Why all the hate for transgender people? We are just trying to live our lives the way we want to live. Do you not understand so your scared of us and don't know how to act? or perhaps in denial that you want to transition but cant find the courage to do it? Please tell me so i can have some sympathy for the morons that call me a freak or faggot. Understand that I have been fighting this my whole life and is not easy being constantly depressed about your body. i have lost so much because of this, but have never been happier in my life. friends that wont talk to me and jobs because of this. Its not like i want to be trans. I am a woman and always have been, I just would like others to see me that way.
> perhaps in denial that you want to transition but can't find the courage to do it?
Lol you are such a virtue signaling idiot. The hate towards trans is because society wants to normalize a mental illness, and pretend its OK, when its not. Just because you say, and think your a woman doesn't mean you are. Biology, and chromosomes say otherwise. People have no obligation to validate your delusions, now go back to crying in your safe space faggot freak. Most trannys end up committing suicide, hopefully this statistic continues to be true.
>is not easy being constantly depressed about your body
THIS. FUCKING THIS IS WHY.
Nobody forced you to transition. That's a decision your degenerate mind came to and acted upon.
YOU decided to slaughter your genitals to become something unnatural.
YOU decided to go against your biological gender in an attempt to increase your self worth but only doing the opposite.
YOU decided to be an attention whore and complain how hard it is to be trans, pushing away friends and family in the process.
And now that you're depressed that you're not truly a woman and don't have an ideal feminine body because you're NOT A FUCKING WOMAN you claim it's the haters' fault for making your life as a trans so hard?
Fuck off. If you're depressed it's because your brain is screaming at you for slaughtering your genitals.
Kill yourself and cleanse your degenerate DNA from the gene pool.
Because you fucking faggots want everyone to acknowledge and accept you, when nobody fuckinh cares. Your kind is just as bad as vegans that have to spout out how they dont eat meat in every fucking conversation their in.
Fucking self-centered assholes. I wouldnt hate your degenerate type if you werent total fucking annoyances about it.
I dont care what you are or what you do, just stop talking about how you like crossdressing or how youre transition is. You faggots complain about how uncomfortable you feel in public but you never stop talking about how you are a fucking freak of nature.
>>739139746 I defiantly don't want special treatment, You say entitlement but i don't think you know what it means. And you obviously didn't read the question. Why do you hate us so much? More politicians have been arrested for sexual misconduct in bathrooms than all of the trans community put together.... so riddle me this, how is using the bathroom that i identify with forcing my way of life upon you? And how on earth is that special treatment? If i wanted special treatment i would be asking for a fuck of a lot more than bathroom equality. And what privileges do trans people have? Having to constantly be on the lookout for bottles and garbage being thrown from cars? I must have missed out on the newsletter please enlighten me.
>>739139572 I'm talking about in the real world, but yes I guess i am being a little bit of a troll by asking why I am constantly being attacked for what i wear and the pronouns I associate with. Also yes i'm very new to 4chan only been on this site for about a year and this is my first thread.
>>739141670 Its as simple as, you want people to validate you for the gender, and biological sex you are not, and people aren't buying it. It affects not just the commenter, but society as a whole when the left tries to say its OK for a trans woman to use a girls bathroom, or a man who feels he's a woman can get his dick removed, because it changes are moral standards as a society. Regardless, you need psychological help, not validation snowflake.
>>739139786 Really? And what side are you talking about? LGBT? Because 90% of gays and lesbians don't understand trans issues because they are cis so i get just as much fleck from them as i do straight cis people. Ever heard of TERFS or Chasers? And I dont want the opinion of people who are going to bend over backwards to make me feel better about myself, I asked a question here for a reason, and am getting responses that i was half expecting. Misinformed, under educated and ignorance is what I see.
>>739138725 I don't hate trannys, I don't hate schizophrenics. I think you are delusional, the kindest and moral thing to do it to not go along with your delusion. I would not tell people hearing voices they are real.
>>739138725 >We are just trying to live our lives the way we want to live. Normal people are also trying to live their lives the way they want to live, but you people are the ones starting drama. Nobody would bash an eye, as long as those disgusting faggots relegated themselves to their own lives, and stopped trying to push their habits and demands onto people who want absolutely nothing to do with their degeneracy.
If they keep their faggotry to themselves, I'm pretty sure normal individuals wouldn't even acknowledge these low lives' existence.
>>739140216 Lol yes i agree some people go WAY to far with pride month. Just understand that they are doing because they want to enrage you and make you understand how stupid you are for getting mad at what others wear. You are aware that most people that are LGBTQQIP2SAA are normal people, drs, lawyers, pizza delivery drivers, mechanics, baristas, business owners and employees. We are all part of the gay spectrum its just how insecure about yourself determines where you are. We are all at least a little gay and if you say no your in denial.
>>739138725 You will always be a degenerate twisted freak injecting yourself with hormones to prevent the inevitable. You will end up looking like Lord Farquaad like all trannies do, before you scream and cry and jump off the George Washington Bridge. lol
Not all insecure people are haters, but all haters are insecure people. Hate elevates the hater above the hated. Haters cannot stop hating without exposing their personal insecurities. Haters can only stop hating when they face their insecurities, Haters rarely hate alone. They feel compelled, almost driven, to entreat others to hate as they do. Peer validation bolsters a sense of self-worth and, at the same time, prevents introspection, which reveals personal insecurities. Individuals who are otherwise ineffective become empowered when they join groups, which also provide anonymity and diminished accountability.
So back in the day, it was cool to hate on Jews. Then that became not cool, so people started hating on Blacks, etc..not cool, moved to hating spanish, not cool, then moved to hating gays, not cool. So they have moved to hating TS because of minimal protection
>>739140394 Wow your right i will kill myself thanks for enlightening me on my mistakes. Idiot. I have more friends now than i ever did growing up. Its the fact that i'm a gender outlaw that drove my old friends to leave me. I say fuck them, they don't want to be apart of my life then i don't want them in my life. I have done nothing to my genitals thanks for asking though. Im still confused on your point though. You think my dysporia is to blame? Trust me when i say i have been depressed for far longer than i have been out. One day you will understand that jumping to conclusions makes you look really stupid.
>>739143701 It's the opinion of the medical community at large that gender dysphoria can't be treated with conventional therapy and medication, so if you want to claim that's the solution you're actually the outlier and your only bedfellows are Christian scientists basicallly.
The Seven-Stage Hate Model has a wider application. For example, when a coworker, for various reasons, becomes a hate target, the hater immediately seeks out others in the office who dislike, or can be persuaded to dislike, the hated coworker (Stage 1). The group establishes an identity using symbols and behaviors. They use a lifted eyebrow, a code word to exclude the hated coworker from a lunch invitation, or any number of other actions to demean and isolate. The haters may even adopt a name for their group (Stage 2). At this point, the haters only disparage the hated coworker within their group (Stage 3). As time passes, the haters openly insult the hated coworker either directly or indirectly by allowing disparaging remarks to be overheard from afar (Stage 4). One morning, the hated coworker discovers his desk rearranged and offensive images pasted over a picture depicting his wife and children (Stage 5). Both sophomoric and more malicious acts of hate have the same effect. Eventually, the haters sabotage the hated coworker's projects and attempt to ruin the individual's reputation through rumors and innuendoes (Stage 6). In so doing, the haters make the work environment intolerable for the hate target (Stage 7). Scenarios like this occur every day across America and, indeed, around the world. The targets of hate may change, but the hate process remains constant.
>>739144576 >citation needed Also, I support trans rights because you have the right to mutilate and sterilize yourself. Now I don't have to worry about my children breeding with yours. Less genetic garbage on this planet.
>>739140395 Love you too <3 So misinformed, my guess would be a grade 10 education. Go back to class. Oh and obviously you care. ;) I don't talk about being trans like vegans talk about eating veggies. There isn't a book on how to be trans... Everyone experiences are different just like cis people :O shocking i know. I don't want to be known as this, I want to live my life the way you would like to live yours. Go jack off some more and calm down.
Lol yes I am aware that i am going against what society has deemed appropriate behavior for my assigned gender. Thanks for putting it so nicely. I am a freak of nature, Just like GMOs bitch. I'm better than all yall! haha
All in all, my biggest problem with it is that so many lgbt activists are trying to force little children with stupid and malleable minds to be trans or gay. They try to start pushing their propaganda as early as kindergarten and then there are real cases of 5 year old who go home to their parents and tell them that they are trans. 5 year olds who can't comprehend shit.
>>739145918 Transgendered faggots cannot control their impulses, most of them are closet pedophiles. This is why they force their agenda on children. If you call them out on that, they cry and bitch and endless stream of snowflake tears about being oppressed, thinking the government should be responsible for 'protecting them' with laws.
>>739138725 People don't like transgenderism because it's literally a mental illness that is being glorified by people who put stock in victim hierarchy.
You have confused lust with envy as part of some kind of twisted and needy hunger for affection, and you expect other people to accept it. And you know what? People probably could accept it and get over it, but you and your kind are pushing for major societal changes to accommodate you, a lot of annoying and corrosive bullshit that eats away at the very core of the gender dynamic.
People don't like that shit. I'd go as far as to say nobody even gives a shit if transgender people exist, the reason they hate you pieces of shit is because you're the cause of a lot of degenerate bullshit people see everywhere nowadays. Hell, you're even a symptom of an even larger cycle of degenerate bullshit yourself.
If you don't want people to hate on you, you know what you need to do? Pass as female, and never bring this shit up. You do that, nobody will give a fuck; if you pass for a woman instead of some crossdressing freak, people will treat you like a woman instead of a crossdressing freak. Just stop pushing your nonsense on everyone else.
I'm fine with trans people, just make sure you tell whoever you're sleeping with that you're trans so that they can decide whether or not they want to be with you and don't get pissy if people can't tell your gender.
>>739143337 A little different, but i can see where your coming from. This thread was mostly for the people that think its okay to attack and make fun of us for absolutely no reason. If you were a dr. and everyone called you a nurse wouldn't you be a little put off? And fyi I am seeing a therapist and a psychologist so as far as professional help goes i've got it covered. Thanks though. Go do some research and get back to me on how you think i'm delusional.
>>739143651 I'm starting drama by walking my dog and someone screaming "Faggot" at me while throwing a bottle out there window? I'm not talking about the people that look at me like i'm a freak and just keep walking too afraid to say any thing. This post is for the true douche bags of /b.
>>739138725 It's more that you have completely mutilated every aspect of your appearance into a grotesque mess, have severe psychological issues on either side of the coin (If you buy into this stuff, you said it yourself that you were constantly depressed and are still losing everything. If you don't buy into it, then you're massively delusional and took other people's time and effort put towards furthering your delusion, giving nothing back to those people.), have people on your side of the camp targeting very impressionable children because "the transition will go better", and overall are wasting a huge amount of people's time and energy with discussions, riots, articles, and coverage over whether or not you're accepted in society and whose fault it is or isn't instead of focusing on things that actually matter even a little, than it is that I'm "scared of you and don't understand".
>>739138725 I dont know any trans people, but I imagine there are three categories. One wants society to treat them as if they were the other gender, and "being" the other gender looks like the most obvious solutuion. They may not counsciously think this, but it's the underlying reason. However, this is a gender roles problem, not a gender problem. These people need help to realize that they are not the wrong gender, they just dont want to conform to traditional gender stereotypes. The second group is homosexual, but sees coming out trans as being easier than coming out gay. I feel a little bigoted putting this category down, but with all the sissy/trap threads on /b/, I imagine it must be somewhat common. These people also need mental help. The third and final category are the least comprehensible to me, but seem to be the most common. These people actually believe they are the wrong gender, with no other motivating factors. These people are like flat earthers or climate deniers. They deny facts and believe something untrue for no reason. Penis and a Y chromosome? I'm sorry, but you are not a woman. Reality will not change if you deny it. You are delusional and need help.
You see this shit OP? Your community brings this upon itself. Get your Cirque de Soleil sideshow to act like normal people, and then we'll talk about civility.
Since you wont be able to put 2 and 2 together, "normal" means go to work, dont call attention to yourself, and stay the fuck out of everyone's way. We dont give a fuck about you and your problems, and we dont want to.
>>739138725 We don't hate you because the way you are, we hate them because of your fucking community. The media try to force us to "accept" trannies, and pushing the transgender propaganda/agenda. It's ok if you're a "transgender", but it's not ok to shoving down our throats and say to the world and say you're transgender. We don't care about your sexuality. Honestly all that trans shit is just stupid. You can claim whatever gender you want, but no matter what you still have your biological gender. You can't change your gender permanently.
>>739148018 To elaborate, consider this: I am white, with no African family, heritage, or genetics. But I identify as an African. I demand that my friends, family, coworkers, and employer call me "the token black guy." I ask my girlfriend to say "fill my pussy with your huge nigger cock." I dont look black. I dont sound black. I am not, nor ever was black. Why the fuck would anyoune in their right mind listen to me when I say that I identify as a black dude?
>>739146508 What about the people that cant pass? Why do you care so much about what I wear? Are you so insecure about yourself you have to tell me what i can and cannot wear? Does the sight of someone different offend you? Maybe take a step back and look at yourself. I could probably say your a nasty pos but your not getting murdered for it.
>>739149961 >Are you so insecure about yourself you have to tell me what i can and cannot wear? Don't even need personal insecurity for that, I hate when people dress like garbage. Women's clothes are designed for women's bodies, they look like shit on a male form. If you can't pass, accept that people are going to call you by your biological sex and don't be a prissy bitch about it.
>>739149961 I'm not even the guy you're replying to, but the reason he said that is obviously because then you're not trying to show that you're transgender and are just trying to be a woman, which is what you want anyway, and therefore can't really be flaunting the issue. People that can't pass shouldn't try.
>>739146654 I agree, unfortunately trans people need to be open with that part of there relationships. And from what I have been reading, most people don't want to hear anything at all about gender so how do you suggest we go about it?
>>739150272 >most people don't want to hear anything at all about gender Then the relationship isn't going to work out. Most people also don't want to hear their gf has AIDS, but it should still be brought up before sex starts.
>>739148319 Do me a favor and type in "people of walmart" and tell me how many cis people disgust you. Don't call attention to yourself? Uhhhhhh sorry your argument is fundamentally flawed in this age of Youtube and Facebook. And people obviously do give a fuck about what I wear. Why do you get so upset at the person in the photo? Let them do them, if dykes on bikes want to drive around topless then why not let them? If some cis racist is going to tattoo his body with the confederate flag than why the fuck not. Its not your body so why do you care what i do to it?
>>739149343 Going to burst your bubble, I'm a lesbian and my wife loves it when i fuck her with my fem cock. Not all trans women are straight. You think that gender identity and gender expression are the same but they are not.
>>739138725 Well, first and foremost I would have to say it's because you're mentally ill. Secondly, your whole movement jumps any chance they get to call sane people misogynistic, ableist and all other sorts of shit simply because sane folks don't agree with their ideology and opinions.
>>739140037 I didn't want or expect anyone here to accept me. Your reading into this too much just answer the question. So far all i have heard is. I'm a freak for wanting something, and don't come close to me because i'm so insecure about myself the sight of a trans person is offensive to me. Sound about right?
>>739138725 Can't tell if this is bait or not, but I'm a tranny on 4chan too. Male to female, and I grew up in a very Christian, nonaccepting house hold. I'm not able to come out or do anything related that she might catch. Own makeup or anything feminine, etc,otherwise I'm liable to lose the roof over my head. She says a lot of transphobic and homophobic shit, but that's why I go to 4chan. The negativity here is just negativity. I don't let her remarks mean more to me than that anon over there. Otherwise, memes are neat, and sometimes it's good to have a dose of different opinions.
>>739149630 Dam straight i did. I also wanted a look into the mind of transphobes. It has really opened my eyes to how terribly under educated and misinformed most of you are. Though i still haven't seen anyone post Fag 100 times. still waiting for that one, A girl can dream though cant she?
>>739151683 Turns out when you simplify something to the bare minimum, any stance sounds retarded. >I'm a freak for wanting something So pedophiles, dogfuckers, and Nazis are fine? They just want something a little out of the ordinary.
>>739151953 40% of a group is still a huge issue and dysphoria is one of your mental illnesses that's caused by a brain that didn't grow right.
>>739151683 You heard this>>739147322 A lot of people fear what impressionable children can be talked into when a society accepts and condones this type of behavior. Also, again, all the activism is a waste of time that could go to something important.
>>739152478 THERE IT IS! omg i waited for hours to get this post! Thanks. You are probably so far in the closet you wont even admit it to yourself you want it up your ass. But we both know that the temptation is there. ;)
>>739152788 It must be coming from somewhere. My guess is always going to be society has told you that being gay is bad so you drove it into your mind to be the straightest one of them all so they would never find out about your true desires.
>>739153099 >>739153200 Typical faggot behavior. You're own need to justify disgusting actions leads you to project onto others and believe everyone is secretly gay, with the true cancer of the defense mechanism being that if anyone calls you out for it you'll just say they're gay too.
>>739149961 So you want to be able to flagrantly disregard cultural standards and still have everyone treat you nice?
Why the fuck don't I try and get a job ass naked and with a dick strapped to my head? After all, why would someone care about what I wear?
At the end of the day, you and you're kind are just advocates for a postmodern complete deconstruction of all traditional values. You can't understand or see the value in cultural constructs, norms, traditions, NOTHING, and you want to dispose of all that shit just so you can feel happier sinking deeply into a fucking fetish.
So yeah, you fucking disgust me, I think you're a loathsome piece of shit. You should be free to engage in your degeneracy all you want, but the sticking issue is that you want everyone else to change how they think so you can carry that shit into public.
Let me ask you a question, if all of society's standards and values are so fucking disposable when it comes to you feeling secure and happy, why the FUCK, in a million years, do you think that you have the right to impose your own standards on everyone else? You're a hypocrite.
>People that think you're a degenerate because they have traditional values? Bigoted pieces of shit, and they have no right at all to tell you how to live. >People that think you're a bigoted dumbfuck for not accepting wild sex fantasies and off the charts lunacy? Why, they must be totally nice people, and are totally justified morally because they're the underdog! xD
Your whole worldview is based around people who are minorities having innate virtue over people who are not minorities. That's your justification for running wild with your crazy shit and expecting you have some kind of moral ground to stand on telling other people what they should and should not accept when you're completely unwilling to extend the same latitude to everyone else.
You're a rotten spoiled fuck right to the core, and that's why people hate you. End of story.
So that's it then. Insecure, misinformed, under educated and ignorance is what drives this hate for the trans community. I'm glad i started this tread, it has brought me much closer to understanding the inner workings of cis people that don't understand jack shit. Have a nice day everyone, and thanks for those who put there hearts into it. (that means you the person who posted faggot x 100) By the way you have all entertained me for the night, Better than Brooklyn 99 and Rupaul's drag race i must say.
>>739138725 >Why all the hate for transgender people? My 2 cents. I don't care. If someone wants to be the opposite sex, fine, let them do it. I'm all for letting them take the hormones, play the stereotypical role, and eventually getting the surgery. But, if the transgender person wants to play the "I identify as.." game without putting any serious energy into the actual transformation, they are attention grabbing liars and deserve any hate they get. Tomboys and the ambiguous existed since the beginning of time, they put up with the teasing and confusion as all weirdos did since time began. THOSE square pegs to the round holes were strong and brave. The modern version, the people who scream and cry about people not instantly pampering to their act (it's mostly an act with this new wave of transgenders) and demanding protection, those weak fools I do neither respect nor like. I actually fought for sexual and gender equality (I'm old), the idiots that are allowed to do their game are an unfortunate side effect of all the GOOD that came from the fight. They offend me deeply. They are using the good produced to be wussy versions of bullies.
>>739138725 Just the ones that go out of their way to make themselves known and try to change everything to accommodate them. Other than that I can't beginning to care about your little LBGTGBBQ community
>>739152128 Be true to yourself and when the time is right maybe you will be able to express yourself. Stay strong sister. <3 Your absolutely right about these peoples opinions not mattering. . When it happens to someone in there family people seem to be much more understanding. I hope it will all work out for you.
>>739144378 This post gave me cancer. Comparing trans discrimination to racial discrimination is exactly the type of flawed argument that shows how your type wants to be victimized. Its bullshit.
Language is constantly being modified to become easier and more efficient, but now a demographic appears that want to muddy our language with an additional 100 pronouns that describe your perceived self image. Your group is self important and imposing on a religious level fuck off.
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