Why are people who have tattoos such trash? They make these impulsive and permanent decisions and then complain when you don't hire them. Surely I'm not the only one who feels superior when talking to one of these low life scum. Tattoo hate bread.
>>726938297 Tell me when you woke up this morning. Why is this the first thing you thought of and decided to hate on? Did a guy or girl with tattoos turn you down or reject you in some way. Let's get to the root of the issue here OP.
>>726938450 >>726938297 Depending on how visible the tat is I do not hire people at my place of business. If they got face or neck tats then no. If they have a sleeve then leave. I don't care what they do with their bodies as long as my employees look somewhat uniform.
>>726938450 No I hate you because you are an attention seeking whore who hides behind the guise of being a deep and mysterious person with these symbolic and personal meanings on them. When really you do it so someone will talk to you and you can tell them about the bullshit message behind it.
Tattoos are degeneracy. It's an easy way to spot people who aren't going to make it. Notice how many elderly people you see with tattoos: most die before they reach that age due to their impulsive nature.
>>726938297 Speaking as a small business owner, I would never hire someone with visible tattoos or piercings. I have a lot of older clientele who would be put off by it. Is it fair? Probably not. Is it real life? You bet it is.
Am I impulsive? Rash? Stupid? No. I got something tattooed on me that means a lot to me. I had to think about it for months before making my decision. My tattoo is something dear to me. I bet you are just jelous I(and other tattoo people) have something to care about. You are pathetic.
>>726938847 You can't run a law firm from your basement you fuckhead. I doubt you'd be qualified academically to even submit your resume regardless. An edgy shit like you would be lucky if they could make copies of documents for me.
I work in a highly professional setting at a large organization, and I can confirm that visible tattoos are a huge red flag. Do we have people with tattoos? Yes. Do we allow them to represent us? No. Are they climbing the professional ladder? Not a chance.
But, if your reality is that you are a mechanic or some other blue collar or service related job, I don't think your tattoos would be as much of an issue.
I have 2 tattoos. One I regret, one I love. I will not get another. My second tattoo is perfect and hidden unless I go swimming or some shit. Tattoos are definitely a teen's sort of thing. I don't mind tattoos, but if you are nearing your 30's and still getting tats, you've got issues. And to all people that get a "sleeve": IT DOESN'T LOOK GOOD. NOT TO ANYONE. ONLY YOURSELF.
>>726939477 Yes, of course. A business owner with a customer base that's over 60% women in their 40s and up. Sure sounds like an Alabama hillbilly to me! Obviously, the top tier Forbes 500 companies are run by people with their faces covered in tattoos.
>>726938297 most tattooed people that I have met where/are fucking scum one fully tattooed guy that i use to work with had 5 kids and told us he smoked pot in front of his kids every night so he could sleep. i called DHS on his ass and they took his kids... HAHAHAH
>>726939267 >>726939359 These people know whats up. These trump-tards taking over the board and trying to convince everyone that the only decent human beings are the ones that are just workbots are getting out of hand.
All I know is that grills with tattoos turn me the fuck off.
>be me >4 years ago >fucking around with this grill >kind of my girlfriend >kind of not >it's a weird situation >but the sex is just too good to pass up so we fuck like rabbits >things get kind of complicated >I don't trust her >she doesn't trust me >wat do ? >don't see her for a while >invites me over to her apartment one night >drinking and talking >"oh hey anon check this out..." >takes off her shirt >reveals large tattoo on her side >"oh..." >the spell is broken >no longer interested
We talked one or two times after that but I haven't spoken to her since. Such a turn off...
>>726939739 When did we start talking about hiring ex cartel members. Face tats are another realm altogether. Where does having tattoos come into affecting a persons ability to do a job less than one without tattoos? I understand that looks are everything, and first impressions blah blah blah but come on sir.
>"I'm so insecure, I have to try to imagine I'm superior to people for an arbitrary reason".
I know the senior manager of a pharmaceuticals company, who regularly jets first class between London and Boston. She has at least a dozen tats, including one right over her collarbones. Are you higher up the business ladder than the senior management of a billion-dollar company? Doubt it.
I know a senior Civil Servant for the British government, who works in policy authoring between Westminster and Holyrood. He has a full-size back tattoo, and arm bands on each arm. In fact, I designed one of them for him. Are you in a position of national government as a civil servant? Doubt it.
I know a woman who works in the city in finance, who has a rose and thorn tattoo that curls under her left breast, up over her shoulder, down her back, round her hip, around her thigh, the side of her knee, around her calf, and ends at her ankle.
plenty of others, and most of them are successful business people.
Sounds to me like you're just a failure at life who's trying to find an excuse to hate people.
>>726939492 You work in a highly professional setting. At the same time you're on a site that would automatically make you a red flag if anyone knew you browsed it. You discriminate people with tattoos, but I can bet you "highly professional" people are the same ones creating Loli threads, or horrifically racist ones. You're so upstanding!
what's so wrong about a person liking a picture or message so much that they want to put it on their body? so what? it resonates with who they are and if they choose to express themselves then so be it. quit being a judgmental cunt
>>726939395 I have a tattoo of a mechanical spine up my spine and a mechanical sternum on my sternum. I am an engineer. Who's boss has tribal tattoos on his arm and neck. Totally getting back at our parents.
Tattoo's are fucking stupid. People who have them think it makes them interesting.
You wake up one morning, and realize that you're fucking boring. You're a useless, unskilled, one dimensional loser who constantly tries to feign deepness and introspection. You have nothing of note to say, nothing original to provide. So you go out and cover your body in shitty permanent drawings in some desperate ploy to make you appear the exact opposite of what you are. You lack the ability to express yourself properly so you need to put it on your skin for everyone to see. It's vain and shallow. If you have tattoo's, you are a loser.
I work for myself as a painter and decorator, I have a few tattoos on my face of paint brushes and rollers and I have plenty of work. I'm usually fully booked for 2 months at a time at any time of year.
This is the problem with the American work force. Because you pay someone for services rendered you think you have the right to tell them how they can and can't live. Unless they are getting tats while on the clock it's none of your concern
>>726940045 The fact is, I know my customers. I'm not some super wealthy oil magnate, I just run a small shop with 4 employees. It's in a very conservative, suburban area with middle to upper class residents. I talk to my customers every day. I know what they like and their expectations of us. And, the fact is, a lot of older women don't see much difference between a cartel member or someone covered in ink. Once more, I'm here to make money, not cater to people trying to make a statement.
>>726939628 Posts like this make me think 90% of 4chan users are white Midwestern soccer moms and cuck daddies shitting their dumb opinions and lust for trump all over the boards because real life people are tired of their dumb asses thinking anyone gives a shot about their bleak, mundane lives.
>>726940552 It sounds so shallow, but it just really, really turns me off when a chick has tattoos or crazy piercings. I was unbelievable how quickly I went from sitting on this girl's couch, thinking "oh man I think I really like this girl," to "yeah I'm over it."
>>726940389 >You wake up one morning, and realize that you're fucking boring. You're a useless, unskilled, one dimensional loser who constantly tries to feign deepness and introspection. You have nothing of note to say, nothing original to provide.
>>726940669 So your customers are a bunch of bored white women with sticks up their assets and a love to bitch. What's your business? Do you sell obnoxious perfume? Overly large costume jewelry that everyone knows is fake as Fuck?
>>726941279 No I won't read it because I've heard that same argument used every time. "Oh look I know someone with tattoos who is successful. Ignore the majority of losers with tattoos OP! We aren't all the same!!"
>>726941143 It's just an automotive repair shop. Nothing fancy. I'm not a multi-millionaire. But my customers are loyal and send me lots of new customers. My waiting room has Women's Day and other magazines of the sort... as well as Sports Illustrated, Popular Mechanic, etc. It looks like a person's living room. Couch, comfy chairs, TV, fish tank, etc.
If I was located in the city where lots of tattoo'd people were my customers, I might do things differently, but then again, they probably wouldn't be bringing me their Lexus, Audi, Lincolns, etc to work on. You simply don't make a lot of money from people who can barely afford their Honda Civic.
When i was 14 i got a few small AB marks and swaks, i was in a detention center for some dumb shit i did while young. Is it better to cover them with appropriate tattoos or just get them blacked out? All opinions are appreciated.
>>726941322 I'll keep that in mind when I check my investment portfolio next week. I don't care if it pisses you off when people won't hire inked up applicants, but that's the real world. Your actions dictate the outcome in your life- from education to how you look. It all matters.
That's the point. You think you're doing something so deep and meaningful and expect anyone else to give a fuck about your feelings. you wanna parade your insecurities on your skin? then put a bandaid on your vagina and fucking deal with when someone does exactly what you wanted and looks at them and judges you.
>>726941541 If some cunts are gonna have a problem with a tattooed person working on their car they really are bored, idiotic cunts. But if you want to pander to that be my guest. Makes you seem like a cuck, but at least you're a cuck with money I guess
>>726941709 >I don't care if it pisses you off when people won't hire inked up applicants, but that's the real world. Your actions dictate the outcome in your life- from education to how you look. It all matters.
There it is folks. Disagree if you will, but this is reality.
>>726941777 Is there a home remedy to remove them? I dont really have the money to get those liberal laser treatments. >>726941791 Thats what i thought, but im 20 now. Are there time constraints on when you can cover something?
>>726941709 If you have an investment portfolio one must question why you're posting on a website for fat neckbeards to beat their meat to cartoons. Oh wait you're probably 14 and making all this up because the cool senior with the arm tattoo beat the piss out of you and shagged your mum
>>726942002 It's highly unlikely this guy has a garage full of prissy looking mechanics who look like they study engineering or something. He is probably studying mechanics at college and dreams of owning his own garage. He wants to get a tattoo but either his older brother or sister got in trouble for getting one and he doesn't want his parents to confiscate his xbox so he isn't getting one. And now he is mad at people who do have them.
>>726942002 Just take a step back for a second. I assume you feel tattoos are simply a normal personal expression that no one should care about. Say you have a business in a really classy neighborhood. Very upscale. And you need a receptionist. You have 2 applicants, equally qualified. One was a woman in her mid-20s, dresses conservatively, and is well-spoken. The other is a 300 pound neckbeard, covered in acne and cheeto dust, wearing a gamer t-shirt and cargo shorts. He uses regular internet slang 24/7
Who do you hire, and why? Remember- they are both equally qualified for the job.
>>726942262 lol, i would have agreed with you a long time ago, but i have 2 black half little brothers now and they mean the world to me now. >>726942273 I really like the look of water color tattoos, would those be to light to cover heavy black ash ink?
>>726942575 Bullshit. To some people the neckbeard would be as equally offensive as someone with an inked up face. The fact is, in business, it's the customers perception of the business that matters, not mine, and not my employees.
>>726942790 Like when you talked down to people with tattoos. Making sure the poster knew that people who smoke weed are not to be seen in the same light as people with tats. At least a tattoo just sits there, you are filling your lungs with smoke and putting chemicals into your body to change your perception of your own shitty reality.
>>726938297 I don't feel superior to folks with tattoos, I just feel like people who have them are prone to making decisions that aren't too well thought out. They also seem like 'im crowd' people, no matter what crowd they may be in with. Tattoos have lost all their weight in my opinion, people once used them to separate themselves from normal people so to speak, no you see dumbass 16 year old girls with tattoos and even accountants can have swallows on their necks - it's just kind of lame and cliché.
>>726942862 Work with your artist and come up with something cool with them. Watercolour may be too light, but depending on the size of the old tats, they can usually hide it with come clever shading and a lines to mask them.
i live in a small town, that has a lot of wannabe country kids...the first one that pops in my mind was this kid, senior in hs, scrawny as fuck but obsessed with the marines, who got a full back tattoo and went around taking his shirt off everywhere and bragging. I dont hate all tattooed people, but god damn was that autistic
>>726942862 >anon is racist af and gets swastika tattoos to celebrate racism >parent gets blacked and anon gets two new black siblings >anon learns the true meaning of unconditional love and realizes the error of his past ways >now desperately looking for ways to remove visible, permanent racist symbol
>>726943461 So, I should ignore my customer's expectations and hire some inked up freak just to ...what, spite them? Basically say Fuck You to the people who are MY bosses? When my customers see something they find offensive, they stop being my customers. I just don't get how people do not understand this basic fact of business.
>>726942666 Hol the fuck up there, are you mad at people with tattoos for wanting to talk to people about them, or mad at people with tattoos for not wanting to constantly talk about them? You can't have both, retard. You're just angry in general, which shows bc the shit you are angry about contradicts itself. If your life is so shitty that other people putting ink on their skin can ruin your day then fuck man, feels bad. If it doesn't then stop whinning you cuck.
>>726942424 Depends on the job, the conservative woman would be shit if I'm trying to run a game store or internet cafe, plus, hurrdurr conservative women are more likely to pop out more than one little crotch dumpling so theres a lot of maternity leave. Fat neckbeard is just trying to waste time inbetween gaming sessions and chicken tendies, so if its working with computers, video games, comics, he'll work hard for you for close to no pay as long as he gets a 5% discount on merch and the occasional free promo t-shirt from whatever faggy franchise he's vaguely into at the time. Your question already has bias, you think I'm instantly gonna go with conservative woman because thats your ideal, but you forget, that on 4chan, we're not all cucks. You clearly are, but not all of us are.
>>726943690 Whoa buddy, I'm just saying that your predudices are obviously being projected onto other people. Most people don't give a shit about other people and largely ignore everyone. You obviously have a belief that everyone is a busy body piece of shit, because you're a busy body piece of shit... oh and a cuck.
>>726943690 what if the tattoo isn't visible? most people get easy to hide tattoos just so it doesn't wreck possible job opportunities, except at you place of business of course because this>>726941460
I think its generally agreed upon that face/neck tattoos are people you typically wouldnt hire. But there are plenty of industries where having a sleeve of tattoos is allowed and not discriminated against. Most tattoos are covered by business attire so you couldnt even know who has them unless they actively flaunted it.
Tattoos are meant for the person getting them, not for other people. Having them always visible can upset people, but I think people are becoming more tolerant of them
>>726943517 I love laughing at my own life, and you nailed it guy. My mom and stepdad are terrible meth addicts, and have recently had two kids who i love more than anything. I only got marked to fit in because you did not last very long if you didnt have a group. People make mistakes anon, Im just glad i was presented with an opportunity to learn from mine.
>>726943880 Because WHO doesn't work? My customers all have money to spend at my business. They're driving mid-upper range vehicles that need servicing. I have culled a clientele of customers that don't want to be treated like a number at the dealer and simply don't trust the chains like Pep Boys, Firestone, etc.
Tattoos are like casual clothes that you can't change.
If you have a tattoo which is easily concealed then thats your choice.
If you have one always on show thats less cool.
If you work in a professional environment or in the healthcare industry for example, by revealing that unchangable mark, you are making a statement about yourself.
Whether that was your intention or not, it does.
It says that here is a person that can't be a serious individual even when i go to work. the whole point in appearing smart or uniform is to present the idea that whichever individual you talk to you will recieve the same level of attention/care/professionalism from whichever person you talk to. or in the case of uniforms, so that everyone is you know, uniform, the same apparent level of quality.
By bringing a tattoo into the equation you are saying im not equal to these people.
Of course other people may just think youre a fuckwit for getting a tattoo, honestly its your choice, but 'cos it looks cool' isnt a great start for getting a tattoo. also its not discrimination. people dont get hired cos they dont wear a suit to interview or because the interviewer doesnt like how they present themselves. Its not any different and it's their choice.
>>726939395 And as we all know, a tattooed person with the same, or better qualifications as someone without one will always make less money than someone without. As someone also in charge of hiring, you are choosing the wrong traits to look at if you are trying to hire the best people you can for your company. If you're hiring, say models then sure, but it seems like you have a massive bias towards people who's outward appearance makes you feel comfortable, often at the cost of a better employee. Not a great screening process.
>>726944423 I worked at a Dell hospital where doctors had ink and my team lead had a full sleeve. Didn't affect me none nor any of the work we did which is what we're here to do at our jobs right? Work?
>>726943993 This is why we need IDs back. I've said that I know my customers. I talk to them every day. I can't begin to count the number of older women who say "Oh, I used to go to that place, but they have people covered in tattoos."
>>726944632 nice straw man, i was simply giving you my opinion of the people you serve based on the info you provide. i wouldn't think for a sec that you should waste your time enlightening people, especially if you're the one doing it.
OP I'll put it pretty simply so that maybe you or anyone reading this can see where I'm coming from.
I'd like to state that I have no tattoos so I'm impartial. There's a lot of fucked up stuff in the world. Granted, some of it is warranted, but a lot of it isn't. You can better your quality of life if you live and let live. Meaning only use your time and energy on something if you have to. People with tattoos and piercings will probably always exist so why even bother? I think we can both agree that we've seen a few that are pretty awesome and/or a hot girl with tattoos. My point is it's their money and body not ours so we shouldn't really care. If you own or manage a business and choose to not hire people based on it that is your choice as a business owner; but, there's no need to hate anyone over it.
I have ideas for tattoos but most of my ideas make me realize I shouldn't have tattoos there's one I really want to get tho it's small and at least it isn't a jar of mayonnaise that makes me think of my fiancee
>>726944552 I have not used that word in this thread. I can add this- the age of the hot chick Snap On calenders is OVER. The work area of my shop is always clean. We take customers out to their car, if they want, to show them the problem and how we'll repair it. My employees know to turn the radio down a little, not to swear or goof around if a customer is coming out. These are conditions of working there that I require and my people are good with it. So... no, I can say I would not hire a "degenerate".
I hire people that retired folk can feel safe and comfortable around.
>>726944174 You won't win with that one either, every conservative bitch I've ever delt with from a business stand point has been lazy, and a theif. So neckbeard if I only had those two options. See my point is you're projecting your own views about people onto people, you believe those conservative cunts won't give you their business if you hire a tattooed person and you believe those tattooed people are bad people, but its all YOU, you're projecting.
seriously though, conservative women are fucking thieves though. especially white ones, they think they deserve whatever their stealing.
>>726945055 Of course not. I would not take that gamble. There are infinitely more qualified people than there are available jobs. If I have two equally qualified candidates, and one has a visible tattoo - guess who gets hired?
If there is only candidate, and that person has visible tattoos, I can wait until a better applicant materializes.
I will not risk my profits on on someone's appearance.
>>726944928 I never said tattoos change the quality of service. I have said over and over that my clientele find them distasteful.
Let me tell you about my old boss. His name's Dale. He was about 60 and his upper body was covered in tattoos. He had a Harley and rode all the time. But, he wore a long sleeve shirt and you never saw any ink. The old ladies adored him. They'd stop by just to say hello and drop off cookies or some shit. That's the key difference. Out of sight, out of mind.
>>726944613 I'm not saying it doesnt mean you can get employed, or that it necessarily affects your work.
I'm saying it affects how you are perceived by others.
I'm saying you get a patient whose grandmother sees your tattoos and wants a different attending because they think you might be less clean or less professional.
I'm saying I know people in occupational health that have to review their colleagues and that those who have tattoos get lower client reviews, despite having similar/the same degree of professional conduct. Simply because the clients felt less comfortable when presented with someone who they perceived as less professional.
If you want to get perceived differently then thats your choice. Its like how people perceive women that wear hijabs or people with stretched ears. Its your choice so dont complain if people treat you differently.
>>726945479 >>>726945055 >Of course not. I would not take that gamble. There are infinitely more qualified people than there are available jobs. If I have two equally qualified candidates, and one has a tattoo - guess who gets hired? ftfy
>>726945211 Where my SHOP is located, is Amherst, NY. It's a suburb of Buffalo. Lots of doctors, lawyers, financial guys, etc live there. If my shop were in Buffalo, I probably wouldn't care about tattoos, but their clientele just do not spend the money that mine do.
>>726945354 lol holy fuck i love shameless and connected with chucky so much when i got out. swak in the center of my chest and i have my A and B on opposite biceps. I honestly do not support any thing to do with racism, i just needed them to not get fucking stabbed in the fucking ORZ lol
>>726938767 And people hate you because you pretend to "know" why people you don't even know do the things they do, while we all know you're hating on shit because you're an insecure faggot who needs to feel better than someone else.
I have tattoos and understand the implications of having tattoos. There may be certain jobs I will overlooked in place of someone who doesn't have a tattoo. My tattoos can be covered and I will cover them if needs be. I think if you are getting a tattoo you need to be aware that you will be viewed in a certain way, and if you decide you are doing it anyway then it's all good.
>>726938938 you see I like body art but I was also told nothing below the elbow or above the collar so I can wear a short sleeved shirt at work if needed and nobody would be any the wiser about my tattoos
>>726945708 Degeneracy is associated with moral character. Dale was an upstanding guy. My only fault for him was sometimes being too afraid to charge a fair price for work. He was a great guy but not a numbers guy.
>>726945479 Lol you're missing out, I've been refused certain work simply because of 2 piercings (nothing over the top). One guy shut himself out of business because he couldn't fathom that id have direct relations with the people he was trying to make a deal with to save his business ... The deal fell through because I casually told the other side over a beer why he had fired me before a week was over, they laughed at his inability to see my value in our line of business.
In my experience body mod people are about as likely to be a good or bad person As someone with zero body mods
The answer is simple... cover them up. There are amazing products that are readily available to use. I'm in a professional field with tattoos, and I always cover them out of respect for others. If I'm comfortable with a person I will show them in non-professionall settings. But, if I'm on the golf course I still wear long sleeves to not taint someone's opinion of me before they know the work I can do for them.
>>726945784 no im presenting the idea that people are allowed to think different things and people have to answer for their choices if the outcome isnt to their satisfaction.
suggesting that anyone who doesnt agree with you is small minded or a bigot, and that people who think differently deserve to be insulted is a way to seriously enter an argument or discussion is pointless. because we are different and do think differently.
Also if it is a classic human behaviour then you enter into it unless youre supreme omgusbudlier zerg from the planet omnomchom 8. in fact youre showing just the same reluctance to accept another persons thoughts as any person that accuses of bigotry. small world.
I work in a very professional setting, everyone using suits all the time etcetc, and it's funny because one gentleman in his 50's has his whole body tattoed except in the places that are visible. It blew my mind the first time I saw it,
>>726942666 >assumes everyone gets tattoos for everyone to see >gets mad when he's told otherwise
Your problem is you go into any situation with people with tattoos with this skewed bias perception that they only got them for attention. I have no friends, and have a daily stomach problem so bad that I work from home, yet I have tattoos...for all of my no friends and co workers to see. Actually I got them because they are of things I have great passion for and know I will for my entire life. I don't give a fuck who sees them besides me. Because chances are no one will even know what they are.
>>726946534 No, as I've said throughout the entire thread, I own a shop with 4 employees. I didn't turn 18 and buy a shop. I wrenched, became a service writer, a service manager, then opened my own place.
>>726946241 Yes, people who have put great thought into meaningful art they want to have in their body don't think or care... No I'm not talking about faggots that get an upside down star or spongebob on their neck.
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