So guys,to put a long story short, my boss is making me work on my day off without pay for "training purposes". Working that training would put me over 40 hours in a week. What I am asking,is what my bosses doing illegal? Pic for attention.Will dump entire folder if a lawyerfag can answer me.
>>739141709 Hes not getting paid idiot. Its not overtime unless you get paid for it. To the OP you can absolutely refuse to work if you arent getting paid and if he fires you thats wrongful termination and you can sue.
>>739141709 You fuck you are supposed to get paid for working overtime that is both on a state and federal level.It is illegal not to. >>739141709 Since Florida is a right to work state he could fire us all at once if he wanted. I've already emailed a few lawyers but i wanted to see if i can get a response on here since there are lawyer fags on here.
>>739141285 OP, for every hour over 40 the dept of labor requires that you get paid double your normal pay. Ask your boss if you can be paid for overtime and if says no then report that SOB. Also there are laws that if you report him, he cant fire you, decrease your pay, etc. to get back at you. He will be fined if he doesnt pay your overtime, OP.
It's so fucking obvious. Don't let this stupid fucking system make you think you can't fight for your right to have a reasonable life, because working over 40 hours without getting paid is NOT reasonable.
>>739141881 Just because it is training doesn't mean it is unpaid. And OP said "working that training" and over his forty hours, implying it was paid. So fuck off with your excuses. >>739141936 See above, OP never implied the training wouldn't be paid, just that it was on their day off and they didn't want to.
>>739141981 Hourly. I don't need it but I do like the line of work I am in. He has at max 10 employees he will eventually be able to narrow it down but there are laws that would protect me. >>739141991 They are calling it "training" but like a anon said above mandated training should still be paid for correct?
>>739142549 Training still has to be paid for according to the dept. of labor. Document your hours and make adjustments with HR or whoever does your payroll. If they try to not pay you then make it an issue.
>>739143136 Probably pretty dumb but i didn't know the magical word of "training" would make it any different >>739143242 These are haji owned stores by greedy indians who control all the finances. We have no HR.Hell,I cant even get my paystubs
>>739143283 Go and still clock in. Tell every single person there to do the same. Doesnt matter if its for training, federal law says you get paid for the hours you are there. >>739143442 Oh then dont be a dumb fuck and report these bitches to the DOL. Their shit is all kinds of fucked up and illegal.
>>739143285 All verbal.im going to talk to my coworker and get her to admit through text that I am working over 40 hours a week and that I am not getting paid for it. >>739143292 Literally have had no contract since this is just a family owned business >>739143349 I work at a vape shop.Even though vaping is for fucking faggots, I still enjoy helping people get off smokes.
it's illegal. when you hit over time you gotta get paid time and a half, indians are super fucking cheap. don't let them bend you over because they're too cheap to pay. if it's your day off tell them you made plans and that they can fuck off.
>>739143833 Then you are a retard who needs to log his actual hours and get what you are owed. >>739143918 Tbh sounds like the owners legit have no knowledge of how a business is actually supposed to work.
>>739143833 No contract. If you are a legal aid attorney you probably make salary correct? >>739143885 So basically i could tell them to go fuck themselves and it wouldn't look bad on my resume because I never legally worked for them?
>>739144043 America,Florida,Brevard County >>739144124 Yeah,probably.They were busted for selling spice several years back and somehow didn't get shut down or locked up. I guess because they had illegals work for them and blamed them
>>739144197 Oh sweet fuck it imma probably quit then tommorow and go back to working at a gas station.Might not like it as much but I won't be getting fucked. >>739144135 Imma bust so many nuts to this >>739144218 Yeah you are right.
>>739144322 Just go get another job at a legit vape shop dude. If you stay even another day you are a dumbass faggot who deserves to lose all the time you will. >>739144453 Then you are a huge dumbass for taking that job. Also it is still illegal for them to work you 60 and only pay 40. Contract doesnt mean shit
>>739144623 Trust me man,if I could I would but there are none hiring in my area. They wanted me to sell a guy a mech mod with zero experience building or ohms law. Didn't want the fucker blowing his hand off.
>>739145487 Time and a half is still double pay in America >>739145540 So because i didnt sign a contract means I can just quit without repercussions.Do all family owned business make people sign contracts of some sort?
>>739145889 Every legit business will make you sign a comtract of employment. If you did not then all you have is a verbal agreement to exchange time for money and arent actually employed by said business. So yes you can legally just never show up again and they cannot do jack shit about it other then you wont be able to use them as a reference for your next job
>>739145889 >So because i didnt sign a contract means I can just quit without repercussions.
legally? sure. that isn't saying anything about the repercussions of quitting your job and having to either explain a shitty old boss relationship or a gap in your resume.
>Do all family owned business make people sign contracts of some sort?
uhh, usually it's the family-owned business that are skirting the law and paying people under the table because the costs of running a small business by the books are just too high for many of them, or they specifically don't want legal employees for other nefarious reasons.. so, no. it's usually the opposite.
>>739146076 No one said anything about grammar, you dumbfuck. >>739143842 was originally talking about the stupidity of >>739142275 for saying OP never said he wasnt getting paid; then, OP voluntarily said "im probably pretty dumb".
>>739146107 But could I still take legal action against them since they would not be paying me for training and I would be going over 40 hours.Would I be able to win the case if I can get one of the owners to admit that I am working over 40 hours and not getting paid?
Training time is considered work time for which you must be paid. All training time is work time if it occurs during an employee's regular shift, or if it is required by the employer.
Training time does not have to be counted as work time only if four conditions are met:
1) It occurs outside of your normal work schedule; 2) It is truly voluntary (this mean your employer cannot directly or indirectly pressure you to attend, and there can be no repercussions if you choose not to attend; 3) It is not directly related to your current job (it is not designed to enhance the skills you use for your current job, but instead is designed to qualify you to get a new job); and 4) You do no other work during the training.
>>739141285 Save every email, txt, whatever. Go into office with your cell phone set to voice record. Tell him that you are not working/training unless you get paid. If he refuses then take that shit directly to a lawyer.
>>739146431 Welp,none of those conditions are met >>739146488 I'll probably then turn in my two weeks tomorrow then. I'd rather work for a corporation where I will atleast not be getting buttfucked since they will do everything by the books
>>739146745 >2 weeks Nigga did you not read what i just said.you dont work there. Dont give a notice. Just leave and find another job >>739146815 I mean he could try to prove it but it would be difficult and a timely process. Also he said earlier ITT he doesnt get paystubs
OP Idk if you're still in here, but I've been a HR Generalist for about 12 years now so I like to think i'm this is sorta my thing. As long as you're not a salaried, and are hourly employee this is 100% illegal. Report to your state dept. of revenue/work, as well as the federal dept. of labor. I would recommend you actually go to this 'training' as in the end you may be entitled to more compensation then if you just flat out refuse. Also if you report AND go then they will not suspect you until the government arrives and they get fucked.
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