After another successful thread, lets go again Ask a gun

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>>724730271
ak47 vs ar15?

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>>724730271

How many people do you see who try to buy a gun, start filling out the 4473, and then realize that a misdemeanor domestic violence charge is a lifetime ban on owning guns and make up some excuse and bolt out of the store?

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>>724730271
Is kimber reliable? Do you sell them

how do you feel about selling death ?

>>724731002
-10/10 b8

>>724730271
How do gun laws generally affect your business?

Do you support any gun laws both state and federal?

Which ones do you oppose with the utmost disdain?

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OP is slow and probably retarded when it comes to typing quickly. Get out while you still can.

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>>724731002

Please, obesity and heart disease kills far more people per year than guns do. Go yell at the teen manning the drive-thru window at your local burger joint ya pussy faggot.

>>724731177
not op, but i used to work in a gun store.

i live in a very liberal state, so you couldn't buy "assault weapons" UNLESS they were made before sept 1994. so the owner bought a bunch of "pre ban" "assault weapons" and made shit tons of money selling them.

>>724730271
How many blacks have you killed

>>724731116
might be.oh wait,I remembered I live in a country with no mass shootings and gun related deaths.hell, the things that kill people here are car accidents and heart problems.

Have you spotted any undercover ATF in your store using entrapment techniques?

Has the AFT changed in their gun store engagements since Trump took office?

>>724731002
I buy death all the time and i am still of live

>>724731272
still ,I don't have to worry about instant death even if walking in a bad neighbourhood.and the cops are chill because they know they won't get a surprise bullet.

>>724731403
>mass shootings
if that's your strongest point, it's a very weak one.

out of 317,000,000 people, the gun deaths here make up a fractions of all death. especially when you consider the fact that it's mostly niggers killing niggers with handguns.

>>724731403
>might be.oh wait,I remembered I live in a country with no mass shootings and gun related deaths.hell, the things that kill people here are car accidents and heart problems.
I'll keep my guns, money and freedom. You can keep the change and free shit that enslaves your ass.

>>724731604
>still ,I don't have to worry about instant death even if walking in a bad neighbourhood.and the cops are chill because they know they won't get a surprise bullet.
That is boring as all hell. Nothing like being close to death to appreciate life.

>>724731646
thats a nice original slogan you got there

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>>724730271
is your deadliest gun on aisle 6, next to the sympathy cards?

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>>724731403

>mass shootings

congrats, you bought into media hype like an idiot. Mass shootings aren't even 1% of gun homicide deaths in America.

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>>724730271
how is glock on reliability I know nothing about guns. I want a single stack glock dont know what number because there are like 50 versions of the same gun just different calibers>>724730271

>>724730464
I like them both but even shitty ARs run better than shitty AKs. At least shit parts on an AR can be upgraded where as an AK is harder to rebuild and often isnt worth it.

I own several ARs and several AKs, each with their own purpose. Either way, make sure you buy/build a good one.

>>724730762
never had anyone make up an excuse to try and leave, but with that specifically, they typically get caught off guard and ask something along the lines of "what if it was X years ago?". Along with several other questions, I simply let them kow it would be an automatic denial until its off their record.

>>724730860
They look better than they function. If a gun manufacturer needs to recommend what ammo to shoot and not to shoot in order to run reliably, your gun really isnt all that reliable. They are hit or miss, but you can spend less money elsewhere for a better product.

>>724731002
The product I sell are non-sentient

>>724731177
There are some laws that dont make a lot of sense such as NFA laws, but that more messes up what configuration youre allowed to put your firearm in. Other than that, there is not much that gets in the way of business. The paper work can be irritating at times though.

Locally, I think its stupid on what kind of gun you are / are not allowed to have loaded and accessible in the vehicle even with a CPL.

NFA laws make no sense for the most part. Barrel too short? Cant have a stock. Barrel long enough? It can have a stock. Over .50 caliber? No go....unless its a shotgun.

Also not being able to buy pistols from a dealer under 21 is a stupid regulation. You can still get it from a private seller legally, so whats the point?

>>724730271
What state are you in OP?

what model of revolver is your best seller ?

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>>724730271

I have a couple drug related misdemeanors and a few suspended licenses due to driving recklessly. I'm irresponsible. Does the constitution still allow me to own a firearm?

Am I going to be a sad american when my background comes back and it says I've been too much of a bad boy?

Also what are your thoughts on the ghost gunner?

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>>724731753
also, do you sell loudeners?

>>724731646
make more than enough money and I have more freedom because cops are chill for an obvious reason.please, keep your guns and your false freedom.good luck not getting shot cowboy

>>724732063
>I have a couple drug related misdemeanors and a few suspended licenses due to driving recklessly. I'm irresponsible. Does the constitution still allow me to own a firearm?
>Am I going to be a sad american when my background comes back and it says I've been too much of a bad boy?
Getting items like this expunged is rather straightforward. Have a good job and no further arrests with the right attorney to petition usually does the job.

>>724731766
I'm debating between a 1911 or a S&W 629.

I am leaning 1911 because I have an colt 1873 however I like to bear hunt so a 629 would be handy. I am thinking the stainless steel spring or S&W for the 1911. I only have the one hand gun but plenty of rifles.

It will probably be my last gun for the foreseeable future since my fiancée is anti-gun.

>>724732115
>make more than enough money and I have more freedom because cops are chill for an obvious reason.please, keep your guns and your false freedom.good luck not getting shot cowboy
A safe life is a wasted life. And I really doubt if you make more than me.

>>724731764
>I want a single stack glock dont know what number because there are like 50 version

There's only one single-stack glock...the Glock 43 9mm

>>724731363
None.

>>724731500
Spotted agents, but nothing that is entrapment. I can refuse a sale if I want to and any hint of illegal activity gets you booted from the store.

>>724731753
We have an open shop floor and no aisles. Sympathy cards are left behind the counter for those who have lost their beloved pets to the ATF.

>>724731764
Very reliable but so are many other pistols out there. Glocks are very basic and dont have the greatest trigger pull but it can be upgraded. With that said, I have owned a Glock 19 and own a Glock 42. If you want a decent single stack Glock, go for the 43(9mm) or the 42 (.380).

As for other good single stack pistols I recommend...
>S&W Shield 9 or .45
>Springfield XDS (9 or .45)
>Bersa BP9CC
>Honor Guard
>Kahr MK series
many others but thats just to name a few.

Handle a few, rent a few, and go with what feels the best. For a beginner I do recommend sticking with 9mm. Also tiny guns tend to kick harder.

>>724731759
but when it happens many people die at once.and it's the most easy preventable form of death.but noo, you wanna be cowboys and thus have agressive cops and gangs and shit.

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What do you think about TAURUS weapons?

>>724730271
Who is the sketchiest person you've ever sold a gun to? Do you get that sketchy feeling about a lot of people?

>>724730271
Do you carry HK weapons? If so how many would you say you sell in a month?

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>>724731766
>NFA laws make no sense for the most part. Barrel too short? Cant have a stock. Barrel long enough? It can have a stock. Over .50 caliber? No go....unless its a shotgun.
Damn NFA laws, AR pistol w/ 10.5" barrel? SURE!
Put a stock on it? WHOA THERE! That's $200 and 5 months of waiting!!
Pic related, as I wait for my stamp

>>724732729
>>NFA laws make no sense for the most part. Barrel too short? Cant have a stock. Barrel long enough? It can have a stock. Over .50 caliber? No go....unless its a shotgun.
>Damn NFA laws, AR pistol w/ 10.5" barrel? SURE!
>Put a stock on it? WHOA THERE! That's $200 and 5 months of waiting!!
>Pic related, as I wait for my stamp
One thing that Trump wants to do is a total overhaul of the NFA laws. Was told he is waiting for a Republican super majority after the mid-term so there are just token Democrats screaming a swan song as it passes. Then there is forcing all states to accept all CCWs without any local restrictions.

>>724732546
You seem kinda ... dumb.

>>724732546
>but when it happens many people die at once.and it's the most easy preventable form of death but no, you wanna be cowboys and thus have aggressive cops and gangs and shit.
All the mass shootings are government sponsored to pass more gun control laws.

>>724732576
>What do you think about TAURUS weapons?
Not OP, but if you and I were in a shootout, I'd prefer that YOU had the Taurus. (wheelguns excluded)

>>724731931
MI

>>724732051
S&W 442 or 642 (same gun, different finish)
for those on a budget, Taurus Model 85 or Charter Arms.

>>724732063
You wont pass if any of the misdemeanors would have landed you in jail for a year or more (regardless of the time served). Anything less, you're fine but may experience a delayed background check. Misdemeanors punishable for more than 1 year in jail and domestic violence are the only misdemeanors that are federal prohibitory. Those convictions may make you ineligible for a CPL/CHW/Etc in your state though.

A denied background check can be appealed.

A fun project but over hyped. There are too many firearms out there to have them all tracked.

>>724732546
Except mass shootings have been stopped by guns but that never shows up on fake news trying to disarm the people

>>724732546
>but when it happens many people die at once
if you really cared about death, you'd be focused on what kills more overall. you're feeding into the scare culture.

>agressive cops and gangs and shit
thats only in major cities. i was in a state with almost no gun control for a while. there was also no niggers, and the cops were all friendly and happy. let me share a story.

>be me
>shooting guns in field with friend
>friends dad knows the guy that owns the land, so its ok
>cop pulls up
>im thinking im fucked
>cop gets out of care with a big smile on his face
>Hey boys! what are you shooting today? Can i take a few shots?
>we let cop try our guns
>thanks us, tells us to be careful and leaves

>>724732729
The Fuck is the point in this

>>724732302
a safe life is a wasted life??hah,pure logic.congrats ,that just shows who deluded you are.if so, move to a conflict area to live intensively.money wise I can't envy you on how much you make because make more than enough and I'm really happy with my life-also irrelevant argument on the subject

>>724732576
Crap

>>724730271
How much for a S&W 500?

Would you recommend a Ruger SR22 as an entry level ambipistol?

>>724733176
>a safe life is a wasted life??hah,pure logic.congrats ,that just shows who deluded you are.if so, move to a conflict area to live intensively.money wise I can't envy you on how much you make because make more than enough and I'm really happy with my life-also irrelevant argument on the subject
Socialism of the opiate of the masses.

>>724733130
Cops are cool in non nigger states but tend to be corrupt in high nigger states.

Guns don't kill people niggers do.

>>724731403

You probably don't have many niggers, either.

>>724733209
>How much for a S&W 500?
Have you fired those fuckers? It nearly lacerated my wrist!

>>724733088
I know this piece of shit very well. I'm from Brazil (BRBR HUE HUE) and Taurus is the "only" weapon used by police forces. I have a PT 938, works good, but its a Taurus...

>>724733421
It didn't hurt my wrist when I shot one but it definitely isn't enjoyable. It's a meme.

>>724732933
dumb or not I live a more safer and peaceful life than any of you cowboys.eat better,free Healthcare and education and no need for guns.good luck over there

>>724730271
Have you ever shot a gun-toting nigger before?

>>724733382
As Chris Rock said, there are black people and there are niggers. Ever black people hate niggers!
https://youtu.be/f3PJF0YE-x4

OP what is the best sidearm to kill bears that's legal in PA? One that NEVER jams on you and can stop a bear flat in one shot as its charging.

Those things are huge and fast.

1911 .45 ACP any good?

>>724732893
>One thing that Trump wants to do is a total overhaul of the NFA laws. Was told he is waiting for a Republican super majority after the mid-term so there are just token Democrats screaming a swan song as it passes
There's one way it can happen sooner
>Feinstein croaks
I dream of such a day

>>724733565
Yeah black people are fine, niggers are subhuman filth that should be executed immediately.

>>724733421
>>724733509
I haven't shot one, but my cousin has. He said it wasn't fun, and only shot it about twice.

What's your favorite 9mm?

How much do you charge for a bersa thunder combat plus?

what do you do when the gun gets stuck in your butt?

Would a .22 cal rifle be enough to penetrate my skull?

>>724733140
>The Fuck is the point in this
It's my lower receiver, just sitting there being useless until I get my tax stamp back from the dog shooters telling me it's alright to put a 10.5" barrel on it.

>>724733578
357 always worked fine for me. I got a 202lb bear last season with it. My browning misfired.

>>724733895
>what do you do when the gun gets stuck in your butt?
Deep concealed is best concealed

>>724733130
so you're validating my argument of the most preventable form of death by not addressing it,that's good.and don't give me the whole "guns don't kill people,people kill people".they don't but they sure make it alot fucking easier.so easy a fucking child can kill you.

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>>724730271
Is it acceptable to haggle prices in a gun shop?

>>724734087
Pawn shops usually will but gun stores are usually firm, especially big chain stores.

>>724733644
Taurus judge and SW governor is the same way.

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Which gun is good for having at home for self-defense. I like glocks, but dad insists that a revolver is more trushworthy.


What do you guys think?

Looking for a 12g around $1000. Would you suggest something used or new at that price point?

>>724733984
Are revolvers less likely to jam than magazine fed pistols? If so, I'll go with 357 thank you.

>>724730271
Have you ever regretted selling a gun?
Whether it was a personal favorite of yours or towards someone you thought was rather sketchy?

>>724734223
Do you know how a .50 Desert Eagle is?
I've never shot one of those either, but I've always thought they were cool.

>>724730271
Do you ever jack off with a gun up your ass?

>>724734075
>so you're validating my argument of the most preventable form of death by not addressing it
What does cigarettes have to do with this thread?

>>724734075
children have also killed their parents in their sleep with knives. you're not helping your case, and who cares if niggers are killing eachother? because thats what most of the gun deaths are.

europe is out of control with mudslimes shooting up concert halls and running over scores of people. if people wanna kill, they're gunna kill.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u0C2cAsIsUs

>>724732287
1911 if you plan or conceal carrying, 629 for the woods. I would recommend several other guns before a 1911 for carry though.

>>724732422
Glock 36, 42, and 43 are singles.

>>724732576
Poor QC in the past...they have gotten better but they are still just budget guns. The 709 Slims and PT-111 G2s work decently for the most part if you must have a Taurus.

>>724732597
No one. If you're sketchy, you don't get a gun. I have refused the sale of blank guns to sketchy people. I get an odd vibe from someone maybe once every 2 weeks.

>>724732696
Quite a few. The whole P30 line, USPs, VP9/40, and SP5Ks. They hardly move aside from the VP9s which I maybe sell 2 a month.

>>724733209
About $1200 - 1300

>>724733322
For range use, absolutely. I own one and enjoy it a lot. For defense, nothing .22, but look into the SR9c for that.

>>724733421
Hang on tight. Not at all a gun for a first time shooter. Nice for hunting but other than that, its a range toy at $3 a trigger pull.

>>724733543
Drawn on people, but that was before the gun shop.

>>724733578
Not familiar with PA laws. Tell me your limitations of caliber and firearm type and I can help you from there.

>>724733731
Mauser C96 "Red 9"
As for modern...
Polymer - M&P9
Metal - 92FS Brigadier

>>724733834
Never stocked one but the standard thunders are $399

>>724733895
Use Slip2000 to get it out...or back in

>>724733930
Yes
No
Maybe

>>724734087
Yes and no...some places are firm, some are willing to haggle. Others you can get a deal if you've bought a few guns. its all circumstantial. I only have allowed haggling when there are multiple expense guns on the ticket.

>>724733930
Some of the hypervelocity .22 rounds are pretty nasty these days.

>>724734323
>Do you know how a .50 Desert Eagle is?
>I've never shot one of those either, but I've always thought they were cool.
Desert Eagle do not have as much kick as they have a very sophisticated blow back mechanism. However, if you own one, keep it well cleaned and oiled better than your favorite weekend whore. They can jam a lot!

>>724734380
it takes alot of time for cigarettes to kill you.you can go to a doctor and he can advise you on what to do and there are alternatives,you can save yourself.with guns you die pretty fast.also there are people who have developed resistance to cigarettes and have no issue.my grandfather is 87 and still smokes.you re living with the hope that one day you ll develop resistance to bullets ?

>>724734323
Never tried one in .50, some guy had one in 44. Wasn't too crazy at all.

>>724734241
What action type and for what purpose?

>>724734302
Sold my first gun but luckily got it back. That was my only regret. Afterward, I never sold anything I would miss in the slightest.
As for to a sketchy person, if youre sketchy, you wont be sold anything.

>>724734323
Hard to hold, hard to control, expensive to buy, expensive to feed. Rent one if you want to shoot it, but in the end its never worth owning.

>>724734324
Only on tuesdays.

what are your thoughts on the sks and mosin nagant?

>>724734451
you can kill someone in their sleep with a pillow.but if a kid comes at you with a knife -and you are not asleep- you have a pretty high change of walking out alive and beating the shit out of that little fucktard

>>724735003
>mosin nagant

Also wondering this for a beginner rifle.

My budget is under $100

>>724735085
chance,Pardon me

>>724733607
>>Feinstein croaks
>I dream of such a day
That will a watershed event with the San Francisco Bay full of skeletons falling out of her and her jew Husband's closet. Her response to Trump's House Address puts her below pond scum. She look highly medicated as she is fighting her acid days from the 60s.

>>724735003
Both are absurdly expensive today for what they are.

An SKS is a $250-$300 rifle, and a mosin is a $100 rifle MAX

>>724734690
>I have refused the sale of blank guns to sketchy people. I get an odd vibe from someone maybe once every 2 weeks.

How does that go down? I'm curious how you reject a sale. Do you lie?

>>724735140
>My budget is under $100
they're not $100 anymore.

you might develop a flinch on them. and the surplus ammo isn't cheap anymore.

>>724734690
You guys actually have choices in your state. There are only 2 HK pistols available for sale here. P2000 and it's variants, and the usp and it's variants. I would love a vp9 but they aren't available through a store, only private.

>>724734855
>you re living with the hope that one day you ll develop resistance to bullets ?
The problem with your argument is that all guns kill people. I currently have over a dozen guns, and have owned probably 40 throughout my lifetime, not one of them have shot a person. Well, maybe my old Garand.

>>724734451
also, the deaths in Europe by terrorism not cowboys is far less than what you guys have over there.lets not compare terrorism with internal affairs.also the migrant crisis is caused because your government fuelled major conflicts in the middle east-all for oil.but that's another discussion

>>724735085
>if a kid comes at you with a knife -and you are not asleep

which is why they will either wait until you're asleep, or simply wait for you to walk by / turn your back.

>you have a pretty high change of walking out alive and beating the shit out of that little fucktard

you know nothing about knife fights outside of what you see in video games and movies, right?

>>724735140
>>724735003
they are 300-400 now a days

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>>724734690
>dat broomhandle

For looks and old-school cred, I think it's hard to beat the Mauser Luger. I've heard it can be rather unreliable, though.

>>724730271
If I came in reeking of whiskey, in dirty jeans, half-tied timberlands, a hoodie and a brown leather jacket atop, muttering under my breath "gonna fuck up that f..." "...unt ruined my f'cking life..." "bitch's gonna pay" "-ry and tell me I ain't no man..." as I stumbled up the counter, slapped 2Gs in benjy's on the counter with my license, and pointed at the 1911 in the case with a belch, and uttered "and 2 boxes .45 ACP" in bleary slurs, if I passed my check, would you sell me the gun?

I would be otherwise polite.

What kind of mark up do you average on new weapons?? $10 per $100??

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>>724731272

Nice diversion attempt there cuckboy

collecting guns as historical artefacts is permited in Europe too.but with a serios check on that person.the availability of guns is the problem.you can't know what is in someone's head.he could have a mental illness or a nervous breakdown and go buy a gun and do something stupid.thats a chance not worth taking

>>724735767
Jumping off this, what are the highest and lowest margin items?

>>724735751
>"and 2 boxes .45 ACP"
Jesus Christ Anon, you going to reload 8 times?
She fuck your brother or something?

>>724735921
>8 times
10 times

Did you get bored and leave?

>>724731403
Piss and moan all you want. Guns arent going anywhere. It doesnt matter what laws there are, criminals will always have them, there for it doesn't matter what you think.

>>724735003
Mosins are no longer worth owning. You can buy a modern and more accurate bolt guns that shoot more affordable ammo for less than a mosin.

SKS is fine as it can be owned for less than an AK and still cheap to shoot. Only buy AKs from reputable manufacturers. Until you can afford a good AK, the SKS is your friend.

>>724735261
No, I tell them straight up Im refusing the sale. I see no need to sugar coat it to someone I won;t ever sell to again. With that said, i refrain from being a dick to them while getting the message across.

>>724735140
Get a cheap .22 bolt rifle or a used break action rifle for that budget.

>>724735717
Ive never shot or owned a Luger but would love to have one in my collection.

>>724735751
Nope.

>>724735767
20% typically. New guns have a shitty profit margin. I aim for 40% on used stuff.

>>724735896
Then stay in Europe. Guns arent going anywhere. Also Euro criminals don't give a damn about what is or isn't illegal.

>>724735504
again when you are asleep you can be easily killed with many things,even a pillow.when you turn your back you could easily be killed by strangulation with a rope or have a rock thrown at your head.lets not talk about situations where you are vulnerable to a dozen of things.lets talk about the favt that you are vulnerable to a gun even if he is in front of you and he is a child.the options you have in knife fights is to run or use something to distance yourself from the aggressor.realisticaly speaking a kid won't know the proper way to handle a knife and a kick to the chest would solve the problem-he is a kid

>>724736428
OP, you mentioned that you are from Michigan. U.P. or Oven Mitt?

>>724736428
în the lack of arguments this is your response.i know guns aren't going anywhere and that my opinion won't influence the policy overseas-i m not deluded.i was just having a debate and expressing my opinion hoping that someone would convince me otherwise.

>>724736415
No, admittedly playing The Sims 2 and posting.

>>724735504
How about the world is full of dangerous shit. many other things are more likely to kill you than a firearm. Stop worrying about ways you will unlikely die and just live life. When you go, you go. Might as well have some fun with what little time we have on earth and do something enjoyable and shoot some guns with your buddies.

>>724736741
Im a Troll, not a filthy yooper

>>724736428
A FOAF had a 7.65 Luger I got to shoot about 25 years ago. (Might have been a war trophy.) It was niiice.

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>>724730271
How many of these have you sold??

>>724736609
if someone strangles you, or shoots you, does it really matter? you're dead either way.

>the options you have in knife fights is to run or use something to distance yourself from the aggressor
how often do you carry a large stick with you? and once again, whats stopping this individual from sticking something in your neck as you walk passed? you clearly know nothing of fighting.

>>724734954
O/U mainly for sporting clays. Possibly waterfowl too.

OP how many form 2's have you done?

>>724736952
Want your opinions changed? How about expose yourself to the world of shooting sports and see how fun it is, get involved with the firearms community and realize we are regular people. You will find yourself enjoying the sport and end up with a gun of your own in realization that they are not good or evil. See you on the range.

>>724737151
None. Done a few special orders for .338 Lapuas though.

>>724737196
Stoger if you want something inexpensive to own while still being of decent quality or if you want something higher end for the money, get a Beretta or SKB.

>>724737316
None, not a class 3 dealer...yet.

>>724737084
I would love the opportunity to shoot one. I would like to attend Nuggetfest in the future in hopes of getting to shoot some oddball stuff.

>>724737151
>How many of these have you sold??
But Anon, that gun kills people!!! The shoulder thing that goes u and instantly fires 30 rounds in a half second of armor piercing, heat seeking baby killer bullits!!>!>!!!1!!!

What's the going rate? $4 a trigger pull?

>>724737316
automatically assumed NFA status like a jackass. I do not deal with imports.

>>724730271
Why is 9mm best mm?
(After glorious 5.56mm that is)

OP, what are the general demographics of your customers? is it mostly old white guys? cause at my local store im seeing alot more moms and stuff, kinda strange.

>>724730271
if I buy a crossbow and merc some nigga with it, will you get in trouble? Would the outcome be the same if you sold me a glock instead?

>>724737631
>Nuggetfest
I hear they crossdress and kill goats

But that's just a day in the life of a /k/ommando

>>724737907
Yes, deploying lethal force of any kind is all the same be it a bullet or an arrow.

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>>724737709
No, I average around $2.50 with surplus AP, API, APIT

first of the point of the argument is how facilitating are guns to killing someone.it matters because in all other situations I have a better chance of getting out alive moreso if he is not attacking in a circumstance in which I am vulnerable whereas with guns I am vulnerable in all situations.second of all we are talking about a kid here ,a child.there is again a slim chance that he ll reach my neck.again you are referring to situations where I am vulnerable.third given the situation you can pick many things to distance yourself from him like chairs ,a mailbox ,a bike, a pice of wood from a fence and so on.even throwing things would prove effective.also a hefty kick would surely disable him being a child.

How much does it piss you off when people come in just to do a transfer for a gun they bought online instead of buying from you? Or do you like it since it is easy money?

>>724737890
>OP, what are the general demographics of your customers? is it mostly old white guys? cause at my local store im seeing alot more moms and stuff, kinda strange.
Not OP, but at my local range/store, I'd say the demographics are: 1/2 old white guys, 20% women, 30% younger college aged kids (mainly Asians)

>>724737631
have no problem whatsoever about shooting as a sport.i surely belive it's fun and i dont generalize thinking that all people with guns are douchebags-dont take it so personal.the availability of guns is the problem and their use outside the shooting range.

OP, how do you feel about blacks, asians, minorities buying and owning guns? if a man came in with a hijab asking for a saiga 12 or a century arms wasr, would u sell it?

>>724738131
>second of all we are talking about a kid her
Firstly, you're vulnerable walking across a street.

Secondly, only irresponsible fucks leave guns in the reach of children

>>724738085
KEK, your thumbnail looks like a crazy luchador mask

>>724737971
It's worse than that - they'll pretend to be Marine Medics, and then swap their fanfiction about how Deagle-brand-Deagles won in a fight against diamond-plated katanas.

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>>724738607
I'm not sure what you are referring to, but the small dents are from steel core 54r and the big holes are from AP .50bmg

>>724738465
you are not that vulnerable if the danger is coming from somewhere in your field of view.and for your second argument : you didn't follow the argument from the start did you? it's about how facilitating a gun is to killing and for this reason a child was given as example.

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>>724738663
This picture gets me every time...

>>724738848
anyways, great dicussion guys.anti guns european is out.have a great day

>>724737709
$3 a trigger pull if you know how to shop. Id like to shoot one but couldn't see myself owning one.

>>724737815
>inexpensive to shoot
>higher capacity than its .40 and .45 counterparts
>less recoil than .40 and .45 (assuming the same size and weight of the compared pistols)
>Less focus is being put on .40s in the current market...some new firearms on the market skip .40 while making 9mm and .45 variants.
>pistol cartridges suck over all and are a compromise for a portable firearm...you might as well get more rounds on target in a faster time span. Shot placement is everything.

>>724737890
Young to middle aged white men, but I get plenty of minority customers in women in the mix too. Regular folks just getting into guns for the most part.

>>724737907
I don't sell archery equipment. What you do with a product has nothing to do with me selling it to you, though if I sense youre going to do stupid things with it, you arent getting anything.

>>724737971
It wouldnt surprise me.

>>724738155
people go where the money is, I get that. Its easy money but the only time I get irritated about it is when a customer asks to see several guns, takes my time, and then orders it online. This is a rare occurrence for me though as several customers have mentioned "I saw X online for a bit cheaper after the fee's but I appreciate the service and want to give you the business.". Other than that, they will order stuff that are known online blow outs and specials or something my distributors dont have available for order.

>>724738403
At this point, there is nothing that can be done about the number of guns in the US. What works for one region does not always work for the other. Over all, guns are a minor issue in the US and is only blown up by the media where as the statistics show otherwise.

>>724738420
I get plenty of minority customers. it doesn't bother me.

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OP, do you sell cheap 1911s, and if so, how much would you sell a brand new RIA GI model. Also, what is your opinion on cheap 1911s?

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>>724738663
Hey! HEY! .... what's wrong with a Deagle brand Deagle??

>>724730271
Are you really in Florida?

If not, what state is your shop in?

http://spacecoastdaily.com/2014/12/florida-sees-surge-in-holiday-gun-shopping/

>>724731604
your country?

>>724739209
I dont stock RIA but budget 1911s such as the ATI and Metro Arms have always worked just fine.

>>724739242
MI

OP, when u purchase cheap lowers like anderson, aero precison, etc, how much of a profit are you really making off of each one? since its just a hunk of metal, i was figuring you buy em for cheap

>>724738848
>you didn't follow the argument from the start did you?
Yes, I've heard your arguement, and similar ones for YEARS...
A gun is a tool, nothing else.
It does not shoot itself (well except for the afore mentioned Taurus).
If a tool is misused, people can get hurt/die. The same can be said for hammers, knives, anfo, cars, power saws,.....

Maybe congress should make a law that killing people without justification should be illegal, that should lower murders!

>>724730271
ever been r00bed or bamb00zled

>>724739867
maybe $40 if that. Though people buy plenty of parts and accessories for their build which I make a fair amount on.

>>724739977
>Maybe congress should make a law that killing people without justification should be illegal, that should lower murders!
That is called Manslaughter and has been on the books for centuries.

>>724740139
Not robbed, had a guy try to buy a gun with fake money though.

>>724739049
>about transfers

thanks for the straight answer. I wanted I go to the local gun store ask about ordering an AR15 receiver, but dont know how to go about it since I dont want to piss them off. Just ask if they do transfers and I want to buy a receiver from palmetto state armory?

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>>724740152
>That is called Manslaughter
Sorry, apparently my sarcasm font pack wasnt installed properly.....

Figured you'd want a simple pie graph to ease your mind

>>724733539
>eat better, free Healthcare and education

Please to discuss your taxes.

>>724740311
Ask if they do transfers, ask what their fee is, and see what they can order you one for. Decide what route you want to go from there. Ask your dealer if they will contact the seller or if they need the seller to contact them. Each dealer does it a bit differently. I do whatever the customer prefers.

>>724730271
I have a Sig 250P in .40
I like the DAO trigger for daily carry. I carry with a round chambered with no worries.
Any resale market for that gun?

>>724740962
.40s do poor on the market overall unless the buyer is getting a good enough deal to want to buy a .40.

>>724740962
No. Who the fuck wants to buy a Sig?

OP, what do you pruchase glocks for, say, a g19, and how much do you sell em for? I've never figured out how you determine what price you would set for it, since the demand is always high

>>724741143
>who the fuck wants to buy a Sig?
Right, because they rust, because you saw that meme somewhere once. Fuck off no gunz

>>724741321
I understand that sarcasm is hard to convey sometimes on the internet

>>724741165
I sell gen 3s for $520, I get them for $460. I hardly show people glocks unless they ask for one. They sell themselves and I have no interest putting focus on them with such little profit margin. There are plenty of other guns just as reliable which is what I shift focus to.

Does the govt keep a record of the guns you buy? I'm sure they'd love to pull an Australia...

>>724741697
They say they don't, but they do. If you don't want a trail, buy privately with cash

>>724741697
All guns leaving the shop get recorded on a 4473 and all sales are put in a log book.

If your dealer uses electronic records, you're on a list somewhere. If book records, likely not. Gun control like in AUS simply wont work in the US. So many guns are not on record due to private sales.

I carried a Smith and Wesson 629 .357 as a LEO in the late 80's. Any opinions on that gun?

>>724741697
>Does the govt keep a record of the guns you buy?
Legally they're not allowed to
>I'm sure they'd love to pull an Australia...
Let me tell you about this mysterious boating accident I had...

>>724741697
won't matter there's too many already in circulation, hundreds of millions

OP how long have u been a dealer for, and if you were one durring sandy hook, did you price gouge people, like sell $2000 bushmasters or colt 6920?

>>724741840
The DEA is the most nurtured / captured agency in the government. The do nothing with the records for the brief time they hold them.

>>724742006
You don't even know the correct caliber of your gun retarded pig

Should gun sellers, even those at gun shows, perform a background check?

>>724730271
What store do you work at?

You ever sell a gun to someone who killed themselves?

>>724742238
If they are licensed FFLs selling for a profit, they have to perform background checks regardless of location. If they are just private sellers they don't.

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Can I come work in your store OP? Former Marine Armorer

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>>724742214
>Smith and Wesson 629 .357
629 was chambered in multiple calibers. Most popular law enforcement round was the .357 mag
Stick to airsoft shit heel

>>724742386
The question is should not if

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>>724742079
>won't matter there's too many already in circulation, hundreds of millions
And to piss on Mr. Mass Shootings argument, you want to know how many people died in 2015

>>724742483
>Former Marine anything
Once a Marine, always a Marine, son.

>>724742483
>Former Marine Armorer
You should really stop touting your military bullshit. It doesn't give you extra authority outside of it.

>>724731403
>no gun related deaths
(doesn't mention the other kinds of deaths, how convenient)

>>724742622
>It doesn't give you extra authority outside of it.
it gave him skills and knowledge.

>>724742556
As long as they're cheap fast and easy, I don't mind background checks at retail sales.

(not OP)

>>724742599
That's why you say former and not Ex
>>724742622
Someone got a Entry level denial

>>724742006
Smith makes a great revolver.

>>724742026
The government doesnt care whats legal or not unfortunately.

>>724742146
I was a dealer after sandy hook. As a customer, all price gouging shops lost my respect and business and refuse to do that to my customers.

>>724742238
Dealers must conduct a background check. Private sellers dont need to. A criminal buying a gun off the streets isnt going to get a background check so it doesnt do too much in the end if someone wants a gun bad enough.

>>724742483
Military background =/= being knowledgeable in guns and customer service. All of my previous military employees were let go due to lack of gun knowledge and customer service.

>>724742806
I wouldn't say im the most knowledgeable guy. But my first job was at Publix so I got a pretty hard crash course in customer service.

>>724742741
And the inability to shut the fuck up to everyone around him who doesn't give a shit except the people who want brownie points sayIng "THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE"

r u a v00rgin or g0y

>>724742961
What DQ'd you? Autism?

What sales going on right now?

>>724735468
Don't call him a cowboy 'til you've seen him ride.

OP, whats the most common rifle or handgun you have sold? is it hard to stay afloat with sales alone? do u have a guy in the back that does some easy gun smithing stuff?

>>724730271
Have you ever sold a gun to someone who killed themselves?

>>724743565
not to my knowledge.

>>724730271
AK shotguns... Vepr or Saiga?

Ayyy cuh, where you keep all the automatics¿

>>724744161
VEPR

>>724742596
171 other guns? is that like kids killing people with a red ryder?

>>724744492
look up pictures of zip guns.

>>724730271
This Gun Shop is in Oregon.