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Did the Holocaust happen?

The stories and information posted here are artistic works of fiction and falsehood.
Only a fool would take anything posted here as fact.

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Did the Holocaust happen?
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>>726669854
Yes bb go to bed
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>>726669854

sure did

the stupid nazis even took pictures

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Ho_ZFNY0I4&bpctr=1490337000
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>>726669854
who cares? it is illegal to question it so lets pls change the subject
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>>726670067
>who cares? it is illegal to question it so lets pls change the subject

wtf
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>>726669886
Where are the Auschwitz dead bodies?
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>>726670182
>Where are the Auschwitz dead bodies?

cremated and thrown into a lake

where are the dead bodies from the WTC on 9/11?
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>>726669854
Whites have slaughtered each other countless times throughout their history, why would this event be any different?
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>>726669854

Yeah.
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>>726670265
>cremated and thrown into a lake

How do you know? Which lake are the ashes in?
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>>726670412
>How do you know? Which lake are the ashes in?

because that's where they said they put them

in the fucking lake right next to the camp
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>>726670382
>Jews
>white

>>726670265
6 million people? Thats a shit load of ash. Where is it?
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The amount of Jewish people killed in the camps was around 1.5 million, the 6 million figure is the TOTAL deaths but yeah, it definitely happened.
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>>726670464

Yeah but you shouldn't trust what Nazis say.
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>>726669854

It happened, but only a few hundred thousand died, mostly from disease, the Jews blew it all out of proportion so it'd be impossible to openly question or criticize them.
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>>726670535
>1.5 million

Where do you put 1.5 million dead bodies?
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>>726669854
what kind of stupid question is that? its like the most documented event on recent history.

like literally every year theres a new movie about the itt, isnt that enough proof?
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>>726670470
>6 million people? Thats a shit load of ash. Where is it?

do you even history

it was not 6 million all at one camp, it was over many camps over years

I would focus less on "where are the bodies" when they were cremated in large creamatoriems that do exist and have been explored

and more on "why did the nazis say they were going to have a final solution for the jews, then take a bunch of photos of starving jews in their camps then document them coming in on trains and take their gold and kill them"

why are there thousands of eyewitnesses on both sides who said it happened? they are all making it up? even the germans?
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Do I believe a Germany at war with the world was completely freaked and started treating anyone with even a mildly dissenting view of Germany's new government with extreme prejudice?

Yes.

Did they try really hard to round up and murder people for no fucking reason? No.

The Germans had shitty work camps that worked Jew POWs to death, and Germany be workin workin during that war, so lots of death.
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Where the fuck are all these dead bodies? Am I being played?
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Theres an overwhelming amount of evidence that the holocaust did happen. Instead of saying "hurr hurr hurr if dey burned all da bodies, den wheres da ash??" or some other shitty conspiracy theory, provide actual evidence that it didnt happen
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>>726670763
>like literally every year theres a new movie about the itt, isnt that enough proof?
It's funny cause it's true.
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>>726670840
The fact that the "Six Million Jews" number emerged long before WWII even started.
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>>726670628
>Yeah but you shouldn't trust what Nazis say.

either they starved a bunch of jews for photo ops then lied about it or they just fucked killed them as they said they did

where did all these bodies at concentration camps come from?
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>>726669854
Seems like people on /pol/ seem to think that it didn't happen quite as intentionally as originally thought. I'm a bit unclear myself. Here's what it seems like to me, but I'm happy to look at more evidence if people have some.

They were originally designed as prison camps for political dissidents like communists, and undesirables like jews and gypsies. It's a bit unclear wether these were meant to be death camps from the start. I'm going to say that the ones in Germany seem unlikely to have been built originally for that.

However as the war went on and on, as Germany began to run out of supplies, as they sent what they had to the front lines- the camps starved. Millions of people died from starvation, disease, etc. There does not seem to be good evidence of gas chambers. As Germany started losing the war, they likely attempted to mass murder everyone in the camps. These were their political opponents after all. Don't want them in charge once you lose.

After the war, Soviet Russia certainly killed a LOT of jews in their pograms. Many of their own camps in Poland were likely blamed on Hitler. The number of jews killed by germans is likely greatly exaggerated, but is still in excess of millions. Maybe 2-4 million instead of 6. Most of the people killed were political dissidents.

So I would say firmly "yes" it absolutely happened. But it's a bit more complicated than what they try to tell you.
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>>726670932
Half of Europe was starving in 1945.
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>>726670797
>Did they try really hard to round up and murder people for no fucking reason? No.

it happened, there are witnesses and they fucking took photos
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>>726670153
He's probably a German
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>>726670840
>provide actual evidence that it didnt happen
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7dxsVSzL4HE
There you go.
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>>726669854
yes, but by far not as bad as we are lead to believe.
the 6 million number was used for propaganda for years even before the outbreak of war.

but you know. what do I know
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>>726670920
Just becuase you begin a sentence with the phrase "the fact that..." doesnt make it evidence. Post a link to a credible website
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>>726670642
They'd fit in your mom's fat ass.
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>>726670932
>dem uncircumcised cocks.
yeah anon. 100% jews
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>>726670784
>eyewitnesses
Now you just went full fucking sperg
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>>726669854
To an extend yes, but the vast majority of actual physical documentation or evidence has been destroyed, deluded, or deemed incredible by any logical reasoning. Thousands if not hundreds of thousands of Jews died during WWII along with a lot of other people like Gypsess, homosexuals, Poles, Soviets, criminals, and mentally defective persons.

There just isn't enough hard evidence to prove any of the servetly condemning aspects of the holocaust. There is just a large amount of personal stories and opinions.
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>>726670990
>Half of Europe was starving in 1945.

sorry for the fact the Nazis did this
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>>726671076
https://youtu.be/Dda-0Q_XUhk
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>>726671032
>the 6 million number was used for propaganda for years even before the outbreak of war.
>but you know. what do I know

not much
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>>726671256
See
>>726671223
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>>726670784
Ummm... yyy.. THEY ARE LYING THE JEWS PAID THEM
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>>726671256
nice argument
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>>726671256
clearly. If the lie is told enough it becomes truth right?
Also I hear if they say it on fox and friends everyone should believe it as it is clearly the gods own truth.
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>>726671223
...a random youtube video is not evidence... i want real, credible sources
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>>726671212
nazis and communists. also no guarantee those are jews and not random slavs or gypos
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>>726671030
>this video is not available in your country
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>>726671536
You mean like THE FUCKING PAPERS IN THE VIDEO
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>>726671536
https://www.newspapers.com/search/#lnd=1&query=Six+million+Jews&t=395
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>>726669854
Not in the way it has been described officially. If the official story were true, people would not be thrown into prison simply for questioning its details.
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>>726671027
Sixteen countries make questioning the Holocaust story a penal offence. What are they trying to hide?
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>>726671642
This actually made me laugh. Someone who thinks that the most documented event inthe 20th century was faked is telling me that random newspapers in a video couldnt be faked. Fucking retard
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>>726671621
Where the fuck are you from?
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>>726671076
You should do your own research, you lazy person. We'll make it easy for you, though: start with anything by David Irving. Books, YouTube videos.
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>>726671813
The fact that they are no longer liberal democracies. They start with something everyone can agree on (Holocaust) then move to "hate speech" then broaden the definition until it includes anything except the officially approved party line.

Presto, totalitarian state.
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Nein.
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>>726670932
They came from the Allies' carpet-bombing of Germany, which interrupted the Germans' supply lines and created starvation and epidemics in the camps. This was documented by the camps' commanders in their regular dispatches to headquarters.
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>>726671898
I came back to to /b/ after 2 years thinking it would be better. i was wrong.
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>>726671962
Youre trying to convince me that it didnt happen, so you provide the evidence. Thats the way it works
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>>726672120
>never heard of the burden of proof
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>>726672165
Idgaf what u believe. But if ur gonna try and change my views, u better have more than just some youtube videos to convinve me
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>>726671937
Cuckspermany
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>>726670067
Srsly its illegal?
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>>726672324
https://youtu.be/aQjNs-Ght8s

Get Woke.
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>>726672397
You can watch it on youtube.
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>>726670976
It was less Germany running out and sending it to the front, and more the allies constantly bombing the supply lines so they couldn't get food to the camps.
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>>726672415
In 14 countries
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>>726672324
do u have ANY proof it did happen? can u provide something other than youtube vids and blurry black and white pics?
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>>726671898
>the most documented event inthe 20th century
You seen much of that documentation?
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>>726670932
Starvation from supply lines being bombed.
Typhus.

What can you do when a bunch of people die from the above circumstances?
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>>726672025
The Final Solution! I thought the Jews were supposed to go to Madagascar, not to the Palestine.
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>>726672324
judging from your stupidity and how you type I imagine you're not worth even bothering with.
I'm not even that other anon, just shocked how stupid you are.
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>>726672415
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laws_against_Holocaust_denial
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>>726672619
Haavara Agreement.
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>>726669854
there are several countries where this thread is illegal.
shame on you OP, how dare you question what other before you have told you is the past?
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>>726670976
this.
the details of any historical event get exaggerated, distorted, and simplified - particularly when history's written by the victors. But even adjusting for all the distortion, it was still a disgustingly tragic holocaust that destroyed millions of innocent lives. that is absolutely true
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>>726671030

sorry I don't have 4 hours to spend on someone who has been dead 80 years and whom I hate anyway
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>>726672120
Proving a negative proposition? No, that isn't the way it's supposed to work. And, no, there's no sense in trying to convince you of anything: if you will open your eyes, you will do so, if you will not, you will not. All we can do is to point you in the direction of the conversation. MuriKKKans are so damned lazy.
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>>726672525
Eyewitness accounts from both sides? The problem is that literally nothing on the internet can be trusted unless its highly vetted by equally credible people. But, by the denier's logic, even that is called into question. Tbh i never expected to win any arguments here bc theyre literaly impossible to win. I just like arguing with stupid people
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>>726672512
I'm sure that the allies were bombing as many supply lines as possible. Especially after / during the battle of Britain.

I also think that when push comes to shove, if there is just not enough food left, the Germans likely prioritized the troops. Same thing could have happened in the USA with the Jap camps, if the war had somehow been fought there.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S7Y8TVbuT4Q
No, but I did.
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>>726670811
fuck you. you're an affront to common decency.

https://www.ushmm.org/wlc/en/article.php?ModuleId=10007147
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>>726670797
20,000 killed at the dachau concentration camp. It's tiny by comparison to auschwitz/Birkenau.
Now add Belzac, Treblinka, Bergen-belson, Sobidor, and all the other concentration/extermination camps in Europe.
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>>726669854
The camps are real, been to some myself. From the looks of them, people where probably killed there, both by work and by execution.

But the "6 million" number is just bullshit. Just do the math yourself. See the number of camps, the timespan and calculate the murders per site per day. See if that number sounds reasonable to you yourself.

>It's really illegal the question the holocaust in germany and austria too i believe.
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>>726672786
>demand evidence
>cba to look at evidence, therefore there is no evidence
Are you retarded? Also 80 years dead? Are you double retarded?
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>>726672324
trolling?

see >>726672898
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>>726672974

the post I made was my first post in this thread, sorry if you were expecting someone else
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>>726669854
no gas chambers nor shrunken heads or pelvic bone ashtrays

no gas vans, no ss officer women whipping jews, no live children and babies thrown into the ovens

and no, every single jewish inmate did not meet megeles

they have bastardized history with their whiny victimhood and financial$$$$$$$$$ 'compensation'

basically they can do anything they want and if you criticize them... you're an antisemite, hohocaust denier nazi

>fuck them and fuck Israel

PS don't mention what Jews were doing to Germans before the war shhhhhhhh!! $$$$$$$$$$$$$
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>>726672898
The Nuremberg Trial was a show trial.
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Not in the way you're told. All the pics are of dead germans after the war.
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>>726673075
Doesn't change the fact you're a retard.
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>>726672825
truth bro. I've met ppl who were in the camps. but I still don't buy the 6million number as it is the same number thrown around by jewish propaganda for years.
fact is I'm so used to the media and the government telling giant fat lies and trying to pass it off as the gods own truth that I tend to not believe anything unless I see it.
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>>726669854
its a fable, like santa claus or jesus
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>>726672898
The affront to common decency here is in insisting on a genocide that did not occur, a dishonesty on a global scale. Where indeed did all the dead bodies go? It takes an entire day and a great deal of energy to create a single human body. The math just doesn't work out. Germany had not sufficient coke (coal) nor crematoria to dispose of millions of bodies. Millions of bodies were not buried, either.
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>>726671725
They would if they were still trying to cover it up.

Covering up a crime is still a crime in most places. Your just trying to hide it from another generation of people.

Remember what happens to those that forget the past.

>Btw you better start studying sharia law. You might need it.
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>>726669854
No. They were work camps, but people died from Typhus. The zyclon b was for killing the lice that spread the infection. Auschwitz wasn't equipped with enough ovens to cremate the one million people that supposedly died there. Cremation takes over 2 hours and they only had 15 ovens. 24h(day^-1) / 2h(oven)(Jews^-1) = 12 Jews per day per oven. 12 jews(day^-1)(oven^-1) * 15 ovens = 180 Jews per day total. 180 * 365 = 65,700 Jews cremated maximum at Auschwitz. That is much less than the standard one million figure. Also the European Jewish population according to the world almanac didn't decrease by anywhere near 6,000,000.

The victors determine history, and if you are gullible enough to believe your STATE FUNDED education about this topic, then you are a simple minded sheep.
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>>726673146

fuck hitler. Austria isn't Ireland. Ethnic Austrians share genetics with south Russians and genghis khan. Attila was a better leader than Hitler ever could have been even if he had won his little temper tantrum.
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>>726673487
The fuck are you talking about?
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>>726671032

>the 6 million number was used for propaganda for years even before the outbreak of war.

So people were saying 6 million people were killed in camps even before the camps had been built?
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>>726673146
>>726673487

i'm not even denying the holocaust, or saying it definitely happened. In fact, I'm pro-holocaust. I have Austrian heritage and fully support the eradication of Carthaginian/Irish Niggers.
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>>726673085
What exactly were they doing to Germany before the war?
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>>726673580
Hitler was a fake name, goy. He was Irish.
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>>726673660
He's saying that the "6 Million Jews" number predates WWII.
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>>726673433
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>>726673355
>Remember what happens to those that forget the past.
this this this
>false flag attack on mosque
>laws introduced to "protect" islam
>oopps we sharia law now, all your women will either convert or be raped
p.s you can't show dissent for your government or a religion which preaches rape and amputation as capital punishment, go canada!

meanwhile in nazi germany during the 30s:
>false flag attack on parliament
>oh hey give me and my goonies more power, it's for the protection and safety of us and our goonies, don't worry world
>oops we annex europe and through the world into another war the scale of which is danm near apocalyptic

WHY ARE PEOPLE SO FUCKING STUPID
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>>726673355
You're not making any sense. No one gets thrown into prison for saying that John Kennedy wasn't shot, they just get laughed at. Covering up a crime requires the foreknowledge that a crime was committed: what we're saying is that there was no such commission. And you give away your lack of understanding by using the pleonasm "sharia law": shariah says it all.
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>>726673743
I'm sure he was black too, like Jesus and Lincoln.
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>>726673881

http://www.irishcentral.com/roots/the-irish-hitler-the-strange-tale-of-bridget-hitler-and-the-nazi-leader-156889665-237617891

I know hitler's real name. It isn't in this article, but I'll tell it to you if you beg.
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>>726673660
It was the supposed census of Jews in Russia in the 1930s. MI5 picked it up and used it for their psy-ops efforts.
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>>726673992
It goes back before the 1930's.
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>>726673992

The census figures showed around 9 million Jews.
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>>726673987
No, thanks. I don't believe in Hitler anyways.
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>>726673839
But it did happen. Buy denying it your basically helping to cover it up.

And as far as sharia law. Try whining about evidence when Mohamed starts cutting off your families heads. It will be against the law to question the prophet or his people.
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>>726670976
>There does not seem to be good evidence of gas chambers.
Except for, y'know, the gas chambers
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>>726674223
>Except for, y'know, the gas chambers
Which, y'know, don't exist.
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>>726669854
My grandfather was in the OSS, he saw it first hand when they liberated the camps.
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>>726674363
Okay so there's a bunch of camps with Jews in them they collapse towards the end of the war and people starve.

Not a genocide.
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>>726669854
lol, no who the fuck told you that?
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>>726673786
Judging by the rest of the retard tier replies, I am the only one here who browses /pol/ lol.
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>>726674363
So was mine and he saw nothing when he liberated the camps.
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>>726674363
proof?
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>>726674223
You mean the concrete showers? That didn't really seem to have any way to "gas" people except for some conspiracy theory level shit. Materials that they just wouldn't have had access too / bothered with. That would have been less efficient than other methods of death.

Listen, not saying it couldn't have happened. But I don't see much evidence for them. I think a lot of the propaganda during the war got mixed in with the actual events following. Things like the increased Jewish death tally and gas chambers.

This is not really me saying that the Nazi's were too nice to use gas. I have a feeling they might have if it was available and efficient. Just evidence points to those factors not being necessary / the case.
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>>726674511
You're a fucking liar. But what ever.
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>>726670763
dude, you're showing your gullability
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>>726673987
>I know hitler's real name.
Shekel-grubber.
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>>726670920
i believe this to be true also
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>>726673833
dubs of truth
why are all my posts sagebombed?
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>>726674568
Where is your proof then? Got none? I think you're the liar here.
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yes, maybe next time they'll get it right
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>>726674744
Go suck you grandfather's dick, liar faggot.
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>>726673433
Forgot to mention: Auschwitz was only in operation for a year. That is where the *365 operation at the end came from.
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Waiting for JIDF to shut this thread down.

Also, bless that smart cunt who identified the pile of dead "jews" with uncut cocks. I never would have noticed that...
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>>726674511
Then... if he saw nothing
What was in the camps

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rHTxSdN1iuY
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>>726674914
And the famous gas chamber at Auschwitz was built by the Poles after the war ended.

https://youtu.be/_c9oIVwDM6Q
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>>726674868
I thought so.
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>>726674958
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>>726674613
so what are you implying? why would they lie about it?
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>>726675100
You don't want them to answer that
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>>726671106
criminally underrated
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>>726674977
Well, nothing. And that's what he saw.
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>>726670763
also every year there is a new spiderman film. means its true right.
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Are you the same anon with the holocost denial thread by any chance?
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>>726675247
OMG Spiderman is real. I had no idea.
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>>726675247
what is your opinion on ISIS videos?
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>>726675423
must be! cause they keep making movies about him ;)
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>>726675418
>holocost denial

What an odd term.
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>>726675079
If those faces represented an entire group, I'd do my utmost to enslave or irradicate them too.

>inb4 judging a book by it's cover
Just look at that shit!!!
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>>726675532
70% crap and lies and 30% staged propaganda by IS
honestly, more than half the shit u see is decades old passed off as new. believe nothing and question everything. There is always an agenda.
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>>726675765
>propaganda by IS
>wanting the world cop murica to bomb the shit outta you

why would they do such stupid thing?
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>>726672583
not put them in concentration camps
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>>726675532
From one große Lüge to another, eh? ISIS is suprisingly convenient for those who would enlarge the totalitarian state. And not for anyone else.
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>>726676189
The Japanese in America got put in Camps too.
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>>726675689
>If those faces represented an entire group
All the pretty ones are in Hollywood.
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>>726676425
Fletcher Hills, just outside of San Diego CA, was a Japanese strawberry farm before the war. When that Japanese family were released from camp after the war, they found their farm had been appropriated by a real-estate developer named Fletcher who became a millionaire by subdividing the farm into homes.
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>>726676655
That's fucked.
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We all know how completely awful and worthless jews are. With that in mind it seems obvious to me that this whole holocaust thing is bound to happen again. When it does we can't go having two events in world history called the holocaust, so I suggest that we call the second go 'round the jewicide.
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>>726676655
That's super fucked.
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>>726672552
Is it at all possible that different camps had different doors?
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>>726676814
"Holocaust" is an ancient word, originally used for religious offerings burnt whole. The Turkish extermination of the Armenians at the beginning of the twentieth century was also referred to as a holocaust. But leave it to the Jews to appropriate the word for themselves alone, just as they have done with "anti-Semitic". The Jews aren't the only Semitic people on earth (in fact, most of them are Ashkenazi and not Semites): the primitive Christians and Arabs of Palestine are also Semites, which makes Israel the most anti-Semitic state actor on the world stage.
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>>726669854
Yes it absolutely did.

It'd be silly not to question all of the individual anecdotes, precise estimates of victim toll, etc, given their sources and subsequent use as propaganda I don't doubt that both are exaggerated to some extent. But there's no shortage at all of both reliable eye witness accounts, written, photographic, other physical, etc evidence to prove beyond any doubt that something very like the popularly portrayed holocaust did indeed happen.
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oy vey the 6 gorillion will not be forgotte n
you antisemite, remember the 7 gorillion
we can't let trump get elected, he hates the 8 gorillion
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>>726677203
There was a US engineer, a guy who worked for the prisons that employed gas chambers, who went to the concentration camps in the 1960s (I think) who documented the physics and construction of each place. He got discredited for reporting his findings. You can find out more about him on the debunking sites. There's an interesting interview with him on YouTube. I don't remember his name, sorry.
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>>726672552
>LOOK AT ALL THESE GAS CHAMBER DOORS
>WHY WOULD STATES THAT HAVE STRICT LAWS ABOUT SAFETY OF PRISON PERSONNEL HAVE BANK VAULT DOORS FOR THEIR GAS CHAMBERS?

Fucking retard
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>>726677463
>>726677656
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>>726676055
they are not a bunch of goat fucking sand eaters. not the ones in charge at least. they want gullible peons to do the goat fucking and dying ya know. and whats the best way to attract said twits.
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>>726677656
That's not the point you fucking moron. The question is, why wouldn't the Nazis?
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>>726677864
>the ones in charge

you mean the CIA?
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>>726678134
;)
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anyone mind if I just sit back and watch this troll festival?
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>>726676736
>>726676832
Yeah, everyone shits bricks about the German camps (casually overlooking that there were also gays, gypsies, Huns, Poles, etc.) and no one talks about what all the other countries did with their suspicious citizens. The Japanese treated the Koreans and Chinese abominably, arguably worse than the Germans treated their prisoners. And the US made the Mexicans round up their Japanese as well -- Kingo Nonaka, one of the founding fathers of Tijuana and the town's first photographer, was sent away to die in Mexico City.
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>>726669854

I think the real question is, was it a good thing to do? Would the world be better without jews?
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>>726677487
Found the references.
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>>726678794
you linked my shitpost goy
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>>726669886
It didn't happen and im going to bed bb
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>>726678746
I dislike the idea of doing away with one entire group of people. We would be better without screaming authoritarians in every culture. And Israel is a form of cancer.
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>>726669989
Fuck up
Jews made nazis with their money otherwise nazis wouldn't be anywhere without jew and frankist(rothchilds) money
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>>726669854
are holocaust survivors real?
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>>726670067
Hahahahaha
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>>726678603
yes thats equally fucked up but the point made about the whole jewish part of the holocaust is te jews where above all te primary target and was wiped out at such an insanely efficient rate
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>>726670639
Yep, they were also deeply involved with zionism(satanism) and knew about values of people and how that could benefit them by providing false info to trigger values.
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>>726670763
Ok bro think about this for 1 minute

People who are payed
People who aren't
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>>726679169
Concentration camp survivors are real. I have known at least a dozen of them. Olivier Messiaen (a French Catholic) wrote his Quartet for the End of Time while enjoying German hospitality: its unusual instrumentation was due to the instrumentalists at his disposal, but thus documented the presence of a piano, cello, viola, and clarinet in the camp he was at. Not the deathly hallows we are expected to imagine.
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>>726678603

>picture of ring
>'to Halfling'

waitwhat
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>>726670639
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>>726670932
Those could be non jews, why do you say they are jews in the photo
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>>726679587
they hated hobbitses precious. hated thems forever
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>>726670840
>overwhelming amount of evidence
You mean overwhelming amount of repetition mistaken for actual different and conclusive evidence that doesn't exist.
Dumbass
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Arbeit Macht Dick
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>>726671032
Yep is true
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>>726669854
it's actually illegal to say it didn't, that should tell you what you need to know.
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>>726669854
Yes. That was easy.
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>>726679339
The Jews were the most populous target but the gays, gypsies, and mental defectives were also important targets. The theory that the Jews became a target because of Rothschild meddling in Germany's currency is plausible (and not the first time to occur) but, as Tom Lehrer used to sing "everybody hates the Jews".
https://youtu.be/CgASBVMyVFI

As to being wiped out at an insanely efficient rate, that seems to have been roundly debunked by now. There were as many Jews after WWII as before and there was no efficiency in any of the killing … until perhaps the carpet-bombing by the Allies caused widespread starvation and disease.
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>>726679587
Häftling means 'prisoner'.
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NO THE HOLOCAUST DID NOT HAPPEN YOU STUPID JEW THE JEWS MADE IT UP DUMBASS
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>>726677917
Because the chambers were in a fucking camp of rickety barracks not in a concrete prison.

Because the doors they used were good enough.

Because nobody fucking cared if Hans the gas chamber operator developed a chronic cough after a while, because, oh, look, we just sent another 100,000 of our soldiers to their deaths on the Eastern Front, and would Hans perhaps prefer to join them instead?
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Yes
Will it happen again?
Yes
Why?
Because people in general are scum.

Next time it might not be Jews.

Any way one group of people can segregate another and convince a populous to perform heinous acts is when it will happen.

Race won't matter
Religion won't matter
Politics won't matter

If the main populous can separate one section as inferior, the minority is subject to abuse
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>>726669854
Without going into my own personal take on whether or not it happened, I'll say this:
If it DIDN'T; the US would've come out of WWII looking the worst, for dropping 2 atomic bombs on civilian populaces.
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>>726669854
Only in Hollywood
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>>726670932
>just cuddling to stay warm. Well known method to survive cold.
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>>726671023
>People getting on a train.

Proves it!
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>>726676655
How well do you think an American in Japan would do if you were living there and America sneak attacked Tokyo today?

I'm just wondering.
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>>726670642
if you spread them over five years and about a hundred camps, and a burn a few, and just throw the rest in pits, it doesn't take much imagination to see that it is easy to do. About the same number of Russians, Ukrainians and poles were killed - just left dead at the roadside and in their fields and houses. six months on and the rats and maggots have done the work - easy to get rid of.

why is this hard for denialists to think about? fear of big numbers? lack of basic math? lack of understanding of basic biological processes?
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>>726670639
yeah yeah, and Dachau had a swimming pool, yeah yeah.

why do you believe these lies?
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>>726681050
...Point.
Gassing jews story is an effective way to ensure at least second place in the pariah of WW2 rankings.
I wonder why there's not more effort to bash Stalin harder? His highscore was apparently 4x that of Hitler's.

I guess Stalin's target audience was more varied, and it was harder for ze jews to steal the spotlight on that one. Possibly better if the world didn't know for them.
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>>726670811
well it happened eighty years ago, so the maggots haven't left much. You do know bodies rot, don't you?
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>>726682128
Stalin didn't lose. Easy to paint the worst evils & atrocities on the losers. Also nothing to lose by pissing them off.
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>>726673433
but also forgot to mention that they didn't cremate them one at a time, that no one ever said that they cremated all the bodies, and that the camp authorities complined to the makers of the ovens that they were not efficient because the designers had come up with a system where the fat from the bodies would help fuel the fires, but the starved prisoners didn't have enough body fat to do that.

I just do not get why you are so keen to let mass murderers off the hook.

My grandfather was at Dachau - if he was alive now he would punch your lights out for denying what he saw.
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>>726673839
but you are saying there was no commission without any good evidence for that belief. and in the face of good evidenc that the nazis went from a plan to export all jews to Madagascar to a plan to let the Warsaw Ghetto jews die of starvation and disease, to a plan to murder all that could not work and work the rest to death. It is all documented. It is all sworn to by Nazis. it was all witnessed. Your silly "where are the bodies" shit is just demeaning. To yourself.
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>>726681050
bombs didn't even do the harm.
firebombing of tokyo was 100x worse than both nukes combined.
then there's the fact that the american prison camps were worse than their nazi counterparts
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>>726683184
>firebombing of tokyo
Christ; firebombing of Dresden for that matter.
Nukes got the attention though.
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>>726674914
Auschwitz 1 was opened in 1940. so basically, you are talking bullshit. 2 and 3 opened after that, along with 40 plus satellite camps.

your argument is factually totally wrong.

but hey, keep up with the edgy anti establishment stuff - once you can grow a beard you may grow out of it.
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>>726675244
where was he, and when?
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>>726676425
but did not starve them, beat them and work them to death...

nice deflection attempt, but no comparison
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What I don't get is, why, after deciding they were going to slaughter them all, would they continue to ship them to camps to do it there; expending the manpower & resources to do so at the height of the war? It would've been easier & left LESS of a trail to simply execute them in the cities they'd conquered as they went along.
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It did, and I'm glad it did. It might not have worked, but it was a good start and a wonderful display of progress in fighting the jewish scourge.
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>>726670797
Tons and tons of people (women/children/elderly/sick) were marched straight off of the trains into the gas chambers, do not pass go do not collect anything at all but your death.
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>>726683581
But why not execute them where they were found, if that was the goal? The Germans were far too efficient to have wasted so much effort, transport them all that way, simply to gas them immediately.
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>>726676425
Where they were treated humanely until the war was over. Big mistake either way. But plenty of food and shelter and no being worked to death.
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>>726670412
And the Vistula river.
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>>726670470
There were hundreds of concentration camps and dozens of extermination camps you dumb shit.
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>>726670920
Bullshit
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>>726669854
Yes, especially the electric floor and the roller coaster, those things happened the most. Trillions died. Give shekels.
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>>726683627
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>>726669854

YES, it happened.

There are 6,000,000 survivors that can confirm.
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>>726669989
(((sure did)))
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>>726682032
>HARDLY ANY EVIDENCE THROUGHOUT 60 YEARS OF RESEARCH
>6 MILLION SKELLINGTONS DISAPPEAR WITHOUT TRACE

Fuck off kike
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>>726670628
Agreed, we should listen to the survivors that were gassed four times
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>>726671106
hey...yeah! what's going on here!?
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>>726677841
Rofl like a hyena, should post this on every ylyl
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>>726684413
ww2 didnt happen because 60 million skeletons disappeared without trace
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>>726669854
us army did it
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>>726677407
MOAR
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>>726671023
>they took photos
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>>726669854
Yes.
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>>726671023
You can witness whatever the fuck you want when you cut and paste your own photos.
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>>726679129
Maybe they deserve it for being such a backwards barbaric race full or autistic suicide bombers and women beaters, not that the jews never beat their women or kill/maim/rape and use Palestine children as bullet cushions, the jews are golden lel
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>>726684693
lol are you for real? I mean before you posted this it was all funny but youve given quite the performance.
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>>726684334
It's not even clear what your autistic picture is trying to say.
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>>726669886
/thread
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>where are the bodies?

Fucking morons. There were 740 million people in Europe during the war. More than six million Europeans died every year even before the war. No one ad's, "where are all the dead from the past seven decades?"

Six million died. They're gone. It's not fake and you're a stupid cocksucker if you believe otherwise.
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>>726680875
and the surrounding nations like czech, hungary,,, i would like to believe the holocaust was fake but i think you've just proved it
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>>726671256
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>>726669854
Funny thing is that aside from 6 millions Jews Germans gassed about 5 millions Slavs, gypsies, freemasons, fags, mentally ill and political dissidents. I dunno everybody keeps forgetting about it. Even if there wasn't any Holocaust the Germans still gassed millions people.
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>>726684334

That's quite a lot of smoke for 6,000,000 corpses only.
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>>726684983
This.
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>>726684905
>It's not fake and you're a stupid cocksucker if you believe otherwise
Ad hominem just makes you look like an ass.
It's known that history is written by the victors; and the victor's goal while doing so is to paint the vanquished as the clear, obvious evil to be defeated, while making themselves appear as virtuous as possible.
Trying to shut down questioning of history just makes the motivations for doing so look suspect. And this is definitely a scenario where the numbers simply don't add up to what's in the "official" texts when you start looking closely at it.
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>>726671898
Red cross documented it well actually.
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>>726684983
The 5 million extras number is fictitious.
Someone here has the picture of the text where some (((american))) offficials are talking about how they came up with the number.

"Still significant but less than the jew number so as not to overshadow it".
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>>726684983
Mostly from typhus.
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>>726684116
There were also mass graves, not everyone were cremated, which were found and documented (and often looted).
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>>726684864
That the photo of burning jews is actually an overlay from a fucking movie dipshit.
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>>726684983
Much of this was based on falsified Soviet evidence Stalin pulled out of his ass; to divert attention from his own atrocities.
It's not like there was much of an opposition to it nor "will" to question it at the time...
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>>726669854
how come no one questions stuff like the cambodian genocide and the armenian genocide?
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>>726684840
Not an argument, also you're welcome
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>>726685083
Dude, there are fucking records. The numbers do add up, quite arithmetically in fact. It's a well documented event, dumb ass.
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>>726685083
ur not funny
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>>726685506

sad but true.
circumcision by rabbi's teeth.

rabbi Schneerson got repeteadly sued for spreading herpes to newborn Jews.

talk about Religion + Hygiene
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>>726685404
Which movie? The only name mentioned there is ghost adventures, which is a new TV show. Maybe the Jews who "faked" the picture times travel to the future?
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>>726684984
>6 million Jews were all burn to death at the exact same location and the exact same time.
Nice strawman mate. Are you really that retarded?
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>>726685599
>It's a well documented event, dumb ass
This will be my last reply to you if you're going to continue to use ad hominem. Attacking me instead of my arguments belies a weak mind and position.
Remove the jewish "firsthand" accounts. Then remove Soviet evidence. Both show too many signs of unreliability & (at the very least, in the soviet case, outright fabrication). You'll find what's left is not enough to base any "solid" accounts or numbers on.

>>726685635
I'm not attempting humor.
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>>726685829

ok, then tell me:

X = number of killing places
Y = number of killing days
Z = mean of killed Jews in a day at a single place.

Why do you think it's so easy to get the X*Y*Z = 6 million, using only reasonable values for X, Y, and Z?
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>>726685404
That's not what the picture is saying you autistic faggot. It says there's a TV show, ghost adventures, which showed this picture and claimed it was from another incident.

Basically some faggot American producer of a shit-teir TV show asked one of his intern to Google up an old picture that looks like a train accident and this is what the intern came from. And braindead daniers like yourself take this unreliable source as absolute pure truth, since it fit your agenda.

Once again deniers prove their own stupidity and worse, that they don't even understand their own shit that they post.

Fucking kek.
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all of the Jewish propaganda has a strict numeric (and historically impossible) prerequisite:

- number of Jews entering camps is somewhat constant.
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>>726686385

constant over time.

that is, once first Jews get arrested, the others stay there - possibly waiting for many years - until they get arrested.
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>>726669854
jews still alive so o guess that not :(
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>>726669854
Errrm yes
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>>726686215
X = Google every single pogrom, camp, gettho and camp in Europe.
Y = (1945 - 1933) * days in a year.
Z = what do you even mean by that? Like ways of killing? starvation, shooting, medical experiments, burning.

Over 60 million people died in total in WW2 how come you don't question any of those victims and only the Jews? How did a fucking 20 million Russians died that's an insane number! But they did.

A lot of historians did the calculations you're asking. The data is online. Instead of asking questions like a retarded faggot go and answer your own questions (I already gave you hints to some of them) and see if it adds up.
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ITT I learned that Holocaust deniers really are retarded.
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Yes, now fuck off back to pol
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>>726686648
They seriously are.
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>>726669854
Of course not faget.
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>>726686089
Fucking tard
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Yes, what are you retarded?
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Funny how all the daniers arguments boil down to WHERE AR ALL THE SKELLIES?? but when asked the same about other WW2 casualties they go silent.

Pure autism.
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>>726670382
White slaughter is irrelevant. Yes Jews were killed in the holocaust en mass. All conquerers have been genocidal. Including niggers.
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>>726669854
ITT: Either/and/or a bunch of war vets over 100 years old; some outright racists; or simple, gullible fucks who believe whatever teacher & the TV tells them, without questioning it.
Who have the gall to call people who think for themselves, critically, "retarded".
Pot, meet kettle.
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>>726669854
No didn't happen, just a well made hollymovie like starwars and the moonlanding
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>>726686648

agree, most of them appear to be retarded.

but it's because they feel something is wrong but they can't properly explain (not their wrongdoing: just the fact you Zionist zealots have more elegant slogans) - thus they use a few slogans.

"Something is wrong". Let me explain the concept with an example from different thing.

It's like when you consider that your grandpa paid "three years wage" that house, and you will have to pay "thirty years wage" a similar house.
You aren't a Financial Expert Advisor, but you smell something fishy between 1960's economy and 2010's.

Same applies in front of the 6,000,000 survivors talking about Holocaust and asking compensations 73 years after the so-called "facts".
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>>726669854
Even if the Nazis didn't kill one civilian life under their control AND it's one giant Soviet & Jewish conspiracy, they still diverted war efforts to keeping people locked up in camps. The Germans were in short supply or men and materials. They could have used these prisoners as soldiers. They made sure these hell holes were kept open and running until the bitter end. Even with the most generous of reasoning of why people died in the camps, it's still gross negligence. Which is still an atrocity and war crime. At the very least, the Nazis were monsters who treated people like animals. They were no better than modern day SJWs except with guns and taken to the intellectually logical conclusion.
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>>726669854
Never happened.
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>>726687072

if Nazis were "monsters", what are Israelis who "treat" Palestinians?
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>>726687072
See, most can not make the distinction between "deniers", and those who simply are questioning the official records & presentation of things. But as soon as you start questioning things like numbers & whether or not "official" accounts are accurate, you get grouped in with the outright deniers.
The cognitive dissonance is staggering; it's like we didn't JUST have a fucking war where the evidence supporting it, presented as fact, was GROSSLY inaccurate & partially fabricated (Iraq).
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>>726669854
I was only following orders. A cog in a machine.
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>>726687193
monsters

obviously.

stupid question.
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>>726687193
The Palestinians mortality rate and infant mortality rate is one of the lowest in the middle East (and lower than even some European and south America countries), all while the population in Gaza rapidly growing. They have hotels there, museum, houses by the beach and very nice places. Sure there are some shitty areas too because they are sandniggers and elected a terror organization as their government, and every other year that said terror organization (Hamas) starts a round with Israel which fucks them up. But their life is pretty ok.

You are either a retarded sjw or a sandnigger to buy the pallywood sandniggers propaganda.
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>>726687281
Kind of like a modern drone operator does.
>Oops, wrong target; civilians. Not my fault...
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>>726687193
That's fine if you want to consider Israelis monsters. I'm not here to defend Israel. I had ancestors who died in Andersonville prison during the civil war. I can still say the union government was bad along with the way the confederate government neglected Andersonville prison.

On a side note; Ayn Rand who had no love lost for the socialist state of Israel decades ago, still was able to call out the Palestinians for being "brutes and savages".
related: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2uHSv1asFvU
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>>726672512
Two birds... One stone
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>>726687193
>Terrorist in UK run over people with his car and shoot people around, getting shot by police.
Oh so sad! Our prayers and thoughts with UK!

>Terrorist in Paris shoot people, in Nice run over people with a truck, getting shot by police.
He suis Paris!

>Suicide bomber in Boston
Oh so sad!

>Shooting in Brussels, terrorist being hunt down.
That monster hope he get caught!

>Terrorist stab and shoot civilians in Israel, end up being shot

THOSE MONSTER ISRAELIS!!!!! MURDERED INNOCENT PALESTINIAN PROTESTOR!!

2017 never looked so autistic.
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No it didn't happen and won't ever happen.
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Yes it did bye mate.
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>>726687258
I think the concern of questioning the numbers, which is a debate I'm personally willing to have, is of the way leftist intellectuals treated Robert Conquest and the numbers the communists/international socialists killed. They tried to down play the number if not outright deny the reality.

I always thought it was odd that we can still argue about the number killed by the Nazis, as if it was only 1 million killed it would suddenly make everyone sleep better at night. Even if Hitler killed the upward number of 11-12 million,that's a rounding error compared to the soviets. Never understood why we feel the need to hash out this number when the gorilla in the room is ignored.
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>>726673191
Not Santa
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>>726673191
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>>726686648
Half of them are just trolls. But the ones who are serious really are the bottom dwellers.
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>>726673191
M'lady
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>>726686576

It is an accepted idea that most of the killings happened between about 1941 and 1944. Auschwitz–Birkenau supposedly eliminated 1.1 million people between 1940 and 1945. My rough math brings us to 646 people killed per day. An absolutely ridiculous amount of waste to deal with over the course of four and two thirds years. Even crazier is Treblinka, which ran for 15 months and is supposedly responsible for an output of 800,000 corpses, or 1700 per day. Do you have any idea how fucking huge the fire would have to be to incinerate 1700 people every 24 hours? Pretty fucking big, that's for sure.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mRO04q_lQi4&
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>>726679565
Messiaen was in a Stalag - a prisoner of war camp. with other captured combatants, from the french army. he was not in a slave labour camp, or a death camp.

if you don't know the difference you should do some research and learn the difference.

idiot.
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>>726687057
So there are 6 million survivors?
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Course its true.
It's so true that its illegal to question it.
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>>726669854

>People have slaughtered each other countless times throughout their history, why would this event be any different?

FTFY
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>>726687680
To me, it's the motivations behind the numbers being ratcheted up that's the source of curiosity. When the numbers are more realistic, the playing field for kills becomes much more even between the axis & allies, & incidents like the firebombings in Japan & Germany stand out much more starkly.
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>>726688159
Yeah that makes sense. There has been a bit of revisionism to make the allies look better in the history books. I guess it makes the allied countries sleep better at night that there is bigger monsters than them. War is terrible and I think if the Nazis aligned themselves early on with Great Britain and France to fight the Soviets, this wouldn't be an issue that they killed people.
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>>726684524
>>726684413
think he got you there, racist idiot.

plenty of evidence in the first twenty years - including all the stuff at the trials, and plenty of eyewitness accounts. deniers only got popular once the eyewitnesses started to die, and the evidence was depleted by time.

your fanatical hatred and prejudice does not make your lies true. But it does show how another mass killing can easily happen. (where did all the bodies go in Cambodia - Pol Pot did no wrong! Where are all the bodies in Armenia, the massacres never happened, where are all the bodies in Syria, ISIS have not killed anyone!)
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>>726687867
FAAAAAAAKE!
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>>726684968
don't get your logic. French jews were almost wiped out - half a million. German half a million, polish three million, Hungary and Czech best part of another million - there's your six right there. add the others... easy to get to that number.
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>>726684983
actually, like you, most people do not forget these figures. And the Jewish community also cites them. it is not that the jews monopolise the holocaust - they talk about the roma and the slavs as well.
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>>726688791
>French jews were almost wiped out - half a million.

OOOOOOMMMMMMJJJJJJJJ !!!!
compensation!!!!
compensations!!!!!!!!!!!
le French Holocaust!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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>>726683291
oh vey, bad nazis, they even did this to us.
cut your bullshit Shlomo.
you should explain people what pic is and and it means.
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>>726669854
Time stamp or it didn't happen
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>>726688905
Really? I can't think of a single mainstream instance where jews openly shared this tragedy with another demographic. Maybe that's how it is in Ausfalia.

Everytime I question the jews' exclusivity in this event, I get shitcanned.

I wonder how the LGBT community feels about their "loss" being wiped away?
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>>726680763
delete this now goym!
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>>726685404
lol
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