I'm Army and this shit sucks. Even if you don't die (which is 98% of military personnel), you still give up so much of your individuality and shit just to serve the man. As childish as it sounds, thats what it is...you give your whole being up to do a bunch of dumb shit that will never amount to anything other than "no one will do shit to us because we have the numbers." I mean we aren't even at war. Technically, yeah, but there's so little people doing any of the actual shit. Folks like me are just sitting around in garrison just to serve as bodies, fucking numbers. And it works. I'm not knocking the logic. It just really takes sacrifice to maintain said numbers, and if you stick around for too long or get too hooah then you become brainwashed by it all, and you can't stay in forever so by the time someone who got deeply involved gets out theyre stuck trying to relearn how to be a civilian and by then even there's not much youth left. It's fucking scary.
I really do respect everyone who does this job. It's ass, and I'm not staying in past my 4 years. God bless the troops, because they live in a world of absolute shit and some of them don't even know it.
>>734140523 to the jews it wasnt a waste. it secured more shekels and has ensured the safety of israel for another 15 years at least because israel does NOT want a stable middle east that can unite against a common enemy.
>>734140523 Well then don't sign up to be the oil barons' bitch. I have no sympathy for this. This isn't th 1960s, you all didn't sit around the family Radiation King Tv set awaiting the results of some grizzly lottery to see if Johnny-Boy was going to go die in 'Nam or not.
You volunteered. It was entirely optional. And the military doesn't take drop outs anymore, meaning you had to pass an American history 101 to sign up. You cannot claim you didn't know the US has only NOT been at war for 30 years of its existence, less if you count the indian wars, and they weren't consecutive. If you sign up, you are going to war.
You didn't protect our freedoms. You didn't "serve your country". You fought for the American petro dollar paradigm that props up the top 1%. You got your just dues when you got your pay check. You are not a hero, you are not worthy of the cult of the soldier.
>>734142000 checked And honestly shit like >>734142102 goony as it is is my big issue with joining the military in this day and age. Established militaries have always been a bit of a racket for the elite but nowadays its at fucking 11 with how obviously our soldiers don't serve the people. Which kills me because every man, I believe, contains within him the innate urge to fight alongside his brothers, and I look at society today and I can't help but wonder if sitting around on Discord playing FPSs with our friends isn't cutting it for us anymore. A lot of the discipline of military life and the capacity to be part of something greater than you appeals to me. But I just can't imagine serving Shlomo just to scratch that itch.
>durrr lets just dismantle the whole fucking military. All they do is feed the 1% and enjoy it
Lmao without a military, without the dudes serving the man, we'd be defenseless, and unless you're one of those cucks who want to see America fall (or whatever country you wanna see fall), you're gonna want people to sign up for this shit so we can have that body count, that number that keeps things good.
Again, military sucks, and I'm glad I only have 2 more years left.
>>734142432 That's what I'm saying you fucking dumb kike. Jesus fuck, you wanna not ride the liberal cock for a second and notice that I said brainwashing is involved? Most of us are young, and we join for some pretty stupid fucking reasons for the most part. That's part of the process. Some of us manage to realize there are better things out there (and then act on that and leave), while others understand that and still stay in because they know we need that count. Even still, others don't know any better and get indoctrinated into the shithole that is the military and just waste their lives away, thinking this is the best it can get or even worse, that it will be good for them cause it secures their future or some shit, when in reality theyre wasting their youth for the government.
You can act all "woke" as you want, you pretentious fucking cock, but most soldiers are really just kids. Just kids trying to find something to make them feel purposeful or good or trying to figure themselves out. Be edgy all you want you actual fucking shitlord, but we need morons like us because otherwise everything will go to shit.
>>734142303 I'm not even gonna care about your pathetic /pol/ sheep mentality. But the reason why America is one of the strongest countries in the world is because of our army/soldiers placed around the globe. We don't fight to please anyone, we go to war with objectives and opportunities to further improve our "war gears" and technics. Have your fucking (You) and rot in your hole or samefagging your sorry arse to the moon, for all I care.
>>734143480 This faggot's real mad. I paid my taxes, lil faggot. Those government sponsored bullet-warmers belong to me. Send em all off to Korea. They die, I laugh. When Trump's approval ratings get low enough or the security agencies get close enough he'll send em all over to south east asia.
>>734143397 So what's your plan then, guy? What do you think we should do for national defense? Because like it or not, if we dismantle the military then we get invaded and then you lose the right to be as vocal as you are. No more shit posting on your favorite sites, no more privacy, no more of anything that you know and love cause it'll all change when the first country/countries get here with THEIR army (probably working for the Jews too no doubt) and divy up the land and people.
Seriously, dumb shit, you have a plan? Or is it just "fuck the military lmao i'll smoke weed and whack off to overthrowing the government in my dorm room paid for by my parents all I damn well please"?
>>734143885 "National defense" ha! This faggot thinks he's defending the nation. Biggest threat to national security is retard soldiers killing people for oil barons and jews. The more of you that get picked off the safer this nation becomes.
>>734140523 You like your computer? You like cheap gas, fuel, food, and being first in line for the next big technological necesites of the world? Yeah they perished for that reason. To secure your fatass in a chair in a country of that world. And here you you are, giving thanks. Look at the bigger picture when it comes to protecting national interests.
You faggots should be appreciate that people, or in your opinion, dumb jewcock sucking hillibilly retard highschool dropouts, are dumb enough to exist because regardless, we need a military. Because your fat, lazy, and cowardly ass probably couldn't do the job in the first place. the holiday is simple. Remember the fallen. From the Revolutionary war to now. This isn't about oil. What the fuck is your problem. This may be a board for socially inept people but that doesn't mean you can't understand basic fundamentals. Fucking Jesus Fucking Christ in the ass.
>>734144070 Memorial day isn't only for the Iraq/Afghanistan wars. It's for every fucking death in service. It's also not national defense but defense of national interests. Kill yourself you block headed cunt.
>>734144070 I don't think I'm defending shit. I personally don't do jack shit other than commo stuff and the occasional military exercise and thats it. Because all I am is a number. Thats what I'm fucking saying. The whole thing is a numbers game. Holy shit you're actually mentally inept and if there ever was a fucking second holocaust you'd be one of the first to go I swear to God. Fucking psuedo intellectual faggot. I JUST asked if you or ANYONE had a plan to fix it since its OBVIOUSLY stupid and zionist and all you can do is act like a fucking spurglord and shitpost some more
>>734144363 No, to secure them. Why would a country endanger itself? that's stupid, and don't give me that shit-tier conspiracy 'da joozsh' shit either. Sadam felt he needed to exchange his oil by the Euro, and not the Dollar. Gadaffi wanted a gold-backed currency to be trade less by the Dollar and give rise to a Pan-African dream. I know more than you 'but whatever'
>>734143480 LOL anyone who joins the US military belongs to the dregs of society. Your too stupid for college or even a trade school. Thats why most in military are white trash, niggers or spics. You have the IQ of a chimp and will end up dead or paralyzed fighting for jew interests kek The reason america is a super power is because of its science & tech institutions which produce the most advanced weapons. And they make the weapons user friendly so any monkey can use them.
I wish there was a bomb that could wipe out only specific people. Like a selective targeting bomb. Or maybe a big ad campaign goes across /b/ and advertises for meetings around the country promising free child pussy to anyone who hates the military and think's they're all stupid. Then we shoot them in the head. Or we actually have children there, they get arrested for child sex, get send to prison, have their assholes torn by pedophile haters, and skulls bashed in the shower as Jose and Tyrone fucks their lifeless bodies.
>>734144721 That's the point. I think you're just as much a cocksucker to be honest but at least you get it. We need dumbass kids who don't know any better to join because we don't know how good it gets out there in the real world so we're the best candidates for making sure nobody wants to fuck with us, again, because we have the manpower to fuck someone up IF they try something. We're nothing more than a deterrent. And that's all we need at this point. So if people stop joining, if everyone stops drinking the government provided kool aid and decides to live for themselves, then everyone is fucked.
So in the end we need ignorant, dumb kids (like myself) to join the military because without them, we'd be getting fucked. That's why I'm grateful for service members and all of the dumb shit we go through. I aint doing this for long, and I wish the best for those who decide to join/stay in, because they really could use it since they're giving up so much freedom for essentially doing nothing but sitting around and being nothing but a number
>>734145279 You're the one who has been drinking the kool aid.
Do you really think that life is so great for most of the population? The military is a way to gain upward mobility. It's a decent paycheck for somebody who only has a HS diploma, or no diploma at all. It provides healthcare and housing. It lets poorer people start families and actually take care of them.
For a rare few like me it even got me into college. I'm starting my master's in the fall. I would have never been able to afford it without the GI Bill.
The military isn't just for the young and stupid. If you didn't understand what you were signing up for then that's your fault man.
Tell everyone what. If you don't like the military, go to a country without a military. Fuck off and live in the ocean. Because as long as you live in a country, you're a citizen or a guest. And as a citizen or a guest, you need to be respectful for those who helped build it and made it what it is. If you think these people died for nothing, just remember you're living for nothing. A military death will at least guarantee people come to your funeral.
>>734145301 You're gonna have to elaborate on that a little bit.
That means you could be a janitor at a fucking research lab that studies the best plastic to make dildoes out of.
As for me? I was in the navy for six years. Supported ops in Iraq and Afghanistan, arrested human traffickers off the coast of Somalia, and did anti-drug ops in the Caribbean. Now I'm out, have my bachelor's in history, and moving on to my master's. I'm a published author getting paid to go to school.
This is actually true--I just wish all of that insane amount of our taxes that went to "defense" actually went to you soldeirs instead of yet another multi-zzillion dollar contract with One of Dick Cheney's cronies to build more hi-tech shit that will never see combat, and meanwhile we still have food and supply drives at work "for the soldiers" because apparently even with the most expensive Defense program in the world, they can't afford to give y'all toothbrushes.
>>734145583 It isn't all bad. There's a reason why a lot of people stay, and for certain it goes past ideology, but you can't deny that it robs you of a lot of basic freedoms, a lot of your youth, and a lot of pleasure in your life. Many people (not all, I will correct myself in further comments. Thanks for pointing that out) stay in because "this is what I know, and it will help me be successful in the future", and while thats true, again, it does so much to you and it is pretty difficult for MOST people to fall out of the lifestyle.
Plus I take it you're WAY older than I am. You had a better understanding of the world when you enlisted than I did. You probably had better reasons for enlisting, such as family or you needed to pay bills. I joined straight out of high school to itch my patriotic scratch and to impress my pops, plus I was sick of school and wanted to finally start living life. My reasons are almost exactly the same as MANY people my age who joined, and there's no denying that...why else is the military marketed towards high school age men and women most heavily? It's because they know we more than likely don't know much better that things can be much better on the outside. How are you gonna market the military to someone who is already making a living and living comfortably? Unless they're a selfless person, they're gonna tell you to fuck off.
Like you said, it's a way to get up in the world. But it surely isn't necessary, and while the military does it's best to make up for what it takes, there really is no way of getting back that missed youth, that missed last bits of someones adolescence. And that's what a lot of people like myself don't understand either until it's too late or possibly never at all. No matter how bad you have it when you're young, you can still make it through without joining the military.
>>734146638 you are a retard so typical of military grunts... where did i say i hate the military --industrial complex...quite the opposite. you are a typical loser getting his masters in his 30's whereas i got my Ph.D in my 20's..only the internet allows for such random discussions between a loser like you & someone far above your status
>>734146707 True. I mean, I'm sure it does see limited use in the field by special teams and shit, but definitely not enough to warrant the hefty price tags that come with it.
Personally, I wish that the military would throw more funding to teaching soldiers how to survive in the civilian world (which they do have programs for, they're just not widespread) and a system set up to help those who quit the military and need help on how to properly adult and shit in the real world. A lot of soldiers finish their 4 years and head out with good ambitions, but then wind up not amounting to much and possibly even ending up homeless.
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