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How fucked we are?

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Only a fool would take anything posted here as fact.

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How fucked we are?
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>>734481679
Hopefully enough to start over.
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Not much tbqh. The US economy will collapse soon enough with or without climate change.
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>>734481823
>The US economy will collapse soon enough with or without climate change
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>>734481679
It could have been a fuck lot worse.
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>>734482247
Sanctions for pulling out of climate deal.
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>>734482407
Lol what fucking sanctions?
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>>734481679
honestly it's irrelevant. global trends have already killed coal and are already killing oil. In the next 3 years China will build more new solar energy production than ALL the solar power currently in use in the U.S.

The only real effect of this decision today is to destroy America's credibility as a world leader.

China became the leader of the world today.
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>>734482679
BWAHAHAHAHA

Fucking good one.
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>>734481679
Very unfucced
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>>734482340
Nigga, get off that shit. We already know the Clinton emails were fucking planted.
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>>734481679
Lol it's not like we're going to ramp up emissions now that America is out. It's just the same as we were a month ago and leaving it to technology to develop
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>>734482679
The largest problem with solar energy is the vast amount of rare earth metals needed to produce them compared with their relative inefficiency it harnessing power from sunlight.

Nuclear energy will still be the front runner in power for many years to come until we can successfully build fusion reactors.
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>>734481679
Not even a little bit, the Agreement itself doesn't do much and just gives the UN more of an excuse to funnel money into the hands of Oligarchs. You know how you need to check how much of the money you donate to a charity goes to the people in need instead of to "administrative" costs? It's kind of like that, except the US pays for most of it while China doesn't give a flying fuck. In 2015 they have an outline to them agreeing to some of the Paris outlines, but knowing China they aren't actually going to do shit.
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>>734482837
"we know"

Nice citation there mister
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since i was a little kid they have been on the climate change shit
by now .. the ozone is supposed to be gone
The ice caps are supposed to be melted
the air is supposed to be poison
the soil is supposed to be radioactive
there is supposed to be world wide famine
90% percent of wildlife is supposed to be extinct
for decades they have been harping on this shit ...and we are still here
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>>734482980
>The largest problem with solar energy is the vast amount of rare earth metals needed to produce them
Yes
>Nuclear energy will still be the front runner
You do realize fissable uranium is one of those rare earth metals you speak of right?
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>>734482980
>Fusion reactors
>A global reality

So /b/, when did you grow up and realize that the world is more complicated than your star trek fantasies?

>Bruh we gonna colonize the moon to extract helium 3
>Fucking space travel n shit
>Haven't you seen the Martian yet bruh?
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>>734482407
It wasn't a deal you fucking tard. It was optional. There will be absolutely zero repercussions. This is the problem with you liberal fucks. You know nothing. You're too lazy to take the time to actually read anything that is truthful. You just turn to CNN and MSNBC and see the fags Anderson Cooper and Rachel Maddow screaming "Trump is going to kill us all!!!!!" and that is what you believe is the reality. Maybe if you actually took the time to read the Paris Accord, you would know that it is not actually beneficial to climate, and benefits only India and the UK in creating more jobs for them, while taking jobs away from the U.S. - You're a fucking idiot.
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>>734483157
But bruh we can just extract H3 on da moon for fusion plants
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>>734481679

Basically, all liberals should kill themselves. It's for the best. Otherwise, stop bitching before you get bitch slapped.
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>>734483441
I need nudes you fucking bot. At least spam gore/traps in /b/ fashion
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>>734483157
Whoa you don't say?

The difference is that Uranium, plutonium and other fissionable elements are easily the most energy efficient power supplies we have. That does not mean that when they run out that bullshit green technology will be the answer. Like I said, fusion is our only hope for the future.
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>>734482837
Nigga,put the pipe down.
Seth rich gave wikileaks the emails and the DNC fired that jew bitch over the info that came out.they never denied the info in the emails wasn't true.
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>>734483209
Fusion isn't a pipe dream and we can do it right now. The only problem we have is finding a way to make more energy than we are producing and while we aren't there yet we are closer than we have ever been.
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>>734481679
Im just glad the stress of the job is going to kill him soon
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>>734483530
Or maybe we should institute strict population control mechanisms and eugenics to keep the population of humans from exceeding environmental capabilities?

Jus sayin, maybe Malthus wasn't wrong after all.
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>>734483674
>We can do it

Doesn't mean

>We can do it reliably on a mass scale given the current political situation of the world
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>>734483737
Or we could try the sane solutions first you fucking psychopath.
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>>734483737
Doesn't japanese do that already?
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>>734481679
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>>734483530
The future is in diversification solar, hydroelectric, tidal, wind, geothermal, etc. plus those are more feasible atm than fusion. Although I do hope it happens
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>>734482340
>Citing townhall as a reputable source of information
lmao
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>>734483241
>benefits only India and the UK in creating more jobs for them
hahahahaahahaaha holy shit, these retards really believe this

> It was optional. There will be absolutely zero repercussions.
How can you get the basic facts right (that the deal is optional) and completely fuck up the analysis?
Yes, the deal is optional. Which is why it would have cost the U.S. absolutely NOTHING to stay in the deal. They could just choose to ignore all of the provisions of the agreement. The only thing leaving Paris does is spit on the rest of the world. Literally zero benefit to the U.S.

It's just aggressive stupidity. No rational explanation.
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>>734483834
There has always been someone like you who refuses to believe in the possibility of future technologies and the people like you are always proven wrong eventually.
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>>734483844
>Psychopath

The only way to maintain populations at their current rates is going to mean war, famine, conflict, etc that eventually leads to a Brave New World scenario. I'd rather not live like that desu.

Population control does not mean "murder people" it means "stop certain low IQ populations from breeding"
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It's literally fucking nothing.

People are losing their shit because:

1. CNN said it's bad
2. Another reason to hate Trump
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>>734483241

So what do you read that keeps you so informed?
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im a BIG FUCKING COFEFEEEE HAHA ACOVFEFEEE U FUCKING NIGGER THAT S WHY I AM A COVFEFEFE COVVVV FEFEFEFEFEFEFE!!!!!!!!!!! FEEEEEEEEEEFEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE COVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVFEFE
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>>734484021
It will never happen, simple as that
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>>734484021
Repubs are anti abortions
good luck with that
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>>734483859
Not that's China. Japan just reached it's saturation point for population and is slowly declining, which based on what studies we have on over population, means that they are reducing their numbers naturally.

It probably won't be a eugenic process , however.
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>>734483975
>It costs nothing

Bwahahaha liberals just think shit is free
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>>734481679
We are okay. It's your kids and grandkids that are doomed to living a life similar to mad max.
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>>734482679
>Solar
>doesnt work at night, not efficent in rain, covered in snow, winter when the days are short and the sun is lower, etc
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>>734484231
>Bwahahaha liberals just think shit is free
If you stay in the deal and ignore all the requirements you get exactly the same result as leaving the deal -- zero cost.
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>>734483985
When have people like me ever been proven wrong

>Industrialization will lead to brutal warfare in future
>Lol no it won't you idio- *20th century begins, humanity invents nukes*

In the 19th century, the future was supposed to be flying cities on wings and hot air balloons, with automation leaving out all harms from life possible. Then the 20th happened to blow that reality apart.
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>>734484136
>Be repub

I'm not, mostly because half of all abortions are low IQ. Keep em coming desu. Too bad liberals just hate responsibility and children abortion then becomes somewhat dysgenic.
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>>734484110
It will happen by choice or by consequential force.
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>>734483157
You do realize ounce for ounce of uranium vs solar panel elements, uranium produces much greater output then solar right? Plus it works 24/7 not just during the day
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>>734481679
You'd be more fucked if Pence was in office
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>>734484444
>If you stay in the deal but don't do anything the deal requires then it doesn't matter

Listen to yourself m8
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>>734484705
Also when it meets incompetence it leads to Fukushima and Chernobyl but you know whatever. I like the Stalker games , we can do that.
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>>734483674
We cannot do fussion right now. Just stop with the lies. Oh and dont link an article that scientists did fussion for 1 billionth of a second using 10 trillion times the energy it produced
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>>734481679
Economy will tank
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>>734484705
You do realize less than 0.1% of uranium mined is the radioactive isotope needed right?
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>>734484934
So slowly polluting the world is better?
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>>734484705

You ever hear of batteries?
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>>734481679
You're fucked. not me
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>>734484990
And the point of this unsourced tidbit?
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>>734485061
You're polluting the world either way. As populations grow they always require more power, more consumption, etc. On a mass scale nuclear power would be disastrous.
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>>734482407
The U.N. security council would need to approve sanctions. The US has a veto. So nothing will happen. Just like global warming as a whole.
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>>734485116
And that changes how efficent nuclear vs solar is how?
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>>734485177
>mass scale nuclear power would be disastrous.
Except it is being used on a mass scale. Nearly 1/10th the worlds power is nuclear
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>>734485300

It was a reference to the "it only works at night" comment.

Solar power is never ending and doesn't destroy cities when things break.
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Great article for anyone who cares to read...

https://www.infowars.com/historic-trump-rejects-paris-climate-treaty/
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>>734485174
It's costly and labor intensive to enrich uranium

Sorry I was wrong only 0.7% is u-235
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uranium-235
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>>734481679
About as fucked as we've been, Trump's nationalist agenda isn't a huge departure from Obama's neoliberal one. They are both capitalists, after all.
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>>734485499
No it depleats the earth of resources, polutes the air, water, and landfills, creates toxic waste from old batteries. Sounds like a green solution to me.
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>>734485534

>Infowars
>Great article

Grow up
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>>734481679
AHAHAHAHA good one bro post this on /pol/
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>>734485534
>he doesn't know global warming eventually leads to another ice age
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>>734485628
And still nuclear energy is cheaper per kilowatt then solar.....
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>>734481679

We're still here and this beautiful cleanser hasn't happened yet. So we're still in the fucked world OP sorry :(.
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>>734485649

We're not talking about Duracells here. Please explain how solar power pollutes.
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>>734485476
If it was 1/2 and phased out solar and coal, you would see mass scale incompetence and more nuclear leaks and disasters. Not to mention what will happen will places like that get bombed eventually.
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>>734483131
THIS.
Every fucking year they keep pushing the goal posts back.

I can remember these fuckers from when I was in high school saying if we don't do anything by 1995 it will already be to late. Then Al Gore and his bullshit in 2006 saying new York would be under water in ten years.

Climate Change is a religion. And every Armageddon prediction that passes with out event just leads to a new one and no one ever questions it.
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>>734481679
We are all going to be just fine.

Humans are finished though... but thats fine too. The only thing we are most similar to in nature is cancer, so thats probably a good thing.
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>>734485732
Sauce

>>734485649
>Radioactive waste
>Spent fuel rods
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>>734482980
And who does america buy most rare earth metals it cant harvest itself from? China already has planty of them
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>>734485861
>In your 30's
>Browsing /b/

What went wrong in your life?
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>>734485781
Panels themselves pollute during manufacturing and the mining to get the raw materials. Also when they break. Batteries are even worse and have a shorter life.
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>>734485859
Oh ok. And if everyone had solar people will die when the sun is blocked by an alien invasion
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>>734481679
Jeesus Christ! AGW is not real. CO2 is not a pollutant. CO2 can't even change the temperature. A paper was just published that proves that the "greenhouse effect" and "greenhouse gasses" can't possibly even happen in an open system and in our circumstance.
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>>734484462
>>734484485
>>734484498
>>734484435
Who is this, based anon?
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>>734481679
This Paris Accord is just another libtard invention because it they don't have some retarded cause to rally behind, they quickly realize how fucking useless they are. All I want my government to do is responsibly use tax money to maintain infrastructure and keep law and order, don't fuck with my freedom with your fucking hair braided schemes. The libtard movent is literally a cancer on the world, designed to make you feel bad about every fucking thing you do. Climate change is going to happen with or without human beings, get that through you thick fucking skulls already. If every human being disappeared tomorrow, the climate wood continue to do what is doing now. The net effect of the human component of co2 is so fucking miniscule that it's barely measurable. You dumb fucks better get ready for the real problem which will be the grand solar minimum. Learn to actually understand this stuff and realize the loads of bullshit being slung on the news.
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>>734485861

Here's the way I look at it: What if climate change isn't real and we try to use renewable energy anyway? Because if it is real and we ignore it the world is permanently ruined for a large portion of humanity. Until there is definitive proof either way I say we hedge our bets.
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>>734486194
>When you try to reductio ad absurdum but end up making yourself look like a fool

Except nuclear disasters have actually happened and will continue to happen , especially if there are any major conflicts in the 21st century (I'm pretty sure there will)

Maybe your whole utopian fantasy is just unrealistic?
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>>734485732
Kek, in some energy markets you sell your excess energy to the grid. With solar you can elimate your electric bill and get paid. Nuclear won't do that for you
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>>734486023
maybe you'll be able to tell us some years from now.
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>>734486312
You are right. I am going to listen some guy from the interenet than those studies, documentals and science research webs and say global warming is just a chinese lie
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>>734486499
There is tons of proof that it isn't real. There is a bunch of Marxist libtards that throw hockey-stick charts around and make shit up without a single piece of proof.
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lol at the sjws that think climate change is real. Answer me this, how could Trump and the tens of millions of people who support him ALL be wrong?
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>>734485499
The simple math of it is this. Nuclear power is better than coal and is proven technology.

If any of you fucks cared more about the environment than the optics of power plan we would have scrapped every coal plant for nuclear 20 years ago and co2 emitions would be 20 percent of what they are now.
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>>734486519
>nuclear disasters have actually happened
3 major disasters since the first power plant went online in the 1950s. Nuclear has a much safer history than any other power source.
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>>734486692
All countries except 3 are in the Paris agreement
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>>734486650

How do you prove something isn't real?
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>>734486236
>>734486499
>>734486600

http://notrickszone.com/
Read, For days.
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>>734486915
And the other nations aside america are fucking Syria and Nicaragua
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>>734486312
I honestly can't tell if you're a retard, a troll, or have some agenda.
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>>734486915
I bet this is one of those lunatic lefties that wants net neutrality too
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>>734486877
Mostly because they have been strict controlled and actually aren't as mass scale as people think?

All it takes is some natural disasters and warfare and an entire area is virtually uninhabitable for centuries. Pretty sure the generation of solar power doesn't do that, but then again pretty sure that it's retarded to expand our population ad infinitum and not expect major consequences.
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>>734486921
Well, not in that manner, but every single thing these 74 "scientists" have said has been disproven.
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>>734483975
My god you're an insufferable twat.

If you actually had any substance to your rebuttal I might actually consider arguing the fact that AGREEING TO SOMETHING MEANS YOU WILL DO IT. Yea it's optional to agree but once you do and then reneg on it you look like an even bigger asshole then if you just said no to begin with.
Fuck off you no nothing libtard
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>>734486600
Have you read and understood those published papers? Or are you taking the word of some crackpot former cartoonist who thinks he's a scientist and published some incredibly flawed survey of scientists that everyone thinks it's some fucking gospel? Why is it in the Mark steyn v Michael man lawsuit, mister hockey stick won't share his data? You know why? Because it's so cooked that he would be the laughing stock of the scientific community, plus he wouldn't be able to suckle on the government test that signs his paycheck. Go back to school fuckhead.
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>>734486023
Sorry son, some old fags are actually old.
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>>734487026
I suspect you can't tell a lot of things you cretin.
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>>734485867
Shit. Asian spam.
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>>734483824
martin skrelli is the only man in the pharmaceutical game that cares about the people. much like how trump is one of the only leaders that cares about the people.
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>>734487084
Yes they are strictly controlled, that's part of the good things. And the fact that aren't used on a more mass scale doesn't contribute to their safety. If we expanded generation of nuclear power at the same safety requirements we currently existing ones too we'd see the same level of safety. The only reason nuclear isn't more common is because idiots like you lost your minds after similar idiots at 3 Mile Island ignored safety protocol and fucked things up.
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>>734486964

Is this asshole really trying to disprove climate change by testing in an actual greenhouse due to the phrase "greenhouse gas"?
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>>734487302
I forgot child in that list
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>>734486535
>BUT MUH PERSONAL PROFIT
Not the guy you're replying to but holy shit you americans literally do not give a flying fuck about anything or anyone other than yourselves.

If it would cost you an extra cent to keep your daughter/son alive you'd probably fucking strangle them yourselves.
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