>>734102137 A distinction has to be made between the type of consent an adult can give and the type of consent a child can give. An adult can agree to the entire thing. A child can agree to one step at a time.
>>734101845 does this actually have a substantial amount of followers besides a couple of neckbeards posting about it on twitter and sarcastic shit posts on 4chan in an attempt to defame LGB community?
>>734104197 They can withdraw from continuing the activity at any point. You can tell if they want more, if they don't like it, or if they're completely uninterested without them explicitly saying it. If they look uncomfortable, confused, they say "no" or "stop", for instance.
>>734101845 If your tiny brains are incapable of determining if something is right or wrong you need to ask 2 questions. >Is it possible for everyone to do it? >Would it be bad if everyone was doing it? Pedophilia is something everyone is capable of doing. If everyone was a pedophile, how would this impact society and progress?
Homosexuality is incomparable, as it only affects those in that mind state and is not possible for the entire population. Thus it is accepted, since those that live that life did not choose to be made that way. Also they very rarely reproduce anyway, so why not.
>>734102137 But children can consent if they're fucking someone around the same age? Because there are tons of 13 year olds consenting to fucking each other all the time and no one gives a shit. Why does it magically become wrong when the other person is over 18 and they lose the ability to consent with them?
>>734101845 From an evolutionary stand point yes when girl start having there first menstrual cycle, look at how thirteen year olds dress now days they all want it, perfect example cash me outside girl. Its all perversion we were only made to have vaginal sex das it no anal, oral etc. I would say gays and trannys are more disgusting as its counter- evolution it's just what society perceives, look at Muslims they deem pedos as okay but gays and trannys as wrong vice versa in Western society. But if the girl is innocent and doesn't know what's right from wrong I would consider that not okay. One big word it's all PERVERSION and all a sin.
>>734102269 this sentence means nothing. So in amsterdam pedos are now considered humans and not inanimate objects?
What do you mean by granting them equality? Are pedos allowed to vote in amsterdam now? Despite being attracted to children? Are they allowed to drive cars? Drink beer? Learn spanish during evening classes? Has the world gone INSANE?
>>734101845 I disagree. Someone who likes underaged girls is simply pushing the envelope. But homosexuality is just sick. In a perfect world, pedos would be regarded as edgy and creepy, fags as degenerates and pariahs.
>>734104696 Sometimes the "long time consequences" are just because our society makes it a bad thing, the person says: "I had sex when I was 12", the other goes, "I'm so sorry, do you need help? who did this to you?" Fuck child rapists tho
The legal problem arises because "rape" is rather hard to argue and prove. It's usually one's word against the other. In THAT situation a child is severely disadvantaged compared to an adult. Hence why a child cannot give legal consent.
This is completely independent of recognising and taking pride in pedosexuality the same way homosexuals or transsexuals take pride in their sexuality.
>>734105717 that depends on the law. Lots of places has that its still illegal for 2 13 year olds to have sex but they are exempt from punishment. So they are not able to consent and not able to be punished
>>734105300 People could be plumbers and other things, the world wouldn't need the plumber profession, because everyone would be able to fix thir own plumbing problems, the world would have no waste of household water and damage due to leaks. If everyone was a plumber, the world would be a better place.
But if everyone was also a pedo, it only means people would start having sex since they were born
Common sense should help to evaluate pretty much everything. So let me ask you this: If you had some kind of machine that will tell you 100% accurately if fucking this 12 year old will ruin his/her life or make him/her into a perfectly functioning member of society, would fucking be okay if the machine tells you it will be fine?
>>734105725 I'm OP. And Back! I'm muslim yes. I think LGBTP should be banned, but if you allow gayness. Why not the other? Why should homosexuality be better?? In the Bible it is forbidden. All brainwashing from the media...
That's bull shit, the long term consequences are often physical too
>Damaged reproductive organs >STD's >Some girls become incontinent after their rape
Then there is the untold mental damage which occurs. Could you sleep right after your fat hairy brother/uncle/step brother/random guy forces himself on you at random? Nah pedo's only deserve to be outcast from society
Just because I screw around on /b/ doesn't mean I'm a fucking retard. Of course I disagree. There's a huge damned difference between fucking a mature adult and a child. It's immoral, it's illegal, and pedophiles should be jailed and/or shot.
A child is completely incompetent to make a sexual decision. And only because a full grown man/woman has had a shitty sexual life because of whatever, doesn´t give them the right to ruin a childs life.
I don´t say all pedophiles should be hanged. I in fact have also a lot of respect to pedophiles who have such feelings but never live them out, or even look for psychological help.
It's weird how many tardwits are repeating the conventional claim that a kid of 12 or 13 is simply incapable of consenting to sex. And this is always coupled with the idea that if she does have sex, it will ruin her life. When I was in high school, most of the attractive girls were fucking by 14. I doubt fucking a year or two earlier would destroy them. What's really weird is that we give kids the same age all kinds of respect for changing their gender, and we open up planned parenthood to them for abortions without parental consent. I don't see how repeating the same tired normie cliches about how having a birthday somehow changes everything is an argument.
Raising a child is more about loving and caring than knowing Algebra and shit. Of course having a job is helpful. I personally would'nt want to get a child before having a well paid job. But a lot of adult parents still get help and advice from their parents and other family members when raising a child. So if a 14 year old human being is able to love and care for another human, he/she is also able to raise a child. I am not saying that the scenario is perfect, but you make it sound like the kid is doomed from the beginning. It's not like being over 18 or 21 turns you into a perfect parent imo
>>734107231 I accept people have the desire, I not accept they acting out that desire. If I am the only person on earth believing its wrong to burn a witch, I would not change my mind. Its still wrong.
Your opinion is fine, even if it's wrong. I don't mind if you think the earth is flat, Allah is great or CoD is the best game ever made. I'll just call you an idiot and move on, you can still stick with your opinion tho.
>>734101845 I've said it before on /b/ This is being pushed next. Sex dolls that are kid size are real. Experts in msm websites saying that it's for pedos to help with their urges and it's okay. Just slowly but surely. I'm sure in our lifetime. They will make it the new norm. They'll use the ol muh feelings
>>734105248 - " Go clean your room" - " No, mom, leave me alone" - " Do it or you're grounded" And boom, there goes your magical consent.
This argument is flawed because it uses ignorance as an excuse that children can't consent. The irony is, that same ignorance is used to disregard a childs consent or dissapproval. I've seen children being less ignorant on some matters than you average 80 y/o's. Does that mean they have the right to consent, vote, drink, smoke, etc? Kids these days know more about sex than your average 80 years old. Yet nobody cares if you fuckk a granny who cant remember what she ate for breakfast, People need to realise that turning 18 doesn't make you automaticaly a responsible person. It only makes you such in the eyes of the law. If you are stupid and ignorant you're gonna make poor choices regardless of your age and no age of consent laws can do shit about that. I'm not advocating anything btw.
>>734106967 why is anyone suitable to raise kids? As a social worker I occasionally come across 30 year old mothers who leave their babies in the same shitty diapers for days at a time, fathers who stub out cigarettes on their toddlers arms to teach them a lesson about life, alcoholic 20 year old parents who leave their kids to be raised by the equally alcoholic grandparents
If a 14 year old can produce milk to nurture the baby then thats a good first step.
Other than that, well again, I have dealt with people who become parents at 14. Their lives are generally fucking messes and so will their kids be.
Of course this was all in low income trash families.
It would be inteesting to see what would happen to a baby if it was born to a rich well to do 14 year old with supportive parents and a stable family situation, rather than it invariably being the unwanted result of underage drinking and familial neglect
I honestly can't believe how delusional some of the people in this thread are. Pedophiles are just so incredible lonely that they turn to preying on children to satiate their sexual desires. These people should be given no quarter.
>>734101845 I think pedophiles should be more accepted. The truth is that children CAN consent, and even when they don't, the people that rape them are assholes and are the ones we should be worrying about. I've seen a ton of people say that pedophiles should get the death penalty. Let that sink in. Someone with a sexual preference should be killed for having a "strange" attraction. That's fucked up. I can totally understand repeated child molestors getting the death penalty, but come on. I feel like so many people are taught in society that pedos are all bad when in reality most of them are just regular people. I hope one day that people relax and only worry about the bad guys.
>>734107582 No but again they'll cry and bitch anyways. They'll want the real deal and they'll say it for the name of love. They get all delusional about they think some nice little girl is being a nice kid wanting to play a game and the pedo pervert is like we're in love!! Little girl be like wtf?
>>734107293 >Raising a child is more about loving and caring than knowing Algebra and shit.
You are very naive. There is intense stress and strain on a new mother, postal natal depression? There is the constant strain of being responsible for a life that depends on you solely for it's survival. There is never getting any rest, constant fatigue.
Yes people long into their 30's still receive help from parents, this is how family unit's work and it's needed but after a while your expected to go it alone.
You are saying a 14 year old which struggles with school and just cope with child birth because it can 'love'?
>>734107717 I honestly can't believe how delusional some of the antis in this thread are. Anti-Pedophiles are just so incredibly psychopathic that they turn to preying on public scapegoats to satiate their sadistic desires. These people should be given no quarter.
>>734107604 >https://www.pornhub.com/insights/2016-year-in-review You don't know how porn customers work. Honeslty, they don't fix on teens or under. They need boobs and big asses. "Teen" or "Barely legal" are jsut words, meainin 18°. I tried to make a website with teens only niches, with some very very discussable pictures on sale pages. Total failure.
>>734107422 D00d stop telling people to blow other people up, and rape them, and throw acid on women without veil, and cutting girls clits, and stabing people, and cutting the hands of petty thieves, and cutting the heads of non believers, and killing apostates, and so on and so forth.
>>734105717 Exploitation. Two 13 year old banging is considerably different than a 30 year old banging one. The maturity levels are so different there is no way to argue that this is not a result of manipulation and/or exploitation. However, a 30 year old with a 47 year old is different.
>>734107927 We both don't know that, but maybe. He could get all high on his delusion, and think he can take her and tell her we're gonna go get some ice cream, or something. Maybe the pervert is calm about his fantasy he built up in his head.
Usually two responsible adults will decide to raise a family based on financial stability. Now there is less emphasis on this because the state will raise your child for you.
You as a social worker must agree, a 14 year old girl from an average back ground simply isn't mentally developed to deal with any aspect of child birth or mother hood. There is alot more to it than 'they can produce milk'
>>734107293 What kind of selfish asshole would saddle a fourteen year old with caring full-time for an infant, when the fourteen year old should be having a kid's life of volleyball camp , pool parties and kid stuff.
>>734108186 I used to observe that fags had the same marriage rights as anyone else. They could marry someone of the opposite sex to whom they weren't related and who wasn't already married. Same rights as me. They never accepted that argument.
>>734108450 Shut the fuck up. Made 5000USD/month with some fucking TGPs. Run a porn business before talking, asshole. Teens and lower productions are free on tor. Nobody will but that shit, it's fucking free. Go to hell, sucker.
>>734108601 If they don't know any better then they shouldn't be allowed to fuck each other. Yet they are. It's not that they don't know any better, it's that they have sexual instincts like everyone and we allow it to occur without supervision or guidance because of our hang ups on human sexuality.
>>734107401 >Physically and mentally children are not ready for sex. There is no two ways about this, no studies, nothing. Quite a lot, actually. The people who published these studies had their careers ruined, though. I wonder what (((political agenda))) could have possibly been behind that. https://pastebin com/rtwHRvbW
>>734108869 True, but if we assume that the sexual impulse is a genetic imperative from nature directed towards dumping spunk in vagoos, then it's more natural to want to drop your batter in a clutching 14yo twat than in a man's alimentary canal. I'm not saying one SHOULD, but on a scale of degeneracy, the latter is sicker than the former.
Fucking pedos. How could anyone get off to the idea of removing a little girl's clothes and licking her tiny body all over, nibbling her neck and kissing her adorable little nipples? Only a heartless monster would think about her cute girlish mouth and tongue wrapped around a thick cock slick with her saliva, pumping in and out of her mouth until it erupts, the cum more than her little throat can swallow.
The idea of thick viscous semen overflowing, dribbling down her chin over her flat chest, her tiny hands scooping it all up and watching her suck it off her fingertips is just horrible. You're all a bunch of sick perverts, thinking of spreading her smooth slender thighs, cock poised at the entrance to her pure, tight, virginal pussy, and thrusting in deep as a whimper escapes her lips which are slippery with cum, while her small body shudders from having her cherry taken in one quick stroke.
I am disgusted at how you'd get even more excited as you lean over her, listening to her quickening breath, her girlish moans and gasps while you hasten your strokes, her sweet pants warm and moist on your face and her flat chest, shiny with a sheen of fresh sweat, rising and falling rapidly to meet yours.
It is truly nasty how you'd run your hands all over her tiny body while you violate her, feeling her nipples hardening against your tongue as you lick her chest, her neck and her armpits, savoring the scent of her skin and sweat while she trembles from the stimulation and as she reaches her climax, hearing her cry out softly as she has her first orgasm while that cock is buried impossibly deep inside her, pulsing violently as an intense amount of hot cum spurts forth and floods through her freshly-deflowered pussy for the first time, filling her womb only to spill out of her with a sickening squelch. And as you lie atop her flushed body, she sighs breathlessly and her fingers dig into your back as she feels your cock hardening inside her again.
>>734109114 I am concerned with the well-being of children. Denying them a fun, natural, pleasurable activity that is crucial to their emotional and mental development is why we have such high rates of autism these days.
>>734109140 You still cannot prove sex with children is necessarily a bad thing. They seek it out. They can orgasm. They are attracted to other people. Why this fixation on repressing their natural drives?
before contraception people had kids cos they liked fucking
so as a society we implemented safe guards to ensure that those who were unable to look after a child would not be able to have them: I.e enforcing a no sex before marriage morality and applying an arbitrary age of consent for examples
But you are quite right, I do not think that 14 year olds should be having children if they do not have the adequate social network and financial support required to raise it
>>734108859 except that when the hormones kick in you really, really want to start having sex. Seriously, did you ever try toucjing yourself when you were a teenager? Down there I mean? Seriously, if you didn't, you should try it now. Just stroking your genitals. feels good doesn't it? That's what it was like for me when I was 14 at least. Maybe your parents turned you into a castrato at 8 or something. I don't judge.
So, I'm a social worker and I get to deal with a lot of child abuse cases. A lot. When we suspect that there is a case of child abuse in the family of a very small child, such as a toddler for example, as well as examining the child(ren)s underwear, we will sometimes go through old nappies (i love my job) looking for signs of vaginal or anal bleeding.
If the child has been groomed over the course of a couple of years by a careful abuser then there is not that much damage actually. Thi sis when the abuser has for example used toys and mild penetration over a couple of years to gradually make the child more open (in both senses to the word) to sex.
There is a big debate regarding the psychological damage caused but I have found on the whole children who have been subjected to several years of abuse have also had the threat or implied threat of violence, ostracisation, seperation etc hanging over them.
One guy we had have seemed genuinley surprised to hear that they have been damaging their daughter, saying that they loved the child and would never do anything to hurt them. That the anal bleeding was just an unfortunate sideeffect of their love making and he hoped that it would eventually stop happening and that he kept promising himself that he would be gentler the next time etc etc.
To be fair though, I have more sympathy for the pedos than I do witht he violent ones. We sometimes get people who are physically kicking the shit out of their kids or are just neglecting them. The very worst cases is when there is violence, neglect and sexual abuse. Those are the cases I masturbate to the most.
>>734109491 You are aware that hypersexuality and being very social creatures is what makes us human, not killing each other for no reason. That's not to say we can't be conditioned to associate some of our own kind with predators.
>>734109328 >You still cannot prove sex with children is necessarily a bad thing.
Holy shit, your not paying attention at all. A child want's to play with traffic, it seeks it out, it cannot cross the road. Do we let it? No. No we don't because as adults we see that it will be to the child's disadvantage.
It would be like you at age 11, you can get hard, you seek out sex. Should I as your parent let the 40 year old trucker next door fuck you in the ass? You want it and what do I know I don't want to 'repress your natural drive' Fuck it why not its an ace idea.
>>734109317 yeah thank god pedos never gain access to kids. otherwise they might start producing sick pictures and videos that other pedos could jack off to. Or just systematically abuse a family member or child of a close family friend for weeks, months or even years. or imagine some sick fuckos travelling to countries where they could just buy access to kids to fuck mercilessly away from the legal repercussions and moral stigmatism of the west
>>734109719 Me too, actually. I just happen to think a guy being attracted to a 13yo girl is more normal than a guy who wants a cock up his ass. I'd be happy in a society that treats all perverts as pariahs.
agree. it's not illegal to have thoughts yet, pedos have done nothing wrong. but even homosexuals and women can molest somebody, and that's wrong. i don't think it's wrong personally, but it's against the law, so it's wrong.
>>734107909 >my business failed, therefore I have ethos, believe me and what I say.
You can't sell porn in an age where porn is free. And smart browsers don't touch new websites anyway. The fewer sites you visit, the fewer invasive pop ups you invite onto your device. So it's better to use one or two of the mega sites with tons of choices available. Starting a new porn site is almost doomed to fail in the beginning, unless you can offer something truly groundbreaking, like how Brazzers puts out OC all the time and they make it entertaining and relevant to pop culture.
It's common sense people jerk it to youth. "Barely legal" is searched because they want to get as close to kids as they can without bringing themselves any trouble. The fact that the phrase "barely legal" exists at all and is searched is proof enough. Same goes for teen. If the "legal" age was lowered to 16, everyone would jerk it to the 16 year olds. Same for 14, 13, 12, etc.
I'm not advocating for fucking children. I trust psychiatrists who study this shit over my thought exercises. Kids should be given the best chance they have at good lives. But to pretend the human race isn't hyper attracted to underage girls is fucking stupid. Girls aged 12-14 were married off all the time until recent history. Juliet, from Romeo and Juliet, was 13 in that story. So don't give me that bullshit.
>>734106044 >evolutionary standpoint >Trusting a 14 year old to look after a new born? 14 y.o.'s were women for most of human evolution and took care of their kids. Your post's points conflict with each other
at 10yo i would have been happy fucking a mature woman. I remember a teacher in particular Damn that was a dream. And i dont think i would have been "scarred" or whatever, more like proud of it. Am i the only one ?
>>734110472 it would be my own fault for consenting or not saying "stop" when it hurts. quit trying to make every single case about big dick hurt rape and use that to denounce all forms of sex. adult women get raped and hurt too, should all adult sex be illegal too? if I was 11 and got to fuck Mrs. Dean, I would have, she was hot
Why is anyone even treating this "well can a 14 year old raise a child" argument seriously? They just want to have sex with pubescent humans, not make babies with them before they're older. It's literally a strawman argument.
>>734110556 >eat it and fuck it nope. never, ever eat it, that's for betas. fucking it? possibly maybe if she's sterile or you're fixed. don't want her to trick you by getting pregnant and ruining your life.
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