I own 5.
Because I hunt, and am fully aware society can collapse overnight with one well placed bomb or disaster.
Because I'm fully aware that the government is not a magical entity eternally protecting me, it's some fucking idiots in a room, and the only person that actually gives a fuck about me and mine is me.
Because modern society is good, and me having the ability to defend myself doesn't hurt anyone or detract from the modern world, but if I was in a position to need to defend myself and I DIDN'T have the means to protect myself, I'm dead, and so is everyone I care about.
Life is harsh, and society and safety are fragile as hell.
In short, anti gun people are just people who think a woman who was raped to death is morally superior to a woman who shot her attacker before he could touch her.
Is great for a person who carries but doesnt intend to shoot.
Talk to me after youve shot a few things with it, cars , living animals, people.
The 380 out of that short barrel makes for a shitty affect on target.
Fuck gel tests, shoot actual breathing things.
Then you'll know what i mean.
Better than nothing
Shotguns normally in these major flavors
Mossberg, 870, Winchester
, and Benelli
Generally above is price low to high
Mossberg has the tang safety feature as where many others have the crossbolt.
If you want easy beginner versatility with after market parts: mossberg and 870 are your ticket
All of the major designs above have what are called clones, or models that other companies make that are so close to being a rip off, (almost all) the parts are interchangeable . Of course some companies own the "economy line company" but more on that another time.
Mossberg has a eco-company that does some outsourced labor in mexico and then is assebled in there mossberg factory ; its called Maverick 88s
Remington 870 has HR pardner, escort, and interstate
Fuck the interstate brand
Also mossberg makes good shotguns but fuck everything else they make
Hope that helps
>When the Zombie apocalypse happens, I'm coming to your house!
Fuck that, get your own shit. You really expect to mooch off other people when the happening happens?
I'd shoot you on the spot and steal all your supplies.
because I am skilled enough with the blade to deflect bullets
yes, including bullets from a shotgun
>literally anywhere but fucking walmart, jesus
Because why would I own a gun when I own many guns
Avg penetration was 1-2" with little to no expansion at 3ft. (On living target)
Any gun will naturally point. (Natural point of aim)
Ease of carry was the only positive comment i gave in my origonal statement
*most people/situations would be better off with a knife or a large rock.
I do own firearms, as I love to target shoot. I'm also a machinist by trade, and naturally find gunsmithing very fascinating.
I think what you actually meant to ask is, "why aren't your a retarded redneck faggot who gets erections fantasizing about getting the opportunity to legally gun other people down for trying to steal your weedeater or TV or something?" And to answer that question, it's because I'm not willing to kill or cripple someone over stupid material possessions. I have no desire to kill another human unless it literally is a matter of preventing them from hurting or killing someone else, especially if it's one of people I truly love and care about. I don't look forward to ever being in a situation where that would be necessary, and hope I never will be because it would still be a hard thing to live with.
Good luck getting a follow up shot, and hearing anything afterwards.
And a .357 out of a snubby revolver has the ballistics of a +p 9mm with a fuck ton of recoil, muzzle blast and flash and noise.
Retarded at best.
I have many, because freedom isn't free.
Quite the "flesh wound"
Literally nothing to do with your original points or my points.
Great dodge there.
>"Don't have to cock it to fire"
Uhh if you carry it chambered like you should, that's literally not an issue.
What ammo does the cat use? 8mm Meow-ser?
I would just rather draw and shoot than have to draw-cock-fire. And .357 is a more capable round than any weedy little 9mm
I don't own any, but I'd love to own one as a hobby, with self defense capability. I watch hickok45 quite a bit and guns seem like a fun thing to shoot and tinker with.
I'm in Toronto Canada so idk what gun laws are exactly here, I'm assuming I can't own any in the city lol
I guarantee you that your local police force carries with one in the chamber.
I guess with 24 hr coverage, special units, traffic units, patrol, and detectives you must have accidental discarges and dick flying all over.
Like a sadists fourth of july
Id love to see it in slow motion
Most fights usually end in 1-3 rounds fired why sacrifice firepower for quantity in situation where quantity matters for nothing? And in a life ir death situation i think your ears can take one for the team.
>Most fights usually end in 1-3 rounds
yeah, except the ones that don't
>north hollywood shootout, perps with body armor
>1986 FBI Miami Massacre, took 6 and 12 rounds respectively to kill each unarmored felon
Thanks for the cool gats, sorry you're such cucks
But solid gelatin with no simulation of muscle formation , contraction, or bone. That was formed by an amateur at what i guess we'll assume is 'close to' the fbi standards of testing, as are the proper conditions.
But it simulates shooting a living person better than shooting a living animal?...
Im gonna let you soak that in and think about it for a while
That doesn't apply to a why you mag dumped into someone.
Have fun dying a hero
>not hauling your fat ass out of that fucked scenario
If a mag or two of 9mm and .40 doesn't solve that scenario, why would another mag or two do it?
The cops solved that situation by driving to a gun shop and loading up on ARs with M855 ammo.
No, cops are taught to mag dump. My brother in lawworks for the Montgomery Sheriff's Department. It's almost as crime and nigger riddled as Atlanta. They mag dump and are always cleared
I didn't post gel. Why are you talking about gel?
These are just my ARs.
I have a Mossberg 590 Shockwave coming this week.
>65% of police carry 1911s
>navy seals carry 1911s
>MARSOC carry 1911s
oh...wait...they all carry G19s...
Because I live in a country where I can't get one easily. I would if I could though. Got a gas pistol, but that's just good for shooting for the thrill of it, can't really harm anyone.
c(r)ook county. but for real tho guns r great
the 870 tactical express, is a solid gun though not as finished as the mossberg 500 I particularly have seen both and the mossberg is definitely more polished up for looks while the 870 is basically the glock of shotguns, reallllllly solid.
FREEDOM ISN'T FREE
NO THERES A HEFTY FUCKIN FEE