>>734447509 Unlucky cherub It's a shame you can't have them shitty freezing desolate rocks in the southern Atlantic for all they're just off your coast. Such a nice name you have for that little shithole. Suppose we might as well keep the cunts cos of all that oil and natural gas around them
I don't know why people are focusing on who will be PM. It's fucking meaningless. We didn't vote for May or Brown but they've both ended up PM. The party/house majority is what matters. Vote for the party you think will look after you. So unless you're cunting minted, it's Labour.
You sir are a gentleman and a scholar. The few times I've been out in Albert Road it's been largely over 30s, any particular pubs. Will check out Popworld, had assumed it would be full of chavs with a name like that, but I can put up with a few dickheads if the ratio is decent.
Tony Blare and Gordon Brown took the UK to the edge of going bankrupt. Gordon sold all of our gold, was borrowing so much that we went over 52 billion in debt. Not only that but when the torys got in after Gordon, labor had left a note for the new tory treasurer saying "Sorry, all the moneys gone" - So the torys did a load of cut backs to save money and pay our debts - 12 years later, still in debt, people hate the torys for cleaning and still cleaning labors mess - If labor get in were fucked
>>734455166 >Welcome hard Brexit and goodbye, NHS. The NHS isn't working, it needs rebuilt from the ground up, anyway. At least if it's privatized, there will be less shit brushed under the rug when they fuck up monumentally
>>734455723 There are aspects of socialism which are flawed as there is with any political structure. So really you're all right. The NHS is great but things like the welfare state need a serious reformation before they become good and fair to all.
socialism doesnt work , look what happened when it was last here .... rats run the streets , the dead went unburied , power cuts , nothing in the fuckin shops .... this is why children shouldnt be allowed to vote , jebus fuckin wept
You are regurgitating Daily Mail headlines over and over again thinking that they must be true because you read them in big letters. It's cute, but sad. Like watching a dog with no back legs try to run.
>>734455952 The NHS arguably hasn't worked since the 80s. It's not a case of "needs gibs", it's a structural problem in that it literally just doesn't not work well. It is fundamentally flawed from the ground up. Throwing money at it is just compounding the issue. Any damage the tories did to the NHS in the last 5 years is pissing in an ocean of problems.
>>734455826 The IRA wasn't always a terrorist group though. My grandad was a member before it got all fucked. I'm willing to bet Corbyn didn't meam the IRA in it's latter form. I could be wrong liie I havent checked it out too much but is he fuck a trrrorist sympathiser. You're talking out your arse if you think so. There is no way someone like that would be a relatively high up politician. Plus I'm pretty sure most sources for that were biased publications in favour of May.
>>734455823 >Labour were in power for 10+ years and achieved fuck all. wrong they went to war a couple of times and upset the brown cunts who seek to blow us up now
>The tories were in power before that, and achieved fuck all. Correct , under thatcher she had the balls to do something about the poverty of the nation , under major they did fuck all
>Yet taxation across the board has risen. correct , were an island state boxing above our weight
>Politics have failed the UK. We need a better system, and a hard reset. Maybe to yes . The present system of party polictics is bollox , removeal of a party line is what is needed so the cunt you vote for had better do the job they promissed or else . This way experience will count for everything and not fuckin dumb shit from diane abbot , corbyn and others such like
>>734456222 While there's an element of what you're saying happening in the NHS, it's simply not the bigger issue. The NHS is fundamentally flawed and needs rebuilt. So much stupid shit is funded and protected within the NHS, job roles that are filler-ish and not important are being given priority over the jobs of paramedics, GPs, and surgeons, all in the name of keeping people on as little pay as possible. A skilled surgeon should not have to go private because a midwife wants to reduce her hours to 30 from 40, causing an issue in the ward she was working in, and necessitating a new job role. But that kind of shit is happening all over the country.
>>734456042 bollocks , its on record MI5 opened a file on him as his actions were a worry to state security , hes best mate with a cunts whos done 20 years for bomb making , he was arrested while protesting against the locking up of the murdering fuckers and invited a known ira man into the houses of parliment after the brigton bombing and was reprimanded by his own party , the chief whip wanted him removed from labour .... how ira do you think he really is ... come on work this fucker out
Regardless of how we feel the NHS could be improved, and it definitely could, that does not in any way equate to a system like the US currently have as being a better alternative. There is a reason that citizens of pretty much every country in the world envy our NHS.
>>734456299 look it up , pop back and say `` sorry i was wrong ``
the left wing press dress it up as hes some sort of freedom fighter but the reality is he just isnt and even if he were and there was any truth in that he would then have his loyaltys massively missplaced , hes a piece of shit and hes the head piece of shit in a flawed idea , i dislike the tory cunts with the rich gets richer but ill vote against corbyn everytime
Actually, both nurses and police officers require a degree. I should know, my parents are one of each. Their degrees were paid for by government grants that no longer exist. You're really not making any sense.
It's funding and budget has INCREASED exponentially in the last 15 years, yet problems are more and more prevalent. This is because the way the NHS is run simply doesn't work. If money were the issue, it would be running smoother.
But it's not just free. We can also have premium healthcare via private practices if we want to pay for it, so actually, we have the best of both worlds. Free for those that can't afford to pay, and premium for those that can. Removing the free option won't make private healthcare any cheaper, so what's to gain?
>>734456924 I didn't argue for a system like the US. Where did you get the impression I wanted that?
The NHS doesn't need improved, it needs rebuilt. It was never meant to cope with the population we are seeing now, nor with the situations our GPs and doctors find themselves in with a rapidly diversifying list of patients.
>>734456989 So I've looked it up a little and I can see where you are coming from. But I don't entirely thinm that was where he was coming from in that situation. He says he stands up for Irish independance but I see why that can be taked the wrong way. I reckon he believed in the end goal for the IRA but not the means
It's NOT free. Tax payers pay 9-12% of their wage in National Insurance that goes in to a fund that was once to provide social benefits, but now provides 75%-80% of the NHS funding.
Those on benefits? They also pay NI out of their benefits. Essentially, if you're claiming on the NHS and on EESA, DLA, UTC or PIP, you are taking tax payers money, who are paying your NI contributions with their taxes.
>>734457471 they are implimenting a need for new recruit cops to have a degree level education , for nurses the training they recieve is a degree in itself and they dont progress further with training unless they pass these exams , so hes correct ,,,, sort of
What it needs to do is start petitioning the other EU nations for renumeration upon treating their citizens, and it has started to do so recently. It also needs to refuse treatment to non-eligible people, and to separate mental health treatment from GP practices, and a load of other things, and as you say most importantly removing a fuckload of the unnecessary managerial positions that have cropped up recently. But this election isn't about how to improve the NHS, it's about whether we want to keep it or not, and I hope you can agree it's worth keeping, even if it does need major reform in places.
>>734457796 Again, I simply do not accept that the NHS funding is the issue. It's the way it WORKS that's the issue.
Look at what happens in an immigrant friendly area. 40 Poles/Refugees move in to a community, with a local GP surgery. That GP surgery currently does not have nurses or GPs that speak polish or arabic. Therefore, that ONE practice now has to employ a multilingual nurse and GP specifically to deal with immigration. You can't just say "Here, speak our language!" because NHS policy guarantees a doctor or nurse that speaks YOUR language. Now, the wage for that Nurse and that GP costs the NHS, in this one practice, potentially 70-90 grand a year.
Picture this happening throughout the country. Shit like this is why the NHS isn't working.
but he chooses to protest the idea with known murdering filth instead of people whom arnt attached to guns and bombs , he doesnt seek the people who could make the difference and bring them into the light , he chains himself to a fence with wastes of skin like adams .... this demonstrates his distaste which is his own but what a way to do it ? imahgine if you will murdering rag heads and may asking them to pop along to parliment , prehaps have may protest against the government with hard core islamic nutters ? its unimaginable and retarded to even say it .... thats what corbyn is , now humour me and imagine a policy is created thats going to royally fuck us up , can you see him saying errrr we have had a think about it and decided its not the best idea ! can you see the cunt backing down from anything , being nothing but a blinkered hinderence to us all ,,, the torys have taken shit for floating ideas and then when people shout cunt backing down ,,,, i want more of that ,,,, without torys though
The NHS only guarantees somebody to speak your language because of EU regulations, soon to be gone whether we vote Tory or Labour. I agree that it's ridiculous. I've lived in a few countries throughout Europe and nowhere else seems to give a fuck about that rule anyway.
i will offer 1 thing , from 1986 to 1992 the ira filth would hold a commemoration for bobby sands etc etc , yes you dont know who he was because you are a moron , a chief speaker was corbyn .... look it up yourself and get your head out your arse prick
Daily reminder Corbyn is an idealistic well meaning but deluded moron, who refuses to denounce terrorists, will fold during Brexit negotiations and wants to remove our nuclear deterrent (because nuclear subs with no nukes are just as effective as nuclear subs with nukes right?).
If you know all of this and still want to vote for the man, you are deluded and need to get a reality check. The man means well, but he will not get things done.
I do not like the conservatives, I hate most of their policies but I will still vote for them in the upcoming election with the express reason of getting Brexit right.
I don't think people realize HOW important Brexit being a success is; we are on the tipping point people, there is no skulking back to our little warm safe flesh sack to let the undemocratic leach of the EU hook us back up to the life sucking machine.
We have made the decision to leave and that is final, so buck up, grow a pair and vote for the candidate that will actually do a half decent job of the most important political event of our generation.
This is for Britain, this is for the British People. Follow your own socialist ideals and do whats right for the many for once and not whats best for your little Corbynista cult of personality.
Vote Conservative this election, just so we have a smigion of a chance at Brexit.
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