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How hot do steel beams have to be before they melt?

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How hot do steel beams have to be before they melt?
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>>739000505
The answer is bush
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>>739000505
does anybody ever take into consideration the fucking jumbo jet that slammed into them may have caused a little structural damage or is intentionally being as stupid as possible what the kids do here nowadays?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FzF1KySHmUA
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>>739000505
Not that hot.
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>>739001388
That doesn't explain why there was molten steel pouring out of a building
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>>739000505
9 11 INSIDE JOB!! BUSH THE JEWS AND THE ALIENS KNEW OF EVERYTHING
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>>739001265

they were rated to withstand a direct hit from a 707. They were hit by 767s, which are slightly heavier but also slower than a 707.

A 747 Jumbo jet is much bigger than either of those.
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>>739001265
that would make since if those damn jets slamed in-between the first 20 floors. No way one jet that hit the upper floors could take down a high-rise. also compare building 7 with that one building that caught fire in Europe recently. By B7 standard, that England building would have collapsed.
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>>739001611
quit shouting jackass
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>>739001476
Could of been molten aluminum, was that not considered
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>>739001265
funny thing is, the towers were designed to take such a hit from a plane of that class. yet their foundations collapsed the same time the top of the towers collapsed...you dont have to be a rocket scientist to understand something is not right
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>>739001265
compare the plane crash in the field which has virtually no debris with real plane crashes that has debris scattered everywhere.
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>>739001739
The vibrations from the massive impact loosened the building foundations, and wala, sudden implosion.
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>>739001727
Molten aluminum doesn't glow like that. Especially not in broad daylight
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>>739001739
Fake News
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>>739000505

Around 2500F before steel liquefies, however it varies depending on how much iron is in the steel.

And to answer the stupid fucking meme question, steel loses its structural integrity long before it reaches its melting point, so combine all the damage to the foundation caused by the jumbo jet slamming in to the building with the burning fuel destroying the integrity of the remaining supports, and then have the giant chunk of twisted steel and concrete that made the upper floors come crashing down when even a single floor collapsed and you have a chain reaction that would collapse the entire tower.

Bush may have done 9/11 but it was done with the fucking planes and nothing else.
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>>739001934
But why is there molten steel pouring out of the building?
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>>739001739
yeah, you'd think the huge mass of the lower 3/4 of the building would stop the falling top 1/4. The top section should have met some resistance on the way down and fallen off to the side, instead of the whole building just turning to powder in 5 seconds.
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>>739002026
that is how buildings cry
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I'm not using this as a meme and I don't think our government did 9/11. I just want to know why there was very clearly molten metal pouring out of a building.
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>>739001739
>the towers were designed to take such a hit from a plane of that class
And they did take the hit successfully, both towers did. It was the subsequent fire that did the fatal damage.
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>>739002404
the combined weight of all the floors above it squeezed the metal and melted it
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>>739000505
>How hot do steel beams have to be before they melt?

How do you know that the melted metal in that photo (which is a 'shop btw) is steel?
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>>739002053
goddamn man
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>>739000505
before they lose their load bearing capability?
only about 150F depending on how much weight it is bearing
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>>739000505
Are we still on this? Surrender the dream.
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>>739002767
this. just because there is a shitty picture of what appears to be molten steel doesn't mean it is real
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>>739002767
>>739003022
what else would it be? looks like burning metal, not wood or plastic
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This world is way past all of that.
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>>739001859

Pure aluminium in a laboratory doesn't...but this wasn't pure was it einstein? Might have been a few contaminants...
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>>739002026

It's aluminium/aluminum
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>>739003199
Aluminum retard
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>>739003199
aluminium from the planes dumbass...
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>>739003199
its shooped. probably buy one of youre dumb ass truther buddys
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It was a demolition
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Also if you are going to claim that this is proof of thermite or whatever, in order to bring the buildings down you would have had to see these waterfalls of molten steel all over the place. Also this is a shop.
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>>739000505
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>>739003356
>>739003384
>>739003466
>>739003526
>It's aluminum
>no it's aluminium
>no it's shooped
you guys need to get your story straight.
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>>739003577
why? 2 planes have hit, another's hit the pentagon. Another has crashed for the nice hero story. Job's a good'un!! Only thing the demolition achieves is that thousands more people are needed to execute the plan and cover it up...and the risks of getting caught increase a billion fold. Easy plan = recruit hijackers via proxies and give them a helping hand to not get picked up. Half a dozen people needed and even the hijackers don't know they're recruited by CIA.

Dumb truther plan? Thousands involved in the most complex conspiracy you could ever imagine...risking the overthrow of western civilization if they're caught...and for what?
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There were subsequent side way firing of jets coming out as each top floor was collapising. If you look at the real controlled demolition videos, you see the same effect. It was controlled demolition. You cant refute that fact as engineering experts mentioned it in their comments. The collapse was planned well in advance of the event.
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>>739003809
we do...how many version of events to truthers have?
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>>739001456

>Steel beam over an open fire
Vs.
>Steel beams that are literally spewing out molten metal

Not even close.
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>>739003958
>and for what?
War is extremely profitable for a select few. The conspiracy shit is dumb, but so is that question. Let's not pretend the US government hasn't lied to the public in order to wage war before.
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>>739001388
look i know this is a good video and all but the steel beams in the wtc would have been 100x thicker than that little rod, just saying
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>>739000505
>How hot do steel beams have to be before they melt?
1488 degrees Celsius
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>>739004029

Windows being blown out by the air being forced down through the building....if it was thermite there's no "bang". If it was conventional explosives there'd be det cord and probably unexploded charges everywhere. Plus the plane impact would have dislodged them or set them off anyway. Pick one..
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>>739000505
i think you mean how hot do they have to be before they can bend really easily and break.
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>>739001388
>>739001476
>>739001727
also wtc 11 also that tower that burned down in London last month, member that?
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>>739004190
But that's an I beam from a building. Those concreate slabs are those giant dividers you see on highways.
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>>739000505
dank memes cant melt these steel beams
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>>739004158
a select few...not the thousands needed. Very specific thousands...not like robbing the corner shop where any two random idiots can be roped in. You need thousands of very specific psychopaths who are in the right jobs...very high level jobs. And you can't tip off the non psychopaths as otherwise you get caught and strapped to a gurney...keep thinking, you'll get there in the end.
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>>739001631
heavier and slower = more damage retard
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In 2047 we will know the truth, and everyone involved is long deceased. Blah. It's over. Move on.
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>>739001739
Nope...look at video, collapse starts at the heat weakened beams and once all that mass is in motion, nothing's gonna stop it.
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>>739001846

...wala...Wala...WALA!!!
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>>739001631

> slower
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>>739004643
funny, thats exactly how demolition works..
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>>739004621
>slower projectiles do more damage
wow maybe if the plane had zero speed it would have done maximum damage
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>>739001934
Good answer, thank you for spending more time with that idiot than I would have.
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>>739004779
Nope...it isn't.
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>>739004604
>the conspiracy shit is dumb
>goes on to explain why the conspiracy shit is dumb
You're not the brightest are you lad?
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>>739004843
yup...it is.
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>>739004722
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>>739004779
>demolition exploits gravity
>everything that falls must be demolition
wew lad
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>>739004885
Some people need shit explaining to them...what's your point?
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>>739005051
Are you trolling or actually this retarded?
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>>739002252
Ever had the center of your paper bag fall through? Looks like the outside of the bag is still there holding stuff up? Didn't happen in 5 seconds, watch the tapes again
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how did wtc 11 collapse? wasn't hit by a plain. Fire?! that tower in London burnt all though the night and didn't collapse demolition style.
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>>739004722
it's quite a bit slower, but also 20% heavier
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>>739005140
dumb people need to have obvious shit explained to them? Are you retarded? Your criticism is that I explain to dumb people, why they're dumb?
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>>739001846
>wala
you dumb american
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>>739001265
Irrelevant to OP's question. Structural damage will not change the temperature steel melts. Steel did melt in the WTC. I am not saying what caused it, but that happened.
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>>739005291
Wow, so really that retarded. F.
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>>739005050
As a member of a demo crew from Pittsburg I can tell you that each tower that fell did not do so due to an airplane. And I might add that tower 7 was not touched by flame nor plane and still went and conveniently crumbled. This was all structure removal and could not have been done without planning around building schematics with regards to finding structural points to place demo charges. The integrity of a structure will never be compromised from the top but always from the bottom.
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if any of you dumb fucks where to read the 9/11 commission report cover to cover you would know its all complete bullshit, you would know your all being lied too. but you think you know
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>>739005362

It didn't....no melted steel. Aluminium.
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>>739005362
Structural damage will change the stress point though. Stressed metal exposed to heat is more brittle
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>>739005250

> cruise speed
> not speed at sea level

You do realize jet engines have small force multipliers, the turbojets/lowbypassturbofans on a 707 are only effective at cruise altitude at high speed

The 2 Turbo fans of a 767 are MUCH more effective at sea level than even the 4 turbojets of a 707.

1 767 engine makes as much thrust than all 4 707 low by pass turbofans or turbojets
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>>739005494
this guy fucking knows.
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>>739005535
wtc was a steel tower no aluminium.
try again.
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>>739005475
You said a select few would profit....I said that's irrelevant. Obviously a select few can profit from anything. My point was that "for what?" had to apply to the thousands of people necessary for THIS conspiracy. Your pointing out of how a select few could profit was not an answer to the point I made....it's clear that you're the dumb motherfucker.
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>>739005494
>As a member of a demo crew from Pittsburg
I'm assuming you weren't in new york that day. I'm also assuming you have never actually read the NIST report, nor have you done any actual scientific research on the matter. I'm also assuming you barely understand half the physics at play in this enormous disaster. For those reasons I will ignore everything you claim to "know", and laugh in your general direction. Feel free to prove me wrong.
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Ya ever watch Game of Thrones after watching Iron First, and end up weirded out seeing Danny Rand sucking cock with a british sccent? He is tge Iron Cock.
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>>739005505
Don't call other people "dumb fucks" when you don't know the difference between "your" and "you're".
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>>739000505
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>>739005606
well, the buildings withstood the impacts of the 767's. it was subsequent fire or pre-planned demolition that took them down.
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>>739005813
>I really am this retarded!
I know boy. It's ok.
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>>739005744
What are planes made of you dense motherfucker?
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>>739006062
Paper
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>>739005744

>What are planes made of...
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>>739005604
Close, it lowers the tensile strength. A large number of external colums were sheared off when the planes hit, transferring loads to the remaining columns. The tensile limit of the remaining columns lowered as they heated and the steel softened, until they could no longer carry the loads they were under, and they failed in a cascade, with a few going first and adding loads to other members which rapidly failed.
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>>739006062
metal
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>>739000505
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8W3y3Qh8R1s

you guys wanna see some crazy shit??
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>>739005744
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>>739006006

Its good engineering and engineering designed them to fall straight down and that's what they did.

Conspiracy theorists are worse than niggers, spics and kikes.
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>>739006163
Yup. To bad people failed to pay attention in high school chem and physics
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>>739006030
Not for your psychiatrist, who's probably seriously overworked.
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>>739001265
>does anybody ever take into consideration the fucking jumbo jet that slammed into them
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they need to be hot as islam
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>not one post about the dancing jews that were there to 'document' the event'

lel
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>>739002252
Wow it sure does take a long time to clean up powder... You fucking idiot.
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>>739006226
>>739006226
>>739006226
>>739006226
line up for you red pill boys
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>>739006192
What kind of metal....?
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>>739000505

who knows?

>A measure of abnormal long put volume was also examined and seen to be at abnormally high levels in the days leading up to the attacks. Consequently, the paper concludes that there is evidence of unusual option market activity in the days leading up to September 11 that is consistent with investors trading on advance knowledge of the attacks.[64] —Allen M. Poteshman, The Journal of Business
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>>739006342
Death
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>>739006342
a melty one
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>>739006264
I forgot to add that steel is a ductile metal that softens and starts to lose strength, at much lower temperature than it actually melts.
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>>739006342
jewish
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>>739006234
They were only ever going to fall downward like that, but it wasn't due to intention. That was just the nature of their design.
The WTC towers were built unlike almost any other large building with their center core design and flush sides. Look at other skyscrapers like the Empire State Building, Sears Tower, or pretty much any other and you can see there's layers to them. They are not the same width from top to bottom and inside there is a skeletal structure of steel.
The WTC didn't have that. It has a hardened core with the elevators and staircases and then the exterior columns. Because of that when the floors collapsed they pancaked and there was no point where thy could have stopped.
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>>739006463
To much edumaction for this bread
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>>739006226
seriously, watch this with an open mine then come back and tell me what you think.
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>>739002053
FUCK THIS PLACE DUDE! I WANT TO FUCKING NUKE THEM
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>>739005897
I'm an authority on demolition, your assumptions are just assumptions. I can say that in my tenure in this position did not teach me everything I need to know about this subject but it helps that I have degrees in civil engineering and architecture in addition to other subjects.
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>>739000505
1370C
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>>739006539
Open mine...like Sadha Grey's ass?
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>>739004779
Some principles are the same, cause is different though. In a demolition, you might blow out the steel columns with charges...on the other hand, a hot kerosene fire (that's what jet fuel is) could just heat up the beams until they started to get pretty bendable. Ever notice how beams in houses are made of wood? It's because wood doesn't get all bendy when it's hot...firemen can tell how weakened a wood beam is by looking at how much is left....not so much with a hot metal beam. Check it out for yourself.
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Steel starts to melt anywhere from 2800 to 3200 degrees F.
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>>739006234
>>739006492
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>>739006463
then why have few buildings totally collapsed as a result of fire?

and don't say 'muh jet fuel', that all burned off in a fiery explosion in the first few seconds/minutes
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>>739006678
Again that is without tensile stress...
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>>739006226
>something comes out at the other end
>must be the nose of the plane!
>mind blown guise amirite?
What a fucking retard.
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>>739006537
Ha! Also further forgot to add that there is a real 9/11 conspiracy but it doesn't involve superthermite. The real 9/11 conspiracy is that everyone in Washington knew Saudi Arabia was culpable in the attack, but we couldn't say anything because we need SA and the gulf states to keep selling oil in US Dollars. So we pretended Saddam Hussein was responsible.
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>>739006660
But this heat would have to reach ground floor which did not happen until top floor crumbled on top of it.
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>>739005744
They WTC had an aluminum cladding. That's what made the exterior shiny looking.

>>739006463
In my classes I was told the number to be aware of was 1,000 degrees F. That's the point where unprotected steel being heated will start to sag and lose its structural integrity. Melting point doesn't matter from an engineering or firefighting standpoint.
That 1,000 degrees was easily attainable in a fire with that much air, stuff to burn, and that was not having any water applied to it. It was only a matter of time until it failed.
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>>739004348
Did that tower actually fall? Does anybody have full footage of the burning?
Somebody in discord mentioned it but i never saw footage or read about it.
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>>739006696
Cause nothing in a building is flameable...they're all made of fure proof nerf materail
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It were dem planes.

Damn planes. Impect so hard they did do create thermite residue.
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>>739006795
its still there its just a skeleton.
a big old fucking tombstone.
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>>739006786
Thats not conspiracy so much as fact...kind of like Clinton opting not to whack Bin Ladin
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>>739006603
>authority on demolition
kek, so not a physics major then, or anybody I should take seriously? Got it, thanks for admitting. Feel free to prove yourself through science, I'm sure NIST would love your input. Oh no wait, NIST is part of the illuminati right? Fucking idiot.
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>>739006842
so why haven't these buildings that burn for 12 solid hours collapse? E,g Grenfell Tower, The Address Bldg Dubai, etc. They were full of flammables too. Except the Twin Towers collapsed after just 40 minutes of fire.
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>>739007030
Dont disparage idiots by lumping this numb fuck in with them
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>>739006696
Because the buildings suffered heavy damage prior to the fires even starting just from the plane's impact. Other large buildings that have burned had their structures intact and were able to cope with the fires.
While it's true the jet fuel burned off very quickly (most exploded outside of the building) those quick fires ignited the building's contents and with the standpipes/sprinklers knocked out the fires were able to spread freely.
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>>739006942
Bullshit. Had insurance in 1996 when the bombs went off in the basement car park. Paid out.
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>>739001727

The word "could've" is a contraction for "could have".

Yes, "could of" sounds like "could've" but it is bad grammar, which was considered.

Why don't you consider going back to school until you learn how to communicate properly?
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>>739006678
>>739006736
And it starts to soften a long time before 2800 degrees.
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>>739007042
The stress if fucking moving airplane impacting the towers you short bus windowlicker
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>>739007030
15 years, compared to you I'm Albert fucking Einstein on the subject. You want to come at me? Come do the job, we,will see how much you know. Shit I'm a foreman, ill fire you in a second you pleb.
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>>739007042
Did those towers also have an airplane worth of jetfuel to burn? And did they also withstand the impact of a passenger jet before said fire? Or were those situations not comparable at all to what happened at the wtc?
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>>739000505
Steel beams lose almost all structural rigidity at around 500*C. Wooden beams are actually more fire proof in many scenarios.
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>>739006749
did you miss everything else or something? im showing you so you can break though the think film of lies, to show you the 9/11 attacks though a difront perspective. dosnt mean im right or that the video is right. but its really weird.
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>>739000505
This answers your question perfectly

https://youtu.be/FzF1KySHmUA
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>>739007155
It's not bad grammar, it's just totally the wrong word. "We was annoyed" is bad grammar. "could of" is just fucking retarded.
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>>739004132
You know there's a ton of low grade metal in buildings too right? the frame that holds up the little squares of ceiling tiles is shitty cheap metal, the air ducts and electrical wiring and tubings are all made of metal that I am certain isn't high grade steel. I think it would be weird if some molten metal didn't pour out of a gaping flaming hole in a building to be honest.
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>>739007330
Ru Paul is weird, the video is a special brand of stupid
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>>739007143

Yeah! Total rubbish! He was apparently paid out in '96, so he graciously refused any future payouts from claims (just like any other jew would)!
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>>739000505
Aproxameynylylyly 1,300,[email protected] degrees. I hope this answers your question.
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https://youtu.be/8W3y3Qh8R1s
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>>739007218
>You want to come at me?
Come at you? What are you even on about mate? I'm just calling you out on your obviously uneducated bullshit theories. Stop acting like a child.
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>>739007042
Different design of building. Grenfell tower solid reinforced concrete and not a central steel core with a plane smashed through it.
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>>739001846
>WALA
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1. 9/11 was the work of none other than Bill Cosby.
2. Only niggers steal beams
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Bunch of morons!

Of course the jet fuel weakened the steel beams, and caused them to bend...it's blatantly obvious due to the way the building wilted, then flopped over into the ground!

Sheesh.
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>>739007421
for damage...not the whole fucking complex being levelled or written off
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>>739007330
>did you not keep watching after such a moronic opening?
No, no I did not. With an opening like that you know every word in the rest is pure drivel. An open mind does not mean believe everything some moron on youtube says.
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>>739006942
Did you know? Silverstein's rent was $100+ million a year to the Port Authority, and he was responsible for paying for any damage repairs or reconstruction that would be needed during his time as the leaseholder.
Those rent payments didn't stop because of 9/11. He had to keep paying them, as well as paying for demolition of the other damaged buildings of the complex, and paying for the new complex to be built.
Very quickly those numbers would eat up that 4.5 billion.
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god if only people knew physics.

then USA wouldn't have fought wars for ""another country"".
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>>739007402
or your just ignorant.
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>>739007484
You can't call bullshit if you never studird the subject or did the job. I'm telling you out of my experience in the field that these Fuckers are designed to withstand almost anything and it takes planned structural demolition to destroy them in the fashion they went down. Its textbook everyday shit to me. So when I tell you I am an authority on the subject open your ears and cram your partially informed notions.
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>>739006789
No, once one of the floors starts to collapse, you've now got perhaps 10-20 floors above that moving down too. They're gonna keep going even if the floor below is still sound, because 10-20 floors falling 10 feet can pick up quite a bit of momentum.
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>>739007626
its a 5 minute fucking video, you got ADD or something?
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>>739007337
government spook trying to look all down to earth.

well congratulations the steel beams where way thicker then that and they MELTED to fucking liquid
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>>739007790
truth
scary how brainwashed people are by the main stream narrative
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>>739001456
OP debunked. Now will you stop with your retarded 911 conspiracies?
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>>739007790
>Calls bullshit on something he never studied
>You can't call bullshit if you never studird the subject
gg dimwit
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>>739007880
No I just have very little patience for such extreme stupidity.
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>>739007813
wouldn't that momentum be absorbed/reduced by the rest of the building as the top part falls? The top part falling is hitting resistance with each floor. Perhaps a few floors would buckle sequentially, but at some point the momentum would slow...right?
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>>739007909
You mean science? Yeah scary bro. If only they would listen to Alex Jones instead...
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>>739007893
No. For the 20th time in this thread, the molten liquid metal was aluminium from the big fucking planes that were embedded in the buildings. Note there's no melting from building 7.
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>>739007396
what is thremite.
can someone link this fool a pick of the cut in half steel beam in the wreckage?
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>>739007042
The twin towers were an innovative, lightweight design where loads were carried by external columns and an internal bundle of columns supporting the core/elevator shaft. When the planes hit, one of the four exterior walls was sheared off completely, the opposite wall was partially blown out, and presumably a lot of the center columns were sheared off as well. So something like 60% of the columns were carrying 100% of the load, after being softened by fires started by a couple thousand gallons of aviation fuel and sustained by floors of burning office furniture, carpets, etc, they had all they could take and let go.
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>>739006226
He thinks planes are made to be lighter than air.
He can't be taken seriously
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>>739005535
Look it up. Steel melted. Plenty of photos and video on the subject. Also even the sites trying to debunk the conspiracy theories admit there was plenty of molten steel under the rubble. I don't know what happened, but at this point do you still believe everything you are told?
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my uncle worked a contractor for the CIA and he showed me a work email that said it was all set up , he's not allowed to post it publicly though
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>>739004244
Oh I'm sorry mister engineer. Didn't realize you were qualified to determine that.
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>>739008043
Dynamic loads. The floors were secured with only a few bolts connecting them to the exterior columns and center core.
Once one floor fell, it would land on the one below, cause a quick amount of stress, break those bolt connections, release that floor, and so on. Because every floor was built the same way and had the same dimensions, there was no point for it to really stop.
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>>739008007
you didnt watch it, how could you possibly know??
see, you dont know and your afraid of the truth, so you move on like a good sheepeople and call it "stupid"

ignorant.
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>>739004804
This
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>>739008373
I don't have to read every page of the bible to know it's a load of horseshit either. Funny how that works.
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>>739008043
No, because with each floor that collapses, you've got one more floor's rubble (so the mass of falling debris is growing with each floor) and that (now bigger mass) has ANOTHER 10 feet to pick up speed again before floor 'n-2'..then 'n-3'... etc.
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>>739008496
i dont need to build a car to know it donst work. ignorant.
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>>739008500
but the steel core and outside frame were still fully intact below the impact point. wouldn't they have stopped.slowed down the falling section?
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>>739008500
But by that argument wouldn't the collapse of the building look different than it did? If the floors collided and caused the next floor to fall, wouldn't there be noticable 'bumps' as it falls?
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>>739008606
lol what is your tiny brain even trying to convey?
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>>739008155
The ones cut by torches by the cleanup and redcue crew?
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>>739008155
Thermite is just red iron oxide and coarse aluminum powder. Conspiracy hacks swabbed a ferrous metal beam and got some oxide, found a chunk of aluminum, and proclaimed "Thermite!"
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>>739008668
Because there's nothing holding them taught and upright. Buildings are systems that need to be intact to work properly.
without the floors holding everything together then the exterior columns and core were just sitting in the wind. With the collapse of the North Tower, you can see for a few seconds a bit of the core standing upright before it too collapses.
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>>739008496
>>739008606

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8W3y3Qh8R1s

just watch it cunt, theres heaps of interesting videos that you get shown, might make you rethink some 9/11 shit.
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i think it was inside job, just to attack afghanistan and steal their goods.
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>>739008496
>I don't need to _____ to jump to assumptions.
Your argument is retarded and makes you sound like an arrogant asshole.
If it's so stupid, watch it and list off reasons why it is. That's what smart people do.
Ignoring opposing views will just make you dumb.
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>>739000505
Only your flaming faggotry can get that hot.
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>>739008762
i only did what you did lul, also throwing insults only show how simple minded you truly are, you getting triggered or something??
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>>739008869
It sure makes them soun stupid when you say it that way. Good thing they have multiple reasons and arguments supported by logic.
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>>739008924
>>739008985
This. thank you sir
>>739009106
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>>739000505
>How hot do steel beams have to be before they melt?
How do you know this is steel and not another metal? Also have a picture of an burned Audi car that got torched at the G20 protests this year. What, you ask, where is all the metal from the car? It got an aluminium frame, you know the stuff planes are made of. The aluminium melted and started burning.
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>>739008985
>list off reasons why it is
I already did that. Also, it's not an assumption, it's a conclusion. Learn the difference moron.

>>739009106
>triggered
I rest my case.
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>>739008869
what if it was actually termites? they have been known to eat houses, what if termites evolved to eat steel instead of wood?
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>>739008924
>No really, after the drivel some super eye opening shit is revealed!
This is why people laugh at conspiracy nutters.
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>>739008668
Didn't you also read this? >>739008274

The force of the rubble falling from above is enough to break the structure, even if it wasn't damaged. This isn't people walking on the floor, it's like 10 stories worth of building that's been falling for about 10' (the distance between floors). Now repeat this operation for the next 60 floors, until all the rubble is in the basement.
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>>739008718
How do you know there wasn't bumps as the floors collapsed? You can only see the skin of the building from the outside.
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>>739009237
That's like saying a scientist looks at a tiny bit of the results of an experiment and makes a 'conclusion.' You can call it what you like, but it's an incorrect/uninformed conclusion nonetheless.
I'm not trying to change your opinion. Acting like an asshole can only hurt yourself.
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>>739009257
Kek
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>>739006295

Building was gutted from above by falling steal beams and flaming debris. Common sense you silly faggot.
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>>739009339
Did you watch it or are you just laughing at someone because of assumptions about a video you didn't watch?
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>>739000505
Melt into slag like was found in the wreckage? Hotter than petrol can feasibly get entire sections of a skyscraper. Thermite charges on the other hand are designed to cut and melt steel and produce puddles of molten slag like was found in the remains of wtc1 and 2, and 7, which no plane ever hit but fell in anyway.
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>>739001727
>Could of been molten aluminum, was that not considered
because 100 story skyscrapers are made out structural aluminium
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>>739002678

Shut up you fucking nigger lover.
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>>739009546
>experiment
lolwat? We're talking about a youtube video you braindead idiot. It's a source, and as anyone can tell after 1 minute, a very non credible one. You're so goddamn stupid that you can't even follow simple logic, what the actual fuck?
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At around a jewillion degrees
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>>739002053
You can pretty much mess with everything but just don't do it with children...
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>>739009510
Look, I'm not a structural engineer, I'm just making logical assumptions based on what some uninformed idiot (me) knows about physics.
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>>739009655
A free fall. lol
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>>739009546
leave the ignorant man alone hes obviously in the right and know everything there is to know about the topic,
>>739009824
im so sorry i triggered you into this augment, my bad, here have another blue pill and go back to sleep.
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>>739009707
You mean there is no chance of finding aluminium in a skyscraper that just has been hit by multiple tons of aluminium in form of an airplane? Did goblins stole the aluminium right after the crash?
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>>739009700
I watched the first minute or so, after which I concluded that this source is utterly useless and hilariously misinformed. Clearly a video not worth watching till the end.
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