>>734591242 Very interested. What were your experiences? Was it your own life you felt/experienced? What type of drug/drugs induced these feelings? And, were you sober, or within the flow of psychadelics?
>>734591469 I've done my fair share of 'cid, and between moments of euphoria, I have seen/felt/learned from my experiences. But, at no point would I say I've experienced a whole lifetime through myself.
Though, I have been so far out that I referred to myself as 'flowering into the universe' .
>>734591469 First time was under the influence of acid. Lived an eternity in this lagoon like place while various bands played. Sort of like an eternal festival. Felt amazing.
Second was a dream. Met a woman at some sort of retreat/camp/rehab-like place (basically somewhere we didn't want to be) who was my soul mate. The feeling of love I experienced in that dream was something I have never felt about any woman in my real life.
Both experiences fascinate me. I have yet to try DMT but am very interested in doing so in the hopes of experiencing something like this again.
>>734591927 >>734592584 I have never tried DMT myself, but actually found out today that we will be getting some soon . Have you ever done any other psychoactive drugs? How experienced are you regarding LSD?
In the Eternal Lagoon, were you alone? And within your dream, did she have a name?
>>734592882 I have only taken LSD and psilocybin mushrooms but have done both at least 30+ times. Largest dose of LSD I've done was probably in the neighborhood of 6 tabs. In the lagoon I was not alone but the people around me were unknown to me. I remember them looking like the ghost people in spirited away. My entire experience in the lagoon I was so locked in to the music that I didn't focus on the others around me. I do not remember the woman having a name, but I remember her appearance. She looked similar to Jesse's girlfriend in breaking bad. Tall, thin, dark hair, pale skin. She had a large tattoo on her upper left thigh.
It saved my life. Changed the way I was experiencing this life.
I crossed through the veil and understand the interconnectedness of this physical existence. There's no going back from this knowledge. I've since dedicated myself to reading as much as I can on these topics. I am a practicing Buddhist, and meditate daily in an isolation tank. I don't need to do DMT again. I got the lesson. "When you get the message, hang up the phone" (McKenna)
DMT is just one way to tune in. It's a useful spiritual tool, but, don't let it be the only method.
Personally, of all psychedelic experiences, my favorite and most used is the isolation float tank. Let go, further and further, and I can reach the same places as I can with mushrooms. I'm convinced that with enough practice, I can get to DMT-levels of journey.
It isn't the substance, it's the state of mind these things put you in. Yoga, kundalini, DMT, LSD, large amounts of cannabis edibles, etc. - they just tune you in.
You sound ready to do DMT, my brother. Just go in with a pure heart, humble, ready to surrender and for the moment of your death. You get to come back to the body, but, you'll need to let go for a while and let yourself die. They will be so happy you came home. They say "you hardly ever come back!" when they see you. "The gnomes have found a new way to say hooray!"
>>734594726 I'm very glad that you have reached that stage /b/rother.
Very interesting. You have learned what it had to teach you, and through that experience, have learned that you are able to reach enlightenment through spirituality , faith, and personal insight.
After I 'flowered' from my use of LSD, I felt as though I was finally living, for the first time. Free of bonds that have been plaguing me since birth. Finally able to breath, and see as it was meant to be.
I'm fascinated in studies like this as well, to see which components allow you to groe, experience, and learn from a state of spirituality.
How long have you been meditating using chambers? Has it helped you reach a better existance, or opened up your eyes to other paths?
>>734594726 >>734595371 Cont. I suppose. Not to pry, but how old are you friend? I feel as though I have much to learn through your experiences, and insight.
I have never participated in any serious yoda, or meditation, but it has been a tool of the soul for thousands of years. Fascinating that through your journey, it has led you to find these paths yourself, like the Isolation chambers, or buddhism.
>>734596092 No I experienced it once. It was late and I took my usual bowl before bed. I was having trouble sleeping at the time so i took some over the counter sleeping pills. Those fuckers launched me into some sleep paralysis nightmare that all i remember felt "infinite"
>>734596706 >have high school crush >solid 8/10 blonde cutie >few years older than me >never talked to her because spaghetti >years later >have dream with her >in it, it was as though I knew her forever >we dated for what seemed like years >only happiness, only love >everything was so happy >suddenly I realize I was dreaming >i told her i knew i was dreaming >she knew it too >she said she would always love me and we would meet again >dreams could not keep us apart >wake up, sweating and crying Saw her and banged her couple years later. Didn't end up working because I didn't want a long distance relationship. Only time I can say I actually lived out a lifetime and realized it.
>>734597233 I suppose it is true. Even after death, our ashes and bone shall be reclaimed by the Earth, our experiences and memories reabsorbed into what gave us Life in the first place. To live on, through others, but also to be a part of something greater, something infinite.
>>734597604 I'm not that anon, but, isnt it possible your 'life' is perception, memory, emotion, only from one angle? There are billions of humans, and countless other animals and life forms that will never share your version of living.
>>734597604 To live is to die. If you feel your life implies anything more than an eventual death, you are simply identifying with the act of living. You are assuming you are a singular unit in complete isolation from all that surrounds you.
But there's no real reason to do so, beyond your own entertainment and immersion during the experience. It's an act of self-deception to believe your actions reflect your 'will' instead of the 'will' of the universe in which you exist.
>>734597675 That's a rather simplistic view of zen and unity, but you're on the right track. Strive for deeper understanding, it's well worth it.
>>734591242 I was married to the woman of my dreams for almost 10 years until cancer decided to take her away from me...each and every day I relive those years during day dreams or just in flashes out of nowhere, I live through those ten years in what feels like forever but is only moments in reality. I'm not sure if that's what you want to know OP but it's what I have on offer.
>>734592867 >When I woke up I felt like I had lost something.
I have experienced this feeling. I don't remember much of the dream. It was a long time ago. It was a "normal" dream in that I was completely sober at the time (I was 10) though I had been ill with a fever.
I remember growing up and having a family. I remember being happy, my "life" was great. I was a test pilot, flying new and interesting craft. When I woke up, after sleeping right around the clock, I was very sad. I wanted to go back to that life
For a long time, into my late teens, I kept expecting that life to really happen. But it never did, and never will.
There are still times I wonder, though, if maybe that is my life, and what I've lived the last 30 years since then isn't just some coma induced nightmare, because I remember the crash...
>>734598164 I will do my best to learn from my experience. I have much growth left, for this is just a moment within the real story. We are less than a drop, within a mighty ocean. I hope to join its waves, and travel beyond ego, and perception.
>>734598261 Im so sorry brother. Im glad that your time with her reached your heart. and has shown you something. Stay strong, those memories will be with you forever I hope. >>734598461 Im sorry that it is lost to you. But, you remember the feelings, and experiences, so it seems you may learn from it after all. I hope it brings you many answers, and insights for your life. >>734598497 So, all of us humans are one great organism? Perhaps the Earth, or Universe itself is our true form? One of many conciousness, and countless emotions and experience?
>>734598461 >remember the crash. What time period were you in? Early aircraft flight, modern era planes? Just curious. Hold onto those experiences, as strong as you can. You were meant to see , and feel, every bit. I hooe that this is your true life (or rather, both of them are your true lives). Perhaps it was your past, or future. Remember any details of your family, friends, conversations or emotions? How quickly did it feel as though you were aging/experiencing these things?
So far it has not. My life has been nothing like my dream. Since then, the only times I even remember dreaming are when I have been extremely tired, like fallin down tired. Most nights I lie down to sleep and the next thing I know it's time to get up again. I only sleep an average of 4-5 hours a night.
>>734598497 We are all one. Our experiences, emotion, actions, feelings. All for the greater good, and growth. Ego is human perception gone astray, defending individuality, and through ego, we push ourselves further from the truth.
>>734599434 Well, perhaps that life you saw was meant to be a block in the road. You feel as though it was a good/better life than ehat you experience now, but maybe its meant to push you further towards your true goals. Ever aspire to fly? Or be free of this Earths pull?
Maybe it was to show you how truly great it can be. Our actions dictate whathappens in our lives; you were meant to see so you can change your life for the better.
And i hope you begin to dream again brother. it is definitely a gateway to many unexplainable, beautiful things
>>734599228 Time period was mid 70s, so concurrent with real time. (I was 10 in 75)
I remember the airplane was a single-seater and the test was trans-sonic maneuvering when I lost pitch control. A violent pitch excursion occurred and the aircraft broke up in flight. I redded out but came to just in time to eject from what was left of the cockpit. The jolt of hitting the ground woke 10-year-old me.
I still don't remember the actual aircraft. It was something radical, nothing like we have today. Some serious x-plane development. Purely a research craft is my feeling on it. I've searched and searched for something that would "fit" but have never found anything that matches.
>>734599900 Interesting. So, we are trapped within our ego, but, we must use it to reach beyond ourselves, to understand and grow. Makes sense. We use how we feel to judge our actions towards others, so the ego helps us understand those emotions
>>734599879 > Ever aspire to fly? Or be free of this Earths pull?
Are you kidding? I used to have "flying" dreams almost nightly when I was a boy and young teen. I've followed aviation since I was 6 and flew my first free flight model airplane. I've flown models and desktop sims since.
But I'm in my 50s now. I'm never gonna be a test pilot. I'm too old and too broken from a life of hard, manual labor. I'm also too poor to fly anything but models and even those are a stretch. At this point I doubt I could pass an FAA physical so even General Aviation is out of my reach.
I'd give anything to live that life. I need King's "Word Processor of the Gods" to get it though.
>>734600381 Wow, incredible detail. Fascinating youre able to remember it after such a long time.
Perhaps his life was meant to give you knowledge. To learn from his mistakes or actions. Or maybe that it was a life you shared. It seems that his death from the accident is what sent you such emotions, and feelings.
Never forget those memories. God himself could have shown you another one of your lives, or perhaps a different timeline all together.
>>734600837 You don't have to give anything for it friend. You have already learned/felt/experienced what it had to show you. I hope it was a glimpse into your next life, so you may enjoy it, and truly live it again.
Time is part of perception. This may be your first journey, or your thousandth. Do not give up hope yet /b/rother, this is just one of many.
>>734601024 I don't think he/I died. Close to it, though.
The Air Force probably spent a fortune fixing him/me up. 5 or 6 million dollars at the very least, to buy the latest prosthetics. Real bleeding edge of technology type stuff. But I'm betting they could rebuild him/me. Make him stronger, faster, better than before. Then put him to work at the Office of Special Investigations as an undercover agent.
That's the kind of stuff 10-year-old me would imagine.
>>734600837 I appreciate your answer and insight. It has been a pleasure to speak with you, and learn from your experience. I hope that your next experiences allow you to grow, and learn more than ever before
I've never experienced real love for someone up until my first mushroom trip. After the colourful images from the search of singularity faded I found myself living with a woman who consisted of two girls I knew. We lived a peaceful life with children in a small house. It felt amazing having this life and I swore to do everything to make it happen. In the morning I realized what I had to do in order to achieve this utopia and decided to go with it. Two months later I had a wonderful time with one of those two girls at a party. Later that night she hooked up with one of my best m8s and the plummeting into the dark abyss of depression began again. I rejected the plans I worked out and have nothing to live for except expectations of others. But that is life with it's ups and downs. Having your life circle around one goal impossible to achieve is not the right path. Live your dreams. Or at least try to.
>>734601825 Time is a human reference point; us doing our best to describe the ever changing landscapes around us. Within a dream, or higher state of conciousness, one can lose the grip of time, causing something to seem 'infinite', 'endless' or 'eternal'. I have felt such a sensation on 2 different occasions, with use of LSD and deep thought. The universe is ever expanding, so through that, we can determine that time is endless as well, in a manner of speaking.
LSD is overrated. Ingesting mushrooms (make sure u chew it well with whatever food u want, or just shroom) is all natural not some chem lab test shit and u cant od. you'll just throw up if you take too heavy a dose and pass out or something. i ate 3gs earlier tonight in a sandwich and was blowing coke and weed all night and come down is great
>>734601940 Perhaps the love you experienced was only to open your heart to the possibilities. There are endless answers to unasked questions. If you got with her, would your life truly become so perfect? Or maybe it was to let you grow , and move past those dreams.
>>734602132 not a problem, just very glad the dream was true. I wish I could see your memories to truly understand. I've never felt such a detailed memory from a different existance. >>734602281 I'd say youre closer than his guess. We are doing our best to see life from many angles, and learn from it, rather than trying to be several people we are not. >>734602302 Glad youre enjoying it. Shrooms are tough on my body personally. Shrooms generally grow my attachment towards nature, and Earth, where LSD allows me to be more introspective, and find answers to the questions of ego and spirituality.
>>734602760 yea these shrooms are so intense its almost like acid with the after effects i ended up going from a weird visual trip of boogie nights in different parts to conscious thinking and of my own ego
>>734603011 Well, that would imply those are my beliefs. I am not the anon who you originally spoke with. At no point have I said that I am two people, or able to traverse other dimensions. Rather, we are doing our best to understand the world through more than a single lens.
>>734602760 acid is almost the same type of thing for me shrooms are different each time my last dose took almost 2 hrs to have any effect but i ate same amt with food having only eaten breakfast and hit me out of nowhere in about 15 mins
>>734603129 Well, happy you could enjoy the flow /b/rother. May it bring you great lessons, and help you understand more and more as you continue to grow. I'd direct you above, this thread has been littered with me philosophising about ego, perception, memory, and more. >>734603139 Seems to be a little late. I've only been using psychedelics within the past year or so, but it has changed my perception, and some of my thought processes for what id say was the better.
>>734602760 > I've never felt such a detailed memory from a different existance.
Well this is looking back 40 some years ago. Memories are funny things. I clearly remember the crash, the ejection and the landing. I didn't learn till later in my life what red-out was but I remember that happening. That only happens with violent, negative pitch maneuvers. I know the craft broke up because I could see ground between my feet before grabbing the "Oh SHIT!" handles between my knees. Other details are very fuzzy, like type of aircraft, actual details of my family. I know I had one in the dream because I was concerned about them just before hitting the ground.
>>734603300 >Try science. Well rounded argument, friendo. I've read a fair share on psychadelics and spirituality. You, on the other hand, are arguing about how our spirituality and thoughts about our experiences clearly define our struggle with Schizophrenia. >1/10, I replied . (You) >>734603530 Yeah, do your best friend. >>734603577 Your experiences are so clear, its beautiful. To know you had a family, and feel the emotions of losing them in that instant. To know that it could be the end, but your thoughts are on them.
>>734603576 Used to do acid and shrooms on a regular basis. Though some significant insights can be taken away from the experience they're still only drugs. The psychedelic experience is a way to break down some of the conditioning instilled in people though. It's a good tool if you want to learn how to think for yourself
>>734604225 >Though some significant insights can be taken away from the experience they're still only drugs thats where people come in with psuedo spiritualism and speaking of shamanism and such. is that too far fetched to believe or when we come down we just have ot accept we can no longer achieve that state of conciousness
>>734604170 interesting. I am not that anon, but I've been pulling the thread since the start, and he seemed quite confident that he was able to reach these points through meditation, yoga, and use of these pods. But, I suppose everyone has their differences, and faith/belief can helo them become true as well. >>734604225 I agree, psychadelics are a great tool to look deeper within oneself, and answer questions that might not be on a regular scale. The euohoria, and phsyical sensations, are the drug, but, what about the noted sense of higher conciousness, and spirituality? >>734604264 Im 6'0", 255 lbs-ish. Semi-regular psychadelic usage throughout the last year.
>>734591242 in a dream yes, several times. had a dream where i experience a whole life, fell in love with someone i never met, and fought in a war that i never trained for last night. Tbh i enjoy sleeping because of the adventures my dreams lead me into believing. Sometimes i wish we can be put to sleep forever in a lucid dream.
>>734604366 Really depends. Never saw the point in making a lifestyle out of it. True shamanism is nearly gone from the world, and tripping all the time doesn't make you one. You get these kids who experience psychedelics for the first time and it blows them away, but to claim they're making you enlightened is foolish. Thats what charlatans like Tim Leary preached. Etheogens are very powerful and shouldn't be taken lightly
>>734604366 my belief is that it is a state that can be achieved through many forms. Ahuashca and other psycoactive components have been used in rituals / ceremonies for over a thodand years. But, meditation, fasting, hypnotism, and more can lead towards the line of spirituality as well. I think it depends on the person, their environment, their true mental state, and force of will that could change these things.
>>734604904 interesting. Do you dream often? are your dreams usually quite intense? And any details? time period, location, what kind of war? Was it yourself, or the life of another person you were glimpsing through? anything else? You said you were deeply in love, did you still feel these emotions as you awoke? Dreams are a window into something interesting and beautiful. >>734604935 I agree. Shamanism is all but a memory within our world. Enlightenment is a stage that very few have achieved, but perhaps psychadelics allow the mind to open up the doorway. Id also agree that they can be quite intense, or even overwhelming/misleading. You have to accept the lesson to truly learn and grow from it, and many believe that they are 'awaken' before they have even opened their eyes.
>>734605029 Hmm, a lot to think about. Well, if I were to make a far overstretched assumption, id say that you were meant to see it, and remember it. Perhaps it was God, or another life, or even another world. But, it is clear you were meant to remember, and feel, and learn something from it. The brain can do a lot of things, but fully fabricated existance, family, emotions, sensations, thoughts;thats quite a lot. Carryon with these thoughts, and don't let them go. Maybe your future, or your past, perhaps a different galaxy, or even just a beautiful dream. Whichever it was, it was meant to be.
>>734606121 Enlightenment isnt simply about achieving it, but to experience and live by its example. If you feel the need to ask why try it, then it might never give you the answer you seek. Everyone is different, and thus, it is different for everyone. Some would say they need it, and some wouldnt understand it. It is a fine line between spirituality, peace, and understanding, and in the end, it is there to allow us to grow, and learn.
>>734606826 I wish I had some I could send to you, all out atm. And agreed, I wasnt OP, but this has been the longest lasting and most profound thread I've ever had the joy to be involved in. I've been the one asking every question, and doing deep philosophising for almost 3 hours . Thanks for joining /b/rother
>>734606490 After a while numbing the pain is all you know how to do. The pain goes from hurting your you, to becoming you. Waking up and hating yourself because you made all these descisions. You go to bed thinking pf every single regret. You are only,ever content in those few hours of true nothingness. That is when you are too far gone, when the void is better then reality. When a lack of feeling is better than what you actually feel. To have to void be your only escape is to accept death without dying.
>>734607731 I hope that true happiness finds its way into your heart brother. The past haunts us all,with regret,pain, and loss. Tomorrow is a new day. Choices you make now can change the future you have ahead.Every decision is a glimpse into tomorrow. Through time, I hope the pain fades. The void can listen to your screams, but it cannot answer back. Answers it has are locked beyond a door we cannot yet open. Stay strong /b/rother
Seems to be the end for now /b/rothers. Rest well, may your dreams bring you peace. Perhaps I'll stir up another thread tomorrow, but until then, time for rest. A long strange trip indeed, may it continue tomorrow. Goodnight /b/rethren
>>734591242 During my ego death trip I stood for 20 years living every memory with every person I'd ever met. Learned the positives and negatives of my mind, exploded into a universe and came back through a shower drain. All in about 2 minutes on 10 hits of acid
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