>The US economy will collapse soon enough with or without climate change
It could have been a fuck lot worse.
honestly it's irrelevant. global trends have already killed coal and are already killing oil. In the next 3 years China will build more new solar energy production than ALL the solar power currently in use in the U.S.
The only real effect of this decision today is to destroy America's credibility as a world leader.
China became the leader of the world today.
The largest problem with solar energy is the vast amount of rare earth metals needed to produce them compared with their relative inefficiency it harnessing power from sunlight.
Nuclear energy will still be the front runner in power for many years to come until we can successfully build fusion reactors.
Not even a little bit, the Agreement itself doesn't do much and just gives the UN more of an excuse to funnel money into the hands of Oligarchs. You know how you need to check how much of the money you donate to a charity goes to the people in need instead of to "administrative" costs? It's kind of like that, except the US pays for most of it while China doesn't give a flying fuck. In 2015 they have an outline to them agreeing to some of the Paris outlines, but knowing China they aren't actually going to do shit.
since i was a little kid they have been on the climate change shit
by now .. the ozone is supposed to be gone
The ice caps are supposed to be melted
the air is supposed to be poison
the soil is supposed to be radioactive
there is supposed to be world wide famine
90% percent of wildlife is supposed to be extinct
for decades they have been harping on this shit ...and we are still here
>The largest problem with solar energy is the vast amount of rare earth metals needed to produce them
>Nuclear energy will still be the front runner
You do realize fissable uranium is one of those rare earth metals you speak of right?
>A global reality
So /b/, when did you grow up and realize that the world is more complicated than your star trek fantasies?
>Bruh we gonna colonize the moon to extract helium 3
>Fucking space travel n shit
>Haven't you seen the Martian yet bruh?
It wasn't a deal you fucking tard. It was optional. There will be absolutely zero repercussions. This is the problem with you liberal fucks. You know nothing. You're too lazy to take the time to actually read anything that is truthful. You just turn to CNN and MSNBC and see the fags Anderson Cooper and Rachel Maddow screaming "Trump is going to kill us all!!!!!" and that is what you believe is the reality. Maybe if you actually took the time to read the Paris Accord, you would know that it is not actually beneficial to climate, and benefits only India and the UK in creating more jobs for them, while taking jobs away from the U.S. - You're a fucking idiot.
Whoa you don't say?
The difference is that Uranium, plutonium and other fissionable elements are easily the most energy efficient power supplies we have. That does not mean that when they run out that bullshit green technology will be the answer. Like I said, fusion is our only hope for the future.
Fusion isn't a pipe dream and we can do it right now. The only problem we have is finding a way to make more energy than we are producing and while we aren't there yet we are closer than we have ever been.
Or maybe we should institute strict population control mechanisms and eugenics to keep the population of humans from exceeding environmental capabilities?
Jus sayin, maybe Malthus wasn't wrong after all.
>benefits only India and the UK in creating more jobs for them
hahahahaahahaaha holy shit, these retards really believe this
> It was optional. There will be absolutely zero repercussions.
How can you get the basic facts right (that the deal is optional) and completely fuck up the analysis?
Yes, the deal is optional. Which is why it would have cost the U.S. absolutely NOTHING to stay in the deal. They could just choose to ignore all of the provisions of the agreement. The only thing leaving Paris does is spit on the rest of the world. Literally zero benefit to the U.S.
It's just aggressive stupidity. No rational explanation.
The only way to maintain populations at their current rates is going to mean war, famine, conflict, etc that eventually leads to a Brave New World scenario. I'd rather not live like that desu.
Population control does not mean "murder people" it means "stop certain low IQ populations from breeding"
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Not that's China. Japan just reached it's saturation point for population and is slowly declining, which based on what studies we have on over population, means that they are reducing their numbers naturally.
It probably won't be a eugenic process , however.
When have people like me ever been proven wrong
>Industrialization will lead to brutal warfare in future
>Lol no it won't you idio- *20th century begins, humanity invents nukes*
In the 19th century, the future was supposed to be flying cities on wings and hot air balloons, with automation leaving out all harms from life possible. Then the 20th happened to blow that reality apart.
I'm not, mostly because half of all abortions are low IQ. Keep em coming desu. Too bad liberals just hate responsibility and children abortion then becomes somewhat dysgenic.
We cannot do fussion right now. Just stop with the lies. Oh and dont link an article that scientists did fussion for 1 billionth of a second using 10 trillion times the energy it produced
Great article for anyone who cares to read...
About as fucked as we've been, Trump's nationalist agenda isn't a huge departure from Obama's neoliberal one. They are both capitalists, after all.
We're still here and this beautiful cleanser hasn't happened yet. So we're still in the fucked world OP sorry :(.
If it was 1/2 and phased out solar and coal, you would see mass scale incompetence and more nuclear leaks and disasters. Not to mention what will happen will places like that get bombed eventually.
Every fucking year they keep pushing the goal posts back.
I can remember these fuckers from when I was in high school saying if we don't do anything by 1995 it will already be to late. Then Al Gore and his bullshit in 2006 saying new York would be under water in ten years.
Climate Change is a religion. And every Armageddon prediction that passes with out event just leads to a new one and no one ever questions it.
Jeesus Christ! AGW is not real. CO2 is not a pollutant. CO2 can't even change the temperature. A paper was just published that proves that the "greenhouse effect" and "greenhouse gasses" can't possibly even happen in an open system and in our circumstance.
This Paris Accord is just another libtard invention because it they don't have some retarded cause to rally behind, they quickly realize how fucking useless they are. All I want my government to do is responsibly use tax money to maintain infrastructure and keep law and order, don't fuck with my freedom with your fucking hair braided schemes. The libtard movent is literally a cancer on the world, designed to make you feel bad about every fucking thing you do. Climate change is going to happen with or without human beings, get that through you thick fucking skulls already. If every human being disappeared tomorrow, the climate wood continue to do what is doing now. The net effect of the human component of co2 is so fucking miniscule that it's barely measurable. You dumb fucks better get ready for the real problem which will be the grand solar minimum. Learn to actually understand this stuff and realize the loads of bullshit being slung on the news.
Here's the way I look at it: What if climate change isn't real and we try to use renewable energy anyway? Because if it is real and we ignore it the world is permanently ruined for a large portion of humanity. Until there is definitive proof either way I say we hedge our bets.
>When you try to reductio ad absurdum but end up making yourself look like a fool
Except nuclear disasters have actually happened and will continue to happen , especially if there are any major conflicts in the 21st century (I'm pretty sure there will)
Maybe your whole utopian fantasy is just unrealistic?
The simple math of it is this. Nuclear power is better than coal and is proven technology.
If any of you fucks cared more about the environment than the optics of power plan we would have scrapped every coal plant for nuclear 20 years ago and co2 emitions would be 20 percent of what they are now.
Mostly because they have been strict controlled and actually aren't as mass scale as people think?
All it takes is some natural disasters and warfare and an entire area is virtually uninhabitable for centuries. Pretty sure the generation of solar power doesn't do that, but then again pretty sure that it's retarded to expand our population ad infinitum and not expect major consequences.
My god you're an insufferable twat.
If you actually had any substance to your rebuttal I might actually consider arguing the fact that AGREEING TO SOMETHING MEANS YOU WILL DO IT. Yea it's optional to agree but once you do and then reneg on it you look like an even bigger asshole then if you just said no to begin with.
Fuck off you no nothing libtard
Have you read and understood those published papers? Or are you taking the word of some crackpot former cartoonist who thinks he's a scientist and published some incredibly flawed survey of scientists that everyone thinks it's some fucking gospel? Why is it in the Mark steyn v Michael man lawsuit, mister hockey stick won't share his data? You know why? Because it's so cooked that he would be the laughing stock of the scientific community, plus he wouldn't be able to suckle on the government test that signs his paycheck. Go back to school fuckhead.
Yes they are strictly controlled, that's part of the good things. And the fact that aren't used on a more mass scale doesn't contribute to their safety. If we expanded generation of nuclear power at the same safety requirements we currently existing ones too we'd see the same level of safety. The only reason nuclear isn't more common is because idiots like you lost your minds after similar idiots at 3 Mile Island ignored safety protocol and fucked things up.
>BUT MUH PERSONAL PROFIT
Not the guy you're replying to but holy shit you americans literally do not give a flying fuck about anything or anyone other than yourselves.
If it would cost you an extra cent to keep your daughter/son alive you'd probably fucking strangle them yourselves.