Evolution didn't create all of this. We were designed Discuss

You're wrong

>>726870093
How can this accidently happen? If you smash rocks against other rocks in space, what happens? More rocks. And where did those rock from to begin with?

Obviously God exists and he made all this shit. A reasonable person can't deny it. Even looking at the intricacy of our world, a reasonable observer can't deny a higher power

>>726870454
I think our universe is just a part of a series of big bangs, explosion into implosion into explosion again. Nature's about balance and symmetry, if there's nothing, something will start to exist to balance it out. Intelligent design is a weak ass argument and you should be ashamed.

>>726870988
>if there's nothing, something will start to exist to balance it out

That is impossible. Think about what you're saying

You're telling me that something was extracted from nothing accidently and now here we are.

??

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I love the design here

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He got lazy and designed stick figures

>Life, and growth are both proven to follow a mathematical system formula.
>People still believe evelution

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHHAHAHA

fucking hilarious.

>inb4 what formula
Bitch I ain't going to spoon feed your dumbass get educated fuckin bitch ass nigga hoe

SESH

>>726869905
You believe in Santa Claus too?

>>726870988
The only reason nature and symmetry exist is because of a natural law and predefined conditions

>>726872121
Saint Nicholas lived from 270 to 343 AD, he did great things, that's about it

>>726871290
Not accidentally, by law of nature. It craves balance, why is this any more impossible than someone else creating it? How did god come to existence? What powers fuel his?

>>726869905
Evolution was designed.

>>726871290
I'll be happy to engage this line of dialogue as soon as you have an explanation for how your intelligent designer was "extracted from nothing"

>>726872518
So who wrote the laws of nature?

ding

>>726869905
go work in a medical ward
see the most constant fucked up shit
there is no such thing as intelligent design.

>>726869905
OP is an autistic faggot that just says their "argument" is reasonable.

>>726872621
Well, the premise is that God was never made to begin with and always has been, and moreover always will be

>>726872943
which god? there are a few thousand of them

>>726873025
Um the God of the Hebrews and the Christians

OH FUCK OP MADE AN OPINION ON THE INTERNET

Not a designer, or a sculptor. Maybe - if one exists - God is more along the lines of a gardener, watching an unstable system grow into stability.

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>>726869905
What if we were designed and created by evolution?

>>726873203
I'm a christian and I'm not ashamed of it

>>726872744
They wrote themselves because there were none. Checkmate, atheists

>>726872943
so, evolution: ridiculous
fully formed presence that has always existed because "????" and has the power to create any and all things forever: sure why not

>>726873192
which is the same god as the muslims.
why isn't on of the egyptian gods stronger? I bet Ra would kick Yahweh/Jehovah's christian/judeo/muslim gods ass.

>>726873399
So laws write themselves now?
Wow. Wish that would happen in DC

>>726873538
No. The muslims worship satan

>>726873610
you're that fat kid from canada. crawl back into your foreskin

>>726873580
Laws don't exist. Patterns exist. We write laws to explain them, with respect to our own perception of them.

>>726873192
Oh so your'e talking about Allah. Fuck that nigga.

>>726873449
Ok evolution being true is like finding a perfectly functioning pocket-watch made of stone on the beach and the only thing that made the watch was chance and coincidence.

>>726873610
Nope Christain fags and Mudslimes and kikes all worship the same imaginary friend.

>>726873927
We've literally done that. Quartz. What you're describing is quartz.

>>726873927
Go take some basic fucking science classes. Start with physics and chemistry.

>>726873700
So patterns can't be defined by a specific formula?

The only reason that anything exists, even the concept of laws and patterns, is because God decided that it will exist.

>>726869905
Who designed the designer?

>>726873927
you really have logical angst issues.
dude, sorry you were lied to all your life
but embrace the fact you die. make something of yourself rather than lie to yourself.

time is short, get off /b/ and stop pondering it and lose some weight.
fuck it up later with a wife, alcoholism and cholesterol problems.

>>726873927
yeah you're right, that would be pretty unlikely.
a much more likely explanation is a dude with infinite power that can do literally anything decided to make a pocket watch and put it there.

What if it is like "the wrong bat meeting up with the wrong pig" and all of this is an accident?

>>726874035
No I meant a functional stone pocket watch lying in the sand that was crafted by time, elements and chance.

Evolution is impossible

>>726869905
Eating and breathing use the same tube, cancer, birth defects. Human body is very poorly designed.

>>726873927
>>726874264
same fagging

you're just embarrassing yourself.

>>726873927
Lol, did you just copy paste your shit directly from an intelligent design pamphlet? There were billions of watches before that one, each and eveeyone competing against eachother for survival. The tiniest little advantageous trait got passed on because the individuals with those traits did better than the others. Leading to better and more efficient systems over a long period of time

>>726874348
Yeh, that's quartz. What you're describing is quartz.

>>726874184
Actually I was raised atheist and later saw that it's all a lie

>>726869905
yourlogicalfallacyis com/burden-of-proof

>>726874368
And don't forget who would put a hazardous waste disposal system in the middle of a recreation zone!

>>726874348
You obviously don't understand evolution then.

>>726874470
no you weren't.
do you have a crush on a girl who is religious?
do you need religion so you can force your whale body on a girl?
what is religion giving you that normal human mechanics aren't.
people with intelligence don't need gods.
if you are slow I understand and as long as you don't follow the bible with the killing of lambs as you are commanded then I won't mind so much.

>>726874446
Something big-banged from nothing. That's the miracle of evolution.

Sounds crazier that christianity

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What kind of God designed this?

>>726874780
god appeared from nothing
sounds crazier than crazy sounds crazier than crazy. could also be crazier from crazy. or even to debunk crazy, it could actually be crazier than nothing.

>>726874780

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Universe_from_Nothing

here ya go buddy. Even tho I know you wont read this. Probably haven't even read your bible all the way through. If you did you would have seen through it's bullshit already.

>>726874895
Looks like a malnourished child. God designed all of this so that we can eat and drink. Mankind did it

>>726874895
an edgy /b/ tier god

>>726874950
Actually rocks in space big-banging from a flash of miraculous light sounds crazier than God always existing.

>>726869905
What designed the designer?

>>726875034
Nigga I haven't read the bible in a long time, kek

>>726875171
So if God has just "always existed" wouldn't it make more sense to just assume the same about the universe instead of evoking the supernatural?

>>726875204
God didn't have a designer

>>726874780
Back there again, are we? At least have some proper arguments if you wanna start shit, this is awful

>>726875309
Because the universe is material and the supernatural is immaterial, one breaks down and deteriorates and the other doesn't

>>726869905
Man, there's no discussion on that statement. Is just plain retarded. Evolution was a long process that's stills going on even today, but a simple human life span isn't enough to you to see it. Bealive what you want, just dont spread desinformation. Remember that being ignorant is one thing, but bealiving in pseudosciences is a whooooole nother thing bro.

>>726875369
I'm just pointing out your fallacies

>>726875455

>Natural and supernatural

Yes and one exists and one doesn't.... hmmmmm I wonder which it could be??

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>>726875171
update your definition of crazy.
or stop giving a fuck about where we came from
and worry about the future of humans

go the fuck outside, plant some crops.
people are fucking starving.
your precious sky god doesn't give a flying space fuck.
so take control and look after your fellow humans you dreamless, hopeless, aspirationless fuckstain.

What the fuck does it matter coming to a small platform such as 4chan matter to you so much?

question your fucking life, stop attention seeking.

>>726875923
So a conscience and a sense of morality doesn't exist.

>>726876025
Do you know what a brain is?

>>726875569
No, you jumped back to an earlier part of the discussion, which i already answered, because you don't have any other arguments and are unable to answer to what i was actually writing

>>726876007
God is found even in the darkest corners of this world

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>>726870454
The form of rocks could be different and horrific under our vision, but if we grew up with that, it'd be beautiful for us. That's why it depends on perspective.

>>726871780
>>726871811
>>726871876
kek good point there

>>726872598
There's just too much imcompatibility with both theories and it's difficult to believe. Evolution happens, but nothing tells us that was designed.

>>726873769
Saying that Allah is not the same as God is like saying God is not the same as Dios, it's a language difference, not a different entity - as long as it's an Abrahamic religion, it's the same god, but saying different things found on different books, as the Bible or the Quran.

>>726874470
In which way? The way to wake up is skepticism, not in reverse.

>>726874780
We atheists accept we don't know what was before the Big Bang while still trying to find it out, but Christians (and other believers) created a tale which was quite contradictory in so many points.

>>726876007
/thread

>>726876160
thats all you have to say to my argument. you just change topic. denial. you must love the attention.
forget god.

lets talk about you.
I want to understand why you are so upset.
You aren't that ugly. you do need to lose weight.
what keeps you inside?

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>>726869905

>> THIS WHOLE POST IS A BAIT OFC
>> THIS WHOLE POST IS A BAIT


I MEAN THERE'S NO ONE THAT RETARDED IN 2017, THAT IS PLAIN SIMPLE. ITS BAIT

>>726876138
What arguments do I need? We exist, therefore we have been created and intended for a spiritual purpose.

>>726876379
It'd be bait if OP was like "yoo atheuzts are niggers cant deni tha exastunce uf gawd", but instead he said "Discuss", which gave place to a pretty educated debate (in terms of /b/) ITT

>>726876378
He who has ears should listen

>>726876623
We exist, but some things happen by accident and that let other things happen. Like those bad things that lead good things to happen in life

>>726876785
He who has a brain should think.
keep throwing them out canuck

One day all of you will see God on the Day of Judgement and remember me.

Laugh at me if you want to but it will happen, with or without your opinions.

>>726873298
That's pretty much the only plausible theistic argument these days. There's too much evidence for things like evolution and the Big Bang, so the only place left for God is spiritual/intangible shit, or setting things in motion in the first place.

Evolution did create all this. It just took a unfathomable amount of time. There was a time when creatures larger then you could imagine were on this planet. Now look at us. A cuckhold race of organisms destroying the one thing keeping everyone and thing alive. Piece of shits I wanna kms

>>726876987
This is a "why God doesn't/does exist" thread, not a "God exists vs. God doesn't exist". 4chan is not the same as holding a sign in the streets

>>726876987
it won't happen baitstain.
if you even intended to feel superior you are judging then in your skylordhomo biblefuckbook you just broke a christian snowflake law.

therefore the imaginary hell for you.

practise what you preach

>>726870454
Ever heard of the causation argument? If you are willing to believe that a being such as God has existed since "the beginning", surely you can't rule out that matter may have existed instead?

>>726877092
So why is there right and wrong?

>inb4 social construct

Why do people already know what's right and what's wrong?

>>726877259
Wait and see

>>726877426
Read The Naked Ape by Desmond Morris. It's a bit old now and some parts may be out of date, but it basically lays out how most of our culture and social behaviors aren't that far away from the instinctive behavior of "lesser" animals, and all have evolutionary reasons for existing.

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>>726876623
Having actual arguments is a pretty basic element of a discussion. I've had enough of your shit

>>726877522
We might die before that oops

>>726877320
God invented the concept of "the beginning"

>>726877426
If the dinos and shit, even the little mud eating cells before the dinos never ruined any of the environment. Now look at the human race. Cause many species to go extinct, destroying the ozone layer, deforestation, overpopulation.

>>726877612
Ok. See you after we die

>>726877522
I still can't believe your mother lets you use 4chan
Since she's so flexible like that even though she made an autistic fat fuck, bless her heart.
in fact, bless her with which ever god of the thousands.

I can't wait to see your face when you realise your god isn't real.
I wanna see your lil chubby dick get hard.
I promise to cocktribute you.

>>726877749
No, you really won't. Unless you're buried in the same plot, but you'll lack any capacity to see, so it'll be pointless.

>>726877660
Can we see how he created that?

>>726877969
He has a set of blocks, and moved them around until they spelled "the beginning"

>>726877860
My spirit will see you and you will know that I was right this entire time. It won't be that long so don't worry

I've never understood why creationism and evolution couldn't go hand in hand. As a kid, if someone taught me how God created all these amazing fucking creatures that can form and adapt over time, I'd have an even higher belief and respect for said God.

>>726878151
avoid other people calling you out.
you are so pathetic.
You want the attention, then roll with the punches.
Go hug your mother. She raised you. She looked after you. no god.
shes right now, loving you no matter how much anyone can stand you.
she's a wonderful lady.
no one is tolerating you here on /b/

go love your mum. go op. go.

>>726878301
Theists don't believe he's that creative

>>726878041
Equally believable to anything else I've heard tbh

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>>726878319
Creeped out yet?
This is the world I know.

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logically reply.
you're just making yourself look more pathetic.
you keep purposely ignoring my replies.

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Hey everyone. I'm a faggot that's actually studying this shit at uni.

Alright, to the few people that are actually legitimately curious about this stuff and aren't just here for a quick shitpost:

Evolution isn't biology, it's mathematical probability, like loaded dice are more likely to land in favour of a particular number. You can believe in creationism and still accept evolution, in fact, the church funded Darwin and believed evolution to be God's work. It doesn't have anything to do with the origin of life (if you want more info on that, look up; 'panspermia' and 'abiogenesis' as they are the primary scientific theories so far).

With the whole "where did all this stuff come from?" Scientists believe that, as weird as this may sound, physics only works as we understand it recently, due to the big bang (or the big bang was caused by a change in the physics of the universe). So we know that mass cannot be created or destroyed...but there might have been a time where this was not the case.

I hope this helps.

Regards,
~Faggot anon.

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come on attention whore.
reply to my posts. waiting on you

>>726878319
There is a higher dimension

>>726869905
Riley Martin.

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>>726878664
This guy just ended all of you. Thank

>>726878664
Good shit. Clear, well written logic. Close minded theists will have a hard time breaking this down.

>>726878777
>777
God's number refutes your post, and reveals you as the false idol

>>726878843
You won't debate that canuck

You are just stating a fact, for no reason other than your uncomfortably.

>>726879242
if you are reaching for numeral statistics from a random dice throw on a forum board then others will just smirk at your cute tits.

>>726873307
No, you're ashamed of yourself as a human being. That's why you want to be christian in the first place.

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>>726869905
this bait is awful

evolution is the act of designing, the fine tuning of biological processes in response to environmental stimulus over millions of years

/thread

>>726879310
Every person in this world knows it. Most are uncomfortable in admitting it, but deep inside everyone knows God will judge them on the last day. It is all inevitable

>>726874348
>hello, I'm a Christian and I don't know how to properly explain my perspective since I only parrot what my pastor says without really understanding it

>>726879490
Actually you're 100% right. I am ashamed of my wickedness and sins.

They kinda got transferred to someone else tho

>>726879424
The heavenly digits tell me to ignore you, i am immune to your ignorance

>>726875455
>doesn't understand what matter is

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>>726879619
Well I see lots of billionaires worrying about sin... oh wait. no I don't. If the rich don't care about it, then it's not likely.
You really do avoid the question.
What the fuck do you care creating the platform?
What are you looking for? approval? trolling? are you having fun with this thread?
I am certain you are just enjoying attention.
If you are that autistic that you don't know how to interact with humans because of your appearance then how about you try a more constructive way to communicate?
If you are this dedicated then go to church, but don't reside here. You make no sense. The worst of it all is you dodge, avoid, derail, change topic and never reply to an actual argument. Don't grasp at straws, people aren't stupid. It's all good son. I can help school you.

>>726876623
>please argue for me, I don't know how to rebuke you
Sad, anon. Sad.

>>726869905
That's a really pretty picture but there's no god m8. *obligatory tips fedora*

>>726880079
Redemption for mankind

>>726876987
Same, but for you when the being you sold your soul to (that's what getting saved is) eats the energy that makes up your consciousness after your body expels it.

If God existed, why would he put people in shitty lives, why make people suffer? If God existed, then where is he? Is he like a magical wizard in the sky?

>>726880376
God didn't create our problems. We did

>>726879774
Your god will betray you. He is the deciever.

>>726880535
But God designed people to make problems.

>>726880566
To me, God is the only source of anything good in this world

>>726880637
I reckon since the beginning of existence God was just working on a really elaborate excuse to kill his son

>>726880233
Then it's not your responsibility.
You will waste a large amount of energy that you have.
you are young.
When you get older and realise that time has it's toll you will drop this nonsense.

continue the bait threads. I've got dance class. I'll be back later.

We should ban religion in the United States, then for the entire world. Religion is holding us back from progressing further. We have retards in this thread that don't even believe in evolution, but think we came from a magically wizard in the fucking sky.

humans have many problems my friend educate yourself before becoming an autist

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>>726880637
He designed people to be able to make a choice. People decided that they would like to hurt other people and lie and steal, so what people do to this world has nothing to do with what God intended

>>726880915
Religion has many problems my friend. Educate yourself before becoming a sheep to a fairy tale character

>>726880742
You'll see how wrong you are. Enjoy life while you can, because he is master of pain and suffering.

>>726881111
Quads tells the truth

>>726880792
Actually people tend to get more religious as they grow older. But okay, have fun at ballet!

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he's a canadian shock jocky, ignore this thread.

Evolution is science.
Creationism is a fairy tale.
Intelligent design is creationism's bad attempt at cosplaying science.

>>726881247
I'm surprised you don't see it already.
God owns all of this place

>>726881267
They get stupider as well, your point?

>>726870454
Which god?

>>726881267
dude. the ballet is intense. they have so much more control then I do.
I can only do hiphop and a bit of krump.
god if I could only afford ballet.

>>726881477
No point. See you at the resurrection

And I'll know it's you

>>726872136
rawrr!

>>726869905
Any number of I don't know doesn't make an answer. Also, why not believe that evolution is part of what God created? It's already obvious enough from observation, conceptualization, and dino bones n shiett

>>726881472
Oh he does. That doesn't make him good, it doesn't mean he designed it, it doesn't make you any less wrong.
It makes you just as shortsighted and gullible as all Christians.

>>726873307
Unless you are under 10 years old, you should be ashamed. It takes a special type of stupid to swallow the christian bullshit.

>>726881869
Why?

>>726882068
It's like you've never even read the Bible.

>>726869905
Of course evolution didn't create the sunset...light waves refracting through the atmosphere do that :)

>>726872099
Can't come up with a good argument

>HUE HUE HUE GET EDUCATION FAGGOT

>>726881756
You should accept things the way they are instead of how you want them to be.

You didn't create all of this, someone else did. Accept the results and consequences, there isn't a second option

>>726882423
>You should accept things the way they are instead of how you want them to be.
I could say the same to you.

>You didn't create all of this, someone else did. Accept the results and consequences, there isn't a second option
I never said I did. As for accepting consequences, again I could say the same to you. Your words are as empty as your heart.

>>726882068
1. The fact that your god is one of thousands invented.
2. The fact that your god, like all the others, comes with zero evidence.
3. The fact that the story of your saviour, jesus, was plagiarised from a centuries-older god, Horus.
4. The fact that your god and Santa are practically identical.
5. The fact that no explanation of how your god came into existence is offered.

And around a billion other facts. There are so many different ways to return to the atheist position. Yes, return. You were born atheist.

>>726882667
So what do you know about me?

>>726880742
Like the ebola virus? Like anthrax? Like ass-cancer?

Your god created these things, champ.

>>726882779
The burden of proof is on atheists to prove that God doesn't exist.

>>726882917
Where did I say I was psychic? You poor, confused soul.

>>726883070
This is bait

>>726882927
Mine?
No, lol yours too. You have a mouth, ask him yourself

>>726883070
Which god's existence do I need to disprove?

>>726883070
>>726883129
Absolutely has to be bait

>>726883220
Bait

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>>726869905
Scientific illiteracy at work.

An inability to comprehend the reality and the scale of the universe, and instead having to resort to primitive superstition. "god did it.".

pitiful.

>>726883075
You seem to know so much about my heart and myself in general, I'd like you to tell the internets all about me.

Otherwise you're just being a loud-mouth assclown

>>726872099
Bones you dumb nigger

>>726869905
The male g spot is inside his anus for what reason?
We have only one of several vital organs. For what reason?

Intelligent design is something only retards believe in because they are too stupid to see the flaws and how easily they could be fixed.

Now please sage this religious bullshit thread.

>>726869905
Did too.

>>726869905
What's there to discuss?
Your version of reality is built on anthropocentric and baseless fairy tales.

I'm sure you're very pleased with your level of ignorance, and since it offers me nothing I desire, and I do not seek to diminish your blissfully ignorant state, we have nothing to discuss.

>>726883569
What vital organs do we lack? Not religious, just curious

>>726883737

more importantly, you can drag a horse to water, but you cant make it drink.

the sum total of scientific is at that guy's fingertips, but he doesnt want to go learn the reality.

>>726883438
All I see is you making assumptions and parroting pastor-speak. Sounds empty to me. But hey, you're the one living your life for suffering incarnate.
Remember who made hell, and remember that you would not have been spared in the flood. Your god will betray you, and he will laugh as he devours you.
Remember me when this happens.

>>726870988
You can't deny we came from something or someone. We didn't just exist, there was a long string of events that occured for us to go from star dust to complex organisms with higher thought processes and the ability to create amazing things.Are you going to say you belive that long string of events was all coinsidence? And if so where did the stardust come from? I understand the big bang but where did the dense ball of matter that exploded into our everything come from? No where?