Why do conservatives, right wingers or the altright hate Muslims

>>736510532
Bump

>>736510532

How many of those people are genuinely economically frustrated , and how many of them just hate minorities.

Wonder if this thread will get ignored because it's too close to home or it turns into a shitstorms of half full /pol/itcal arguments and race b8

Good luck OP

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>>736510532
>ideoLOGies

>>736510532
True but they also fly planes into towers.

as retarded as some of you motherfuckers are, I take away more information from threads like these than I do from news TV.

At the end of the day it doesn't matter what you believe or what color your skin is, you're a fucking parasite and will die while making no impact on the universe

>>736511098
Well with the likes of liberal fake news spewing outlets such as CNN and MSNBC that's understandable lol

>>736511074
This is true. The conservative republican Bush Administration flew planes into the World Trade Center.

>>736510532
muslims hate American culture. so no matter how much a conservative hates the gays the fact that a muslims hates america means theyll fight along side Neil Patrick Harris if they have to

>>736510532
Fascism has had links to Islam since forever.
I've been waiting for /pol/ to notice but it's like they are all larping into some weird world.

>>736511004
The ones who can afford marlboro reds are the we'll set ones. Anyone below that is just bitching to bitch

>>736511248
wat?

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bad b8 m8

>>736510532
more important question, if the liberals are so keen in importing muslims and forcing everyone to accept refugees, why are they against conservatives then ?
shouldnt they be supporting conservatives ?

>>736511336
the enemy of my enemy is my friend.
1.Gays (for the most part) like America
2.Conservatives like America
3.Muslims don't
4.????
5.Profit

>>736510532
Muslims don't have an 'ideology', the religion of Islam iself consists of battling, inconsistent factions and sects with contradictory views. So, speaking of ideology, imaginary 'Muslim ideology' is a product of concrete American ideology.

>>736511196
except for you. you go the fuck away.

>>736511074

what is the oklahoma city bombing?
what are abortion clinic bombings?
who is repeatedly attempting to break in or shoot at the white house whilst the first african american president was in office?
what are the rise in anti-government miltia's during the last presidency?

>>736510532
I'm not a conservative or religious. I stand against Sharia. I will kill anyone who threatens my life, my family's, or my closest friends and patriots. It is not for an ideology, it is about survival.

>>736511516
Utter cunt gibberish.

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>>736511248
Which is weird, because Republicans hate the same things Mudslimes hate about America, except for some retarded ass reason Republicans keep voting to put the thing they hate most into positions of power.

you clearly don't know what you're talking about.
also do this on /pol/ tumblrfag
free kekistan from shitty liberal normie cucks
kys faggot

>>736511697
but you just said they both have the same ideology anon
why you want to accept muslims but hate on conservatives ?

>>736511725
jeez her face looks weird but the rest of her is hot.

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>>736510532
>hate gays
>hate trans
>are racist
>are supremacists
>want women to have as little rights as possible

I mean there actually have been cases of Iron March fags converting to Islam because Islam is an anti liberal religion in the sense that it rejects physicalism as being the dominant mode of thought for a people. Islam is an Arabic Supremecist religion that preaches hyper violence and expansion, religiously prescribed lying (in many ways) and then there religious practices in certain middle eastern countries like

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bacha_bazi

Which people today try to distance from Islam, but pederasty is technically halal in Islam. Although like any religion there has been disputes over this. In the Quran Mohammed actually alludes to the practice though I forget the verse

>>736511725
yeah but as i said
>>736511559

>>736510532
A Trump Supporter would not kill someone for being gay.
ISIS would kill someone for being gay.

The subjective motivational set of ISIS is identical with the Quran and Trump supporters do not believe in all of the Quran. Therefore the ideology of some trump supporter is substantially different than the ideology of some ISIS supporter/member.

>hurr durr I will make vague general claims with absolutely no justification so people can't prove me wrong
>fuck drumpf XD
>no one would ever be able to deductively prove me wrong lol
>>prove me wrong
>doesn't even greentext right

/b/ has come a long way. Now people get paid for shitposting.

>>736511950
judging by the quality, they clearly arent paying enough

>>736511647
>snowflake triggered

kek

>>736511950
>a trump supporter would not kill someone for being gay
Wrong. The KKK publicly claimed support for Trump, among other neo nazis. If given the opportunity, a Trump supporter would absolutely kill a homosexual, and many probably already have.

>>736511652
what religion is responsible for more than 95% of terrorist attacks on earth?

>>736511950
>butthurt faggot detected
>IM NO MUDSLIME!!!!

>>736511196
Or Breitbart and Fox News spewing their fake-ass conservative news.

>>736511871
So in a sense, Islam is an ethno centric religion for Arabs with an Arabic mindset in it's religion. Religion is an expression of folk, and while many people do not like gays or the thought of egalitarianism the reasons why people disagree with that egalitarianism is different. Christianity is also an abrahamic religion, and what most people think of being the stereotypical conservative (the evangelical preacher guy) isn't the alt right. Paleocon maybe, but the alt right is an umbrella term for a lot of different fascists and Traditionalists.

>>736511248
And...Americans hate Muslim culture. So what.

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>>736512060
>The KKK is the average Trump support

No but ISIS is the average muslim

>>736512060
>many probably already have
Come back with some evidence, bro. Not only does ISIS kill gay people, Saudi Arabia publicly executes gay people.

I bet you couldn't find a single story of a Trump supporter intentionally killing a gay person motivated by that person's being gay.

>>736510532
I'm not going to prove you wrong because that would be impossible

>>736511248
I'd rather throw Neil Patrick Harris into a bog desu. He's the definition of a decadent bourgeoisie faggot.

>>736512264
And those are the ones who actually admit to it.

>>736512074
Judaism

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>>736510532
>labels broad group of people as bigots

Here you go, my precious little snowflake. A reply, just for little ol' you!

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>>736512074
Judeo-Christian-Islam. They all come from the same region and have the same ancient religious origins. Allah=Yahweh=God. Jesus is an important figure in Islam too, etc. Pic related.

>>736511936
Yeah, but you would think that after years of being subservant to corporate overlords who strip away state and constitutional rights they'd create their own party and just rule with the majority of America.

But then again, people who vote Republican are usually gump breeding mongoloids, so there's that.

>>736510532
You're assertions are idiotic. You've provided no proof. You're an obvious troll and no one has to answer to you.

>>736512125
In no way did that guy even say that he was a trump supporter

>>736510532
You are correct sir, both are zealot fringe groups who despise a society which is increasingly becoming more and more secular. First, muslims made up of disenfranchised young people led by extremist groups like the taliban and al quaida under the umbrella of "ISIS", who successfully led revolutions in every secular middle eastern country. And now here in the US, with the alt-right and their man Trump, who instead of creating legislation that will actually benefit this country, only seems content to basically undo everything Obama did to simply appease them, the uneducated, disenfranchised, rural, blue-pilled sycophants that put him in office. So the fact that most of these people don't even really understand what ISIS is, what they stand for, or where it came from, I doubt they'll ever admit that in all honesty, they're the same kind of people.

Because conservatives in America believe in progressing technology and improving their lives over praying to a black tool shed five times a day. That's why we invented or mainstreamed every modern convenience as well as having a space program and those fuckers are still running around in circles like it's 1200 a.d. Fuck them and fuck you for even making a comparison.

>>736512567
yeah im not to happy with the party at the moment but its still better than winding up like cuba

>>736512366
Are you really going to deny that republicans haven't kill homosexuals before? Conservative Christians pastors literally go to Africa as missionaries and tell people that gay men need to be killed, and lesbian women raped. I'm not even bashing Trump here (he seems to be pretty supportive of LGBT), but republicans absolutely carry out hate crimes against homosexuals.

>>736512264

Countries surveyed:

>Afghanistan
>Irak
>Pakistan
>Egypt
>Indonesia
>Malaysia
>Tunisia
>Tadschikistan
>Turkey
>Kosovo

Those countries don't make up 1.6 billion people you stupid shit.

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>>736512538
I'll have the rabbit deity please

I wouldn't call myself a right wing person nor am I even American in the first place but TBH I'm just scared of the religion. The text it is based on allows itself to be misconstrued in ways that have caused so much harm in recent times. I'm not denying the fact that most Muslims are great people it's more that I fear for one of my close friends who is gay that some dude who has taken something out of context will throw him off a house

>>736512264
This. ISIS is a perfectly legitimate expression of islam. Nothing they have done goes against the correct, hierarchical reading of the koran or the hadiths. It's why islam has no place in the civilized West.

>>736512691
Those countries call themselves 'moderates' do you know that.

Why do liberals allign themselves woth islam and not conservatives if they are the same? Op has a flawed point

>>736512264
Yeah this is wrong lol. Islam has the highest following in Indonesia, Pakistan and India and they are a secular nations.

>>736512790
>hi, I don't know history. But I can tell you I fear the muslims because they're the only religion whose texts are open to different interpretations
You sir, are a dumbass.

>>736512905
Iran before the revolution?

>>736510532
Simple, most of us aren't hicks.

>>736512975
Iran. Syria. Egypt. Libya. And yeah, Iraq before Bush WMDs. Oh, and half a dozen others.

That's exactly what I though this morning.

>>736510532
You're an idiot.

If the West stopped supporting Israel we would find ourselves as less of a target for terrorist attacks. If we stopped invading the region wvery few years it would also lessen the reasons for attacks against us. We're getting what we deserve.

> Trump supporter would absolutely kill a homosexual, and many probably already have

So because the KKK voted for Trump, every Trump voter is now the KKK, logic

>>736512790
You do not care about your gay friend do not lie to me you bitch

>>736513105
False.

>>736510532
you are wrong, no proof needed, lol

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>>736510532
So basically, "all dirty little bigots matter," OP?
Including yourself
Without even a basic understanding about Islam
But you 4chan cunts have no understanding of any ethnicity or culture outside of drooling idiot white America
sure, I guess it's consistent with most of you inbred fucktards and your ridiculous misconceptions.

Here you go, OP. All racist police lives matter.

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So I am not a leftist just because I don't want my country to have a barbarian ideology? Mom! OP is a fag again

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>>736512145
DELETE THIS

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>>736510532
Atheist bump

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>>736513212
truth hurting there, bitch?

>>736512538
>they come from the same source
>therefore they must be the same
You must be retarded. I should make this post very clear for you.

Let us assume that it is true that Judeo-Christian-Islam
>come from the same region and have the same ancient religious origins.

Even if this is the case, what explains the differences between the doctrines of Judaism, Christianity, and Islam today? So, at this point you have two moves to make, namely the environment changed the religions, or the religions did not change.

If you choose the environmental change explanation, then your post becomes irrelevant.

If you choose The religions did not change explanation, then you will have to explain why each religion has a different set of holy books and why these holy books have vastly different content.


In short, it seems prima facie impossible that these religions are no different from one another.

>>736513067
>and yeah, Iraq before Bush WMDs
That's the shit-kicker right there, a conservative US president declares war on a secular Muslim country with a thriving economy whose dictator banished the religious zealots to the desert with a little serin gas. That's what started the whole mess.

>>736513162
Explain

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>>736513067
Groovy

>>736511196
Faggot

>>736510532
Because they are two different levels of extremes that have different tolerances of opposing views.
The right wing in america doesn't try to silence free speech nor do they attempt to force anyone to do anything (kinda like the left has been doing) nor do they KILL IN THE NAME OF RELIGION (don't try to strawman by referencing some shit that happened centuries ago)
We don't go to other countries, refuse to assimilate and demand to be able to operate outside of that countries laws and expect them to adhere to OUR culture.

If the right wing conservatives of america were as bad as you like to portray them to be you wouldn't of even of had the ability to post your shitty post without the fear of being rounded up by the government and put in a fucking work camp or just straight up executed.

False equivalencies everywhere and your post is propaganda

>>736513188
Go fuck yourself. No one has misconceptions about the religion of peace you pussy cuck apologist

>>736510532
Better yet if the muslims are so similar to right wing america then why does the left like muslims but hates right wing america

>>736513162
Found the Jew.

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>>736512975
>>736513067

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>>736511074
Yeah and murican insitutionalized jihad bombs schools, mosques and hospitals killing waaaaay more innocent ppl than 9/11 every fucking yearbut since they don't have the outlets and cool hollywood movies for it everyone forgets how fucking atrocious their lives are.

>>736510532
>prove me wrong
Not how argumentation works.

>>736512790
you should try actually reading the Quran. it will all make sense after you do so

>>736513377
Exactly my point aswell

>>736511014

daddy daddy force the meme!

daddy daddy i love this meme!

daddy daddy you're so funny!

>>736513299
I used to have that opinion also. The fact is that almost that entire region is living in the stone age. They're barbaric and seek to conquer the world. The Muslims in London say that just as same as Syria or anywhere else.

>>736512060
who ties your fucking shoes for you, retarded ass libcuck?

>>736511393
>Bernie
American education is already in a decline, we don't need this fucker shitting it up more with his "free" college.

>>736512974
No I don't know to much history I'll admit and Islam is most certainly not the only religion open to interpretation, Christianity and the KKK is an immediate example. My point is that misinterpretation of Islam in recently times has lead to terror an violence. With "The War on Terror" becoming an almost constant headline it's hard not to feel scared. What I will say is that's I didn't mean I'm scared of Muslims and Islam, I'm scared of those who take these beliefs to the extreme

>>736513610
Yes heaven forbid that we cut the funding of those lazy white trash idiots in the military so we can educate the population

>>736513318
>The right wing in america doesn't try to silence free speech
Sure they dont. ~.^

A lion and an alligator may eat the same prey, they may both have sharp teeth, and they may have many similarities. The lion and the alligator can be okay with each other existing, as long as the lion remains in the plains and the alligator in the water. I know it's a shitty comparison, but fuck you.

Islam and the "alt-right" can have similarities while also being completely incompatible with each other. The main concern isn't that Islam exists, but that (((certain groups))) are trying to bring large numbers of muslims to America. That's like trying to put a lion and an alligator in the same cage. They both will act out of their own self interest, which will lead to conflict.

Basically, fuck you and your horseshoe theory bullshit.

>>736513398
They've actually never made a movie about 9/11, which is kinda odd considering the type of tragedies that get movies here. Shit just 3 years after Bernie madhoff was convicted of perpetrating the largest Ponzi scheme in America, possibly the world, a guy who basically created NASDAQ, right under the SECs nose, got an HBO special. Crazy times we live in.

>>736512677
you're absolutely full of shit
the burden of proof is on you and yet you havent cited a damn thing.
Also, maybe keep it to the last 100 years

>>736511196
Just FYI tho, news reporting in America has long since been a joke even before CNN was exposed as the retard news network.

>>736513761
HAHAHAHAHAHA GOT EEEM

>>736513740
>They've actually never made a movie about 9/11,
There have been several made.

>>736512677
Do homosexual republicans hate homosexuals?

>>736513740
dude...... might want to check again

>>736512568
Fag

>>736510532
>confusing all conservatives and right wingers with the religious right. I am a fiscal conservative and libertarian. Seperation of church and state

>>736513740
Uh "world trade center" the movie came out in like 2007

Flight 93 was before that

>>736513504
Fair point I have neglected to do so,

>>736513697
The quality of education would steeply drop if college was "free," my own democrat voting professors know this.

>>736513946
There have been a few about flight 93, all of them boring.

>>736513854
Name one feature film, and I don't mean the documentaries.

>>736512691
>he believes that the survey needs to survey each individual muslim
holy shit dude do you even know how polling works? I thought CTR shills needed to know how polling works.

>>736512874
>Indonesia, Pakistan and India

Lol their government may be but their people are not. All of those are massive terrorist hot beds, Pakistan and Indonesia especially. Hell there were Indonesians in that rent ISIS storming of that city in the Philippines

>>736512691
Actually the full survey that Pew did, (and has done every year since) polls every major and minor Muslim country.

>>736512632
Yes, but the retarded suburban losers of Nu-Pol won't comprehend this

>>736513946
Oh, well I never saw them.

>>736513706
Lets talk about how universities across america (a place that should be reknown for the differences and exploration of ideas) are banning right wing conservative speakers from even setting foot on campus.
Then get back to me about how the "right is silencing free speech"

>>736513992
World Trade Center, it was huge when it came out. Boring movie, shame to see Nicholas Cage sully himself with such drivel.

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>>736512632
>And now here in the US, with the alt-right and their man Trump, who instead of creating legislation that will actually benefit this country, only seems content to basically undo everything Obama did to simply appease them, the uneducated, disenfranchised, rural, blue-pilled sycophants that put him in office. So the fact that most of these people don't even really understand what ISIS is, what they stand for, or where it came from, I doubt they'll ever admit that in all honesty, they're the same kind of people

The amount of retardation in this post, first of the alt right disavowed Trump the minute he bombed the Russians, second of all the alt right has nothing in common with Islam besides being anti-liberal.

Jeez you might as well say the alt right are communists because Engels hated fags and Stalin had gays thrown in the gulag. I mean communists are anti liberal, so they must be Islamic alt right fags right?

>>736514202
You mean this guy?

>>736513971
>disclaimer: anecdotal evidence of questionable authenticity.

>>736513261
Fag wasp, go to grandmas house for cookies little bitch

>>736510532
im altright
>i dont hate gays, Milo Jananapapalapplous is awesome
>i dont hate trans, i just refuse to call them by their pronouns and i dont believe their ideology
>im not racist, im meritocratic, its not my fault blacks and few other groups just cant compete with whites, i judge everyone individualy based on their merits. I refuse to give away help and my resources to people who cant support themselves. Thats it.
>im not supermacist, i dont care who rules as long as they rule well
>i want women to have equal rights to men, but nowdays women have more priviliges than men, for example in my country i can retire 5 years later than a woman and i may be drafted into the army.

99% common beliefs about conservatives and right wingers are false and are based on political demonising tactics employed by corrupt left.

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Because I dont like black cocks like you OP

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>>736514202
You mean this guy? He's been pretty sullied for a while now

>>736513848
>When your only argument is strawman

This is more straw than man, it's more of a straw pile desu

>>736513318
Not to say OP is right cause he is still a faggot and I think his post is bull shit, but the point is to say that those extremist populations that exist would likely be on the same level if they had control in the US. The psychopathic populations of both conservatives and liberals however, have very little control or influence over their party (except maybe the Hillary supporters). The only thing that really keeps those people from being violent is that we have a sane system of government with laws that they don't control. We have repercussions for actions and so they don't do anything because they'll go to prison, but they'll sure as hell scream and shout about doing it when they're angry. Really I think the discussion is that there are many hyper conservative nut jobs that would basically be ISIS if they had control over the country. Of course they don't go out in the streets slaughtering people they disagree with or despise, because they can't.

I don't like raping children/Sharia law

anyone else here hates White America

>>736514325
No your're not alt right, you what's called alt lite. You're that dyel faggot with the kekistani flag who is basically just a pro nationalist liberal.

The alt right was started in 2008 when people started to counter the mainstream right (which is essentially what you are, just the 2.0 version) that eventually took on the dark enlightenment and became a neo-fascist movement/ umbrella term for light Traditionalists.

>>736514259
You should probably shut your face and go take a nap my man. And to answer your closing question, yes. They are fags.

>>736514448
You're a Moron. "Altrite is just like Isis except for sharing any commonality at all what so ever"

>>736511009
like the millennials ignore threads? is that what you mean?

>>736514368
>He's been pretty sullied for a while now
Yea ever since he did World Trade Center.

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>>736514031

>holy shit dude do you even know how polling works?

Yes, actually I do, you fucking shit. You are probably the kind of mongoloid that believes a survey of Christians in the USA also represents the Christians in Russia.

>pic related: You

>>736510532
Why do conservatives, right wingers or the altright hate Muslims so much when they basically share the same ideologies?
>hate gays
>hate trans
>are racist
>are supremacists
>want women to have as little rights as possible

If America had an ISIS, it would be made up entirely of Trump Supporters. The altright and Muslim extremists are two sides of the same coin.

>prove me wrong
As a conservative I don't hate Muslims I hate anyone who is radicalized. Whatever religion or belief system they hold dear is unimportant.

Do not hate gays. I do not hate Trans I want them to get the help they need.

I am not racist. I don't like bad people. Criminals. If they happen to be black that's not the issue.

I am not a trump supporter. I don't blindly follow a president because he agrees with a few things I agree with.

>>736511219
sure kid

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>>736510532
>hate gays
They aren't throwing them off rooftops, they just don't want a couple faggots making out next to them
>hate trans
They don't want a tiny fucking minority of people to police their language
>are racist
Wouldn't say they share that with Muslims, since Islam is a religion, not a race.
>are supremacists
Meh, I'll just throw you a bone there.
>want women to have as little rights as possible
They not the ones stoning women who get raped.

So, I mean, you just really gotta decide which is the worse of the two evils.

>>736514638
lol okay

>>736514705
Nailed it

>>736510532
Amount of Trump supporters attacking innocent people > Antifa attacks.

Rural people shouldn't ever vote.

>>736511652
what is your imagination.

>>736510532
Because I'm liberatarian also if someone has any of those liberatarian Spider-Man memes plz share

>>736511725
yawn

>>736514638
except the only commonality they don't share is control.

>>736514799
>what is willful ignorance

>>736514759
yawn

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>>736514637
>The alt right wants a totally centrally planned egalitarian utopia that leads to become a post identity, post currency, post scarcity world

Yeah no. You might be retarded

>>736512725
Roll

>>736514845
what is your imagination.

You are fucking retarded. Kill yourself, you mud baby.

>>736510532
>LOOK EVERYONE! OVER HERE! PAY ATTENTION TO ME!!!
How you look right now, saged.

>>736512677
>>736515015
>Uganda

They are low IQ niggers you absolute mong, no Republican from the US ever commits hate crimes that is ISIS tier ever. You have niggers act like niggers regardless of what they believe in.

>>736510532
I don't think you know what you're talking about here. For one, these alt-righters are probably good Christians, they are also probably the kind of people who actually have a pair of balls and don't need to make shitty posts on the internet bashing others in order to validate their pointless existence.

>>736514988
>If I don't see it it didn't happen.
>how do people disappear when they play peekaboo with me?

>>736515198
lol you're argument "These guys are awesome, you're a piece of shit"

>>736514692
>The altright and Muslim extremists are two sides of the same coin.

No lmao they are polar opposites, they just both oppose liberalism.

>I just hate radicals
>I hate those who are radically different

That's a very nice ad populum you are making. Too bad it's a fallacy.

>>736515312
But he's right

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>>736513565

>>736515370
>right about subjective "I think these guys are cool and you're not"

>>736510532
>Why don't two different supermacist groups not get along?

I don't think you understand how supermacy works.

>>736514306
>implying all of your evidence isnt anecdotal.

>>736512074
How many Americans have been killed since 1975 by Islamic terrorist groups? The question is rhetorical, but for the sake of argument, I've included a chart. And I can tell you that more people died in this country from choking on their food than did by any fuckin terrorist. What you're trying to imply is the same kind of bullshit we're fed by this liberal media you bluepilled fuckers keep pissing and moaning about. When was the last time anyone you personally know was killed by a jihadist?

>>736510532
It's time to move on. You gotta let it go. She lost.

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>>736515500
Forgot my chart

>>736515432
It's a troll comment why are you taking it seriously, he basically just called OP a fag.

>>736515567
lol

>>736515500
That point isn't incredibly interesting, as we aren't their main target. We aren't their main target because there are countries closer to them that have incredible amounts of Islamic terror. To say it's not a direct threat to us now, and so it will never be a direct threat to us ever is ignorant.

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>>736515564
>More likely to be killed by foreign terrorist than dog
>Foreign terrorists literally have less control than a fucking dog

>>736510532
Both are imperialistic. They clash when they reach beyond their current boarders.

>>736514841
Yawn

>>736515564
Oh its this kind of an argument

>You know you are more likely to die of disease in war than bullets so don't worry about keeping your head down lmao

Yeah no that kind of argument is beyond retarded. The problem isn't just lone wolf terrorists it is permeantly shifting our culture into theirs which then begins to import more and more violence every year. Like in Europe, where most of the terrorists aren't refugees but sand niggers who were born and raised in the country.

Omar Mateen was one such person, and if we allow immigration to happen at all it is just going to get worse. The main modes of death are due to a failing society because of this multicultural bullshit destroying our own culture, group trust, and community in the name of importing new cultures here so some rich urbanite faggot can feel good about himself.

>>736515564
>Based on 2013
OP is retarded.

>>736515896
>Alt right
>Imperialistic

No , they are nativistic and isolationist.

>>736514306
It's common knowledge it removes incentive to provide quality education because people can sit on their fat asses and collect the money, but here's other takes on providing forms of "free"

American Right:
http://www.businessinsider.com/what-are-the-drawbacks-of-free-college-2016-3

https://www.forbes.com/sites/prestoncooper2/2016/10/28/free-community-college-still-a-bad-idea/#435a5b615b4d

American Left:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/grade-point/wp/2016/04/22/why-bernie-sanderss-free-college-plan-doesnt-make-sense/

http://www.thedailybeast.com/why-free-college-is-really-expensive

Independent:
http://www.npr.org/sections/ed/2016/02/17/466730455/fact-check-bernie-sanders-promises-free-college-will-it-work

>>736511196
You forgot fox

>>736515701
Idk man, I haven't yet but I'm pretty sure if I google the phrase I used to find that chart, but replaced the word Americans with people and added the word worldwide, I'm pretty sure more people are killed choking on their food than are killed by Islamic terrorism. I don't feel like it, but i would be surprised if that isn't the case. In the grande scheme of the world, with some near 8 billion people living on it, Islamic terrorism isn't the leading cause of death.

>>736516075
Trump and his minions are still having fun in the desert.

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Plop

>>736515982
It's not an argument dumbass, it's a metric. Those are the numbers of people killed by shit OTHER THAN TERRORISM. The fuck is the problem? It's not an argument against situational awareness ya fuckin dipshit.

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>>736510532
>>736511009

Or, they know it's true, but they refuse to admit that in order to keep their ego high and mighty.

>doesn't want to kill everything that made Western Civilisation the greatest thing the world has ever seen
There's the key difference.

>>736516364
Boooo

>>736516192
The alt right disavowed Trump after he bombed the Russians. The alt right opposes all the wars in the middle East wtf that's like their main talking point about how all of these oil wars are wars for ZOG.

>>736510532
because we can't both be the master race

>>736516337
Kill yourself new fag.

>>736516036
Yes, the odds are based on numbers and shit. Don't tell me you don't understand charts unless it proves your point.

>>736516166
Now you're just defecting to "people choke on food more," entirely? Okay, how do we prevent people from choking on their food? What exactly can we do about that? Not much. Islamic terror, however, we can make some sort of attempt at. If your argument REALLY is that people choke on their food more, so it's not a big problem, either find a solution to people choking on their food, or move the fuck on. This is pathetic. In 2015, there were 452 suicide bombings, resulting in 4,330 deaths. 450 of which were done by Islamic terrorists. That's a real problem, to which we can find a real solution.

>>736515982
> Hear disease and cancer are caused by anything other than people being fat retards or being subjected to carcinogenics.

>>736516527
Obvious bait has become obvious

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>>736511196
>fake news

There's a distinction, the left use fake news to mean "news I don't like." because they are offended little snowflakes. The right use the term to mean "news that is literally made up" There's a big difference.

>>736510532
jews tell americans what to do and what to think. jews hate Muslims because muslism basically stole 95% of jewish religion and called it their own. Aside from that they have some from that. Their aggressive non conformity and anti-free speech / free choice ideology

>>736510532
1. Supremacist =/ Ethnonationalism
2. Muslim supremacists want Islam to dominate others, white supremacists want whites to not be discriminated against.

Pretty good argument you got there.

Nothing you listed are political ideologies

>>736510532
>>736510552 (OP) #
When will people realize that this partisan bickering is playing right into the hands of the 1%? Divide and conquer is the motto and they're doing a fantastic job.

Both libshits and Republicucks have their fair share of bad apples, but when you actually sit down and talk with each other you realize that you share most of the same values.

Sitting down and talking with each other and treating each other with respect is exactly what they DON'T want to happen.

>>736510532
>If America had an ISIS

Islam is responsible for Isis, the Taliban, the muslim brotherhood, Hezbollah, Hamas, the GIA, and a whole host of other world wide islamic terrorist groups

Why do liberals believe Isis is the only Islamic terrorist group?

1. This thread is founded on fallacy and contains only fallacy and should be ashamed of itself.

2. Multiple things can be true at the same time.

3. Most of them don't hate gay people, they hate flamboyant asshats whose sexuality is their prime identity in life. The two often, but certainly not always, go hand in hand. If I met someone whose introduction was something along the lines of "Man, I sure love me some pussy", I'd probably try to distance myself from their vapid, meaningless existence ASAP.

4. Trans people are a non-issue, it's the self-proclaimed trans-activists that need Jesus.

5. Women in the South are some of the most empowered and respected women on the planet. Men and women understand their roles and do them well, without the confusion or lameness found in other demographics.

6. Have you noticed all the talk about the white race being bred out? Tell you what... put a spoonful of chocolate syrup in a gallon of milk and give it a good shake. The syrup is gone. The milk is as white as ever.

Where do you think the white people are coming from? It isn't the breeding of white people, it's the folding in of existing races. Breeding with blacks isn't going to make a dent in the white race, any more than Aborigines are going to breed out Australians; we get a tan while you get erased from history. Think about that the next time you watch Blacked.

>>736513398
The real vid is about Mexicans, no? Some smuggler and his uncle getting whacked

>>736510532
As somebody who is conservative and now I speak for myself. I don't hate homosexuals, transsexuals and I'm definitely not a racist. This is probably just another bait thread but this is my few on this subject. I don't like homosexuality, but I don't hate people that are homosexuals. I can't understand transexuality and I can't even imagine in what conflict you should be when being in the wrong body. I don't hate people that are from another race or country, but don't draw the racist card unnecessary.

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>>736516337
No you fucking moron, your argument isn't an argument. You are basically saying "oh we aren't in an all out war with an entire government so if we just adopted a few million refugees everything will be fine, just look how well europe is doin!

I mean sure there is a terrorist attack every week, growing racial and religious tensions , none of them work, none of them have anything in common with their historical nation, and there are massive problem with vandalism, theft, rape, murder, drugs, pedophelia cases that have been covered up by the police then uncovered like in Rotherham (and there is a lot more out there) but hey their main mode of death is still heart attacks!

Look, we are an aging and dysfunctional population we can't import million of these sand niggers and not expect conflict to arise. Want to know why the US doesn't have the problems of Europe with Muslims? Because it's actually hard to.immigrate here if you're a Muslim.

>>736510532
Why do you assume and entire group of people have the same way of thinking?

We hate people trying to destroy the lives of other people FOR NO REASON other than to bring down others.

Fuck you. Kill yourself

>>736510532
Both are very similar thats why.
It was like the Nazis and the Soviets, two different ideologies but strangely very similar

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>>736511196
No Fox?

>>736516876
That's inaccurate. Like I said, in 2015 alone, 452 suicide bombings committed, 450 were done by Islamic terror, and the other two were Communists, oddly enough.

>>736516553
The reason why people are allowed to be fat retards is because no one tells then otherwise and their are far greater cultural issues that lead them.ti live such a life of sloth and lethargy.

>>736516771
Most liberals are hypersensitive, uneducated campus activists and thick as pigshit. They only work on 'feelings'

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>>736516317

>Christopher Hitchens

Except he never said. But the right is know for making up bullshit.

>>736516550
By doing what exactly? Banning all muslims? We already have measures in place to combat Islamic terrorism but like all malice crime, bad things happen. Including choking on your food, which when it's your time to go isn't the most glamorous way to meet your maker, but does happen and is out of the control of most people it happens to. Beyond intelligence and surveillance, 4,000 people dying in terrorist attacks in 2015 is considerably less than in 1988.

>>736516963
You make zero sense. Kys

>>736516876
5,270 of those are against muslims themselves and in their own country, try again

>>736516982
It's not inaccurate it's in picture format

>>736516876
Saved. One for Facebook and Twitter. Should enrage the muslim filth and their apologists.

I hate Muslims because they're (mostly*) the only group carrying out terrorist attacks.

I'd feel the same towards jews, christians, catholics, buddists, whatever the fuck if they did what muslims did.

Can't believe I wasted a captcha on this.

sage.

>>736517077
Try again? So its okay if they kill their own civilians? What a depraved narrow minded faggot you are

>>736510532
We actually hate snowflakes and other non-achievers much more than we hate muslims.

>>736516979
Fox isn't a liberal media outlet

>>736517077
Lol as if you aren't just making numbers up

>>736516612
>one source and it's biased
See>>736516102

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>>736510532

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Y did berni quit??

>>736511290
???

>>736517151
It is actually okay that they kill themselves off. Maybe they'll just go extinct and in 20 years of them not having babies that live beyond 6 years, there won't be enough of them to be a real threat. Why do you think Assad and Russia are targeting schools in Syria? Seems like a pretty good strategy.

>>736517151
>So its okay if they kill their own civilians

I wouldn't say it's OK, just that nobody cares. It's when they export their vile barbaric terror religion to the civilized West that people take notice. Terrorism is part of their culture, not ours.

>>736516982
>oddly enough
They want another socialist revolution so they can fail at existing as a society again.

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>>736517316
>>736517341
I agree. I'm saying the fact that they kill each Other is a good idea of why they shouldn't be welcome in western society at all. You would hope they just die out, but they're cockroaches. There is an endless number of them, they procreate with multiple women in various countries. The whole region would need to be isolated or wiped out.

>>736510532

Same reason catholics and protestants fight in Ireland. They're whiny bitches.

>>736517021
Again, unless you have some form a solution to choking on your food, stop mentioning it. It's a useless number you're throwing out there to say, "Eh, bad shit happens." Yes, bad things happen, but this isn't a "bad things happen," scenario. This is a, "People are attacking other people, and this violence cannot be tolerated," scenario. Just because it isn't as large of a number as twenty years ago, again, has no relevance. I was just talking about one form of terror attacks, by the way. The actual death toll from terror attacks in 2015 is 28,328.

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>>736517354

>They want another socialist revolution so they can fail at existing as a society again.

[SOURCE] Alex Jones/info wars, breibart.com, Fox News, Rush Limbaugh, /pol/,..

Problem is that people like you are so fundamentally retarded that you aren't even able to identify socialism.

>>736512264
But it's not?

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>>736517616

>Hitler
>socialist-dictator
>ONLY IN AMERICA

>>736511009
Ive asked this question many times, Its always ignored

>>736512670
>we
Nigga shut up. You didn't do shit
Also, y'all invented all (or any) Apple products?
Oh no. That was a liberal.
Stfu pussy

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>>736517941
Ah, yeah. Those liberals that had it built by children in China. Good on ya, m8.

>>736516876
>Boston Marathon Bombers

>>736510532
Because muslims are brown you dumbass.

>>736518016
nvm not suicide bombing

>>736517610
There's absolutely zero distinction between the word terror and murder dude, and plenty of people kill each other every year for any number of reasons. Religious zealotry is just one. And if you want to know how to prevent choking on your food, it's as simple as chewing before swallowing. People choke for any number of reasons though. So you see, one solution to a problem with multiple causes isn't going to fix anything my dude. I'm only using choking as an example because it continues to irritate you, but I stand by my argument.

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>>736518094
Thanks for the correction. Fair of you.

>>736512670
you´ve mixed up liberal and conservative m8

>>736517616
I used the term "socialist revolution" because that's what it's called according to Marxist writing. In true [Marxist] Communism, the proletariat will naturally progress to eventually stage an uprising against the bourgeoisie in what is referred to as a socialist revolution. The revolution will dispose the government as well as the political power of the rich while the proletariat seizes the means of production. Afterwards, should the workers win, they will establish a temporary socialist state to combat counter-revolutionary forces trying to prevent the new free society from rising. After enough time passes and things like social class, money, and other forms of capitalism and social darwinism have been abolished, the socialist state will then become a communist society free of money, government, hierarchy, and so-on. Before you comment, no I am not a communist but rather a right-wing libertarian, but I've argued with enough communiggers to get an idea of the world they're striving for. So please, take your arrogance elsewhere.

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>>736516985
> uneducated
> campus

goddamn youre retarded

>>736518244
The zombie apocalypse in word form

>>736516613
Actually, in America they use "right" for conservatives and "left" for liberals. You've got them backwards.

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So what news outlets does /b/ and /pol/ watch/read?

I watch MSNBC, Fox, and Alex Jones, while I read NPR online

Democrats can't win an election since Trump and still stick to the same shtick that caused them to lose to begin with.

>>736516675
>Muslim supremacists want Islam to dominate others, white supremacists want whites to not be discriminated against.

Most Muslims are white you dumb shit.

>>736518403
Vice news. Everything else is just white noise.

>>736518440
It's hard to reach out to rural voters when rural people are all human filth.

>>736518378
I have to agree, I din't know why they keep trying given someone always takes the reigns and creates a miserable nightmare.

>>736518159
I'm not as irritated by your choking analogy as you might think, because I think it makes you look like an idiot, quite frankly. That makes me happy. Now, you're suggesting that the number 28,328, the number attributed to deaths by Islamic terror is indistinguishable from the global murder rate? I thought you were going to make it hard to have you looking like the most ignorant person in this thread.

>>736516613
>thinks breitbart and infowars are always 100% factual
>thinks the government is turning the frog gay
Ok buddy

>>736510532
Yeah its called the KKK and btw Muslims hate them back. They hate each other because of one minor yet fundamental difference. Religion. Otherwise, they are very much the same. Radical, violent, stupid. Muslims rape more though.

>>736511687
Sure you will

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>>736518376
>A liberal diploma in feminist cat massage is education

Found the left wing retard lol

>>736510532
Because then damned brown people is a different color than me and my sister-wife!

>>736511009
>>736517866
>>736510532
samefag

this thread is super gay. conservative here who isn't any of those things. you are proven wrong again but you dont listen

>>736518780
How would you know what goes on at college when you were never accepted to one?

>>736510532
I hate muslims because they are no better than animals.

For instance Muslim Imam was invited to speak to "Moderate" Muslims in Flordia in private religious gatherings at a mosque where he called for the death of gays... just before the Flordia Night Club shooting.

I could care less if a muslim is black, brown, white, or purple. They stand for hate.

The man they believe was a prophet from god was a murder and a pedophile.

They promote slavery, rape, and all that is wrong with the world.

I know many conservatives and none of them are out there promoting gays should be killed or women should be raped

They are animals and they should be put down like animals to the last child.

>>736518919
At the rate they are inbreeding they will do it to themselves in a few generations.

>>736518780
Funny because the only degree you will see is the temperature on McDs deep fryer.

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>>736518669
Out of 430,000 homicides that year, yes I'm saying that terrorism in its various forms where one person or a group of persons kills another person or group of persons is indistinguishable from one person killing another person for sleeping with his wife. I mean, you might think I'm an idiot but that's like, your opinion man. I honestly don't give a shit.

>>736518981
Thats the problem they just start capturing and raping nuns to breed out more little murdering pedophiles.

>>736512538
Allah means "god" in arabic, yahweh is just sort of a "name" for said god.

>>736518566
Funny, they think the same of urban loft dwelling craft beer drinking Prius drivers. However it isnt a rural thing exclusively. Since 14 the suburbs are becoming increasingly red. By the midterms next year the only place Dems will have left that is safe are the large cities

>>736518399
No he has it correct, liberals refuse to listen to anything but feelings and disregard all facts as blasphemy.
Provide a leftists with facts and they resort to name calling, shrieking fake news, identity politics, and virtue signalling. And when they present their own "facts" they make no citations and when you refute said "facts" they resort to name calling, shrieking fake news, identity politics, and virtue signalling.

>>736519112
Fag

>>736518724
You're so fucking stupid it hurts me to watch you try to form a thought.

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>>736519032
I wouldn't say it's indistinguishable from normal homicides, as they are all connected to a singular thing, that being Islam. You quoted TBL, though, so I'm over it.

>>736518823
Okay

>Fox News is the only honest, balanced network
>republicans are the best, democrats are stifling free speech
>I love freedom, faith shouldn't be be ridiculed---only Islam not Judaism where newborns have their dick sucked that's anti semetic

You're a pathetic human

>>736519106
>majority of population is left-leaning
>but they're going to lose seats
I'll bet. The only reason why the GOP has any power is because our electoral college system gives the most political power to those who deserve none. The rural filth.

>>736511098
that... is worrying

there's not truth to be found in these /pol/ infested threads, just massive propaganda

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>>736510532
#8MoreYears
#LiberalTears
#StayMadSnowflakes

:^)

>>736510532
I personally do not like them as they are opportunistic cowards. With NO god damn backbone. Turn all the Middle East to glass.

Gays, blacks and others I don't mind at all. Just keep that Shit to yourself and be a good human being to others.

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>>736511098
>I take away more information from threads like these than I do from news TV.

Stop watching CNN lol

>>736519352
Bump

>NASCAR
>much immigrant and refugees are flowing in by the millions

Even worse is anyone who can sit through a whole 5min Mark Dice video

>>736519398
Tfw your larping wouldn't even get you a White House visitors pass

Trump loves cucks, looks who his team is, retard

>>736510532
Why are liberals so fucking retarded?
Take OP for example
thinks all conservatives, right wingers and alt right:
>hate gays
>hate trans
>are racist
>are supremacists
>want women to have as little rights as possible

fucking liberals man..
so fucking stupid

>>736510532

I think I'm more right then left.

>Don't hate gays
>Think trans is a mental illness...not homosexuality
>Am raciest but not the hate kind..more like the make fun of other races kind cuz shit is true and funny
>I'm not proud to be white. THe only thing that's made us this color is if our ancestors were born close to or farther from the equator
>Women do need to understand they are below us on the food chain.

>>736519446
>they are opportunistic cowards
>with NO god damn backbone

that's actually what i think about the majority of non-muslims, when i observe a decent muslims dedication to work, friends and family.
they're so much better at all that than we are.

of course it comes with excessive social pressure and regressive morals, which 1st generation muslims imported from their countries. that lessens a lot in the 2nd and following generations, if the family is successful economically.

just my observation.

>>736519280
I think you're looking for fire where there is only smoke my man. There is only one thing murders and the people who commit them have in common, psychopathy. It isn't normal to kill other human beings no matter what you believe in and people who kill each other believe themselves above the same moral code that keeps the rest of us safe. My point has always been that more people die of other shit than Islamic terrorism and simply because a number of the total deaths in the world are attributable to that doesn't mean murder is indemic to Islam. I don't particularly like them either to be perfectly honest. I think the greatest threat we face in modern times is climate change. Don't get me started on that but you can't just ignore a genuine threat by calling attention to some other less significant threats because it fits the agenda of a bunch of closed minded people better than science.

>>736519689
There's no cure to neoliberal stupidity... well... except free helicopter rides.

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>>736519642
>t. asshurt Hillary supporter

Get fucked libshit, 8 more years crying in your safe space lol :^)

>>736510532
>If America had an ISIS
It does, it's the left.

The only way to bring the rural riff raff around to our way of thinking is to punish them for their stupidity. If you have any conservatives in your employment, fire them and hire no more. If you work with any, sabotage and undermine them so they get fired. Do not rent or sell homes to them. Do not engage with them in conversation and do not associate with hem. Do not send your kids to the same school as theirs and do not let them play together. Do not treat them as human and do not give them even the slightest aid or comfort. Ostracize them.

>>736511157
/thread

>>736513318
>The right wing in america doesn't try to silence free speech nor do they attempt to force anyone to do anything


You haven't been to /pol/ yet have you. I'm routinely told that I need to die and that the Constitution doesn't apply to me for disagreeing with them. I'm not even a liberal either!

>>736519934
Tfw I voted for trump and have maga gear

>retarded "conservative"
I bet you "can't stand the intolerant left"....grow up faggot

both of them also hate the jews... tehehe

>>736519934
>Triggered
>Durr hurr Grrr libruhls

>>736520189

Nu-pol lacks critical thinking capabilities, it's like (their) plan came true

>die for Israel

>>736511638
good point mate

>>736520246
Try harder faggot

>>736512060
lots of evidence of gay people being killed because they are gay