Old fag here in need of assistance from younger folk. Doing

>Your pullout game is weak and other reasons why abortions are needed

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Are Computer Crazed Millennials Using the Web to Deletus their Fetuses?

There's Too Many Anyways

>>734173742
New means to abort, same reasons why you shouldn't

>>734173742
What is your paper about?
You understand me

>>734173847
>>734173822
he said pro life cucktards

"little liberal triggers"

You're Fucking Up God's Plan

>>734173742
Race-Differential Abortion: Natural Selection at Its Best

>>734173742

"God Loves Rape Babies: Shoniqwa's Story"

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>>734173742
Title: Why to choose a life of stability, fiscal responsibility, and possibility instead of being tied down to an accident simply because moralfags and religious nutjobs can't see past their own stuck up noses.

Eat a dick, OP. Pro-life bullshit. What a fucked up way of even saying it "pro-life" like if you don't agree with it you are anti-life. I'm not about to let a broken condom or a psycho crazy bitch who lies about being on the pill ruin my life simply out of fear of angering a vengeful, wrathful god. You people need to stop shoving your shit down everybody's throats.

Deal with your own god damn life before you go preachin' to others about how they should live theirs. I can't believe you think 4chan is going to give you pro-life shit. Oldfag my ass.

This is now an aborted fetus thread, like it fucking should be.

>>734173742
hashtag fetuslivesmatter

how old are you?

>>734174524

They are only pro-life until birth and then fuck the kids and their welfare abusing mothers. Cut healthcare more, children don't need it. I'm prolife btw. Tee hee. Cocksuckers.

>>734174524
>summer nights

newfag

>>734173742

>You don't save lives by ending them

>Violence breeds violence

>I hope the cost wasn't worth more than a condom

>No flower may bloom without seed.

>>734173831
Made me laugh

>>734174382
>expecting anon top give op what he wants right away

Fuck off my /b/ newfag

>>734173742
A day in the life of Dr. Deletus

A modest proposal

The kids love it

A Paper On The Stoning Of Murderous Millennials, As Commanded By Allah

>>734173742
"Don't pull out"

OP here

youre all newfags

newfags everywhere

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>>734173742
Baby or Hell? your choice

Why aren't white people having as many babies as their black and Mexican neighbors: a post apocalyptic tale

>>734173742
When is it ok to murder a baby?

>>734174524
you're the one who fucked up, not your baby, you should be the one that should suffer for being a dumbass, not your baby

>>734175316
Doesn't matter; the wealthy and intelligent few will always remain to govern the poor and unintelligent many.

>>734175534
Nevah

just call it "My Issue With Abortion".

>>734174373
Its about how a "progressive" societies selfishness for pleasure corrupts an instinct whose purpose was the propagation of the species, not to discard unintended consequences.

>>734175701
THIS, but a little shorter.

I'd say something like "life: where do i begin?"

>>734174571
19 going on 20
Too young to form a valid opinion?

>>734175804
Gay

>>734175804
faggot

how about shut the fuck up if you're a man

God hates fags

>>734173742

Legalized Murder

>>734175781
That is what my essay is about, just need a good title that will encompass/sympathy with an indecisive audience.

>>734175611
Families lose money quickly after a generation because people with money tend to raise spoiled brats that don't know how to work or invest.

>>734173742
No Free Ticket To Heaven: Make Babies Endure Life Like the Rest of Us

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>>734175899
how about WE OWN YOUR DISGUSTING BODY so stfu about things (like babies) that don't concern you, woman

>>734176177
Overpopulation: not my problem

Stop crime abort black babies

>>734175864
>>734175892
Really? I thought it was clever. But idgaf about babies, so not the best dude, i guess

>>734173742
Ending the Trend of Peace: Why We Need More Future Criminals

>>734175611

>will always remain to govern

Jesus Christ your diction is retarded.

>>734175812
Wait... you consider yourself an oldfag?

>>734176749
OP here, what about "life: it ends before it begins"

Life Happens

>>734177097
>implying you have to be old to be an old fag

>>734173742

"Choose life"

One of the weirdest things about this argument is the idea that one has to be either pro-choice or pro life.

Youll win people over more easily if you base the argument on 'yes, it's your choice, I won't take it away from you, but maybe you should chose to keep your child'

It's Not a Mistake. It's a miracle

>>734177344

I highly doubt that is ever going to convince anyone. If a person believes in miracles, they're probably already pro-life.

>>734177281
stop being a pussy and say it right

'yes, it's your choice, I won't take it away from you, but maybe you should chose to not murder your child'

>>734174111

but you should dumba ss

>>734177266
"Old fag" means you're an aged faggot.

"Oldfag" means you've been here "a while"

One would constitute asking younger individuals for their perspective. The other is a cry for attention, and serves no point in mentioning in this thread.

At first I assumed you were some older guy taking night classes. Now I see you're a kid trying to seem older. Or you want us to think you've been here all summer.

>>734174676
political decisions shouldn't dictate how you conclude whether abortion is "good of bad"

>>734177402
you saying supersticious are dumb?
therefor religious?
therefor prolife?

ITT

>newfags pretending to be old fags

>oldfags pretending to be newfags

>>734177704
No, but it's sort of silly those that typically are pro-life think you should have a child, regardless of circumstance, then would rather not help, when the circumstance means they would need help to raise said the child.

>>734177687
>Implying the point you perceived was the points purpose

>>734178192
Your purpose was one of the two I laid out for you.

Since you're still a kid, one of them is nullified. So that only leaves an attention seeking faggot.

>>734178326
>implying I'm OP

how about
>Murder
>Freedom to Choose Murder
>On Murder

>>734178448
Idgaf at this point I'll argue with anyone

Prove me wrong

>>734178047
don't think is completely accurate on the "regardless of circumstance" pro lifers tend to be in good/goodish/livable/tolerable circumstances.

they might change their opinion temporarily according to region, like if you dropped one in Somalia or some shit

>Parent Yourself First

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>>734174524

>>734179659
out of this thread you liberal scum baby killing fagot stick

its a pro life thread

>>734179928

Now, now, There is room for everyone.

Misguided Murder: The Holocaust of a Generation

>>734177687
This
OP is just a faggot

>>734177997
You ever heard of Poe's law?

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>>734173742
We care only until they are born.
(The adoption vs abortion facts.)

>>734177687
guyz guyz, what if its an old guy pretending to be a young guy pretending to be an old guy.....
nah op is just an aborted fetus

>>734179928
I'm le enlightened centrist
Kys nigger

>>734173742
Something tells me you're just a young fag trying to get help on his essay. Gtfo and do your hw, faggot.

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Killing a fetus is the equivalent of killing a tad pole. You aren't killing a frog, because it isn't a frog yet. Debate me.

>>734173742
Terminator 3: Rise of the Millenials

>>734173742
Fetus deletus<undo>

>>734180625
Ahhhhh, but you see, according to Einstein's theory of relativity, the future has already happened.
So that tadpole is already an unperceived frog, and that fetus, a yet in perceivable adult.

>>734173742
Actually how about. Fetus is love fetus is life, and this is why

>>734173742
Just tell it like you would. Responsibility for what you've done.

>>734173742
Why I Think I Have the Right to Make Decisions About Other People's Bodies and Lives: A Look into why My Discomfort is YOUR Problem

>"Why your parents didn't abort you,"

>>734176382
this

>>734180334
have you heard of trolling?

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>>734180625
Humans are not frogs.

Retard.

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>>734182015
Frogs.

Not are human retards.

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>>734173742
Use graphics.

>>734173742
Let the Air In.
Its a reference to Hills like White Elephants. Hemmingway

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>>734182116

Nice thumbnail.

>retard confirmed

Pepe is a human frog.

>>734181314
>Why You Think You Have the Right to Make Decisions About Other People's Lives: A Look into why Your Mistakes and Lack of Responsibility Justify Murder.

>>734173831
Where is Dr. Deletus when you need him?

>>734175536
Ignoring the victim-blaming here, you don't think a baby born into the lives of people who can't afford to care for it doesn't suffer?

>b-but adoption-

The adoption and foster care system in this country sucks. I recently read an article by the director of an adoption agency who said his experiences with the system and what kids in it go through made him an even more vociferous advocate for access to abortion.

>>734182424
Because pro-choice people go around forcing people to have abortions, right? Remember, keep it safe, legal, and rare.

>>734177281
"... but maybe you should choose to abort the fetus."

>>734182523
If you don't want to have a kid, then don't get knocked up.

Ain't that hard nigga.

>>734183375
Said someone who will hopefully one day be literally and figuratively raped by the universe's instruments of karmic justice.

>>734182727

You know why they don't? because they know the difference between right and wrong.

They know that there is no need to interrupt the natural cycle of the pregnancy.

But even knowing this, they are so selfish, so narcissistic, that they are willing to kill so they won't "suffer" the consequences, so it won't make their life harder.

If that were the case, everyone would go around killing each other to make their lives easier, but we don't, because we know is wrong.

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>>734183375
um

>>734182523
dude, even people who are planned and come into a loving family suffer,
don't you think the unwanted should be given a chance?

>>734173742
Usually titles are derived from the articles are argument or subject... you're article apparently is so stupid that this is not possible.

I suggest: "I am unhappy with my life and this article is how I am dealing with it"

>>734183832
No, why does any fetus deserve to develop?

>>734183832
I was planned and came into a loving family and while I have certainly had my share of difficulties throughout life, those difficulties are nothing compare to those faced with a life of constant poverty or illness or both. Suicide rates are substantially higher among lower-class citizens; knowing the math, why would you condemn a child to such a fate?

>>734176177
LIFE DISCOVERED ON MARS

then go into how hippo-critical the left is about the sanctity of life. and you should use the texas commissions data about life and abortion it was done very recently and has the most extensive data on the matter

>>734184556
what makes you think you have the right to kill innocents just bc you felt like painting vag walls instead of using free condoms?

>>734184918
What makes you think pregnancy is limited to consensual sexual encounters where all parties consciously decided not to use protection?

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>>734184918
Condoms suck. It isn't alive if it can't draw its own breath. It has no self awareness. It's basically a parasite for the first trimester. Get laid some time and maybe you'll know what being alive truly is.

>>734177159
Best one I have seen.

Or something as a half sentence. " it begins with two "

>>734184738
Please do tell us about how hypocritical pro-choice people are re: life.

>>734184556
It's not about the statistical probability of having a "good life", it's about having a chance at life.

Whose to say they know what life is about?

Everyone deserves a chance, the poor, the sick, the mad, the rich, etc.

If they decide to commit suicide because they don't like their life, then go ahead, it is THEIR CHOICE ON THEIR LIFE.

All I say is give them a chance to make that choice.

>>734185458
And I say give people who are actually, already alive in the "have cognition, aren't just a bundle of cells/organs with no perception or consciousness" the ability to live their lives as they please.

But again I ask, why does anyone "deserve" a chance at life? Who are you to tell a woman that the unwanted organism in her body, that she may not have willingly consented to host, is now her emotional, physical, and fiscal responsibility? Does an insane person really have a choice in the matter if they kill themselves because a voice in their head told them to do so?

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Just as murdering someone is ok in some situations, like self defense, abortion is ok in some situations, like life threatening pregnacy or rape.

Shit, if you don't want a child, you could get an abortion. Being forced to raise a child doesn't sound like you're free.

>but you decided to have sex!

Lots of people who fuck are kids who have no understanding of how to raise a child, or even have a decent idea of how babies are made. Making someone have a child because the death of a small cluster of cells offends you is fucked up.

Get fucked moralfags.

>>734173742
Pro Life must be good, because we all know that there is a big shortage on people.

>>734173742
Miraculous mistakes and why not to flush them

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>>734173831
10/10 haven't laughed that hard in a long ass time

>>7341737

"You Were a Fetus"

>>734186319
It's a paper on abortion, not an exposé on Taco Bell's menu.

>>734173742

Let the babies hit the floor.

Anal sex prevents crotch droppings.

How to induce miscarriage.

Is your spouse pro life
prepare the anus of your wife.

No more spawn kills

>>734185109
>It isn't alive if it can't draw its own breath.
so you can just kill old people, newborns that are ill, people that get knocked the fucked out, many such cases!
>>734185083
why kill the innocent child and not the rapist instead?

>>734185940
-Some of our differences lie in perception.
-Where you see a cocoon, I see a butterfly.
-Where you see a bundle of cells/organs with no perception of consciousness, I see a baby.

-How far will you go to live the live that you please?
-Surely in your life you have encounter instances where if someone where to die it would make your life easier, so why did you not kill that person other than legality?
-Would you if it was legal?

Why does anyone deserve a chance at life?
That's a question that goes beyond the concept of abortion. Whole new thread for that one.

There are instances where I'll compromise on the issue of abortion, if the mothers life is "clearly, statistically" at stake, then she has a choice, it is her life, she should have a say.

If she did not consent and becomes pregnant then she also has a say, because she didn't at the beginning.

The insane thing is in the minority and we should not invalidate my points based on the exceptions.

>>734187323
>If she did not consent and becomes pregnant then she also has a say, because she didn't at the beginning.
neiither does the child, just kill the rapist to settle blood lust and keep the kid or give it to adoption

"The Burden of Reproduction"

>>734187515
Yeah I know, that one is a tricky one but I'm willing to yield on it.
It would be nice if life was black and white, but it's an abyss of gray.

>>734186985
Because the rapist can be reformed, or at least be put to the benefit of society in some way while incarcerated. Also, the rapist is a living person, while a fetus is not, making his death murder from the perspective of one who opposes capital punishment (as I do). If you're suggesting that killing a rapist would be an acceptable alternative to abortion, then you've accepted the premise that death is sometimes a necessary outcome for the crime of rape and we simply disagree on whose existence termination best serves the ends of society.

>>734187852
>then you've accepted the premise that death is sometimes a necessary outcome for the crime of rape and we simply disagree on whose existence termination best serves the ends of society.
well no shit my dude of course certain crimes justify capital punishment.
>while a fetus is not
youre reductionist view would also then suggest that anyone who can not stop someone from killing them can then be killed no?
>Because the rapist can be reformed, or at least be put to the benefit of society in some way while incarcerated.
the future child has a way better chance then some rapist
>Also, the rapist is a living person, while a fetus is not
if you murder a pregnant women its a double homicide even if its manslaughter you are getting two counts, explain that, it has a heart beat

>>734173742
>good title that will resonate with younger people.

that's just click bait titles

"what you don't know about abortion"

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>>734174382
>cucktards

>>734187811
which is why its brash/incorrect to punish the child for no reason. i agree on if that mother will have a good chance of not surving but lets be real that is super rare and even rape babies are really rare both those combined are not even a quarter of all abortions

>>734187323
>Difference of perception
If you're going to try to get flowery and emotional about the subject (as all pro-life arguments are invariably fated to at some point or another), at least get the fucking analogy right. It's not "cocoon = ball of unconscious cell/organs", it's "eggs laid by a butterfly = ball of unconscious cells/organs".

>How far would I go?
Again, killing a living person for the sake of my own convenience is =/= to aborting a pregnancy. The former is illegal and immoral from a sociological cost/benefit analysis.

I didn't bring up the issue of insanity, you did. Think through your talking points before introducing them.

And finally, if you are going to make the claim that anything "deserves a chance at living" before it is conscious or is capable of perception, you need to STOP DEFLECTING AND DEFEND A CLAIM THAT IS SO CENTRAL TO YOUR ARGUMENT.

>>734175534
>When is it ok

When facing 18 years or longer of taking care of a baby, your concern would be whether you ad the "ok" to end it? haha you deserve to be a cuckdad

>>734188286
Technically the child is being punished for the sins of the father, wrong as it is.

Basically everyone who partakes in consensual sexual intercourse should accept the consequences of that act, whatever they may be.

If one of the parties did not consent(usually the female) then that person should have an option In opting-out of said consequence IF POSSIBLE.

>>734173742
HOW BOUT
"SHIT I DONT EVEN HANG MY CLOTHES FUCK ELSE IS A HANGER FOR?"

>>734180625
The argument goes like this: up to a certain point in brain development the fatty sheathes which allow neurons to communicate have not developed, thus there is no thought, no thinking, no consciousness. its a wad of cells. will it be a person? of course. is it a person? no. will my jerkin spooge be a person? under the right conditions. am i obloigated to find a foster home for every sperm? NO.
no thought.
no person.
abort away, anons.

>>734188765
still too black n white m8.

The nigger must survive

Condom broke, Surpise I'm a dad.

>>734188476
My original analogy was correct, you just didn't understand it.
Basically, once the "event" starts, the outcome is "inevitable".
-When a caterpillar makes its cocoon, it'll turn into a butterfly most of the time.(hurr durr moths also blah blah)
-When a sperm meets the egg, it will turn into a baby, generally...most of the time.

>killing a living person for the sake of my own convenience is =/= to aborting a pregnancy
THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT IT IS

>The former is illegal and immoral
So is the latter. Refer to my analogy.

>>734189250

No, not for every sperm, not for every egg.
But for the meeting of the two.

>>734188139
>Certain crimes justify capital punishment
This claim is incidental to a particular legal philosophy and is not supported by evidence, i.e. there are countries where capital punishment is illegal that have extremely low rates of recidivism for the most severe crimes. The economics of successfully carrying out a death sentence also bear enormous costs to society that may significantly outweigh the benefits of execution.

Your use of the term "reductionist" here indicates that you do not understand what it means, since my distinction between a living person's cognition and a fetus's lack of one is not a fundamentally reductionist distinction but rather a philosophically holistic one. Also, obviously anyone who cannot stop themselves from being killed CAN be killed, the question is "SHOULD they be killed?" which is a moral judgment rather than situational.

>Future child has a better chance than some rapist.
Speculation not borne out by facts; the comforting lie that your unwanted child might be the next Einstein or Michael Jordan or whatever is one of the most dangerous talking points of the pro-life crowd, as is...

>the double homicide thing
This just rings of the "if there is no god then how did the universe come from nothing explain THAT atheists HAHA CHRISTIANS:1 ATHEISTS: 0 lololol" doesn't it? So obviously a woman could be pregnant and decide to abort the pregnancy without telling friends/family for fear of the social stigma and anxiety that might cause her, then get knifed on the way to the abortion clinic for a consultation. If no one knows of her intention to abort, then statistically-speaking it is more rational to assume she intended to keep the baby and thus prosecute as a double-homicide. Also, abortion is an invasive medical procedure and should be carried out by a licensed physician who can consult with their patients prior to performing the operation, thus the physician has the legal authority to carry out the procedure.

>>734190060
No, I got that, it was just a stupid analogy considering that a cocoon is part of the natural, post-birth lifecycle of a butterfly/moth more akin to puberty in humans than childbirth. If you start using the "inevitability" argument, please refer to >>734189250 and their comments on masturbation/nocturnal emissions and shut up.

>>734173742

Oldfag here.

OP may listen to this https://youtu.be/W8M0Tox9_XA and elect to "Respectfully Decline" having to produce a paper on a basic human right.

Also fundamental christians/jews/muslims should immediately insert a shotgun into their oral cavity and drop the hammer on a #2 solid shot.

Fuck you and your antiquated version of social control.

>>734174524

Bravo.

>>734190940
>Oldfag here
>Oldfag
>here
>Oldfag
>no

>>734175701

Essentially what you are being asked to write about is a blatant lie about the human species use of sexual intercourse as a basic need for pleasure, relaxation, and intimacy.

HURR DURR IT'S AGAINST GAWDS WILL! SEX IS FOR MAKING BABIES NOT FOR FUCKING! YOUS GONNA GO TO HELL FOR YO SINS!

Please exit life immediately.

>>734190207
im going to reply by topic bc you touch several different aspects to to the main points I made, which i appreciated
>capital punishment
I do not care about recidivism rates I think capital punishment is good for society at large bc I have the opinion that certain ideas cannot be allowed to hang around in jail, and I dont mean honor killings so dont think i am saying its revenge only but i think capital punishment more good then bad, but i do feel reform is needed which speaks to your point made about it being an economic burden. I think their should be a set time period to prove the arguement for capital punishment like a couple years and then if deemed "legit enough" then instant death no wait around for a decade bs. also the entire procedure should be more open
>its a moral arguement not a situational one
yes exactly but morals are led by or at least attempted to be enacted by principals/responsibilty/behavior so different situations can arise that would produce a different outcome while aiming to apply the same to morals/principals to various situations that are relevant. in this case "the sanctity of life". now regardless of ones opinion on what is and is not life, I think it foolish or niave to ignore the spiritual parts of humans' experience so i think then it therefor it would be messed up to stop the heart beat capable baby. whether or not it can live is irrelevant bc there are many conditions in which consciousness as you previously referred to are not so easily determined in certain states and even until a certain age/developement (and im not trying to make some hippy bs statement about animals)
>Speculation not borne out by facts; the comforting lie that your unwanted child might be the next Einstein or Michael Jordan or whatever is one of the most dangerous talking points of the pro-life crowd, as is...
that is not what i meant 2 say I mean fuck the rapist they made their choice to rape and violate someone physically/spiritually

>>734188765
you mean the fetus

the child is being punished for the sins of the father when a single mother suffering from depressions who cannot support her child starts drinking and taking drugs

Here's one,

CHILD SUPPORT

>>734173742
Coat Hangers Kill

>>734191404
Dude, you're forgetting about all the people put to death under capital punishment who were later exonerated by DNA evidence. It is an inhumane, hasty, costly, and immoral act. Your solution to all of the above cannot be "make it quicker and easier" given the margin for error.

>>734173742
Not actually your body you faggots it's a different body that resides inside you, what kind of host murders their guests, also abortion causes haunted pussy

>>734191769
whats your opinion about some ideas not being valid to the point where they cannot be allowed to live anymore? also i have always thought itd be interesting to know how many wrongfully convicted people for death row occured since 2000 as a % compared to the say the previous 30 years i guess that would have to be at a state level information

>>734191809
but muh property! funny how same peopl that say my body my rules also claim to hate slavery

"Your parents could have aborted you if they knew what a massive faggot you were gonna become, aren't you glad they didn't?"

>>734191809
if that guest could ruin the life of a 17 year old girl, maybe its not such a bad idea

>>734173742
Stairs : When to "Fall" Down Them

>>734173742
"What if the greatest of memes is locked inside the mind of an aborted fetus?"

>>734173742
Dyson Vacuums : Not Just For Carpets.

>>734192065
The notion that you can physically destroy hateful ideologies by killing those who propagate them is literally how the US got bogged down in two wars in two different countries for over a decade. You will never actually kill those ideas: Hitler was the biggest Grade A Nazi of all time and even after he died and Nazi Germany was defeated in WW2 and the Nuremberg trials were held there are still very public Nazis operating today. Trying to stomp out ideas with violence might be the easier, faster response but coming up with better narratives is surely more effective.

>>734191019

Not OP Oldfag

But definitively olderfag than you summer kid.

Fuck off.

>>734192479
good point. just to be totally fair i also think rape is and death of mom are good points way more the latter, but the former doesnt sit will with me bc the kid has no choice, also i know its not doing math and writing books but things like getting used to "mom and dads voice"/ having a stable heart beat type things that babies do in the womb happen within a few months

Abort Black Babies - Fight the Crime of the Future - Today!

>>734192200
I'm not saying it should never be done ever, but how many of these leftwing people deal with it is completely wrong, promoting abortion (there are fucking abortion funds, its like having assisted suicide funds) people should really bot see it as an option, they'll be thinking "i can always get an abortion and the doc will take all my responsibilities away" instead of taking precautions. It should be a last resort after not being at slut at 17 yo, using proper anticonception, keeping it and giving it up for adoption.
>Maybe it's not such a bad idea
Sometimes husbands abuse and ruin the lives of women and are arguably better of dead, that does not mean we should promote pro-choice of murdering your husband

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>>734191574
speculating based on your mother.

>>734173742
"Here's why the new life in your uterus removes your rights over your own body and why" (A stepping stone to further laws over what individuals do with their body, like mandatory tracking/ trade/ ID implants, mandatory birth regulators, mandatory medicine dispensers to pacify the masses, required surgeries relative to individual cases, etc)

>>734192479
never say never, all that has to happened is an extinction level event

Trading Stem Cells for Freedom: 19 Reasons to Vac that Vag Out.

>why not to use clothes hanger

This way you'll attract the attention of young grills interested in removing the parasite.

Coathangers, Egg Beaters, and Vacuums - How to Evict that Unwanted Tenant in 3 Easy Steps

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>>734173742
Dr. Deletus and the annihilation of fetus': a rookies guide.
Pic related
It's your cover page.

How Many Babies is to Many?
A Poor Persons Guide To Abortions.

>>734193097

No one is saying they don't have a rights over their own body, that whore can cut off her arms and legs if she wants

>>734194089
Even if those alterations cause her to bleed out and compromise the life of the embryo/fetus/child?

>>734194157

that wouldn't be rights over her body, it would be rights over her life, hence what she has inside her.

>>734173742
'The divine choice' really go for that religious vibe for the pro-life choice

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Why is no one addressing the fact that our ENTIRE world is being destroyed by overpopulation? All I keep reading about is "life matters" "what about the living/not living baby"

Who the fuck cares! The planet and being able to live on it without fucking all our our LIMITED resources, I think, is more important.

Someone please answer me that.

>>734173742
No fetus can defeat us

>>734196400
This is the mosr saddest dubs

Slurp! The sound of equality.

"its sacred til its out of the puss, then you can throw it in an orphanage for all we care".

>>734196575
The slurping is the sound of the abortion vacuum.

>>734174676
>Tee Hee

>>734182015
Fetuses aren't humans.

Retard.

>>734181754
Yes obviously but some retards here are going to think it's serious

>>734173742
Pro Life, It's The Reason We Kill

>>734173742
A child needs a good mom and dad, if some kids get a kid they should be anle to abort it, kids deserve a good life you fucking retard i hope you die retard

12 reason why kids are pretty cool. You won't believe #6!!!!

>>734178047
Dude, all we want is for the fetus to have the same rights as everyone else. It's already illegal to murder the baby's that exited the womb. That's all we want. We want murder to be illegal no matter who you're killing

>>734173742
"WHY MY GENERATION THINKS WE CONTROL YOUR BODIES AND YOU DONT"

>>734173742
An investigative report on Band and music by 'Cannibal Corpse' with focus on particular song 'Entrails pulled from a virgins cunt'

>>734199843
Yeah, but no--- rights only extend to someone who has been born and even then the idea of rights is limited--- is. The moment you become a felon, your rights are highly restricted.

Or if you're a child, you don't have any say-- but your parents do.

And, also, you're basically saying that women have no rights or say over their bodies--- you regulate them to only voiceless vessels.

I was one subjugated to an abortion attempt but I laid on the side and they couldn't reach

The Fetal Solution

>>734173742
Title: I'm a self-righteous hypocritical asshole who expects other people to live by my personal religious moral standards

>>734200312
The female had their say when they had consensual sex (I won't argue for rape babies).
In order to become a felon, you have to do something wrong
It's illegal to kill your children and felons
You haven't made an argument

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>>734200505
>tell him his views are only religious, that'll make me right!!
I'm not him, but I've been an agnostic atheist since I was about 8. It's still wrong to murder babies imo

>>734173742
This is your daily reminder that all the Christfags who believe life begins at conception MUST ALSO BELIEVE THAT MISCARRIED BABIES GO STRAIGHT TO HELL.
No baptism, not receiving the word == straight to hell.

Also, life at conception also means most miscarriages are manslaughter.
If the "baby" fails to implant in uterus for any reason == involuntary manslaughter.
If baby dies without clear reason (genetic flaw, developmental failure, etc) == involuntary manslaughter
If mother eats, drinks, breathes, does anything that causes miscarriage - even unwittingly == murder.

YFW if you think life begins at conception, then most women who miscarry should be charged with manslaughter and imprisoned.

>>734177097
New faggotry at its best

>>734173742
Mommy, please don't kill me.

Jesus Says Letting Babies Live is On Fleek

>>734199699
lol

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>>734200795
You should stop strawmaning every argument. It didn't work for Trump, won't work now

>>734175536

>suffer

I know its hard for pro lifers to understand science and stuff. But ill explain..

Pain, and sufferign are not magic. They rely on nerves, consciousness, self awareness and certain formed brain structures.

Something we know for a fact fetuses most certainly do not have until long after the legal abortion cut off. They cant even "suffer" until consciousness and self awareness, which comes even after they are born.


So given the choice between never existing at all, and being born to a family that didnt want a child, a world that sucks, or a young coked out couple that cant possibly provide a good start.


Yeah id take the termination before i even have a functioning brain.

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why not this

>>734175812
Yes.. Actually.

And im not even basing that on your opinions expressed in this thread. Youre still too young to know fuck all about anything.

Trust me on that one. Youll get it.

>>734201021
>It didn't work for Trump
You mean President Trump?

>>734201021
Prove me wrong.

Mother feeds kid wrong food
child dies
Mother charged with child neglect, child abuse, and/or manslaughter.

How is it supposed to be different whether baby is a 3yo or 3month old after birth or 3mo old after conception?
Remember, it becomes a baby at conception - supposedly with all rights to life from that moment on.

>>734201059
I remember a time when a doctor told me theres no need to numb a baby before butchering... I mean circumcision. Turns out that causes ptsd and I remember the screams quite clearly too. Fuck your "science". It's everyone's job to question science. It's actually all we pay scientists to do, and is a basic part of the scientific method

>>734201253
Mother feeding bad food is negligence. Stupid argument from a stupid person

>>734173742
the coathanger diaries

>>734173742
Shut up and let us brainwash you?
Indoctrination for dummies?
Little tumors?

>>734201253
>remember: becomes baby at conception

Differentfag but.. Thats religious rhetoric so "remember" as though youre stating a fact everyone knows doesnt work because thats exactly the debated point.


And ill tell you the difference:
Because the world fucking sucks, and we've known that for eons. The writings and musings of philosophers and great writers have been talking about it since the dawn fo time.


Fetuses cannot suffer. They have not developed rhe appropriate pain nerve endings or brain processes until much later in the pregnancy.

suffering cant even really be a thing without consciousness and self awareness which develops*after* birth.

If you cannot provide that baby with all the best advantages to not have a shitty time in this already shitty world they gave no consent to be in, its a mercy kill. Not a murder..

>hurr the girl made a mistake live with it hurr her fault.

Yeah but you know who suffers the complete and full consequences of her mistakes? The baby.

>>734201253
>Remember, it becomes a baby at conception
wrong
it becomes a zygote at conception

>"Raising Future Pizza Stars"

>>734191809
It's called natural selection asswipe.
Death is not restricted to any age.

>>734174524
>In a bad mood cuz mom told me to stop spanking it into her pilow

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>>734173742
drones are the only things that should kill babies

A fetus is not self aware nor is it alive on it's own. Until it is born, it is little more than some internal organ and if the potential mother does not wish to give birth to it then she does not have to. Better than her trying to remove it herself or giving birth to a child she can't raise well.

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>>734173742
"Outlaw Abortion Now: The world is running dangerously low on humans."

>>734186985
All those people are still breathing moron.

>>734201308
Theyve always known that. Circumcision has always been a religious thing and its prominent in america because they thought it stopped the kids masturbating later in life and then it became an undying tradition.

The CDC is the one ignoring the science on this one and psychologists have been at them for a long time about that.

Also

>the entire idea of: science said this now it says that

Yes. Its a self regulating process that corrects itself and refines itself based on new evidence. Thats why its the absolute best logical process we have.

Also... Its very much not hard to understand at all the idea of nerve endings. Nothing happens magically. The entire body and psychological process relies on brain functions.

You feel pain, there was a trigger at a point and a switch flipped in the brain. The necessary neurons arent formed until 28 weeks. Abortions legal until 20.

They backed well off the point it becomes gray.

>>734173742
Don't pull the plug! An essay on the ethical implications of baby-murdering

>>734202099
Good explanation. I know all of this actually and chose to ignore his points because his final statement was that to argue with him is antiscience. I want to argue with that now because I hate people that treat science like a priesthood

>>734173742
"Our national responsibility to live according to Jesus' plan for success: Maximizing the number of unwanted kids by unfit parents + minimizing their food, housing and education once their born.

lol

>>734173742
Undeleted Fetus: we don't suck cause we give a fuck.

>>734173742
Falcon Punch - A Do-It-Yourself guide to financial freedom

>>734201599
>>734201651
The argument is for Christfags - who assume it's a baby at conception. Are you a Christfag? Can you make the assumption for logic sake? Can you make the assumption for argument sake?
If you're not a Christfag and don't believe it's a baby at conception, then you don't have to deal with the consequences of that assumption, now do you?
>Lrn2logic.

Now. If it becomes a baby at conception (which is what these pro-life people keep saying), then isn't it also rational to assume a baby at 4 months after conception has all the same rights to life as a baby at 2 years after birth?

If so, then wouldn't it be rational to charge women whenever they let a baby die - regardless of age?
If a baby dies while in their care - and there's no obvious reason, such as heart problems, genetic defect, or disease, then shouldn't we investigate the death regardless of age? (2years after birth the same as 4 months before birth).

Look up the definition of negligent homicide. If the mother's uterine wall simply fails to accept an otherwise perfectly healthy "baby", the mother is negligent in her duties to that baby. It's not the baby's fault - it's the mothers. SHE is the one who was supposed to care for the child and failed.
That's manslaughter.

I could go on and on about this and be 100% perfectly right.

Would you charge a couple for cryogenically freezing a perfectly healthy 7yo simply because they don't want to raise her right now?
How about if they say they intend to thaw her out some time in the next 2 decades? Would that make it legal/moral?

Well, again - assuming the pro-life christfag argument that it's a baby at conception - that's what hundreds of thousands of couples have done to millions of "babies" at fertility clinics.

Where's the moral outrage? Where's the assassinations of fertility clinic doctors? Where's the protests? The harassment of fertility clinics? Where are they?
Hypocrites - every one of these so-called "pro-lifers".

>>734202953
/bread

I'm Pro-life, hate my taxes paying for all your kids, but also won't pay for your birth control. Please stop fucking, it's goes against Jesus imaginary rules.