I bet 1800€ in cash /b/ can't solve the Voynich Manus

That picture looks like the inside of a anus diagram

>>736640875
might be a some kind of anatomical mataphor

>>736640786
wait a sec OP I'm on it!

>>736640970
How to put a tiny lady in your anus?

>>736641222
Looks like lungs, or fairy tales, or instructional guide for piping water in ancient civilizations (baths, drinkable water, etc)

>>736641363
nah

>>736640786
I would prefer not to.

>>736641153
bumping for the lulz

So what? Metaphorical expression on women giving life, life symbolized by water?

Or is an old roleplay/porno fantasy?

>Well known historical unsolved mystery.
HEY, I bet sum fucktards on /b/ can do it !!

fuck you faggot
>is summer vacation over yet?

>>736641558
what language is this?

>>736641665
salty poorfag detected

>>736641702
That is the problem. Nobody knows

>>736641829
sweet middlehetero

>>736641861
well that can't be to hard then. isn't this just simply cryptography?

Bumping

It's an interesting piece of literature. What the hell was the author on?

>>736642001
well go back to your bronies and furryporn then newfag. /b/ is specialised in solving unknown mysteries

>>736642186
Yeah, considering how many bodies /b/tards have found.

mhh, I might have something here ...

What time period? Nation?

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>>736640786
I solved it. The author was as high as a motherfucker. Now give me my fucking money shithead!

>>736642273
that looks like middle east architecture

https://youtu.be/1hPblT-H53o?t=51

>>736642014
yeah we just have to figure out which original language they encrypted

Maybe they were describing their perspective on life via a cryptological method out of paranoia?

>>736641558
might be some kind of code

>>736642443
1404, Northern Italy

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might be some kind of calendar

>>736642908
so they propably used latin as a starting point

>>736642908
So, influenced by ancient Latin, phonecian?

>>736641558
They think changing there blood changes them

>>736643023
Codebreakers have been down that road before, didn't work out IIRC

>>736643023
who the fuck knows latin

>>736643023
Likely. Several words are in Latin script.

>>736643098
Including using reflection/mirror Esq device? Such as, including, and/or/but: writing upside down, backwards, and shortening words (like l8r, brb) type shit whilst using cryptology?

>>736643045
Several words were also written in High German, as well as Latin.

>>736643098
yeah, but maybe they were just dumb or not even trying that hard

>>736643243
yeah also they could have changed the alphabet in they way that:
a --> z
b --> a
a --> b

I hate to suggest his based on the book's origin, but could the script be influenced by Cyrillic? Or some medieval form of shorthand?

Is there any similarities between pages with holes on certain letters? A piece of paper with holes punched out on letters to devise a "each letter represents a part of a sentence?

Can the German and Latin be split up, decoded individually to make a base word for translation?

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zodiacs / astronomy anyone?

>>736643432
No clue, but those few words are readable.

>>736643432
yeah, propably

>>736643062
Then killed off the hybreed plants for there religon it was stupid cause they were dumb people of thier time

>>736643400
True, referencing numbers corresponding to each language written (somewhat akin to using 1-26 for English, 26-1 for other language, flipping letters around, then repeat with other language, and possibly scramble on number code)

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isn't that one of those harry potter plants?

>>736643485
Seems likely it can be zodiac/astronomy turned into mythology

>>736643677
I think it's just common roots.

Who gives a fuck? You think some random-ass book with shitty doodles from the 1400's is going to contain anything useful to us? This is a waste of time.

>>736643677
Grafted plants? Some don't match any known species today.

>>736643750
Theee is one section of the book that concerns astronomy and astrology alone

>>736643619
this guy gets it. we just have to figure out what symbol is a references to which latin letter or arabic number

>>736643797
LSD?

>>736643794
No, but we might as well try. Attempts to decode his book date back to the 19th century, at least.

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>>736643916
No, this is LSD.

>>736640786
It's a hoax written to con wealthy people out of money. There are almost NO errors in the hand written book. Copying an imaginary alphabet and reusing character strings to approximate language is fucking easy to do when you legit cannot make a mistake because it doesn't make sense anyway. Writing a real language in a similar fashion is easy to make a mistake in. How often do you hit backspace? I've hit it at least three times just writing this out.

Gib money now pls.

>>736643797
This is similar to what I was thinking if it's cryptological, ie: red circles are holes on a separate page, then placed upon the page, slid around to make words (prisoners use this method for decoding)
>>736643861
>>736643867
I'm the same person, meow but thanks
And I'm not familiar with Latin/greek/arabic/german letters and numbers
Meow

I've tried it, took some coffee and went on the internet instead. There are some pages missing from what I've seen tho

>>736643797
yeah it's obviously drug or herbology related if you ask me

>>736643916
Possibly, from ergotism. However, ergot poisoning is pretty incapacitating. I doubt the author could have written it in one sitting.

>>736640786
>>736643794
well there are people willing to pay WAY MORE than OP for that kind of information

It sounds like an ancient encyclopedia, each section being referenced to that idea, written in old cryptology
Meow

>>736641222
Checked

>>736644152
Solving something is for the understanding, not the monetary value meowwwww

>>736644043
Latin script is used in most languages, including English and German. I'm typing in it right now.

>>736644043
Arabic numbers are the numbers we use every day: 0, 1, 2, 3, ... etc.

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i feel like the answer lies somwhere inside this book

>>736641900
Could this be some nerve thingy or blood? I know nothing

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'the fuck is going on here?

>>736644220
Latin, Arabic, and arabic-jeudism is fundamental for Mediterranean written languages (due to trade routes)
Keep in mind, language evolves, so try german and italian as well
>>736644298
Ah okay, sorry I'm drunk meow, ty

>>736644306
I doubt somebody wrote in in one trip. It's about 250 pages long.

>>736644353
oh shit, yeah maybe neurons

>>736644393
Digestion?

>>736644423
Is it available in off? Curious to skim through it meow

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>>736640786
Can't solve something that is as gay and fake as you are, OP

>>736644495
Ugh not off, dumb auto correct, meant pdf meow

>>736644397
It's alright. we just can't read the rest of it.

gonna take some acid, look at the pictures and tell you guys afterwards brb

>>736644470
Looks like it to me. Anybody else agree?

>>736644443
Woah
Might have to look into it again

>>736644541
Hmmm, might be pictorial? Certain inverted/convoluted words, purposely distorted to represent a small picture
Such as ancient emoticons
Meow

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maybe it's just weird porn?

>>736644603
It could also be the intestines

>>736644693
Are those sperm cells or something?
Just, weird

>>736644663
Hmm. My suggestion is a type of cypher. Likely alphabetical or numeric shifting to an invented script. We can decode it all when we find out which letters are which.

>>736644586
cool see you in 12hours then. thanks for nothing

>>736642186
Its just gibberish and pictures.

Anybody got some more pics? I'm just gonna go guess

>>736644726
Stomach and intestines

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>>736643794

This

But lets not forget we've got a whole bunch of retards dedicating their whole lives to a 2000 (or so (who gives a fuck)) pile of bundled fables

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>>736644693
i'll fap to this now.
if it works i get they cash!

>>736644832
Sounds about right, alphabetic and numeric corresponding to cryptology, or at the very least 2 languages converging

Have a pdf of the book?
Meow

>>736644924
Do ya have the next page?

>>736640786
what if it was just like the 4chan of its day and it was all done to fuck with people from the future and it doesn't really mean anything.

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I think I may have solved part of it

pic related

>>736644988
Ya can find it on a site

>>736645060
Ty meow

>>736645052
Kek

>>736645102
No problemo, good luck

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>>736644997
well, yeah ...

put bitcheches in pond, estradiol goes downstream to the weedz. wait until the new moon. profit.

http://stephenbax.net/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/Voynich-a-provisional-partial-decoding-BAX.pdf

>>736645132
I'd guess some stars and shit in the sky, galaxy or something, but it seems like the digestion stops there. Do ya have page 74?

>>736642924
probably, you've got a sun and moon map.

one sun for the winter months, 2 suns for the summer months.

moon is obviously cycles of half and full.

>>736645190
Ohhh nice meow

>>736645038
fuck you might be right. maybe those are some kind of ancient memes!

>>736642273
Or a representation of the 9 dimensions

>>736642671

I have a question
Why are all the people in the book I've seen so far naked and female

>>736645251
there you go

>>736645190
Does this take into consider cryptology? Or language outside if Europe (if the person traveled, wrote their experiences)

>>736645422
Eh
What

>>736645416
>witches?

>>736645416
I was wondering the same, could be psychological or metaphorical

>>736645466
Mhm

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>>736645458
uh, sorry mate

>>736644985
Maybe the liver and shit?
Fuckman I dunno fap

>>736645416
The author liked naked women, and considered eye candy essential for getting his point across.

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do these flowers even exist?
>>736643677

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>>736645372
Maybe, I found this old map from jerusalem

>>736645563
It's okay
Besides that, I know nothing about plants, but are those red lines perhaps those things that have water in them?
My English is failing me today

>>736645416
i think he did it for clickbait reasons

>>736645687
Very few plants in the text have been identified.

Why don't we just gather a bunch of autists, it works in the movies

>>736645687
Maybe a special made flower? Top looks like a pineapple to me
Perhaps a tree or shit?

>>736645687
All the plants exist, it's an old encyclopedia in my opinion
>>736645697
Interesting, was this around the same time period?
>>736645737
I could see an ancient, visual or attempt at plants acting like human nervous systems

There's more than just plants, from what I've seen
Meow

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wtf is this shit why isn't the author just writing like a sane person?

>>736645798
Isn't that what we're doing now?

>>736640786
PEOLPE NEED TO READ PDF IN OP

it basically covers everything weve said in this thread...

>>736640786
it obvious
they are harvesting ovaries from females and have discovered a process and sort out how to get a specific gene by using various combinations of breeding mixes

>>736645892
I'd guess it'd be something in the body, like how cells and shit work

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>>736642611

>>736645687
some type of ficus?

>>736645860
It's been a couple of months since I've seen the book, do ya perhaps know a bit what is where in the book?

>>736640786
it might have been trolls from thy oldern times

>>736645697
that is just a T.O. map you bloody noob

It's already decrypted. It's hebrew with some letters changed.

>>736645860
Actually was a map from just of Jerusalem, with the cities of Gethsemane, Jericho, Bethany, and Hebron by Robert le Moine, manuscript C 691, in the 13th century

>>736646030
A... a page without naked women.

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>>736645416
i have found a man. and guess what he is properly dressed

Ernest Haeckel, descriptive images of sea creatures
>>736646082
Sorry, just seeing book today, don't have full off
>>736646127
Proof? Doesn't make it less fun to discuss btw
>>736646160
Huh, interesting, any more similar images?

Meow

>>736646127
source?

>>736646235
He is protecting his virginity with a crossbow.

>>736642611
Prolly this. Just the ramblings of a late medieval hippie. Notice the accentuations on the "flowers". This is no ordinary hemp plant to make rope, it's the green that the author is interested in.

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>>736645563

In that page the weirdness of the language of this book is clear. In what language would you need to repeat same words like that?

>>736646235
Why is there an extra couple of women on the outer circle

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resemblance?

>>736646441
What book? Reminds me of my Ernest Haeckel book
Meow

>>736646441
The bro had a microscope?

>>736646358
what if each word is actually a letter or number on it's own?

>>736646358
In Dutch ya sometimes have that, but most of the times those are trick questions or poems

>>736646358
Could be particle/descriptor words. Meaningless on their own, but helping to make sense of the proper words.

>>736646513
I'm dumb, this is Haeckel lmao
>>736646272
Also meant full pdf not off
Meow

>>736646513
>>736646441
yes this is heackel

>>736646272
From what I've read there are 3 main subjects.

Heckel Funch knows

>>736646538
It's probably in the vernacular- medieval Italian, just coded into a cipher.

>>736646235
prolly the guy who paid for the lot. Manuscripts were usually commissioned. Some noble who requested a biology book "with lots of naked women in it" is my guess. Bet there's medieval and renaissance sperm on those pages too.

>>736646611
Astrology/zodiac, mythology, and botinay? Maybe politics?
Meow

it is just a compilation of strange explanations for natural phenomenon that people failed to understand in the same way people didn't believe cotton came from just a plant and came up with the vegetable lamb of tartary or however the fuck it is spelt

>>736640786
its been solved its a very old "ancient knowledge book"

these used to me made and sold for quick cash worlds oldest hoax

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what the fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuug

>>736645167
>>736646057
figs reduce estrogen

>>736646708
Yeah, but we still can't read it.

>>736646708
sooo, why invent a language then?

>>736646707
First part is definitely plants
Second seems to me like biology, but with some microscopes sometimes maybe?
Third is zodiac or astrology
The book doesn't have a real end btw

>>736646767
The working of the blood system/heart?

Shit boi dis easy.

>>736646686
I don't know Italian, so ye

>>736646834
Too evolve language? Based on surrounding languages or ancient languages?
>>736646842
Interesting, does sound like a manuscript or encyclopedia to me
Meow

>>736646842
Maybe it does. We're still missing about 30 pages.

Just read the wiki retards. Where's my money OP.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voynich_manuscript

>>736646941
Nerve system shit probably, or just nerves, I dunno

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>>736640786
Seminarian teenage monk's practice book.
Letter and images but no actual words.

He was just trying to learn calligraphy and art to be able to produce "illuminated" books.

Later the father superior taught him other useful skills including "Fire and Ice" an amazing oral sex technique.

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I'm not OP, but I'll put $45,000 in BTC that /b/ can't solve this.

>inb4 fake fag

>>736646919
I don't either, that's just my best guess.

>>736646956
I think it's like an encyclopedia, but just really vague and some fantasy

>>736641900
looks like opium if you ask me

>>736646962
Welp, we'll see

>>736640786
>https://www.isi.edu/natural-language/people/voynich.pdf

And on this, the shittiest of all of the days in history, OP reached the ultimate level of faggotry. It was so intense that all cities within a 400 mile radius were bulldozed by a wave of intense awfulness, and all of their inhabitants were violated in every way known to man, and 57 ways previously unknown.

>>736647103
It could also be just like a mix
I've been mixing languages, and sometimes it turns out really weird

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this dazzles me

>>736644858
the original 4Chan

>>736647044
fake money for a fake manuscript

>>736647277
Roots of plants to make medicine or some weird shit
Last one could be a very special plant with healing powers or weird side effect

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its a colouring book for medieval stoners

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It's OG trolling, probably for Royalty to own just for lulz

>>736647181
Thanks, but can anybody on this board actually find out something new about it?

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>>736640786
It's an early Renaissance manuscript about cosmology, herbalism, biology, astronomy and pharma. You need a Cardan grille to read it, that's why no one ever managed to decipher the text.

>>736647243
I'm not a linguist, but that's a suggestion.

>>736647277
Or the things beside it are how the pipes or cells are

>>736647467
exactly what i was thinking

>>736646710
>Implying ink, parchment and a scribble were cheap in 1400

Mass production of books doesn't begin until the invention of the press, and what did they do? Mass print the bible. Lel.

>>736647516
Just searched for a map of EU ~1400 around the top of italy there's a mess

>>736647442

Page numbers are in plain arabic numerals?

>>736647569
One guy posted that a card an grille is necessary to read it. Maybe if we could figure out which letters are the real ones, and some look real. We could decipher it.

maybe only sites with magical numbers like 7, 13 or 666 make sense

>>736647697
Edit: Cardan grille

>>736647724
How plants work?
Galaxy?
Fucking snowflakes?
Cells?
Idunno

>>736647510
It's just shit dude
A computer would've been able to decipher at least some of the context by now if that were the case.

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umm, guys do you see the dragon too?

>>736647776
I'd suggest you'd look at >>736647277
? Maybe you can use the names of whatever roots those are

>>736647851
yeah computers are SO SMART

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If you want to hear my prediction, then here it goes:

Some latin-fag was relaxing n shit, then suddenly they accidentally ate some Ergot fungus on some greens-related food and began to trip balls, since Ergot has a similar composition to LSD

Then, while he high, he found a book and began writing in it a bunch of undecipherable chicken scratch in latin, which would explain why some of it is in latin; the rest is bullshit noone can read.

He then drawn pictures (obviously) not knowing that they were unexplainable, then he fell asleep and died, and the book remained there until now.

>>736643990
Good idea maby the book is all about hydroponics and the woman in these pageis >>736641558
>>736641222
are just representative of belladonna witch I think translates to beautiful woman also they thorough fat woman were hot

>>736647776
what's a "cardan grille" some kind of french supper?

>>736647856
The dragon is... licking the plant...? What.. eating?

>>736647856
Looks like Kanga from Winnie the Pooh.

>>736647970
>>736647510

>>736647906
not bad. maybe

>>736647851
How? We still haven't developed anything to decipher these stupid captcha tests that prove we're not bots

>>736647510

Are the lines of manuscripts text streight enough for that to work?

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Just some pre-internet mombo jombo that a dumb rich guy commissioned at an even dumber stoner/shaman scribble. This was early renaissance you know. That said there will always be retards.

>>736648033
oh, i see

>>736644306
Weed isn't hallucinogenic thc is a muscle relaxent

>>736647890
I don't recognize them. The plants are too poorly detailed. Medieval artists were shit.

>>736641365

Looks like SMB warp zone

>>736646767
This whole book looks like avant-garde bathroom concepts

>>736640786
There is no solving this shit. It was just a crazy imaginative book written by someone years ago in the same way someone might have a crazy-ass sketchbook now. It was either done as a hoax at the time, or just as a folly, or flight of fancy, whatever you want to call it. There is no sense to be made.

>>736647649
Implying you couldn't pawn it off to some rich fuck with his own library? You kno, basically the only class of people that could read?

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maybe it's a book written by witches so no one would understand and burn them?

>>736647851
if it's shit what was it retouched afterwards? Granted books were valuable just for being books, but I'm sure it's functional. I don't see why someone who knows calligraphy would just write a book full with gibberish. Thinking it may have been some pagan/heathen knowledge going on here. That or it's erotic literature disguised as an "encyclopaedia".

The author was a stoner tho, I think we all can agree on that.

>>736648114
Last on the first line could be a carrot
Second line and the one before the last reminds me of an onion, or another plant I've worked with (tulip/idontknowthename) and the special one a Venus fly trapper leaf?

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>>736647851
Computer aren't autonomous yet anon. I wish. There was a software engineer in early 2000 who wrote a program with similar results, so that might be an indication. That said I don't understand why they haven't just digitalised all the letters and released it to the internet for the neets to analyse.

>>736648402
Maybe

>>736648168

It's still quite elaborate for a simple hoax.

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more circles

>>736640786
It's the equivalent of /b/ writing a letter.

Next question.

>>736648402
Moving to a different computer, give me a few minutes

>>736640786
damn this sodoku is hard to figure out

>>736648260
Reminds me of Snowdrop
But so do other plants remind me

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>>736648168

Steal the book and run it through UV light

>>736648471
>>736648526
Okay, and I was just kinda fantasizing

>>736648303
People like to write phony shit to fuck with people. That's why we have creepypasta and youtube "top 10 scariest" videos

>>736648493
Weird zodiac or chant thing for a flower or god

how the universe works and some misteries of it

>>736648582
They've already done that a billion times.

>>736648079
Guess the round ones would be hard. My guess is that each page had it's own Cardan Grille, prolly tied together in a secondary booklet. There's still some latin wording here and there, maybe it indicated which decipher page to use.

About the origin or why it was coded IDK. All I know is Italy was a shithole in the 15th. Well still is, but you get my drift.

>>736648402
I'm back, and looking into it

>>736648696
Welcome back, I'm kinda stuck on my phone
Also, good luck

>>736642924
>>736643485
>>736646235
kinda looks like mandalas
>pic related it's from the dardo thodol (tibetian book of the dead)

>>736647277

In here the fucker wanted to categorize the roots for some reason. Tower on the left has the category, then there are roots with the names and some explanation. Grouped by plant type, root type, usage?

>>736648749
I was on my phone, but battery ran low.

Found a website with scans of all the pages
search for Beinecke library, Voynich, you should find it.

>>736648824
That could be it

>>736648493
Maby the wheels are like >>736647510
And you can make a wheel with holes in itand we can just brute force it

>>736648626
but wy would you write this shit if you are literally starving to death because you are a misery fucking poor pleb

>>736648922
I think I have that on my pc, but okay

>>736640786

Schizophrenia existed back in the day.

Give me my fuckin money

only smart people could write back than
>there has to be a hidden meaning behind all that

>>736648200
Welp, humans are masters at deceit. I could see some stoner scribble trying to sell this to a lord claiming it contains ancient secret knowledge. Then again it's quite elaborate and he still would have to pay for all the materials. But I find it implausible since there is so much effort involved.

There is speculation that one of the plants is a new-world sunflower. And since the author fucks up many other plant pics I assume he never saw most plans (other than the hemp) irl. Maybe it's some "coded" new world knowledge, but honestly this is all speculation.

i guess we have to think "out of the box" to solve this puzzle

>>736649129
I don't get it

>>736649068
Maybe one guy lost it later in life but his commissioners still let him work for them so he could still make a living.

>>736648824
Farthest to the right, third row down looks like a fungus of some sort. I suspect that these are all not roots, but blooms, oriented downwards.

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could be secret illuminaty knowledge

Let's make our own gibberish manuscript and plant it somewhere in Mount Rushmore.

We'll be wasting /b/'s time by 2100.

>>736649260
Dude, that's Pando!

>>736648993
Yea we have like 100 /b/tards and they all can give it a try someone just ask someof the graphic design people for help

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here are some other people who are not naked

>>736649305
THIS.

Third row down, second farthest from the right on the roots page, reminds me of a tulip blossom

>>736645052
Oh shi-

>>736649324
oh jeezus

>>736649367
Cycle of day and night explained?

>>736645052
...

>>736648993

Where would you start the job for making Gillians card when we don't even know for what language it should be made? It could be latin, it could be medieval italic or any italian languages of the time from lombaric, alemannic, slovenic to anything. Greek and hebrew has been succested in the past.

>>736649411
Fuck yes it does

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what are those naked ladies doing? looks like some occult shit to me

>>736647322
Literal fucking shitpost, medieval style

>>736644495
fuck off and die with this meow shit....meow

>>736649479
maybe

>>736649556
See, I think some of these are upside-down.
Same row, farthest left, is also a flower, rootstock wouldn't stop into a thin stem, but look at it differently, and it becomes a flower.

>>736649593
Seems like me like something an organ would do

>>736649642
yep it's a collection of forgotten memes

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>>736649593
Reminds me of degenerates

>>736649742
It's page 99v on the Yale Beinecke library site.

>>736645563
Thst use the same symbols often probably too often to be matching letters of another language.
Maybe it's like stating the type of word or sex of word or something
O= Male OH= female 8= neutral
Or
O= living thing OH= living human 8= inanimate

You guys forget one qustion: why would it be encrypted in the first place? If we find out the moitivation for the encryption we might be able to crack it easier

>>736649791
so medieval hippies it is?