no but google image is. just type in family nudism :3

>>736355097
the fb i has a known exploit that they have used and dismissed charges so they wouldn't have to give it up to the court

On the other hand I'd say nothing is truly safe from nation state level actors. It's just a matter if they are gunning for you.

>>736355491
I notice that too when i deleted my Facebook account it showed people from my school that I had no interest in.

well u always hear people say 'oh nsa runs a bunch of exit nodes' etc

but .onion sites are encrypted even on exit nodes and plus with three extra relays aside form original three so that doesn't apply to them

and also exit nodes can see data but not your IP

but as always if your threat model includes the nsa you're fucked :)

Tor isn't the issue. It's the people who use Tor that are fucking retarded. Human error, folks.

>>736355097
Nope im constantly watching/downloading cp and nothing happened to me

>>736355755
Anything worth greentexting?

>>736355755
Same here.

>>736355755
>tfw you accidentally run the CIA image or call 911 from an autoexec.bat

>>736355491
>the fb i has a known exploit that they have used and dismissed charges so they wouldn't have to give it up to the court

I've yet to see anything resembling proof of this. just people talking shit on forums.

>but as always if your threat model includes the nsa you're fucked :)

yeah this

>>736355755
>>736356203
I thought you pedos just used Kik groups these days or something

>>736355449
what is this going to do am i going to jail if i googled this

>>736356521
Way more efficient through TOR

Any good onion sites? Just go t this bitch

>>736356453
uh do a news search? It's not hidden

>>736356337
You cant, everyone trusts eachother, like why would you report/get someone in trouble thats the same as you are?

Its only .mp4 and image files so its like downloading normal porn, just slower, nothing else

>>736356763
I do but i wont post it here

>>736355097
no

>>736355680
What do you mean your threat model?

>>736356726
Tor is slow as fuck.

>>736356805
none of the articles I've found suggest that. Can you please link to one.

>>736355491
i dont understand. what?

>>736356626
no

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>>736356763

>>736355680
If you run enough nodes (which a nation state is more than capable of doing considering the size of Tor), you can easily do a traffic analysis attack. This allows you to determine what sites a user is accessing and the location of hidden services. Tor would only be secure if hundreds of millions of people used and provided routing nodes.

>>736357093
hahahahha

>>736357041
https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2017/03/fbis_exploit_ag.html
https://www.wired.com/2017/03/feds-rather-drop-child-porn-case-give-exploit/
https://arstechnica.com/security/2016/11/firefox-0day-used-against-tor-users-almost-identical-to-one-fbi-used-in-2013/

>>736357041
>TOR is slow as fuck.
Not if you have 60mbp/s and use good websites

>>736355491
>fbi has a known exploit
Yeah its called Java Script, just fucking disable JS. Also the FBI/NSA/Whatever the fuck isn't going to break RSA-1024, as long as you follow basic fucking rules and instructions to tor you're safe.

>>736357192
thanks! I was only finding older stuff

>>736357260
I thought your shit was being funneled through a bunch of slow ass nodes. Are you direct connecting to FTP or something insanely stupid?

>>736357339
>>736355491
Just install tor and youre fine, whats with the paranoia, jesus

>>736357596
>Are you direct connecting to FTP or something insanely stupid?

No, just install TOR, find sites, download/browse

Theres also chatrooms with a bunch of images being linked

Oh and disable scripts globally duh

I'm a mentally social outcast to people cause I'm nervous and it's like reading a book from tortoise and the hare. I feel like I'm a tortoise a lot ;~;

>>736357339
there is 100% beleivable reports that the they have broken encryption keys. NSA has its own super computer. And there is something about once they crack it once its trivial to crack again

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QRYzre4bf7I

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lVcbq_a5N9I

Yes, Tor is very safe, just find an instruction manual to tweak the settings each time you start up.
Using Tor just like that is NOT safe enough.
The tweak takes about 5 minutes every start-up, things including font exploits and permissions.
You need to turn these off, or the CIA can track you

>>736357192
>>736357596
legal stuff here is interesting. assuming bunch of people plead guilty for reduced sentences, and now find out the FBI would have backed off lol.

It'll be interesting to see what the exploit was ( assuming it wasn't controlling a ton of the nodes, like they did back in 2015 ) . Or just got someone on the inside ( which I know they did ) ....

It sounds like they got the cp ring site, then had everyone download malware.

>>736357339
They were able to trace out actual ip through the onion, and label mac address of known members...it wasn't simply a js issue.

>>736357869
how old are you anon

>>736357951
I've just seen the thumbnails and i already know its some bullshit, people will scare other people off of tor just so they dont watch the goodness that is CP

https://www.dailydot.com/layer8/government-contractor-tor-malware/

>>736358099
24

yall niggers need jesus

>>736358163
It's not that kind of video just check the channel it's quiet good if you're interested in computers

>disable js in about:config
>globally enable noscript

There are other things you can do to be even safer, something to do with fonts, etc, but I never bother with that. Just don't be stupid and use common sense and you'll be fine. E.g: using same credentials from the clearnet, etc

>>736358585
I know about Computerphile , i work in IT

But 99% of the freenet will tell you TOR is so disturbing and FBI will come at your door as soon as you click a link, and guillable people believe it, which is bs

>>736359029
People used to say the same thing about 4chan. I didn't come here until 2010 because everything that I ever heard about it was "IT'S FILLED WITH CHILD PORNOGRAPHY YOU WILL GO TO JAIL!"

I kept seeing greentexts posted elsewhere, and figured I could just filter out the awful shit. I never had to worry about that particular kind of shit filtering. The bark was worse than the bite/mountains out of molehills/etc

>>736355491
DPR is definitely in prison over this said exploit they wont give up.

Want some greentexts?

>be in onion land
>on maskfag irc
>someone dops link to dump
>crazy ass shit that I need not talk about

Other shit is kinda cool there tho
>go to the crystal palace onion
>puzzle written in the page
>read the html and find part of castle not shown on the page
>this leads to another onion with another puzzle
>literally going deeper and deeper to hell
>never made it into hell tho
>maskfags I was running with said it was insane and to not go there unless I wanted mib at muh door

Also way too much charlie parker for any burgerfag to feel safe, like you dont even have to look for it and its there, kinda sad tbh

Can we gat some good links?

>>736360132
NO IF YOU CANT FUCKING FIND YOUR OWN ONIONS YOU DO NOT NEED TO BE ON TOR OFFICER FFS

>>736359649
And its the same with TOR.

>You cant find CP unless you want to (It's easy but it wont get shoveled into your face you have to find it just like, PornHub wont pop-up if youre browsing 4chan or something
>Even if you do look at/download (like me) its nothing special, click download/extract with given password/watch

Absolutely nothing happens at all, its just like downloading webms and images from 4chan except you need to extract them

>>736360132
Like you can find HurtCore CP in 10 seconds from hiddenwiki, i am not even exaggerating

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>>736360128

stoped using tor just before that first big bust (freedom host).
curious but to scared to go back now

>>736361498
Youre literally retarded

>>736361726
why

>>736356626
hes trying to bait you into searching for child porn...

>>736361939
Because youre scared of literally nothing

Ok name 1 person that was caught for CP that DIDNT PRODUCE it and wasnt SNICHED by some who THEY PERSONALLY TOLD AND TRUSTED

someone that was purely caught without any admitting or production of cp, only viewing/downloading

>>736356521
How the fuck is kik a safe way to trade? Might as well use gmail

>>736362550
well the name most recently in the news is jay michaud, one of the hundreds arrested merely for logging into playpen

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Lol am I famous now?

>>736362891
FUCK

>>736362891
I hear them coming for you already, your fucked

>>736362891
you are now fucked

>>736362719
Ah, youre thick

Playpen was an FBI bait, which is soo obvious, unless youre a retard, go to a CP directory list or chat and everyone will point you at what to avoid and what is safe

How did no one catch me for years? I've even pasted the link to my regular chrome to download CP if TOR was slow

>>736362891
V&

>>736362891
Rip

>>736362891
Enjoy your party van

>>736363139
Do you have to use a vpn? Are they even helpful?

>>736363462
>Being this much of a newfag

>>736363139
it wasn't fbi bait originally, only the last couple weeks.
i assume you're speaking of hidden wiki or topic links, it was listed there with no notes about safety.

the theory is that the exploit required user error like leaving javascript on (its on by default) like LC, but since the FBI is dropping cases rather than reveal it, that might not be the case; it could be a deanonymization attack like they contracted carnegie mellon for, or it could be a harder attack on the tor system, an attack on tor browser not requiring JS, or even file-based exploit (there's been reported security bugs that can make media players contact a server just by opening the file). the last one would certainly explain the secrecy, because that's a step even further in cp distro than running the site.

also if you're accessing cp over clearnet you're a fucking retard and the only reason you havent been caught is luck

>>736363462
Listen bud, TOR in itself is a VPN, you cannot be targeted through TOR, unless you download a malicious software and install it, which would be plain retarded

>>736357192
>https://www.wired.com/2017/03/feds-rather-drop-child-porn-case-give-exploit/

Hah, they quoted one of my law school classmates in the Wired article

>>736363636
I wouldn't have asked if I knew what the hell people were talking about. So yes, Im a newfag. Deal with it. Summer is here to stay.

i've only ever heard of flash exploits which is user error, but i wouldn't be surprised if they could track down popular hidden services (not individuals) via traffic analysis

>>736363787
I'm not your bud, pal.

>>736363687
Who said i was accessing cp over clearnet? are you a retard?

Yeah but there was a warning on Topic links when it was discovered, and who leaves JS on? That is plain fucking retarded, if the site requires Scripts on, Leave it, thats what i said about it being obvious, use your brain if you have one

>>736364100
>Who said i was accessing cp over clearnet?

>>736363139
>I've even pasted the link to my regular chrome to download CP if TOR was slow

>>736356626
No. "family nudism" is not illegal. Only if the child is posing sexually.

>>736364023
Well idk what surprises you but that would be extremely fucking surprising to me

>>736364197
>>I've even pasted the link to my regular chrome to download CP if TOR was slow
And by downloading CP i meant Downloading a masked, encrypted zip file with an innocent name, again, use your brain

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>>736364396
a masked encrypted zipfile that's public posted as cp on a cp site with a preview image indicating it's cp with a password given by a known cp distributor.

that's the fucking most moronic thing i've ever heard that someone would think that's ok

fbi sees link on cp site, because they're monitoring them all, then pulls server logs... you're FUCKED when they see a non-tor IP in the logs.
jesus christ and here i was thinking there couldn't possibly be enough idiots making obvious errors to explain the number caught up by playpen, but here you are making me reconsider

>>736363993
Summerfags are basement dwelling oldheads like myself. Use a vpn if you can afford it for every day shit. You cant post here cause literally all vpns are blacklisted

>>736355736
Can you elaborate, pls?

>>736364808
They usually don't set up TOR correctly and leave JS on and shit

>>736355097
How about get a job and don't watch cp

>>736357155
This. A sophisticated enough analysis will work.

>>736364864
Any other stuff to look out for that can catch you out like that? For newbies

All this shit about IPs, nodes, java, scripts, etc. is confusing. It just doesn't seem worth the trouble. How the hell do you know all of this?

>>736364973
Good point, what do pepper do in dark webs besides drugs and cp?

>>736365040
even if you don't look at cp, go to a cp site and read the guides in the security forum, best instructions you'll find for tor opssec

all sorts of gotchas, like shell bags-- did you know windows saves a list of every file you've ever accessed? there's people rotting away in jail right now because of those-- police see it say the filenames make the contents a foregone conclusion, so the court holds you in contempt til you give the password.

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>>736365040
Don't maximize TOR browser, make sure onion links have HTTPS (if they don't stay away). Never give out anything that can be used to trace you. Use TAILS. Don't save any questionable content. By default, Put security level high on TOR Browser (pic related).

>>736355097
>>736365411

Besides CP, drugs, obvious illegal activities and trades, what is TOR used for that is less well known?

Just as trivia

>>736364650
>a known cp distributor.
no
>then pulls server logs... you're FUCKED when they see a non-tor IP in the logs

What server log? pull it up from their ass? they cant pull or view any server logs on TOR, you dumbass

you are literally too stupid to insult someone that has superior networking/IT knowledge compared to you

>>736365040
the media player you use can be a huge risk

if the FBI wanted to, they could prepare a video file in a way that the required codec has to be downloaded from their site, literally calling home from your real IP when you try to watch it.

obviously, most media players have this disabled by default, but VLC for example allows it

>>736365492
holy shit you're dangerously stupid

yes, someone who posts a bunch of cp is a known cp distributor, im not talking about real-life identity, just the username

the server logs on the clearnet download site shit for brains.

>>736365515
Yeah that you have to manually download, implying that the user is this retarded to do that

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>>736365040
>>736365353
>>736365411
>>736365515

Holy shit i didnt expect this to get actual rational answers on this site
I wasn't serious
please dont get me v&....

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How much of a beta virgin do you have to be to look at cp?

>>736365662
>the server logs on the clearnet download site shit for brains.

ok assuming you are by miracle correct, diffrence between tor ip and normal ip? there hundreds of thousands of IPs there, you are such a dumbass kek

>>736365490
As a VPN

>>736365515
Can't you just ban VLC in your firewall

>>736365515
boot tails or whonix and you can't fuck up, boomers/genx are just morons who can't use a computer

>>736365662
let me be a little clearer to try to alleviate your fucking dangerous ignorance.

clearnet download sites are legitimate companies, who will hand over subpoened logs, which most of the retain

the fbi gets the link from the same place you do. they know it's cp, they can prove it's cp because they have the password too

if you have downloaded that file, that is absolutely probable cause for a warrant

by that times its too late, by the time you're being looked at irl you're pretty fucked

>>736365927
what the flying fuck.. your clearnet ip is directly traceable to your house. how do you not know this? the number of people accessing it is the only reason you havent been busted, but rest assured your already known to the fbi by your real name (or your moms name if she pays for your internet).
you're putting yourself at massive risk of losing the 'who should be bust today' lottery

>>736366118
ofc you can, you can also just forbid VLC from ever doing this. the point is that its enabled by default

>>736366118
yup buts that's another user error that people miss

>>736365490
Journalists use it daily to contact people under censorship and the biggest markets on tor are for every day items in places that have embargo enacted on them..

>>736366178
If the FBI was so fucking good at catching people we would all have been fucked at one time or another.

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>>736366178
Ok take me away officer

There is literally nothing these days on tor besides drugs and cp so unless you're interested in fucking your body with drugs or fapping to breastless 3dpd garbage, tor is simply not worth risking any of the abundance of privacy issues.
also
>help:config and disable nearly everything if you're paranoid

>>736357890
You do realise it would take the age of the universe to crack it even with all computation power on Earth? Stop talking shit

>>736366178
and this too, you retard >>736366384

>>736366384
its a lottery. they can only prosecute so many people. cp sites have hundreds of thousands of members.
that doesn't mean it's even remotely ok to access cp from your real ip, and get yourself put on the shortlist.
people who make mistakes as grave as that will eventually be busted, as hundreds per year are

and good KAD networoks?

>>736360128
He's in prison because of a sting operation using social engineering.

>>736366156

is it safe to use tails on a virtual machine on a windows host? or it has to boot on the real computer?

>>736366495
You better be running it through tails, your just asking to get v&

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>>736366178
Wait you can get my ip from 4chan, wanna report me while i watch these kids get anally raped while jerking my throbbing cock?

>>736366832
>windows
Use linuxmeme

>>736366586
>>736366495

wow, ok im done.

keep accessing cp from your real ip, see what happens. give the fbi something to do so they don't go after people that aren't idiots

and jackass with the childsplay forum pic, go ask their security forum if i'm right or if your theory that its ok to access cp from your real ip is just fine. they'll probably ban your ass for being such a dangerous idiot

>>736356763
zw3crggtadila2sg(dot)onion
tor chan. once you get there, lurk, ask rarely, dont spam shit

make a tormail and request someone to email you links via torchan.

dont be dumb, dont login to any public website.dont use any login names/pass that you use anywhere else.

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>>736363636
christ, those digits. nicely done my man

>>736366908
i think i will actually

>>736366867
Running what throught tails? ive been running it on my general PC for years, and what a surprise im not in jail, also if i get banned on 4chan - reset IP = back

>>736357339
they got the hardware power to break 1024bit encryption 2 years ago you dipshit, if you aren't using 2048 by now you are an imbecile.

>>736366941
>real ip
FYI thats tor, shows the extend of your knowledge

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>>736366742
yes but in the trial they brought up the exploit in firefox/tor that is still secret, and thats what apparently did him in. That and ordering like a dozen fakes to your home address isnt that smart.

>>736367021
He is with us anon

>>736366908
i'm legit glad you exist to take the scrutiny off me, you're like the privacy whipping boy

>>736367058
PLEASE I BEG YOU TO keking at this so hard, im invincible :) good luck

>>736365490
I hear there's nice libraries full of books and pirated shit.

anything larger than a text only (book) file would probably be too huge to use on tor.

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>>736367232
yes, i flagged it to 4chan as illegal, which means they'll retain it, then sent the fbi a tip with the links indicating that a user has posted proof they're accessing cp

i mean yeah 99% they'll not follow up.

enjoy the 1% they might

>>736366495
MODS

>>736367341
What's the name of the site? Not really into pizza, just bait.

>>736366355
>>736367377
Seriously props to you two, this is the first actual practical use i've heard that wasn't just CP, drugs, or creepy pasta fuel

Actually some of the best info i found on 4chan right here, i'll keep it in mind

>>736366908
MODS MODS MODS

>>736367595
not telling you cause its illegal