>>721546452 Exactly >>721546320 I used to think i was smart too, thought i was depressed because of it. Then i met an actual genius. My best friend now, he thinks at another level. Absolute whiz, had a "business" at 13 selling shit online. Was abused and has suffered more heartbreak than i have seen in anyone, and he just can't feel depressed. Doesn't matter how life gets him down, no matter what he has never turned to self loathing and pity. Remarkable mind and i doubt he'd be able to perform so well at life without it. Moral of the story is, you're not some special cookie that can see life in a unique, truthful way. Most people can see it like that. that's life. Most people are also not depressed fucks that loathe in themselves.
>>721546934 might be onto something there. Being clever allows you to solve many problems superficially without much effort, so you never feel the need of actually dreaming or projecting yourself in the future.
Kids who do well in school are praised and considered special. These rewards encourage them to keep on developing their intellect, so that they eventually overspecialise. They neglect everything else life has to offer, including things that could actually make them happy and fulfilled (e.g. sensory stimulation, emotional development, social and sexual contact.)
tl;dr - there's more to life that academic achievement. Read Jung.
>>721547787 Suggest you google the word 'specialism' and then look on pubmed for the actual science relating IQ to various mental disorders. The most at risk group are those with low IQs. I'm sure you're good at internal medicine though.
>>721546320 Smarter you are. The less friends you have. It's because smart people want friends who better them, or can teach them shit.
It takes me a long time to put up with idiots. I'm smart in the fashion where I have boat loads of common sense and understand physical objects very easily. Growing up my parents would have me fix the VCR when I was like 10. But fuckkk ask me to sit down and read a book or do boring ass math. Fuck that!
Thus the internet became my home... Smart people can collect and share ideas without all the extra shit.
>>721546320 Everyone suffers from mental health issues, people took a small observation of geniuses being so smart they they tend to walk the thin line of insanity so what happens is retard tumblr users see that sort of observation and interpret depression as being inherently a genius trait well guess what, you are dumb.
>>721546320 I am in no way the smartest guy but in a place I live in having 125 IQ is well above average and I can't find many people too connect with so I spend most of my time alone doing stuff I wish some girl would watch me do or enjoy as much as I do. Its not even that I'm ugly I'm about 85% good looking its just that I can't find a girl that is worth of my time or even worst preety enough for me I feel like a totally different breed. Like a swan in some poor guys backyard filled with chicken's and ducks
>>721549475 There was no intelligence qualifier. He just said that smart people only want friends that they can get something out of. Truth is, people usually just have friends for social company, being intelligent doesn't erase that.
>>721546320 most super interligent people are not depresed, they are too busy inventing and doing stuff to have time to be depressed. The only time they may feel a bit depressed is when they aren't doing anything at the moment.
>>721547989 Because guys like this are intelligent in the IQ sense, in the book-smart sense, but their emotional intelligence is low.
I think a lot of high IQ, high intelligence people think highly of themselves and they see themselves as the "other". They "can't" make friends because you're not "on their level".
In reality, a lot of these people are the ones who are causing the problem. They have very little emotional intelligence which is what helps to create social interaction and form friendships and relationships.
So basically they're super smart but too stupid to understand other people. Which makes them pretentious over time.
>>721550058 Yeah. Where I live there are no career paths. It was either work in hospitality, or a hospital. The only way I could escape was by going to a private CDL school and becoming a truck driver.. It seems like a waste of smarts. But it pays good, and when I'm off I get to invent and tinker with things on my own time, with plenty of cash on hand to do so. And being a truck driver requires very little socializing with dumb people. Most folks just want to do their jobs and go home. Thats fine with me!
And plus. You can use the job as a reason towards your family why you aren't with anyone. Lol
OP, if you ask stupid questions, you'll tend to get stupid answers (as exemplified ITT).
There is no proven correlation between intelligence and depression. There is plenty of speculation and studies on the subject, but it seems the results of the studies are mostly inconclusive. A Google search will tell you as much.
Now, there does seem to be an increased prevalence of mental illness among creative people; however, this seems to apply more to the humanities than the sciences.
Got mt iq tested when I was 6, scored more then 150. Dropped out of school twice, worked night shift l for a year and started attending school once again. I have lots of friends who think of me as the funny guy because thats the way I want them to think of me. Had lots of meaningless relationship never being myself. I can't eat, sleep or talk to people for days sometimes. Don't know how long I keep going like that before I just run away from anything
>>721546320 its not that youre smart or a genius youre just more self aware which enables you to achieve more while still feeling average and depressed People like this comprehend consequences and their own averageness fully understanding the fact youre an average person who will be forgotten no matter what makes everything more depressing despite what you can accomplish with critical thinking due to heightened comprehension
>>721551093 Again, you are projecting hard. You are projecting your own emotions and sentiments onto me because for whatever reason, your ego won't let you accept that you are a selfish piece of shit without real friends.
>>721551100 >asks for stop sign >it's a picture of a lake in a forest
>>721551236 Meh. If you can sit and play vidya games for HOURS you would do well being a truck driver. The first year is hard because you're still learning your time sheets and trying to not get lost. But after that it becomes natural. It also depends on the kind of driving job. I like long hauls right now. 3 days on the road, 12 hour days, then 3 days home time.
>>721550115 Really though, that's all life is; everyone does it. People have friends because they get things from that friendship. Happiness, company, etc. Everyone picks friends based on that. If you're friends with people solely to manipulate for gain with only you benefiting then I would say that's a social disorder.
>>721546320 First, that's not entirely true. The brain is a muscle, and just like a muscle grows the more you use it. There are perfectly healthy geniuses out there.
That being said, I assume you are discussing the link between bipolar (bpd) and their tendency to make it into various schools of thought and research. There are lots of answers as to the why, but the most compelling I've found so far has to do with a neurotransmitter called norepinephrine. This neurotransmitter is found in higher doses with individuals suffering from anxiety, depression, schizophrenia, and bipolar. It regulates the focused, alert feeling associated with the "fight or flight " response, and as such forces an individual to focus and think hard. Those suffering from the before mentioned diseases almost always have a constant flow of this going through their system, forcing them to think and develop their brain. Just like anything, take this with a grain of salt, because this is just a hypothesis. Also, do some of your own research, you fuck.
>>721551480 I won't be. Unless self driving trucks become cheaper then it is to pay someone to drive.. Also theres safety and weather issues. A car can get away with being somewhat self driving. But being aware of weather, terrian and natural road hazards. Teh self driving stuff is far away...
What the eye (in this case mind) doesn't see, the heart doesn't grieve.
P.S. World is going downhill pretty fast. Mainly due to fact that there are too many people to feed and too many that want piece of the "same/economy" money. This leads to refugee crisis and this leads to discrimination and other shit when natives and immigrants clash and all other shit...
>>721546320 Diagnosed genius intelligence reporting in, more or less just to say that ya'll people are mostly wrong, probably because of low int. No, I'm serious. It isn't simply that ignorance is bliss, because ignorance is also fucking painful at times, only to the ignorant person their "misfortunes" seem to come flying outta nowhere. They obviously suffer the consequences, aware or not. Look at obese people (they are usually fucking stupid[also because health and intelligence go hand-in-hand]), they just blame their thyroid or some stupid shit like that. The true reasons intelligence is associated with depression is because we don't fit in. People all around are far too small-minded and preoccupied with petty bullshit that geniuses look at like children playing in a sandbox. And if you don't fit in, that is a big challenge as a human being. We depend on eachother entirely, and when one cannot be understood or related with, life gets needlessly difficult even though you are the most competent individual to deal with the problems. A sufficiently intelligent individual certainly also recognises the meaninglessness of life, but it is dealt with differently from case to case.
You cant use regular GPS. and some companys want you to use their paper route maps. A truck GPS with truck routes is very expensive. They do make them. But you cannot use google maps to guide you to somewhere otherwise you might come to an over pass you cannot fit under.
Also if you drive locally you get a pretty decent work hours. Like 8 or 9. But it may require you to unload your truck yourself too.. And I hate that shit.
>>721552365 I think once quantum computing becomes commonplace, the computing power and problem solving capabilities may put some scientists out of a job. But I don't think actual robots will start replacing labor jobs for another 50 years or so.
>>721553121 what obstacles do you think the AI jews will encounter with insurance companies? as far as their robots causing deaths, destruction of property, etc. surely they won't accept robots without some sort of trial period of ??? years, right? some sort of process along the lines that new drugs are put through.
>>721553273 But anon. Its 12 hours to drive.. That leaves you 12 hours to eat and sleep. Considering i sleep for 10. Leaves me two hours to eat. And I often make meals before I leave so I can have something healthy while on the road. You get two hours to do what ever. I normally spend it using the bathroom more often. And then you get 3 days off... So youre only working 48 hours max a week most of the time. Also if you stay with the job in 3 to 5 years. You can get paid 45 to 55k a year.
You are depressed because you haven't chosen a lifestyle and instead resign yourself to staying inside being bored jerking off. Me personally I decided I wanted to be a drug addict and I pursue that goal viciously. I also have friends that enjoy the same activity. We all fall somewhere along the anti social personality disorder scale tho
>>721553273 the pay depends where you live. not having to talk to anyone, be sassed by a boss or coworkers, shave, wear what you want, listen to whatever podcast you want, smoke, fart, etc. being free is what makes it worthwhile.
>>721552919 Pretty much this. Dealing with people makes me want to tear my hair out. Nobody ever sees the bigger picture. Even when you blatantly explain to them in complete detail about something, and they look at you like YOU'RE the one that's "odd" in the room. It's gotten to the point where I've become so introverted I don't leave the house unless I absolutely have to, because I have such difficulty even talking to people anymore.
>>721553439 >what obstacles do you think the AI jews will encounter with insurance companies? I would imagine we'll have a single-payer system by then, but if not, I don't think AI would be much more destructive than the greedy, unscrupulous humans who run most insurance companies.
But I have no idea how AI would be integrated into these things, so I don't really have an opinion.
>>721553804 I hate going out for supplies because of the small talk cashiers make with me. I hear myself recite my canned responses and I feel awkward. I know they sound rehearsed. Yes, I found everything ok! It's just so uncomfortable. Don't ask about my plans for this weekend. Yes, the yogurt is delicious, that's why I'm buying 12 of them. I don't know how to relate to these people. I just want to scream at them to stop finger fucking my treats. I know they're baggers and I shouldn't have expectations but goddammit....don't ask me how many bags I need or if you should double bag my groceries, it's your fucking job.
>>721547301 Selling shit online at 13 makes you a genius now? Wow. Tell that to all the people I knew reverse engineering software and developing exploits who were younger than that. They must be fucking so smart. amirite? I ran a fucking imageboard that averaged 30,000 unique visitors daily, leveraged my position as an owner of a Runescape priv8 server for actual accounts which I sold, managed a trolling group and invented SE methods that only just recently resurfaced. I'm pretty fucking retarded too... just because you were out riding bicycles as a kid doesn't mean everybody else was.
Detected high IQ when i was 22, i'm 26 now. Spent my whole life thinking i was a failure since i was different to other people. Ive been depressed all my life untill today where i'm trying to pull myself together. I'm not depressed anymore, just in a neutral mood, trying not to regret all the time i lost being depressed and move forward. Ive always wanted to do something good for this world, not become famous or anything but make it better, do something that has a meaning and that would change peoples'life using my amazing creativity. Probably just gonna end up doing a job only to survive.
>>721554182 Hah! No I'm werido i never listen to music. Even when driving a car or riding my motorcycle. The trucks are pretty quite inside the cabins. Depending how new the truck is. They do a lot for driver confort. The seats are more like lazy boys with seat belts. And you sit more upright.
It can get boring. Not gonna bullshit you and say its fun all the time. But its good enough money and the job is easy for anyone who has tons of common sense.. Ive fixed my own trucks when they've broken down.. But I'm just that kind of person.
And don't get sucked into the "life style" its how you will never move up in pay or your company.. That means no hanging out at truck stops or weigh stations.
>>721554720 Yeah. I don't go outside often these days unless it's warmish and I want to hike. I might get another bike eventually just because I miss riding around. Needa start eating more before I get all active 'n shit. Down to 108lbs rn, which is awful, but hey, eating can be difficult, yo.
>tfw my lineage is filled with doctors, engineers, phsysists, test pilots >tfw lineage is also filled with addictions to alcohol, drugs, and extreme risk taking behaviors
Feels bad man. I'm smart enough to know that I know almost nothing about the world, but not dumb enough to not know I'm dumb. I know I'm not special or unique. I just want to make other people happy in whatever way I can.
>>721555580 I don't have many friends. I'm difficult to get along with and most people either dislike me or I don't like them. Everybody has the potential to be useful under the right circumstances though.
>>721555613 Being at work is like for most people being at home for me. I have like 100 projects at home I'm working on all a little at a time. In a mess. But at work I get to chill out and think about my projects and maybe come up with a better idea.. Its a very intresting process of mine.
>>721555645 >Because it's harder for us to ignore the fact that we have no purpose in life. RETARD ALERT. If you don't realize your purpose in life, you're just as stupid as all the other monkeys that wear pants, shithead. Go find yourself and get a clue, you unenlightened crybaby.
>>721550622 I've done this with every relationship I've had. I just shut down and block the world for days, upwards of 2 weeks at a time. Just lost my girlfriend this morning because I did exactly this for the last 5 days
>>721548175 It's probably related to mental disorders like autism and other retardations, since I do not believe depression or anxiety is a sign of stupidity. Though I cannot say that I know for a fact, I'm just a random person on the internet.
>>721546320 >they're more able to be aware of how shitty everything is >they know why everything is the way it is, so there's no magic left in the world for them >They're aware of every lie they're told, and know how terrible every single human being is >they're smart enough to see the awful hiding behind anything that seems good
Alternatively: >the matter making up their brains is primarily dedicated to computational/logical power, so there's less of the emotional shit, making them homo autistici
>>721554229 Right? I get they're doing their job, but learn to read body language. I make it pretty clear I don't want to talk to them. It's not even an awkward thing for me. I just literally do not want to interact with human beings.
You faggots think you're intellectually superior to me? I'll have you know that by the age of 11 I read all of Marcel's work, War & Peace, Quixote, every book by Dickens, the complete works of Plato, Nietzsche's Thus Spoke Zarathustra, Les Misérables and I even managed to memorize the first 10 chapters of Joyce's Ulysses using the method of loci. Not only was I incredibly well-versed in literature, but I also taught myself assembly and Lisp. Shortly after I managed to write my own C compiler which was later shipped with the greatest operating system of all time, TempleOS. Now I hold a Master of Science degree from M.I.T. and am currently doing research for my PhD. Suck on that you inferior snot gobbling troglodytes.
>>721555822 Its good to know there are others out there like me. The emotional burden of appearing insane within lower iq cultures is quite taxing when i live amongst them.
Ive been debating between continuing as you are or getting my shit together and joining the elite. Ill need to transform my conscience in order to do so, but the more i meditate on my psyche, the more im coming to believe that most of my current conscience is preprogrammed, moderately baseless garbage that was planted in me as a child because i was too stupid to know any better at the time.
>>721546320 It's a combination of things; when you've got more going on in your head there's a higher chance of things getting hinky, and "ignorance is bliss" is really true. When you don't know what the fuck's going on, things don't seem so bad.
>>721547462 Doctors arent smart. They just have a better focus then most. I know doctors and they are fucking morons. They are great doctors but lack real common sense. I now know anyone can become a doctor if they focus enough. Would never think of a doctor as a genius or even smart. Same goes with Lawyers.
Not really. It just seems that way because we're more interconnected than ever before. The internet lets you hear about bad news fast. If even so much as one kid gets hit by a car in a small town somewhere, the whole planet knows about it within a day.
A little over a hundred years ago entire towns could be slaughtered in a single night and nobody would know. Combine this with the fact that bad news spreads like wildfire and good news is met with a resounding 'meh' and you've got an explanation for why it feels like the world is collapsing.
>>721546320 Clearly because there are too many people who try really hard to be their idea of smart and are stupid for it. They clash against what an intelligent person would consider to be the most sound logic available.
To be really honest you can be depressed for a number of reasons, so I wouldn't correlate intelligence with depression, but rather feelings of isolation and general misunderstanding/miscommunication. Probably. Maybe all they have to do is not be so serious, but what do I know?
>>721560153 i don't think about "the average /b/tard". i don't want to. we're all anons here. i don't want to know who/what you really are. you're just words on my screen and all the words look the same. i don't need to trust you.
>>721554752 its not, intelligence his used to gain knowledge. >not the same thing. People who are fucking wrong and think they are right, gives selfs doubt. Knowing almost every thing and hearing stupid people talk wrongfully about the things you know creates a world that you have your knowledge constantly challenged wrongfully.
It is tiring and results in a person that needs to close their mind against other people and their information as they are always wrong and cast doubt.
I'm so smart that I have been diagnosed schizophrenic. But wait, you'll see. I have a plan that will change this world. I keep it secret because I don't want to be murdered. Once I'm 100% positive that it works, It will be spread online for all to have.
>>721546468 If people were smart they'd spend their time learning how to make more money and become richer than president drumpf. >muh money isnt happyness that's what poor people convince theirselves to sleep at night
>>721561327 mass produced shit aims towards the center not the top.. nothing is funny, nothing is interesting, no product is ever worthwhile , education is a robot factory and the "ideal life" seems like a claustrophobic dream.
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