Historian fag here. Everything you just posted is almost entirely wrong except for Germany getting fucked over in the treaty of Versailles. They got fucked over so badly that with or without the Nazis, WWII was practically inevitable.
>>721663496 History major here, some of the things you're saying simply aren't true, I'm sorry friend.
>Germany was screwed over at the end of WWI (which Germany had won) by the treaty of Versailles (google "the stab in the back") True, the Germans were horribly mistreated, there were even prominent Allied people who begged for Germany to be treated with dignity, which they never got, France especially wanted to use the German losses as a way to 'fix', but mostly mask their own social and economic problems that they were facing such as dwindling birth rates, an outdated 'left behind' economy, deep social division between the right and left, Christians and Atheists, Nationalists and Socialists/Anarchists etc. >Hitler created over 6 million jobs in 2 years and made the greatest economic recovery in history Not true, he created a lot of jobs though but mostly used policies that were already established under Bismarck, but had helped create the united, happy, and dedicated German people before. >Jews made up 2% of the German population yet comprised over 50% of media, 70% of judges, and nearly 100% of the banking system True, "Kaiserjuden", or Willhelm's Jewish friends, as the German people had called them hung around Willhelm II as his best friends, obviously having a lot of influence on the way things were being done. Many Germans didn't like that because Germany didn't like people flaunting their industrial riches, people were very witheld. >Hitler was compassionate towards Jews by agreeing to let them immigrate to Palestine with all of their assets from 1933- start of WWII True, the Jews were boycotting German products because they felt threatened by Nazi Germany, so Hitler and the German Jews signed the Haavara agreement.
>>721662577 Because they are mostly made up/distorted. Dunno what your aryan brotherhood gayboy bumfuck buddies told you, but they are retarded and their "alternative facts" hold as much actual substance as their haircuts.
>why didn't school history lessons teach us about OP's failing anal structure?
you a onenut too? ever had a job? ever hang with religious jews? ever been to a bat mitzvah? had exposure to mustard gas? it makes you nuts,,how long you been nuts? the jews did it to themselves right? sue your teachers for drilling your empty skull like the tallman brainless bonghead
>>721662577 >Germany was screwed over at the end of WWI (which Germany had won) by the treaty of Versailles Stab in the back myth is called myth for a reason. The german army was in a very Bad state after the failed spring offensive. That's why the OHL proposed a cease fire >War of 1918, communist Jews from Russia use Germany's weak state and try to overthrow the government, sparking a civil war These were mostly germans and the right wring free corps sparked way more chaos. Spartacist uprising was quickly put down >Hitler created over 6 million jobs in 2 years and made the greatest economic recovery in history Based on making debts which forced him to invader other countries later. The economy already recovered in 1932, hence the loss of voters for the NSDAP at the end of 32 >Jews made up 2% of the German population yet comprised over 50% of media, 70% of judges, and nearly 100% of the banking system Citation needed. Judges were right wring during Weimar btw. >Hitler was compassionate towards Jews by agreeing to let them immigrate to Palestine with all of their assets from 1933- start of WWII Sure thats what he did on the eastern front where most of the jews were killed right >Poland started WWII by inflicting atrocities on ethnic Germans inside Poland The war was started on a lie and the atrocities were minor compared to what the germans did later to the polish >Russia and Germany invaded Poland together but the allies only waged war against Germany Lel maybe because it would have been completely retarded to start a war over a state whose army was already defeated? >Hitler offered a 16 point peace plan and Britain refused to report it to the public because the British people would find it fair, and Poland refused to look at it Citation needed
>268,000 Jews were killed inside of concentration camps (most of them died from typhoid and allied bombs- per International Red Cross) Now this is historically proven wrong Amerifat spotted
>>721662577 >Why Don't They Teach You These History Facts In School
well mostly because the jews won and the real good guys lsot, now they are the bad guys because winners write history.
>notice how "researchers" are coming up with all kinds of stuff that hitler supposedly did, like that hitler was a coprophile and he had only one testicle. >hitlers body was never really found, but somehow "reseachers managed to find out that he had only one testicle
>>721666643 It is okay to be stupid if that's what you want. Moreover, you really think that you know history better? Only 1 side? Not even daring to acknowledge there could and maybe there is another side of history? You are a fucking moron sir, German or not.
Not to mention history is just some bullshit in general. Someone writes something, someone else who doesn't like that version of it might or will change it and so forth.
>>721667581 >think that you know history better? Only 1 side? Not even daring to acknowledge there could and maybe there is another side of history? There are definetly things to discuss about but what OP said is disproven by academia > Not to mention history is just some bullshit in general. Someone writes something, someone else who doesn't like that version of it might or will change it and so forth. Wah nothing is real everything is subjective ww2 never happened, fuck logic
>>721662577 Its sad how the public today blindly accepts anything handed dow n from on high as historical fact nowadays without the slightest criticism. western cultural programming and media propaghanda are in full effect. North Korea should take notes. The public is told what to think and unquestionably believes it. The whole reason that the united states was brought into the war in the first place is because the media barons struck a deal with british government (Walter Rothschild to Arthur James Balfour ) promising them that the media would sway public opinion in the US against Hitler enough to bring America into the war and win it for Britain in exchange for the land of palestine to create a state of their own.. without actually owning the land to give away and without consulting the palestinians first . The US was brought into the war based on media lies and those same media lies continue today. Wake up people. Its a fact. And israel is not a "jewish" state. Its a gangster state for rich robber barons to live without fear of extradition. Every major russian mafia don is also an israeli citizen. Look it up. And NEVER FORGET HOLOMODOR and the real genocide of europe perpetrated by the same jews. But tou womt hear that on the news either. Start watching documentaries from both sides of each war and make educated decisions yourself. We are brainwashed in the west in the exact same way as they are in north korea. But alas the majority is too sheepish to see it. ... rant complete.. fuck Israel
>>721668432 Alright Mr. History, you found a flaw in my sentence, go on roast me or something. What I meant by history being bullshit is that people can add/edit or remove parts they do not see fit. I never said that you should decline WW2. Fuck logic, am I right? Let's decline obvious facts that WW2 happened. #AnonIsGeniousToday
>>721668528 Oh look, "I am studying history" ... go on give me all the material if you want. I am fluent in German if that's what you're asking, I'm not going to brag about how many languages I know cause that would be useless and irrelevant in this case.
But I don't expect your material to be any better than whatever is out there (in the world/educational system/internet etc.).
>>721665528 >Lel maybe because it would have been completely retarded to start a war over a state whose army was already defeated?
Lel maybe nothing. Germany and USSR were allies and signed an agreement to jointly occupy Poland. That is fact. This only feel apart later because Hitler wanted to use the baltics and Russia as well to create a pastoral German utopia (after clearing out the locals).
>>721662577 You are absolutely right. On every point. Let the morons argue it so they can feel right. Smart people know what a load of shit the holocaust was. Its the average to low IQs that are too proud to actually think for themselves. Id they did its plainly obvious how overblown it was.
>>721668882 Gebhardt Handbuch der deutschen Geschichte: das dritte reich 1933-1939 Same series: der zweite Weltkrieg 1939-1945 Michael Kißener, Das dritte Reich Hans Ulrich Wehler, der Nationalsozialismus For academic literature look up Vierteljahrshefte für Zeitgeschichte and Historische Zeitschrift im too lazy to look up for articles or more books but this should be a good starting point
>>721668528 And you are on 4Chan defending your history books? Aaron Schwartz the creator of 4chan proved that our history books and learning materials are all biased propaghanda. Watch the documentary. Stop believing everything your told. History is written by the winners. Its always biased.
The point, anon, was that the west aka """"the good guys"""" were allied with a dictator who had just as many atrocities to his name as the ever so ebil Hitler. But no we don't talk about Stalin's shit, or the Red Army rape of Germany following WWII. No, that would cloud up the nice neat black/white narrative.
>>721669457 At the start of WWI the Germans had a policy of terrorizing their neighbors through violent warfare. Correspondingly, they razed the Low Countries and unleashed unrestricted submarine warfare. They did this to pay Britain back for the years of commercial blockading the British had waged against Germany, and as a method of subduing their neighbors. So when Germany was finally convinced they could not win the war they sued for an armistice. Their enemies saw this as a chance to both punish Germany and to ensure it could never again be a great military power. Thus were the seeds of WWII sown.
Really Sad how little people know about WW2 but everyone pretends to be an expert. People dont want the truth. People want to be reassured what they believe is the truth. Defending Israel is a huge mistake and if your to thick skulled to see it than your not worth the wasted energy trying to explain it. Juat continue following each other like lemmings off a cliff. This Goy will be over here not falling for the bullshit
>>721670678 Holomodor. My entire family was rapes and murdered by bolshevik jews. Only 2 escaped to CANADA. Ask any ukranian canadians why their families came here and you will always get the same answer. To escape the jews who were murdering us. Ask someone from the west and they will tell you whatever the tv tauhht them is the truth. Wake up
>>721670438 I will never get /pol/'s obsession with the spartacist rising. It's only important for the relationship between the MSPD and the USPD, later transforming into the KPD.The revolution already happened Here is some right wring shit https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kapp_Putsch
>>721662577 >Germany was screwed over at the end of WWI (which Germany had won) by the treaty of Versailles The treaty of Versaille certainly had a place in sparking German sentiment.
>War of 1918, communist Jews from Russia use Germany's weak state and try to overthrow the government, sparking a civil war Check your history here.
>Hitler created over 6 million jobs in 2 years and made the greatest economic recovery in history True.
>Jews made up 2% of the German population yet comprised over 50% of media, 70% of judges, and nearly 100% of the banking system An industrial people.
>Hitler was compassionate towards Jews by agreeing to let them immigrate to Palestine with all of their assets from 1933- start of WWII Nah. Hitler spearheaded the dictate to destroy Jewish business and personal assets. This after passing a law which prevented the Jews from participating in the German economy. Moreover, after an insurance Fiasco, the German dictator confiscated the insurance payments that were to be made to Jewish business and families and subsidized insurance industry with said assets. Also, like the Czechs were treated, assets of all repressed were confiscated and used to fund military campaign. War machine depended heavily on said assets.
>Poland started WWII...... Nah. Germany had it's sights on Poland from before even Hitler came to power, mainly due to the issue of Danzig but furthered along because of Hitlers need for "lebensraum".
>Russia and Germany invaded Poland together but the allies only waged war against Germany Nah. Germany did the heavy lifting here and Russia came in for the spoils, much like Hungary did in the case of the Czechs.
>Hitler offered a 16 point peace plan.... Nah. Hitler was in the war for life and death. His words, treatise, and every utterance he spoke were empty as they had been all along.
>268,000 Jews were killed inside of concentration camps (most of them died from typhoid and allied bombs- Check your figures.
Ww2 was the first real excersize in mental warfare by the media. It was a war won by propaghanda and demonizing the enemies of the elite. Thats all. Media manipulated public opinion against hitler to bring us into war. Do you really think all the germqns were brainwashed to follow hitler? No he was actually a good leader that wanted to help his people. Thats why they followed him. Think about it. Oh yeah you cant unless the tv tells you you can. Sorry i forgot im speaking to a bunch a sheep
>>721662577 >>Jews made up 2% of the German population yet comprised over 50% of media, 70% of judges, and nearly 100% of the banking system >Hitler attempted genocide against a race that ubiquitously operated a critical part of his nation's economy
This video connects all the missing dots about Hitler, this may be the most important video you ever watch, a must see for true /b/ users. https://youtu.be/7XExjrZxTdk (ALT) http://m.liveleak.com/view?i=eaf_1382262528
>>721674263 Yet they seize the industrial area generating income to pay the debts? French wanted the money and land for themselves with no intention on letting them pay. The French people got what they deserved in the second go about, it's a shame they didn't gas them all as well.
Just in case anyone is wondering, stormfags, who started flooding /pol/ like 3 years ago, are starting to lose more and more ground there and are self confined into "nazi generals" because more and more people are getting tired of their memes.
They recently tried to """"invade"""" /his/, while /his/ was at the same time being invaded by leftypol and failed miserably
and now I guess they are trying to shill their shit on good old /b/
>>721662577 >Hitler was compassionate towards Jews by agreeing to let them immigrate to Palestine with all of their assets from 1933- start of WWII That's a dick move tho, imagine if some random world leader would agree to let folks from his country invade your home just like that.
>>721665935 As a matter of fact, what he stated is there to read in every serious page in the web, in most books and validated by various sources. What OP wrote is nearly complete myth or if not claimed by nazis and mf Hitler but in thruth initiated way back in the Republic of Weimar.
But who am I to argue with you, you´ve facts at hand and you could so mf easy proof it that he should do the work alone. In other words you´re saying "I´ve my own facts and if you want to validate them do it on your own". But bad news you little Hitlerfaggot: he already did exactly this, he ask the one source to provide information in this: YOU and YOU should either give them or admit that you´re talking shit. And now get out of sign or take a shower in the so save showers of Auschwitz. Du Vollpfosten!
>>721662577 Holy fucking shit OP, you are fucking dumb.
Most of the shit you posted is really common knowledge, while some of it is biased and/or plain wrong.
>Germany was screwed over at the end of WWI (which Germany had won) by the treaty of Versailles
True, but this is elementary school level history
>War of 1918, communist Jews from Russia use Germany's weak state and try to overthrow the government, sparking a civil war
No. Communists germans with some little help from russian commies try to over the government as it was usual at the time. Some of them were jewish, some were not.
>Hitler created over 6 million jobs in 2 years and made the greatest economic recovery in history
While Hitler did create a lot of jobs and sparked an economic recovery your numbers as well the claim that it was the greatest economic recovery in history are plain wrong
>Jews made up 2% of the German population yet comprised over 50% of media, 70% of judges, and nearly 100% of the banking system
So? That's how capitalism works, some stay on the top of the pyramid, the rest stays on the bottom
>Hitler was compassionate towards Jews by agreeing to let them immigrate to Palestine with all of their assets from 1933- start of WWII
Oh, sure, that's a lot of compassion. After I confiscated most of your stuff you can leave your country where all the people you know and love live to live an uncertain life in Palestine, a fucking shithole colony of England.
>Poland started WWII by inflicting atrocities on ethnic Germans inside Poland
>Russia and Germany invaded Poland together but the allies only waged war against Germany
The allies were hoping that Nazi Germany would deal with the USSR (not Russia), so they let things play out. When Molotov-Ribbetrop pact was made the UK and France had no option other than enter the war against Germany, since it was clear it wouldn't deal with the commies. (Continues)
>>721677242 Also, they were already afraid of a non-aggression pact between Germany and the USSR. They would be fucking dumb to declare war on the commies and turn that non-aggression pact into a full blown alliance.
>Hitler offered a 16 point peace plan and Britain refused to report it to the public because the British people would find it fair, and Poland refused to look at it
At that time Hittler's word was as good as shit to the allied forces. He had already broke the Versailles agreement, they had no motive to think he would honor another peace agreement by them.
>268,000 Jews were killed inside of concentration camps (most of them died from typhoid and allied bombs- per International Red Cross)
>>721662577 >>Germany was screwed over at the end of WWI (which Germany had won) by the treaty of Versailles
No. Germany lost the war and was subjected to harsh, but not unreasonable terms.
>>War of 1918, communist Jews from Russia use Germany's weak state and try to overthrow the government, sparking a civil war
COMPLETE horseshit. The German Revolution started DURING the war torwards the end by GERMAN sailors. This revolution led to the bloodless abdication from the throne of the kaiser to establish a new social democrat government under Ebert. Then, the communist (non of which were Russian) tried to overthrow this socalist government and failed. Hitler and the nazis also tried to do the same thing in the beer hall putsch.
>>Hitler created over 6 million jobs in 2 years and made the greatest economic recovery in history
>Jews made up 2% of the German population yet comprised over 50% of media, 70% of judges, and nearly 100% of the banking system
>>Hitler was compassionate towards Jews by agreeing to let them immigrate to Palestine with all of their assets from 1933- start of WWII
kicking people out of your country on some shitty extradtion program that is never properly implemented, falls through, and then is scrapped officially in 1942 in favor of the holocaust isnt compassionate at all
>>Poland started WWII by inflicting atrocities on ethnic Germans inside Poland
No they didnt. Even "black sunday" which stormfags love to bring up and over exaggerate, was the Polish army killing german partisan fighters AFTER they were attacked by them. Furthermore, this incident happened 3 days AFTER the German invasion
>>Russia and Germany invaded Poland together but the allies only waged war against Germany
there you go dipshit, you just admitted Germany invaded Poland, not the other way around. And Britain was trying to funnel weapons to Finland to fight them
>>721662577 Actually in Britain we are taught some of these facts and we also have history books that weren't written by Hollywood. The rest of these facts are neo-nazi myths that they use repeatedly to make people believe that Hitler was misunderstood. In fact his greatest crime was to completely destroy the Oliver Hardy/Charlie Chaplin moustache, bastard. Facts that are facts are numbers; 1 3 7 8
Facts that are "alternative" facts are; 2 4 5 6 9
In conclusion, OP was using B+ grade bait, but must try harder before the summer holidays.
>>721675574 WAIT! That image. I like to check things. So I went to the Daily Express' own archive here: And searched for March 24th 1933. And whilst I'm not about to pay for their download funtionality (poorbro) I can see quite clearly from the screen shot that the headline did in fact say what the original picture asserted. Therefore, the text below is false.
>Holocaust deniers misrepresent and omit information contained in ICRC reports that contradict their claims.
this is literally the FIRST sentence from your own source. The Red Cross, the people you are attributing these stats to, have written about how they NEVER made those claims in the first place. How fucking stupid are you anon?
>Critics argue that Richard Harwood in his "Did Six Million Really Die?" pamphlet could only claim that the ICRC had found no evidence of a policy to exterminate Jews by ignoring key sections of the 1948 report, where the ICRC explicitly states that the systematic extermination of Jews was Nazi policy.
>In the 1978 official bulletin, entitled "False Propaganda", the ICRC denounced Holocaust denial and confirmed that the agency "Never published—or even compiled—statistics of this kind which are being falsely attributed to it" and stated that its mission was "to help war victims, not to count them", and questioned how they would have even been able to obtain such statistics had they wanted to, given that they were "only able to enter only a few concentration camps...in the final days of the war".
Thanks for proving yourself wrong and just confirming what I already wrote hahaha
>>721677840 That is a hoot. It was the same propaganda that is used today as red flags to incite people to support wars, and keep them busy about non-events. Hitler claimed that the Poles had attacked border towns, and were persecuting Germans who lived in Poland. Untrue. It was to justify going in, much like Bush's WMD garbage to go to Iraq. Also the same lie used to invade the Czech Republic.
>>721678477 The text asserts that there was no such thing as a 'unified' Judea, but it is in fact an identifying ethnic group. And has been for millenia. Like when people these days say Caucasians instead of Whites.
But wait, what's this? Oh look: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Nazi_boycott_of_1933 Mass demonstrations, and an international boycott? Seems like the text was wrong again kiddo. To be clear, I don't support what happened - but don't twist facts.
>The ICRC considers this misrepresentation as "propaganda", and because these claims regarding the ICRC were used for the defense of Ernst Zündel at his trial in 1985, critics state that despite the agency's attempts to demonstrate the truth, Holocaust deniers have continued to rely on ICRC based disinformation. Archives of the International Tracing Service (located in Bad Arolsen) responding to such misrepresentation can be found here. In 1979, the ICRC stated a second time that they have "never tried to compile statistics on the victims of the war", nor "certified the accuracy of the statistics produced by a third party", and state that the authors of such material have "falsified" both claims that the document originates from the ICRC and refers exclusively to Jews.
Did you even read this? Or did you realize you were wrong and just quickly googled the first thing you could without reading it at all?
>As well as in personal correspondence, the ICRC has also addressed this misrepresentation by several other means. In 1975, the ICRC wrote to the Board of Deputies of British Jews in London regarding Harwood's citations, stating:
>The figures cited by the author of the booklet are based upon statistics falsely attributed to us, evidently for the purpose of giving them credibility, despite the fact that we never publish information of this kind.
>— Françoise Perret, Comité International de la Croix-Rouge, to Jacob Gerwitz, August 22, 1975.
>>721678455 Yes Israel has one of the best cyber warfare units in the world. And?
It is not as if every country in the world does not have one. Well maybe not African countries, only Nigeria as the scam warfare unit. Also the US is the one who put the Zero Day into the wild. Thank you Obama.
2. I quote, "There was no such thing as Judea". Yet there is. You're welcome to consult any text from the History of Rome to the Bible regarding the province of Judea, its peoples, how it was managed and ethnically structured.
3. The text states the British located board did not support a botcott. Yet the boycott as linked before, was international and supported from US to Europe. So a single country's ethnic board not supporting the boycott does not an argument make.
Stop posting stupid arguments and hoping to convince people who won't check the infromation for themselves. Insteead, make a valid point, and it cannot be refusted.
>>721671518 >Nah. Hitler was in the war for life and death. His words, treatise, and every utterance he spoke were empty as they had been all along.
Those who study the history of what Hitler and the Nazis really wanted (you could skip the wars, the historic details everything and just focus on the meta). When Hitler would have won in Russia, he would have killed half of the "lesser" Slavik people, and then he would have gone up to Asia and continued there. We would have had a death toll in the billions.
>>721681184 >2. I quote, "There was no such thing as Judea". >Yet there is. You're welcome to consult any text from the History of Rome to the Bible regarding the province of Judea, its peoples, how it was managed and ethnically structured. >3. The text states the British located board did not support a botcott. Yet the boycott as linked before, was international and supported from US to Europe. So a single country's ethnic board not supporting the boycott does not an argument make.
Do you not see how stupid you are? You say Judea is one whole thing, then in the VERY NEXT sentence you admit that a bunch of british jews decided not to support a boycott. So by your own admission, jews arent a monolithic group since some of them supported the boycott and others didnt.
You also think saying "ad hom" means you automatically win, being completely ignorant of the fallacy fallacy
You are wrong and its hilarious how you guys stubbornly latch onto shit after its been called out.
>>721683163 >be Hjamlar Schacht, one of the leading economist in Germany >be head of the Reichsbank during the Weimar Republic when the great depression hits the world >Hitler eventually comes to power >keeps you on as head of the bank and lets you do your thing >through Schacht economic wizardry, he recovers the economy of Germany >Hitler: "Great! now we can use all this money to fuel the military!" >Schacht: "Mein Fuhrer, this plan is bad and will ruin the economy. Please listen, Im arguably the smartest economist in Europe curently, this plan is bad becaus..." >Hitler: "REEEE YOURE FIRED!" >Hitler appoints Goering in charge of the economy to oversee his 4 year plan >80+ years later, stupid 22 year old autistic edgelords attribute your accomplishment to the stupid asshole who ruined it all
>>721662577 >when youre coming forward with an armistice thaat means youve lost >i dont know shit about 1918 >hitler creaed 6 millions jobs because he was taking is country to war... you know where people get killed and shit >not the jews fault theyre smarter than you >hitler being compassionate... thats just plain ol bait >hitler lied and made fake broadcasts of poland attacking germans to justify declaring war. where are you getting this shit? >by the time the allies invaded europe russia ha d been invaded didnt know about the peace plan but im sure the 16 points were unreasonable >the fuck?
>>721662577 nazi germany required the jews who wanted to immigrate give up all their shit. like they couldnt sell their homes and take their savings to a new country yeah that sure sounds compassionate
>>721687444 >you now realise "alternative facts" is a phrase invented by the trump media team to use when they tell blatant and obvious lies, and the reason it's gained so much traction is because they keep repeating it, causing satirists to ejacujate nonstop for the last week
>>721687801 >people still believe every single Jew was targeted No, dipshit, the people Hitler was targeting were abusers of Kabbalah, they used Jewish principles in order to be wicked fucks. They are the reasons why Judaism is viewed so negatively, purposely taking holy principles and corrupting them.
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