'(:'(" So yeah, congrats, she needs you and would be pretty down if you left. Still, she probably has a shitload of other betas to manipulate.
I've been you. I've been 19 and in love with a girl that had a bf, but still meant everything to me. When she wanted to talk, I listened, when she wanted to cry, I gave her my shoulder. Eventually, I told her how I felt. You know what she said ? "I don't know. We could be together and it would probably be awesome but now I love him and I love you in another way" Oh and good thing I'm a little paranoid, I prepared a good lie for our mutual friends because everything you say to her, each and every friend she have will hear about it. Oh and after she broke up with her bf, it only took a week for her to get back with another of her exs
And you'll see, if you try to leave, she'll do everything to get you back. Cuz yeah, she loves you, just like the way I love my dog. And she also knows how you feel for her and WILL use it against you.
That girl have been playing tricks on you and left you dreaming way too long, it's time to wake up anon.
So either you just pack your stuff and leave without a word, either you go full apeshit and call her out on everything that has been wrong between you (and kidnap her, rape her then bury her alive in your garden).
>>739261228 not sure if OP is still here but I know some guys who managed to get from friendzone to girlfriend. its possible so dont listen to this virgin fucktards.
one for example, I do not like him at all for other reasons, wanted to date a girl but she only agreed to meet as friends. but he was pretty direct and let her know he wants a relationship, she said she didnt want but wanted still to be friends, maybe she just wasnt sure. after some months of friends they became a couple, cant tell you exactly what the final move was but he was very persistent, probably too much as he is a small psycho but it worked for him at least. the relationship went on for 3 years or so.
>>739261228 The friend zone is just her being too nice to tell you that she ain't into you. Every minute you waste on her you could be spending on a woman who will fuck you. If she is into you then if you cut her off she will come around and chase you instead. The likelyhood of her being into you though is extremely low. There are plenty of women on earth who would want to fuck you now go find one.
>>739261228 never put yourself in it, and as soon as you realize you are in it, make it clear you don't want to be. She can then either decide she's into you or not. if she is great, if not leave her alone.
the longer you are in the friendzone the less likely you are to get out of it.
i'm guessing you've been there a while. make a move, it likely wont work at this point though. at least you'll know and can move on.
>stop acting needy >respect yourself more then her >never act needy >go do fun things without her and tell her >stop acting needy >while with her, complement other chicks and play with them >never act needy >let her feel that you don't really need her in your life >stop acting needy >treat her like you treat other likeable chicks from this day >did I tell you to stop acting needy?
>women want a confident man who knows what he's capable of.
>be funny and fun to be around with
>so go learn some PUA Skill and that knowledge me later. Check out Bobby rio/tsb on fb to start with.
>good luck my anon friend. >PS you will fail but keep trying. You only learn from them.
>>739263279 This is why you're single. She has a boyfriend and you're wasting your time for that to end. What's so special about her anyways? Find another girl instead of trying to compete with another guy that she's already with. Girls hate faggots who try to compete with their boyfriends.
The only way to change that is to improve yourself physically. If you're already fit, and maintain respectable levels of hygiene and dress, you're shit out of luck.
Are your teeth fucked? Do you have no money and no prospects?
Even if you do change a bunch of things, she still might not come around. Sometimes this shit is literally down to chemistry. We're attracted to certain types of people for good reasons that we are not consciously aware of, like animal, chemical DNA type shit..
Reality is that most women decide within minutes or seconds of meeting you whether they want to fuck you or not, which is why the friend zone is so damn near impossible to escape.
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